Plus i love the mods you come up with PC, superior sound (i.e. x-fi) superior graphics (play it at 1900x1200 resolution and you know what im talking about with everything max...altho more expensive) superior controls (i.e. i dont think xbox players can even chat XD)

until xbox gives us proper mouse and keyboard support ill stick with my pc thanks

Leepox

Q80

Sigma-D

Kickstone

Myrpok

GameraTheGreat

Scrotoman

CFStang

Also, :( I wish today were Ban Monday... Only Witzbold can save us now.

Also, everyone keeps putting Gears 2 up against Resistance 2 but personally, I think Resistance is a bit weak. Gears 2's real competition for the fall is Killzone 2. Hm, the year of 2's it seems... Just gotta squeeze Mass Effect 2 and Assassin's Creed 2 into this year and we'll be set.

Samos42

Samos42

@splines:
Epic's not that big of a company, and we DO know that Cliffy doesn't work on UT games anymore because of his involvement with Gears. It's not much of a stretch to think that some other UT team members jumped ship to the Gears wagon with him when he left the series. The game IS missing something, if you've played it like I have. UT3 doesn't suck certainly, but it's a little lacking compared to the pure liquid awesome of UT and UT2004. It's not hard to think that Gears could've had a hand in that since back in those days, Epic was only making one title at a time instead of dividing themselves up into pieces to make multiple games.

Archaotic

Like the nonsense and idiocy you just spewed out of your fanboy face? Yeah, it is kind of annoying.

Mpalm.

alby13

I love a good argument, as long as it stays in the realm of making points and doesn't degenerate to name calling I can happily argue all day and never change my core position, but thats the only way to learn and expand your viewpoints, constantly challenging them. Nobody should live in a world of yes men, it hurts them as much as others.

DaiMacculate

PsycheDiver

Kaneda

NOTE: I believe Gears of War 2 will be delayed.

goldwings

-Sigil-

Rockwallaby

Rockwallaby

Shaverdian

You've got to be fucking kidding, dude. They have more than one development team, you know.

splines

cherrybomb

rexor0717

chimp_o_death

Just launched?

King_Krunk

KM91

photoboy

And for those questioning the "short" length of time between titles, I distinctly remember an interview with Cliffy B where he stated that now that the heavy lifting of creating the game world/engine was done, they'd be able to have sequels ready rather quickly.

chimp_o_death

In the interim, Vegas 2 is looking sweet, with cover, and judging from the comments cover must automatically make it a replacement for Gears or Uncharted, so I'll be getting that instead.

crapsh00t

-Sigil-

NPlace

The problem is I see quality in the titles I see not just based on my opinion but by there achievements where you do not.

-Sigil-

In the end we're arguing opinions, but I'm not trying to pass mine as fact whereas I see you trying to put down Uncharted a bit too much. Both are fine games end of story.

zoesch

Can't wait, man I'm hyped

meet me at the World Championship in this game at Dreamhack (just need to visit some fellas here in Sweden first to convince them...) Summer 09, shotgun and sniper, brains and guts all over the place, paradise.

IMHO No MP has been close to the grandeur of Gears (minus glitches) and I've played em' all (The most loved ones at least).

TakeoNinja

-Sigil-

Yanno what I've had a real craving for lately? A current-gen remake of BattleTanx or something similar. The 4-player splitscreen multiplayer for that was so much fun. Haven't seen any good tank games (or mech games, for that matter) for a while.

Toasticus

tljent

Holy crap... I'm going to have to pick that up and put it back in my head... problem is- the thing that would tell me how to do that is laying on the floor...

Curse you Epic...

GameChad

Amazing-Steve

Amazing-Steve

I'm not on a high horse I just don't like Uncharted and give real reasons why. If I was on a high horse I'd just call it crap and not bother responding or saying why.

-Sigil-

So get off your high horse... gears is a good game, so is uncharted.

zoesch

-Sigil-

Idiocy goes both ways.

zoesch

-Sigil-

Streeks1984

Face it, there's never been a good Games for Windows Live release. Pretty much every game on there has been designed with a 360 in mind and it shows.

Burguois

so i'm gonna get Resistance 2 instead.

Akmed

Korlis

-Sigil-

the oringal gears of war was one of the few reasons i'd get a 360, it came on on pc, no reason for a 360, mass effect was the same but with a pc port on the way, why bother getting hyped or jealous about a 360 "exclusive"

cleverlymadeup

DugDawg

Burguois

Opinions don't operate in some realm entirely disconnected from reasoning, and through the action of defending your opinions with reasoning you may often find that you come away with a better understanding of what you believe.

Toasticus

Gears just doesn't have anything to endear me to it like Uncharted did, and that's where it failed. And now, I'm off to work for the afternoon. Later, all, it's been...horrifying.

Archaotic

Tell me Ch4ng3...That's a great name, by the way. Can I call you Chump Ch4ng3? Tell me Chump Ch4ng3, are you the type of numb-nuts that thinks that magazines get paid for their reveiws? Do us all a favor and stop breathing.

Redface, The Dark Messiah of Justice

that's what they said for halo, for gear of war, for jade empire, for kotor, for mass effect...obviously exclusive mean it's for PC and 360.

idrisz

I hope CliffyB puts in a Marcus Fenix-Locust orgy scene halfway through the game. Much hilarity will ensue. Or not.

jerimas

Viet0ne

Voteforme2020

Soriya

Your personal review scale doesn't have to say it's great, if you listened to what I said earlier (which I doubt you did) I'm trying to make you accept they are so similar gameplay wise (which you admit) graphically and more yet you call Gears meritless cos your crap at it. Well sure every MMO sucks now cos I can't be bothered to play online.

-Sigil-

Soriya

Spoony

"@Haters: Gears of War was a lot better than Resistance Fall of Man. When I played Resistance, it felt like I was playing every other FPS in existence."

Yes cause gears was this revolutionary experience worthy of praise.... seriously they were both pretty boring games, both solid but overall nothing worth the praise they got.

Spoony

SavageSalad

JudgementOfCrom

GameraTheGreat

And you seem to be missing the point when I say different people have different views on quality. Just because YOUR personal review scale says Gears is great doesn't mean MINE will. Online multiplayer may add points for you whereas it won't do much of anything for me because by and large I WON'T PLAY IT. It has no use to me unless I enjoyed the main game, and in Gears' case I didn't.

@Killtacular:
I guess I'm just lucky I never bought the game. I played it for a good long while at my neighbor's house on his 360, both online multiplayer and co-op campaign, and was just totally turned off to the entire experience.

Archaotic

Without getting into this specific case about Gears, I would disagree that you can't contribute something worthwhile to a comment thread on a product you don't think will be good. I would say though that its needs to be constructive in some fashion, and ideally you want the game to be good, you just doubt it will be. Like if you went into a thread on a Koei game and said (as I have once or twice) that the new game in one of their "Warriors" series wasn't very good, and explained why other games in the series were better, that certainly isn't trolling IMO.

I too didn't care for Gears, but because I know that many thousands of others loved it, often for the same aspects that I didn't like, I won't come into a thread about it unless I have a comment that relates to a more general point (like the overall direction of the MS/Epic relationship, for example), not just "Yeah I didn't like Gears so I don't care".

DaiMacculate

But it is your decision.

Killtacular

for 700 dollar you can easily build a pc that can run gow or cod especially if you buy the parts and put it together yourself.

people think PC are super expensive are just ignorant. especially since you can replace a monitor with a hdtv, if you don't have a hdTV why are you even arguing whether to buy 360 or a pc, the obvious choice would be get a wii.

idrisz

NinjaBurg3r

-Sigil-

I'll see how this one pans out, the first GoW was a fun co-op experience (Never played the single or multi-player campaigns).

And for the people comparing Uncharted with GoW... are you smoking something weird from the Fanboy Crack Stash? Because they are good games on their own, hardly similar beyond being in third person and featuring a cover system.

zoesch

boots555

boots555

"I even prefer Prey to it anyday."

You could at least say Doom 3 :p

Also, prey went to the three-sixtah too, and had a severe lack of totally bad ass chainsaws :D

Eh, another GoW, was alright, like the chainsaw-rifle of course, I mean, who DIDN'T like that? Wonder if they'll stick a chainsaw on anything else, you can never have too many chainsaws!

Bando

boots555

LeLoi

It may not be a selling point to you but it's added value and there incase you want it, you don't get two review scores, one for the guy with online and one for the guy without it. You base a judgement on the games entirity and even if you can't use live or whatever it doesn't mean you can ignore that part of a game when comparing it to others.

The difficulties was more to suggest longevity in the games (replayability). Multiplayer is equally fulfilling just in a different way, it's more competitve. Gears is extremely hard to win a multiplayer match when your outnumbered so when you take out 4 people on your own that can feel greatly rewarding. Multiplayer is more pick up and go though.

Well that's because your being arrogant. I may dislike a movie and then once someone tells me what I missed in it I could go back and see it for the fullness that it is. Just like you may brush off a game but go back and enjoy it more. You won't change your mind because you are resilient to the idea that your opinion was wrong. I've explained how many of the things you brushed off were actually superior in Gears but you probably won't even admit you were wrong to say it was meritless.

-Sigil-

Swift_

Cell9song

Honestly, CoD4 gets off easy (even from 360 owners) compared to the others.

And its not MY console, lol. I do own one, though.

DARTH_TIGRIS

"2. PC is alot cheaper than you think, especially if you buy your own parts. you can spend 600-700 and easily run gear 2 when it comes out especially if it's using the same engine as gear 1. (if you have a HDTV, it double as a giant monitor, yeah for 50" 1080p monitor). not mentioning almost every port is cheaper on pc than on console."

600-700 eh? You're hilarious, you really made your point.

Markez

@FrigidAir44: I loved it, and still enjoy going back and playing it every once in a while. Blew me away the first time I played it. The dark, freaky atmosphere was probably my favorite aspect of it. Post-apocalyptic war-torn environments had been done before, but never so beautifully or convincingly.

Toasticus

Kyle81

idrisz

Madeira

L_K_M

People complain endlessly about GeoW and Halo 3 having short campaigns, but CoD4 doesn't get ragged on hardly at all for an even SHORTER one.

Hmmm ... what's the difference between those and CoD4 ..... hmmmmmm .... could it be ...

MULTIPLATFORM!!!!!!

DARTH_TIGRIS

And for some people, me included, online multiplayer isn't a selling point. At all. Not to mention Uncharted has just as many difficulties as Gears, and hidden stuff and modes to unlock. The single player to me in Uncharted was much more fulfilling due to the story and the characters than any game with multiplayer could do.

So we can go back and forth as long as you want to, but the point that matters here is that people's tastes are different and there's no way in hell you're going to change mine, nor am I probably going to change yours.

Archaotic

Alazar

DigitalHero

Madeira

alwaysinit

@Haters: Gears of War was a lot better than Resistance Fall of Man. When I played Resistance, it felt like I was playing every other FPS in existence.

Verum

I'm excited... and I don't mind a 6-8 hour campaign as long as its to the point and doesn't drag.

FrigidAir44

GameraTheGreat

-Sigil-

I picked it up and sat down and i beat it the same day. While i enjoyed the cover system the visuals were ok, the characters were boring, the storyline was worse then a B rated movie, and the guns were simply boring with the exception of the chain gun which due to the style of fighting was all i ever used.

I give it it's credit as it was a fun game that gave cover an actual use. But a sequel? why not make a new ip utilizing a much improved cover system as there really is no reason to improve upon that crappy story and characters.

Spoony

Not to sound like a fanboy, but one game releasing in November isn't going to derail an entire year's worth of momentum. For any console. That'd be the same thing as if FFXIII were to have launched right after Bioshock and Mass Effect did last year. It'd be impressive, but it wouldn't have made an impact.

Archaotic

-Sigil-

DARTH_TIGRIS

ShinobiFist(PSN-XBL)

Oh well, I can't really complain since all of you pretty much also think PlayStation 3 has sold like 5 consoles worldwide and you won't find a soul but your own online.

Jomi294

That's a hell of a wrench that MS just threw in the "Year of the PS3".

Rask

I do hope that HUGE improvements will be made so that I might actually rent it. Today we are used to really high standards and EPIC better deliver.

peppeaccardo

@-Sigil-:
I think you need to play Uncharted if you think that everything it does, Gears does better. Honestly.

Archaotic

-Sigil-

kuzuboshii

Maybe I'm just jaded...

Spoony Bard

idrisz

DreamTwister

It's silly to adhere to some self-imposed stigma about playing games on easy, and seems to lead to some of the negative thoughts you had towards the game.

Killtacular

DARTH_TIGRIS

weasl

Soralinkyuna

@Gray665:
I hear ya there. Low health to me is a massive turn-off in most games because it makes me furious to die so quickly. It's why I hate the Tom Clancy games. Nothing makes me angrier than being killed in one shot from a sniper across the map whose existence I didn't even know of. Gears was similar, only in this case it's dudes with machine guns with twice as much health as you so you can't ever outlast them in a one-on-one fight. And I never play games on Easy mode.

Uncharted somehow hit a sweet spot for me where dying was frequent, but respawning was so quick and painless you hardly ever lost any progress because of it. The lack of load times and the super-frequent checkpoints really helped make the game a lot less painful than it could've been, you know?

...and also, if you think Gears is varied in UE3, check out Lost Odyssey. It'll blow your mind.

Archaotic

Mikey G

josh924

why? I can make a list:

1. It's not an FPS.
2. To build a PC to make it look as good as the 360 version, you'll be spending 2-3x the cost of an Elite 360.
3. When Gears 2 comes out, you'll need to upgrade again to get the same quality.
4. The random hassles of PC gaming far outweigh the few good points.

Unless a game is a PC exclusive, there's really no point to play it on PC if you already have the console. This is coming from a PC gamer.

Lot Krotan

You're sorry? For who? For what? It will be 2 years. 2 years. That's PLENTY of time in between sequels.

@mentalboy11:

Troll much?

dead_red_eyes

Also you act like 2 years is too small a time but when people tell you that's normal for a sequel you don't seem to take that to heart cos you want to pretend it's bad. 2 years is NORMAL for a sequel. Look at the annual releases of games like Fifa 08, they improve graphically, content wise and add features so with an extra year stuff won't be so bad.

-Sigil-

I hope it has a script this time, cos the core of the game is fun fun.

GhaleonUnlimited

I've been playing shooters since Wolfenstein. I've played damn near all the 'GOOD' shooters. Gears is a good shooter IMHO, and I think a lot of people agree with me. Best game ever, of course not, but its pretty damn fun and looks mighty good too.

Gray665

feegore

I didn't say you had to love the game, or even like it, but you are a troll if your only purpose in coming into this post was to say "man, how disappointing since there's nothing good about gears." If I went into the FFXIII post and said "thank god it's delayed, that gives us one more year without uninspired gameplay and teen angst predictable character." I would be accused of trolling.

Face it, going into a post about a game to say it sucks is trolling, even if it is your opinion.

Lot Krotan

PapaBear434

Anyways, not surprised at all that there's a Gears 2, wasn't that a given?

darthmole12

idrisz

I'd be willing to bet they've been working on it since the first became such a hit. They've just been keeping it quiet and just now confirming it.

Besides, it's a huge name release. Don't expect it to reach release date on time. :)

PapaBear434

So low health only makes sense if your not wearing a armour? What about the fact they're being shot at by big guns, does that not validate low health? It did have too much grey scenery but that doesn't ruin a game on it's own, it still had amazing level design with all the protruding and decorative stone statues and non-symmetrical design.

He wasn't a space marine XP

-Sigil-

Some times with some games we simply want more. More story, more enemies, more weapons, more game length. If you want every new installment of a franchise to be an evolutionary leap, wait for FFXIII.

I am sure that the new Resistance Fall of Man will be more of the same, only bigger, with more new weapons and enemies.

Hengst2404

I kid, of course! Everyone's entitled to an opinion (or two as the case may be). Did you take offense to my posting because you disagree or did it just flat out annoy you? Care to elaborate?

Oh, and I'll be sure ask you next time I decided to share more than one idea on a single post, though. Again, VERY sorry about that.

7ucky

rodsky

First one was so boring I didn' bother finishing it. Looked phenominal though.

Tuxy79

Gears isn't first person. As for the speed in which you go down, well I guess that depends on the difficulty level you play on. I actually like when it only takes a few shots to take the player down. Power armor or not, getting shot a few times will take just about anyone down. And that's not even taking into consideration the futuristic weapons. As for the gray level design, I actually thought it was pretty varied as far as Unreal Engine 3 games are concerned, especially considering it was the first one. Eh, to each his own.

Gray665

Archaotic

Also: Multiplayer. Fix it. Nao.

ShaggE

Archaotic

mentalboy11

vega480

DigitalHero

Gears is simply mediocre for some who are used to GOOD shooters, deal with it. I even prefer Prey to it anyday.

Candlejack

If you don't like the game at all, why do you keep coming in a post about the game? Oh yea, you're a troll.

Lot Krotan

Kyle81

I liked it better when you said "No comment" earlier. You made your point then.

@Archaotic:

Have fun building a stable rig that will play this game, and then play Mass Effect 2 when it releases, and then play ID's next game when it releases... Seriously, there's a reason that some of the biggest competitors in PC manufactoring are teaming up... and that's because PC gaming is a clusterfuck compared to console gaming.

Lot Krotan

Mr.Waffleton

The only mechanic it borrowed from Gears was the cover system, and at least Drake's low health made sense. Drake's a snarky dude in a t-shirt, he's not going to be able to sponge off bullets. Fenix is a wall of meat in power armor, and he goes down FASTER than Drake. It was frustrating, and the unlikeable cast and boring gray level designs dropped it down even further in my book.

And for the record, you're right. I don't like shooters. I much prefer plotty RPGs and action games like Devil May Cry over anything with a first person perspective and a space marine protagonist.

Archaotic

-Sigil-

noliferuin (PSN+XBL)

This is entirely revealing & new information!

7ucky

DaPress

QC8472

Archaotic

ThisCharmingMan

No redeeming qualities?! None?! You must not like shooters then. But I bet you looooooved Uncharted, which borrowed heavily from Gears and its no redeeming qualities.

Gray665

Mally

@lifeinthefridge:

And all insecure MS fanboys who think Kotaku has been conspiring against their readers by posting Sony stories and then dropping this story as some major bomb of information just to upset Sony fanboys, and enjoy hearing how people who can't afford both a 360 & PS3 won't get to enjoy a great game due to stupid exclusivity......please go away.

Zhabin

-Sigil-

If you wanna put up with the headaches/cost of playing brand new games on PC, then you're right, there's no use in owning a 360 or a PS3. However, as a PC gamer, I know that everything works fine until you try to install the newest game. Then you spend hours troubleshooting each problem...

Lot Krotan

Joeshie

Considering all of the other Xbox 360 "e