Having looked into the game extensively, and after seeing all the recently released video, I have a hard time seeing eye to eye with some of the points in these impressions.

Especially, oddly overly nit-picking thigs such as the zoom in on Heimdal's glasses. Its actually a really cool part. It speaks to part of his character, since he is the see-er, his glasses constantly stream runes similar to a screeni n the matrix.

I haven't witnessed any moments of gameplay slowdown, and any frame issues in cinematics seemed minor at most. Most of them looked incredible too.

As a final note, IGN mentioned that the controls were actually tighter than when they previously played, while most other sites enjoyed the game.

Not saying mike is wrong, but its clear he either needs more time with the game to form an educated opinion, or its clearly not his type of game, and perhaps unable to form an objective opinion about it.

Definately looks nothing like a mess.

theALLseeingEYE

PsycheDiver

Norellicus

Demaar

Regardless, I'm very excited for Too Human!

RedFive

Is it just me or does that sound like half the JRPGs out there? Taking some disparate elements and just mashing them together isn't exactly creative.

Pantsman

MrSatan

banmojo

Gwydeon

Anyways, still looking forward to this one.

Deviation59

Zeouterlimits

He seems to be criticizing the game for trying to do too many things at once, which to me is one of the most exciting elements of what SK is attempting.

I don't expect the game's Devil May Cry gameplay to be as good as it is in DMC. That's about all DMC games are trying to do, so it really needs to be spectacular. This is an action-rpg that borrows elements from other genres, and honestly if I get an arpg with a little of that flavor of combat, that's all I really need. Frankly that's all I want.

Maybe I'm just to easy to please, but story-focused games that attempt to cross-pollinate gameplay conventions from typically disparate genres interest me way more than 90% of the FPS games on the market that are more-of-the-same with a fresh coat of paint.

I think we should expect more unique experiences within a single game world than we do from most genres. Personally I think games like what Too Human is attempting to be are expanding the appeal and legitimacy of the medium to a new adult audience in the same way that the Wii appeals to a more casual, youth audience. Great story and presentation with cool looking but simple gameplay (let's just hope it's fun). Hell- my wife is interested in this game, and she plays absolutely nothing but Mario 3 & DOA, and even that's rare. What's that tell you?

If you're expecting it to be just like DMC, or any other game it partially emulates, I think you're sort of missing the point. Same thing about the camera system. If you're one of those people who constantly need to be moving the camera (admittedly like me), this camera system is gonna take adjusting to.

Whether different is good, bad, or neither still remains to be seen I guess, but I for one am still very hopeful. I wish more developers would take such risks...

stranger

I just watched a round table about the game and quite a few gameplay vids. The camera looks fine, better then DMC4 anyways, and the gameplay looks and sounds very good...and the story could be the right mix of odd that it just works really well. Silicon Knights has always been about great story and I see no reason why this game wouldnt be the same way.

I cant wait! I wasnt hyped about this game until today, between your minor issues that really are nit picking, and all the videos ive seen...gonna be a great game.

parad0x360

darthmole12

ThisCharmingMan

darvos

QmotherFnT.

Slothboy

threeve

I was thinking the same exact thing.

dead_red_eyes

Cenobite

ThoseRaptureBlues

liquid_kore

RFX

shwoosh

As long as this game can still support the 4-player co-op, this could be one epic game.

Looks like polish and some quick fixes are still needed to be taken care of, but this is probably the game I've been waiting most on.

exkon

Renter.

wallapuctus

R3load

Pombar

Koztah

Gadgetron

Xerxes3rd

It looks incredibly PSO-esque in the gameplay department and that is enough to sell the game to me.

Doomstink

ManjiKengo

K&L sucked, AoT looks like they might screw the pooch, this is my only hope!

TiberianViper

There's way too much cheese in EVERY MGS game.

On topic, they better iron out the technical issues cause that shit will drive me crazy. It already seems like I'm not going to like the combat very much so it basically comes down to the story and RPG/Loot elements for me. If it runs well and there's tons of loot to find a la Diablo I'll pick it up but if its marred with technical problems no amount of loot is gonna convince me to get it. I'm hoping the demo makes things more clear.

Gray665

Gamers are just spoiled and unwilling to take a chance on a new game. The media is corrupt and too opinionated to give games a fair chance. I mean No More Heroes was the most fun I had with a game in a very long time and the reviews only focused on how dated the graphics looked. The best is when a few reviews gave negative feedback for how the HUD was so old that it looked like it was taken straight out of GTAIII. The irony is that it was taken from GTAIII and that was the entire point.

I an excited about Too Human and even some negative feedback on technical features will not detour me from giving it a try. If the game plays like Two Worlds, then yes, it will be a sad day but if they can deliver a game that plays like the hybrid, bastard son of Devil May Cry, Diablo, and Geometry Wars with a little God of War thrown in for fun, then count me in!

Hiero Glyph

Black Arts Viper

Just like every JRPG? Japan does it=cool. Canadian Developers do it=lame. Double standard.

WatershipDown

It's still on my must-buy list.

KilgoreTrout__XL

I gotta say that these impressions have piqued my interest. I'll definitely be keeping an eye on this one.

And you guys above were right on the money regarding Lost Odyssey. LO for me, has been one of the best games I've played in a long while. It is a JRPG, including all that genre's cliches and pitfalls, but you know what? Its good to play a game that is just honest with itself. ESPECIALLY in this day of reinventing the wheel every chance you get.

chantron

Kyle81

Ethereal006

"Rapid Fire Battle Rifle of Piercing Explosions"

Oh look! An upgrade!

"Rapid Fire Ultra Battle Rifle of Piercing Explosions"

I hope to be proven wrong. But when you start touting the word "millions" when it comes to available gear, well...there aren't too many ways of achieving that without random generation.

Captain Impulse

Jun581 won't give you tree fiddy!!

I'm hoping it captures some of the magic of running around in PSO looking for cool loot.

The story looks to be great and the game looks spectacular- so as long as it's fun tearing through waves of baddies and there's lots of new rare loot to get, Too Human should be awesome!

Madeira

28121986

HoboGamer

28121986

> Big Silicon Knights fan here! Played every game they've ever made, and been looking forward to this game for... what... going on 10 years now, I suppose.

On X-Play last night, Dyack said there are "millions" of weapons in the game.

baked ham

@GUNJAM: Nah, this was Sakaguchi's pet project; you just can't say you don't care about the man's vision, since it IS Lost Odyssey. I'm wondering if they're making it into a franchise, but with continuity?

But I agree on the Uematsu part. LO's music is good, but not distinctively good. He could have toned down on the techno/rock tracks (especially the World Map music, which is soothing with the flute, and the harp, and then ELECTRIC GUITAR WTF!?).

I have the LO OST too. It's enjoyable, but it's more like some medley of Uematsu's greatest hits or something, rather than a cohesive soundtrack to the game.

Byakko

@Fyren: Yeah, I'm losing interest in Uemetsu's work. He's good, but things are really starting to feel recycled now...even pre-LO.

I think I'll take your advice and pick it up when I get back form my trip. Don't wanna blow all my spending money beforehand!

Captain Impulse

Consider it if you enjoyed games when Squarenix was Squaresoft. That should sum it up. I don't know, maybe its because I am an early 80's baby and the pique of squaresoft games hit me right at the age of 9 or so and I will always have a vision of the gaming days back then.

It has the old-school feel with a bit of the twist. But the storyline is just rock solid with little to no holes, a cheesy moment here and there, and the dream sequence is just most excellent.

The only thing that fails in this game?, Uemetsu. He can't seem to let go of the FF series as the sounds and music has distinct similarity.

Fyren

I'm pretty sure Balder's Gate does.

GUNJAM

Captain Impulse

The funny thing is it's because the decision to use the in-game engine to render cutscenes mostly, which yes, should be a good thing, but I've heard that since you can switch the audio languages on the fly, it might hamper the whole loading time when rendering the scene as all audio streams are synchronized 0___o

Ironically, LO cuts back on the streaming FMVs to scene, and you actually want more of those! Because they load faster, look fantastic, and usually involve something awesome that the in-game models can't do!

Also, depending on the region of your 360, I suggest if impossible to get the Asian-English edition of LO (which is produced by Singapore, which is here ^_^). Fully translated English menus etc, the bug fixes in the North American release included, AND original Japanese packaging with the lovely boxart and mega-four-disc arrangement.

Byakko

Yeah, I've read a few reviews, and without even having played the game, several of the reasons the game was knocked, I found myself saying - "What the hell? Why does that matter?"

Aesthetics have nothing to do with how good a game plays. And I've seen LO in a demo unit, I've seen it's load times. Blown WAY out of proportion. Some people can't fucking count.

Captain Impulse

That, I appreciate. I don't think I've died in a FF game since...I can't even remember. Not even against Emerald, Ultima, Omega or any of the other Weapons.

(And, in a vain attempt to legitimize posting in this thread) Too Human was a game that, after seeing the initial trailer, I had ruled as being uninteresting to me. If they can pull off the Devil May Cry/Diablo hybrid, with some serious open-ended exploration/dungeon-crawling, then this game has my solid attention. If it's just going to be a hack-and-slash on rails with an inventory system, I'll pass.

Still too far out to tell for sure at this point, though.

Captain Impulse

On the other hand though, if the game is dripping with cliche and melodrama, it's definately got a good part of what both action gamers and RPG fans are used to. :P

GorbyGipper

Madeira

I've had comments from my buddies, who have never played a JRPG since maybe the Playstation 1, and basically became Xbox junkies, picking this game up and really loving it, battle system and all.

It's not too far a stretch that the decision to be old-school might actually be a good reason considering LO is on the 360; home of the gun-trigger-happy crowds. Simple is best for introducing a lesser known genre, no?

Though LO's battles are not easy. You will die, no matter how experienced you are in JRPGs, you will die, and it's even likely it'll be just a random encounter.

Byakko

Sintariot

Maybe when I get back from Japan...

Captain Impulse

From the beginning I wanted to love Too Human. I liked the idea, even though it was a forced 'epic' idea, trying to make themselves the match-up with God of War (naturally choosing the other ancient mythology, hm). Well, if they put their heart into it, maybe it'll be just as great? That was my initial thoughts.

One thing I could never understand was how bad press that I honestly didn't think was that bad (except for the case with Epic, which is plain stupid on Silicon Knight's part IMO) could really affect this game to this point.

Hopefully, it'll bee decent, even it's no longer a must-buy for me, unfortunately. At best, a wait-and-see-and-be-pleasantly-surprised.

...

*rummages to get back to playing LO*

Byakko

Witzbold

Captain Impulse

steliosco

Baldur's Gate kicked off with with 'He who fights with monsters should be careful that he does not become one. And he who looks long into the abyss should know the abyss looks into him.'

Korlis

I had to comment for a fellow kotukite who actually said "...more dramatic and more involving then all post-Snes squaresoft products", because thats exactly the thought that crossed my mind when playing LO.

Fyren

I definitely respect mcwhertor's response- it's better to infuriate Dyack with negative press during the final testing stages of the game rather than wait until release and then say, "remember when I gave you good press? That's because you paid me to." Mcwhertor points out all of the salient points of the game that can still be fixed, to avoid a slipshod release that could really effect ratings, and therefore sales.

Having said that, I will buy this game. I trust dennis dyack, and I can tell that by the tone of the article, I really have nothing to worry about.

Thanks for the very well done impressions, Mcwhertor.

masterisosceles

Nexus6

Reminds me of that scene from the Transporter (that they ended up cutting, I believe) where Jason Statham deflects a missile coming straight at him with a metal tray. Ri-damn-diculous.

Captain Impulse

JakeDunn

Naurgul

"Others, however, may find that other games have done what Too Human is attempting to do before (and better) and may just want to wait for the novelization." You got that from a 30 minutes play through? Really? No, I mean REALLY?

godhandiscen

. . .

i'm only being about 52% sarcastic.

108

gogoranger

LeLoi

edhe (xbl)

The_Rabbit

superbeast1370

/off topic
playing a demo will make or break this for me, but im still going to definatly wait for more preview (although kotaku ones do seem to hit the nail on the head most of the time ;])

Naif

Irenicus-the one and only

cheeses

darkroomdemons.com

Also, I'm sick of promises of "We were too lazy to program a proper Camera system, but you don't need it, because the camera is smart enough to know where to look!" When, surprise surprise, it ends up being a pretty crappy camera. Only game to pull of camera angles with grace was God of War(I've only played 2, can't judge 1) and there were a couple odd glitchy spots towards the end of the game, where the angles didn't quit work out. But otherwise, the controls moved in sync with the camera perfectly.

So I'll check Too Human out. I think the reviews are going to be critical. If it gets even a couple raving reviews, at all, then I think a ton more people will buy it. If everyone agrees it's mediocre, then I think a lot of people on the fence are going to figure it's not worth it.

Codexx

coktoe

jive238

jive238

Since as stated before Im a bit tired of bald men and space marines running around in my games.

Witzbold

The game will no doubt sell, even with these potential flaws. Afterall, like Cliffy B said, games rely on the hype machine, and Microsoft will certainly be riding this title all the way to the bank.

LittleBigPlaneteer

josh924

TheIrishNinja

pretty thorough impresses ions, sounds like the scope is large enough to easily get lost into the "beautiful mess" territory discussed, i guess we'll see if the crew has enough time to tighten things up.
im trying to think of the last time a GDC impression sighted control/etc issues that actually got addressed before release, and im drawing a blank.

TheIrishNinja

Saxboy

Hopefully, the slow-down and camera arnt bad enough to prohibit any of said lootings.

ArmyofJuan

Although I still have 0 clue as to what the hell the game is suposed to be about.

But these SSes look good tho!

Witzbold

champ24 vamp_24(psn)

Oh yeah, they had that as a downloadable video on Xbox Live Marketplace for one of the Bringing it Home events (either X07 or E3). It was very over-the-top and very cliched.

Anyways, the gameplay sounds pretty good. Still, I'm hoping for a demo just so I can be sure that its a game I'd want to spend money on.

josh924

Mikey G

I really don't give two cents about story nor this trilogy bullshit.

Does it offer the nostalgic endless loot runs in current-gen?

Fyren

jackal888

logicaldefense

Beyond Good and Evil

Red Peter

I want Diablo 3 :(

BTW, How long did it take for Denis to sound like an annoying vacuum seller knocking at your door? Or is Jehovas witnesses more apt?

PS: I know, I'm mean when it comes to Too Human and denis.

Irenicus-the one and only

gamadaya

sheeeillaaa

PATSCRU

wow-wh0re

Ghede

Fyren

Reneg

jkl567