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IGA And ID Team For Free, Web-Based Quake Live

igl — Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:58:29 MDT

I thought this was a complete waste of corporate energy first. But then my toughts matured and I thought about the years-old shockwave version of quake that has been done before. Who else but ID could you wish for to push forward in the 3D-browser-games market if there is one yet. This could be another step in the direction that VRML failed to pull off. How significant it could be depends how good they gonna pull it off. e.g. I can totally imagin embedding my own quake level to show off on my website, even if its just dump, 1 of 10000 ppl will make something significant. That is, if there is user generated content possible at all and prolly 100² other factors. Prolly not since one could just remove the ads for levels on their website, and now im thinking in circles.

igl

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nytestalker — Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:05:12 MDT

But... I still own and play a copy of Q3 on a nightly basis...

nytestalker

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ShaggE — Wed, 16 Apr 2008 09:42:22 MDT

So... play a gimped version of Q3 that'll almost undoubtedly be full of bugs and such... or buy the real thing for 5 to 10 bucks. Hmmm...

ShaggE

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Archangel — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:55:20 MST

meant to finish off with "*waves bought copy of Q3 around*

Archangel

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Archangel — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:54:41 MST

but.. but... but...

Archangel

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slappyMCslappy — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:02:36 MST

what's the big deal with in-game adverts.????? are you people that brainwashed that when you see something then you have to buy it??? I didn't rush out and by axe when i saw it in rainbow six vegas, come one, REALLY!!!!!!

slappyMCslappy

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EdwinJ85 — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:06:08 MST

I bet even my old duffer of a PC could run this.

Yay!

EdwinJ85

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Malmer — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 01:38:16 MST

This will be a fun diversion from Quake Wars, and it'll probably even run on my gf's laptop when I'm away from home.

I'll definitely contribute!

Malmer

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puffa469 — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:39:11 MST

Ahhh, the way in-game advertising should work, placed into free or discounted games, not full priced, $60 ones.

puffa469

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KM91 — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:10:11 MST

sounds Fun.

KM91

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Tei — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:57:44 MST

unrelated random warsow yourtube video hits kotaku for 300 points damage ;-)

Tei

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Kaikara — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:40:36 MST

Anyone for Quake Zero on Wii?? ^_^

Personally I love this idea, got a bit of time to kill on an internet browser, with a computer with no games? Quake Zero will fit the bill nicely! It could even go truly crossplatform eventually with the next gen of handhelds!

Kaikara

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Amp — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:13:42 MST

@BigMoose:

You realize of course that this is the Quake Zero project, which was announced at last year's QuakeCon, and has been in development for even longer?

Also, @Anyone else who is curious:

Allow me to clear up some things about Quake Live.

If you've played Quake 3: Arena, you've played Quake Live, the gameplay between the two is no different. The graphics have gotten a slight touch-up (mostly in the HUD), but this is Quake 3. Albiet, it's a free Quake 3, running in your browser, but it's Quake 3.

Quake Live is also meant to serve a secondary purpose for id Software. It's not much of a secret that Quake Five(Not Live, lol rhyme) is in development right now. Quake Live will serve as a platform to proof-of-concept many of the features planned for Quake 5.

Amp

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Bando — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:49:01 MST

@Asbestos_Underwear:

Read "Web-Based", also, free...

or don't, just keep jerking off to Crysis.

@Luppi91:

Aw balls... still free! Though I wouldn't be surprised to see some form of spyware in there :(

Bando

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Aquashark — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:23:24 MST

1. this will be standard Quake3 with some graphics improvements and with (hopefully) tons of community oriented features

2. game can be played fullscreen

3. stfu about spyware. this isn't some dodgy asian MMO who asks for your social security number, it's an id software game. these are the people who make their games open source (up to Quake3) helping a lot of independent devs and the industry in general.

4. gameplay > graphics. go play 3D Mark 2008!

5. this is a well deserved update. Quake3 is still going strong in competitive form, being selected as a game for ESWC 2008 (over UT3). Quake3 is the best from of FPS e-sports to ever grace this emerging e-sports phenomenon, but who cares.. you're a bunch of console n00bs and prolly are scratching your heads in disbelief.

6. you will get raped so bad in this game you'd wish you never tried it and go straight back to Halol ^_^

Aquashark

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Luppi91 — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:50:55 MST

Just checked the Beta site :( It says in the T&C that you have to download it
:( I guess it means this aint going to be browser based, unless they change it. Hope they do. I want all my friends on this.

Luppi91

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Gam3r — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:43:51 MST

@Asbestos_Underwear:
They don't allow the ads to be affected by in game blood, gunshots, etc. That would be false advertising...

Gam3r

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Irenicus-the one and only — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:27:15 MST

Atleast we don't pay for being subject to advertisments.

Irenicus-the one and only

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nesdude — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:13:45 MST

@GMC:

[nationalcheeseemporium.org] (Online advertising for the gamer generation)

That's hopefully the link you're looking for, and the game was SWAT 4. Scary stuff, although I guess that's where the money is at these days, in advertising. If the ads don't phone home, I'm good with them (especially if the game itself is free), but anything more than that and I'm weary.

-nesdude

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MXs219 — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:12:52 MST

Never liked quake that much dont know why but its not the most appealing game on the market.

MXs219

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BigMoose — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 12:24:20 MST

OH SO INNOVATIVE!

Wait...

Oh yeah, Garage Games and Instant Action already did it.

BigMoose

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chiefpoopingpants — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 12:10:54 MST

Yet another Id innovation. I can't wait for Epic to copy this idea.

AS long as it doesn't have Spyware, this is gonna own.

chiefpoopingpants

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Tei — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:40:55 MST

Integrated community features is what most free quake games lack. Because theres no central databases to store players accounts, and stuff. "Central server" and opensource often don't mix. Is somewhat sad, because having a central server can add to a game: stats (like these from TF2), achievements (like XBox live), maybe score tables, guild vs guild scores, etc.. that "simple" stuff add to a game. Can be done by hand, and there are people that run "ladders" on free games, like QuakeWorld, but having it streamlined and automatized with the architecture can be good.
Anyway I doubst that game will be for the typical harcore fps player.. because graphics will be much simpler. But, who knows? You don't know what people will love or hate, you need to try.

Tei

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Haldir — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:39:02 MST

@ GMC: A little bit late, but that "PC Shooter" you were talking about where they were able to track how long you looked at ads in game was Battlefield 2142.

Haldir

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FrigidAir44 — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:38:49 MST

At everybody who hasn't tried a 3D game in a browser... they have come a LONG way. They run full screen and at 60FPS as long as you have a computer that isn't decades old. You can even tweak your resolution and settings on some.

As for the ads in games, I hate seeing ads in games that I paid for. But if its free, I don't mind. No such thing as a free lunch... and maybe splattering somebody's head on a Burger King ad will make me want to eat a whopper.

FrigidAir44

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Klappstuhl — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:33:48 MST

*charges Plasma Rifle

Klappstuhl

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nem — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:09:52 MST

WOHO!

nem

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Irenicus-the one and only — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:59:44 MST

Browser games are like mobile games and flash for me. Don't like, don't want and don't care for them. Not yet anyway. But nice to see something like Quake for a change compared to penguins or something.

Irenicus-the one and only

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jrghoull — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:52:40 MST

edit: apparently that question was brought up, and answered. sorry for the (double) post.

jrghoull

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jrghoull — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:48:25 MST

so i take it that this is this quake zero?

jrghoull

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guspaz — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:42:47 MST

For those who are confused, this is essentially Quake 3, for free, in a web browser, with a bunch of community stuff tacked on. An interested experiment on Id's part.

guspaz

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justhesh — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:40:51 MST

NC Soft's Exteel now has in-game ads. And I gotta say, they're neat looking.

justhesh

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Protector one — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:36:21 MST

Web-based?? What kind of voodoo-engine have they got in the oven?

Protector one

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Xabora — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:13:55 MST

[quakelive.idsoftware.com]

*ahem*

Xabora

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Tei — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:06:37 MST

The latest version of VMWare Server also run on the browser (with a tomcat service on background). I hated it at first, but once you set it fullscreen it work smoothly. So seems that a webbrowser can be a portal to launch something fullscreen withouth a huge perfomance hit. Other than PDF files on Firefox. Opening a PDF file on firefox may kill your comp0tar.

Tei

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Tepoz — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:43:23 MST

@Hansel: Carmack's goal was to make this platform agnostic. Probably so.

Tepoz

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GUNJAM — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:33:46 MST

What are you talking about? Valve record statistics on EVERYTHING. Who's lying to who? Huh?

GUNJAM

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Horsefly — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:19:30 MST

Corporatism masquerading as Socialism.
IT IS A FUCKING TRAP!

I'll stick with my Halo 3 and my TF2, thanks. At least Bungie and Valve won't LIE to me about mechanically reprocessing my soul into that of an I.D. tagged demographic consumer slave.

*Does the Dew whilst donning a Headcrab hat*

Horsefly

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Clushje — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:15:01 MST

Oh hell yes, this is great, show me as many ads as you want!

Clushje

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Hansel — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:07:51 MST

I wonder if this will work in my Mac, one of the best FPS-games ever made, after Tribes games of course.

Hansel

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jiSh — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:43:38 MST

Free, browser accessible online Quake? Sign me up!

jiSh

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天雷 — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:41:00 MST

I hate the word freemium, but I sure do love the concept of online games in a browser. As long as it works with a browser like Firefox, that is - if they alienate the mac and linux users by making it IE only it will suck horribly.

天雷

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NateN — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:25:30 MST

Whenever I think of Advertisement-supported gaming, or in game advertising, I think of this comic:
[www.penny-arcade.com]

But, free (as in beer) games are a good thing, as long as it doesn't spyware up your computer.

NateN

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Kyle81 — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:18:53 MST

@Obsidian: Being played in the web browser, I doubt its going to look any better, if anything it might look worse than the pics or it will be small windowed version of the game.

Kyle81

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TOCATL — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:16:50 MST

finally a REAL FAST fps and not all the turtle slow console fps...

TOCATL

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Obsidian — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:15:57 MST

Office productivity will from now on be non-existent.

The screenshots looks exactly like Quake 3, so I hope they're mock-ups and there will be an actual improvement to the graphics, levels, player models, etc. or I'll just go back to my copy of Q3.

It'll need to support mods and custom maps for this thing to be successful. Q3 in part relied on the community for its popularity.

Obsidian

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Baramos — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:14:45 MST

A free online game worth playing?! I'll believe it when I see it...

Baramos

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GM08 — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:14:33 MST

this looks very interesting. I'm kinda skeptical, but I'll give it a look.

GM08

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Tei — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:09:09 MST

Is a interesting experiment for the suit guys. Good luck!.
For gamers, theres lots of interesting quake3 alike games, like Nexuiz, Warsow, OpenArena, Aliens Arena, Cube,... etc.. A new one will be wellcomed :D, more because all others are mostly opensource, so a closed source created by profesionals can show something news, imho.

Tei

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ethermay — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:08:05 MST

@Southrncomfortjm:

AMEN BROTHER!

ethermay

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eastx — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:58:12 MST

I'll definitely try this out. I wonder how well it will run...

eastx

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entres — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:51:22 MST

There are so much free online shotter with the quake engine out there... ID really have to do something to get this little baby up.

But hey, free is free.

entres

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Duoae — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:50:50 MST

@fyre:

Yeah, i'm pretty sure they're the same thing.

Now, all they have to do is port threewave to this web-based interface and i'll be set!

Duoae

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What The Geek — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:45:01 MST

@GMC:

Yikes.

What The Geek

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SupaPhly — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:37:45 MST

first, counter strike online, now this? SWEET!

SupaPhly

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fyre — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:37:35 MST

So....is this the same thing as Quake Zero?

fyre

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GMC — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:35:15 MST

@What The Geek:
i can't remember what game it was (PC shooter.. that narrows it down!) that could monitor how long your viewpoint lingered on a ad "poster" in the game world. This shit its real.
*tinfoil hat at jaunty angle

GMC

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muscrat_01 — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:32:21 MST

Awesome, but right now Warsow has me hooked.

muscrat_01

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What The Geek — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:30:37 MST

@GMC:

heh, maybe there will be a mandatory camera attachment that tracks your eyeball focus during gameplay to determine how long you look at each ad.

Seriously though, the point you've made concerns me as well - will this be *just* ad supported or will there be a buttload of spyware associated with it that tracks everything else I'm doing? I'm ok with ads - that's fine by me. Spyware? Eew. If it dumps a ton of spyware on my computer I'll go out and pick up a copy of Quake 3 on ebay on the cheap.

What The Geek

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Southrncomfortjm — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:27:09 MST

Quake 3 is greatness. Just straight up fast-paced shooting action. I say yes, emphatically yes to this
idea.

Southrncomfortjm

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What The Geek — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:26:46 MST

@phantam:

Coke and McDonalds will be happy as a hooker in vegas - they'll be getting exposure to a lot, and I mean A LOT of 18-24 year old males. This is an advertiser's wet dream come true. The primary focus of Quake will be the 18-24 year old men who make up a large portion of gamers - they also make up a large portion of dollars spent in the US. Everyone in advertising / marketing is always looking for a new way to target that demographic - this is marketing gold.

What The Geek

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NinjaMarion — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:25:01 MST

I think this is a great idea, and would kind of like to see it used for other games. I'm sick of paying full price of $50-60 for a game only for it to be littered with ads and billboards and sponsors. TV doesn't get away with that, so why should videogames? If you've gotta sit through tons of ads, they should be paying for the game, channel, concert, or whatever.

Obviously, this idea doesn't come close to working with some games, as Final Fantasy 23, sponsored by KY Jelly and full of malt liquor billboards would kill the mood a little.

NinjaMarion

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GMC — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:24:25 MST

@What The Geek:
a good point well made. Ads only stick in the throat if you've already paid to play the game. Its like being charged to look at billboards. Or a shitload of ads on Sky TV.. i've already paid! howabout not having 6 minutes of ads!

Free, ad supported stuff that doesnt phone the mothership every two minutes with personal details about me will be welcomed. I hope its just in-game banners and that it doesnt overy identify me and how long i stare at billboard etc. Here's hoping!

GMC

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phantam — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:22:24 MST

gotta agree, if its a clean app that doesnt require spyware... i dont mind ads in game to offset the price to zero :)

phantam

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Asbestos_Underwear — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:21:24 MST

Quake 3 screenshots?? Wow, that engine really is blast from the past. I used to play this on a Voodoo3 card. But now? Should I really insult my gfx card with that engine? Nowadays this is the game for soccer moms with integrated chip sets. Also let's see how happy Coke, McDonalds and Intel are when the gibs splatter all over their ads.

Asbestos_Underwear

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invictus — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:21:00 MST

@ Rbecho or maybe some OSP Capture-Strike?

invictus

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What The Geek — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:20:32 MST

My head just exploded. Seriously - I read this and KABOOM!! No more head. Then it got better and I set about typing this comment.

Shockingly, I'm all for ad supported games like this. It's free to play, and all I have to put up with is some ads. So what? There are ads everywhere. On TV, in magazines, on billboards - everywhere. Ads in games only bother me when it's just for the sake of greed. The best example is Bbox Live. After paying for the service, and paying for a shiny new theme, I have to put up with ads for T-Mobile covering up said theme.... it's just greedy. If XBL were ad supported, I wouldn't care, however, MS is getting a fuckton of cash for those ads (as will id and IGA in this case) because they target the coveted 18-24 male demographic. Those are the most spend-happy people in the world, and advertisers will pay top dollar to push their product to them.

I'm not sure where I was going with all that - but I hope to see more freemium games in the future.

What The Geek

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RBecho — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:17:32 MST

Interesting. I really liked Q3 and if this lets me play it without resorting to less than legal means I will be tempted. However, what about mods? Could they find a way to work that in, because I would like me some Rocket Arena or Q3F.

RBecho

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mobbish — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:17:17 MST

productivity at work -100

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GMC — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:14:31 MST

if i don't have to download a spyware-infested install file, this may be the end of my social life.

GMC

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Banedon38 — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:11:38 MST

I don't mind fragging someone by a Macdonald's in-game signboard *shrug*

Banedon38

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blackadvent — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:10:40 MST

What? Free... Quake?

blackadvent

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Nissan288 — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:09:56 MST

freemium? wtf? when did free no longer just meant that something didn't cost money?

Nissan288