<![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest - Kotaku Comments]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest - Kotaku Comments]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> If you read a bit, you'll see that some games are not there because there is no data available.

Charleslegrand

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> Runescape for the win lol

Charleslegrand

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> More people need to digg this story! :)

SirBruce

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> realy what will happen with wow just as fast as it went up it will go down. I know they already lost 3 accounts with me and my parrents. Sorry but Customer service and support should come before proffits.

Zephroth

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> Square-Enix releases a FFXI census report every year. According to it, there are still "500,000+ players". Now, they don't specify how much over; they've said the same thing for 3 years running. The login distribution graphs don't show any noticeable decline. Perhaps the problem was you didn't have to expansions; the census notes that new zones have become popular and old ones less.

[www.playonline.com]

SirBruce

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> @Skunky:
FFXI is holding up because SquareEnix hasn't released any hard numbers regarding their subscriber base for years.

I've revisited the game after 2 years of absence, and it was really a shame (Ragnarok Server). The auction houses completely empty, the cities almost completely empty, the level areas almost completely empty (no surprises here), and that was during european prime time. I also made chars on Fairy, Seraph, Kujata, Asura - same thing there. Even though I left because of the RMTs ruining the game, there at least WAS an economy to ruin.

I highly doubt the user count is still accurate.

Mendorian

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> Everybody stop hating on WOW, It's #1 because it's the best.

pumpkinguts

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> I'm surprised how well FFXI has been holding up. Kujata ftw!

I'm also surprised that UO's still holding steady, with a relatively flat line.

Skunky

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> That's really impressive. It doesn't even show signs of stopping. I think as long as Blizzard can crank out really good, indepth expansions at least once every two years, this things got some Chun-Li sized legs. On a side note, I'm interested to know how roughly how many people signed up for Wow after the episode on South Park. I'm just curious to see how much of an effect it had on the game.

finalgearsolid

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> If you go to the site, not only are the charts bigger, but there are other charts too... all of the MMOs are represented.

wraith808

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> We need a new space-themed MMO that doesn't suck.

Atrahasis

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> @NeoAkira:

You mean these: [www.mmogchart.com] [www.mmogchart.com] ?

placebofud

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> I'm sure Ragnarok Online beats out all of these if you consider everyone in the illegal Private Servers

Xagest

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> Burn in hell SWG!

Livid

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> 10 million people can't... be.. wrong. Mwa-ha-ha.

avconsumer

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> nom nom nom...rofl.

geekgrrl

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> Yeah, just wait 'til the Hello Kitty MMO gets out of beta, bitchez.

beeporama (brian.j.parker)

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> Ragnarok has had 17M before... it's clearly not in "all others" but never gets tracked by these guys.

fuchikoma

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> I do not trust any chart that does not count Maple Story.

F

tanhaauser

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> @Zunnoab: Yeah...for SOE whose shot themselves in the foot with Vanguard and SWG and even has alienated old members of Planetside

I'd play FFXI if I hadn't been banned twice now because they seem to have issues with charging my credit card, don't tell me, and then when it's too late, ban my account and don't let me recover it. Why can't they be like other MMOs and just not let me sign in until I pay.

Jomo7

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> I couldn't get into WOW. Have a lot of friends on it, made several medium level characters but it just felt empty. Really didn't see any point in the game other than to level and kill even more and bigger creatures. Kind've lame.

jacksons98

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> @Sinfjotle:
I went looking for Phantasy Star too, but I guess it was forgotten.

Toothball

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> Man I hope Stargate Worlds can etch out a living.

mikecoscia

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> I've played several MMOs, but none of them can hold my interest long. I played FFXI first, but little did I know how HARD it was. To the point of not having fun. Switched to WoW and it seemed much too easy. Yes fun, but where is the sense of accomplishment?

Played City of Heroes for awhile, great fun using the character design, but not much in the long term play value. But now with them adding in Villains with the package, and doling out new content every few months since the start, I'm giving it a try again.

Kuromimi

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> Just thought I'd point out to all the people complaining about the size of charts (too many, not going back and replying to all of them) that you can see them full-size by following the link. I guess Mcwhertor wanted to just give the gist of the charts, since the details are the only reason to read further on MMOGChart.

brieeyeball

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> What is sad is all the LOTRO fanbois are in denial over this guys charting methods...
They even think that the original 800k mis-reported from the Boston Globe is more correct (where they guy took an advert from Turbine that said 4 millions "CHARACTERS" made and divided that by 5...not realizing that it could be 5 PER server at 12 servers....lol)
No...I think this shows just how boring and crappy all MMO's after WoW have been..
Later

openedge1

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> WERE IS MAPLESTORY!!!!!
DO I HAVE TO PUT IT ON THERE MY SELF.....COZ I WONT!
*angry face* >8-(

LordChris915

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> Looking at how the stats are gathered on that site that is referenced they are hardly accurate. Going by the way that that site gathers the stats Lineage II should have 16 million subscribers.

mondog

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> As an Ex-JAGEX employee i am disgusted that they hold a significant amount more than many good MMO's.

dsvella

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> OMGi used to play Tibia it was the first MMO i played and it was filled with Swed's that use to PK ppl and yell SWEEEEE! all the time till like most MMO's now a days (non-WoW ones) became "infested" with BR's (Brazilian) and ruined the game for most people. That and the constant war between the Swed vs Swed vs BR vs everyone else got me out of the game. Game seem to explode now. was 10 servers when i started now it has like 60 or so. Ahh those were the days

Pound my tom-tom

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> Can we get a Cha-Ching for Blizzard?

Fyren

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> I hope Darkfall plays the EVE online card. Appeal to a niche audience, and just keep growing. Nothing is going to be able to compete with WoW for a long time, considering that it's carebear, idiot, and child friendly. Oh well. At least it's eradicating that "all mmo players are stinky losers" stigma.

skullpanda

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> What th crap. I know WoW is big, but THAT big? And runescape bigger than EQ 1/2 combined? That online make this chart very suspect in my eyes..

Murrytmds

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> I'd love to see someone attempt to challenge world of warcraft. Crap like vanguard and Lotro certainly suck to much to do so.

magically_delicious

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> Now I want my honor and arena points.

Wyld

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> watch out Wow! EVE is on your tail!!

Ra is on TNG

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> @IDontC: WoW was sustainable huge let's say... 2 years ago. But in the last months have been getting popular, with all the TV adds. Big badda boom! Grrr overpopulated servers and inflation I tell ya.

Anaxtasian

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> @MeanMF:
lol... In the other hand, I want me some WoW :(

Anaxtasian

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> Take that FFXI! God I hate that game!

SuperMekman

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> i agree too bad guild wars isnt on there , but of course no subscription fee. Which is a good thing :)

lifeinthefridge

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> @evslin:

Great Plan!

EnigmaNemesis

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> @evslin: a ban on Sony/X-Box.

evslin

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> @heartless_king: I'm calling for a ban on all mmo related news because it always breaks down to someone or some people always having to bitch about WoW.

I'd also like to call for a ban on Nintendo news because that brings the Sony fanboys out, a ban Sony news because that brings the X-Box fans out, a ban X-Box news because that brings the anti-MS crowd out, a ban on console gaming because you'll have people saying PC gaming is better, and also a ban on PC gaming because you'll have people laughing about video cards costing more than a Nintendo Wii.

Actually, let's just ban everything, that way nobody will have anything to disagree on.

evslin

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> I'm calling for a ban on all mmo related news because it always breaks down to someone or some people always having to bitch about WoW. I used to hate WoW. Used to hate all MMO's. Thought the same thoughts you did, "Pshaw, spend money monthly to play a game? Get real". I'm on my 2nd lvl 70 toon, in an endgame raiding guild, a full time college student, and employed part-time since that is all I need working 20+ hours a week. All possible arguements are null and void, so please do us who do play ANY mmo a favor and just save your crying for someone who really cares. Most of us spend as much time playing online as you cryers do playing on consoles. Most of you haters haven't even tried an MMO. I know from experience that's how most of you are, I was one.

I find it remarkable that Blizz makes enough money off of wow subscriptions alone to have more money than some countries in the world. Maybe that is their plan, they'll get all of us WoW/Diablo/SC players together and form our own country. We'll take over a chunk of Asia just because it would be so damn ironic. I think the only thing that could kill WoW at this point (even if it has a large drop, a large drop from 10 mil still leaves you with a few million people which is still a helluva lot more than the rest), will be something of Blizz's own creation. They've got the forumla down now, they just need to keep it fresh or do something new with it to keep us happy and hungry.

heartless_king

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> @Irenicus-the one and only:

:-/

LOL!

EnigmaNemesis

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> I'd be interested to see a list of non-subscription games. Guild Wars for the win.

Rokuchan

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> How many of those playing WoW are also playing one or more of the others?

... Are there only 10 Million MMO players out there? And every one of them has at one point subscribed to WoW?

Ghede

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> @EnigmaNemesis: hehhe, okey I won't, besides, there are other things that can make one cry. Like Shenmue 3!!! /cries

Irenicus-the one and only

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> EVE Online is still the best MMO there is.

PsycheDiver

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> heh.. I don't know what's worse, playing WoW or hanging out in pubs.

kyosen

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> FFXI definitely deserves to be up there. Best MMO.

Shiku

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> well on the bright side thats about 10 million fat lifeless addicts that wont take up space in our lives, in pubs etc.

scram

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> @necrotoxin:
If you're talking about Warhammer Online then it's just not going to work. Not unless they tighten up the combat a good deal from the last time I played and improve their PVP battlegrounds clone.

Odin

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> @Irenicus-the one and only:

/agree

Don't bring up bad feelings please!

LOL!

EnigmaNemesis

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> @JetPogi: I was looking for it too. That's the only one I ever played, short of a free demo of WOW.

Saith17

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> @EnigmaNemesis: I just want SWG to burn... I can't believe they are reporting a damn increase... whats wrong with gamers?

Irenicus-the one and only

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> I played WoW for awhile, but felt too much like a stupid noob so quit. Though I did play EQ back in the day, but had people to twink my characters. Starting from scratch is such a pain.

Sugarbloodsuckers

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> They cant get accurate numbers, or any for that matter from the other companies, because they don't release any like Blizzard does.

And in all truthfulness, WoW having this much success is a double edged sword.

EnigmaNemesis

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> Is this the same place that admitted they pulled the numbers out of their hat in the past?

Everquest is one of the (IF NOT THE) top MMORPGs for SoE.

Zunnoab

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> @AdmiralRupert: As opposed to millions of lives wasting billions of hours offline in console games?

Get off it, M8. Gamers game.

Tubatic

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> @tamago007:

It sucks because it appeals to a casual market? Or does it suck because it just sucks?

Kaljin

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> I do wonder why *EVERYONE* plays WoW when other games are fun (I've played EverQuest and FFXI), but seeing 500k (FFXI) vs 10 *MILLION* (WoW) is a HUGE difference.

Ecks

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> @AdmiralRupert: Not millions with a problem though, I had problems lol but not everyone does, and as long as you play moderatly it can be great fun and the only game you need.

Irenicus-the one and only

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> PSU isn't on it. That's the only MMO I play.

Sailorcancer

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> WoW sux

tamago007

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> Millions of lives wasting billions of hours online. That is the single saddest thing I have ever seen in my life.

AdmiralRupert

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> Yeah whats that again about LOTRO and other mmos claiming they will take a chunk from Wow?

D3Anon

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> Runescape second biggest? WTF! lol

I'm glad to see EvE Online growing, a game I played on and off for years hardcore. Great game.

Come on Star Wars Galaxies, die die die. I hope it dies real soon, to teach SOE and LA a valuable lesson!!! Oh god I miss you so :( Whyyyyyyyyy

Irenicus-the one and only

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> All those lives... gone. A damn shame.

smashbruvah

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> For all the "WoW will never die" commenters out there, it might be informative to look at the MMOG by Relative Size graph, and notice that, much like WoW dominates the market now, there was a time when Lineage was just as overwhelmingly present. And then eventually it lost its share to steady erosion. And Lineage was by far the dominant game for significantly longer than WoW has been around. So I'd be very careful about making predictions of immortality just yet.

icelight

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> Hi guys, thanks for the link to my charts; I hope you're all enjoying them. :) The charts are new as of February 2008 although some games don't have data updated since 2007 or 2006.

As others have pointed out, I only track subscription-based MMOGs, and then only those I have data for. There are a lot of Free-to-Play and microtransaction-based games that aren't tracked. Also, for games like Dofus and RuneScape, only the paying subscriptions are tracked; they would be much higher if they included free players.

Guild Wars has registered 4,878,000 accounts since release. But how many of those are actually active players? There's no subscription free, so you can't really compare it to subscription MMOGs. Also, I would argue that games like Guild Wars and Hellgate: London are not really MMOGs anyway since the world has no persistant state; it's just persitant characters and a lot of instances that reset.

If the charts are too small, you can go to the site directly to look at them in the Charts section. There's also a very long Analysis & Conclusions section which has more data and discussion. If you can't find a particular game (someone mentioned Matrix Online), you need to look at one of the charts for the smaller games. Also, there's an Excel file in the Downloads section for those who want to look at the numbers and the charts in detail. The FAQ covers all questions as to sources and methods and why a game you want to see probably isn't listed.

Any other questions? :)

Bruce

SirBruce

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> wow i play dofus i never though it would be on a chart like this because most of the people playing it are french

llama-king

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> PC gaming is DEAD! Fuck you...

homernoy

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> @Bisu: Wow. These numbers officially show that WoW isnt going anywhere. For a long time.

The funny thing about that is everyone I played EQ2 with before telling them I was leaving when WoW hit the shelves, they told me I was stupid because it would not last, and they said the graphics sucked, Lol. Three months passed and WoW had a higher subscription base than EQ2. Six months passed and WoW had already exceeded all other MMO's (those on the list). One year passed and dammit if they didn't keep rising. I wonder what they would say to me know, even though I don't play anymore.

AnonUserAnonymous

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> @GenericKen: Rich enough to own their own nation. Technically, they already do.

NKato

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> I think back to all the money Blizzard spent supporting Diablo 2 and refining its gameplay through 10 pretty significant patch releases with no return on investment whatsoever.

I think now to the obscene amounts of money Blizzard is making applying those game concepts to WoW. It's getting to the point where WoW doesn't belong on these subscription charts, but on a chart of national GDPs.

Assuming $15 a month and a gross revenue of $1.8 billion a year, they'd rank at #152 out of 183 on this list:
"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)"

GenericKen

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> a game like WoW isn't fun, it's too easy, and i've played it before when it was called diablo 2

hoeney

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> The graphs here are from 2006! Not exactly up to date. This is probably from before Wow hit 8 million subscribers.

Leathersoup

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> @surft: Are free to play MMO's subscriber-based? No. So, no it wouldn't be covered. Boom.

NKato

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> I had my experience of MMORPG with Final Fantasy IX. Played it for a year or more. I didn't personally know anybody else that played it. It was fun though. Would've been better if I knew somebody that I could play the game with. Probably won't get back into an MMORPG because it takes too much time. At least I can say I've experienced the wonders of an MMORPG once in my life.

kirstpo

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> @combatmedic77: Just wait for Bioware to come with their new MMO. I'm hoping it will be all-encompassing like SWG was, while being just as "fun" as WoW.

NKato

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> @brent_w:

I don't mean games with a large amount of Korean players, I mean Korean MMORPG's. You know, the one's that we get updates about all the time here on Kotaku. I'm pretty sure they weren't included.

NeoAkira

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> It's interesting to see the numbers of games you are familiar with. Star Wars Galaxies, for example, seemed to have considerably greater losses after they released their "Combat Upgrade" and "New Game Enhancements" in 2005. Good riddance, I say. The revisions made a fairly likable game utter trash. Still, I'm surprised to see ~100k subscribers listed going into 2008.

What makes me happy is seeing EVE Online steadily increasing. Great game that deserves a solid fanbase.

What puzzles me is Anarchy Online not having listings past Jan. 2006 on their 0-120,000 chart. I guess it might be because of new free accounts, though they do list games like Runescape. Shame the account base is pictured at so low at that point too: one of my favorite MMOs, once they cleaned up the majority of the bugs.

Xenigma

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> hey look its pac-man!!!! but seriously looking at that chart i can understand why games like marvel universe online were canceled, companies probably look at that chart and say "why even try".

ninja_squirrel

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> @thejakeman: probably disagrees with you: BB's history, but it's free and available on SCHTHACK. Little buggy, but the core game is fully intact and excellent if you like PSO.

And yeah...WoW sucks. Now if other companies would see this graph and say "hmmm maybe trying this is a waste of our time" they'd stop churning out so much shit MMOs and work on GOOD games. But they're all delusional and think they're going to get significant shares of that WoW playerbase. Hint: They aren't.

Karlott

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> It amazes me that World of Warcraft is continuing to gain subscribers constantly even after being around for 3+ years. It also makes me shake my head that so many people waste their lives on online RPGs.

Kavatar

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> does the survey cover free to play mmo's?

surft

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> It's not even that Guild Wars doesn't require a fee to play, it doesn't share the characteristics of an MMO. It's more closer to Diablo, since you don't see the majority of people out of towns.

Monstercloud

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> @Bluecell: I used to play Runescape quite a bit, and I loved it. The graphics are definitely sub par, but aside from that, it's a solid experience (in every way that an MMORPG should be). I'm not surprised it lies at #2.

Durandel

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> Phantasy Star Online? where? Blue Burst is still running...

thejakeman has died of dysentry

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> Looking at that pie chart makes me wonder why any developers would bother with an MMO at the moment. When WoW dies, if Blizzard doesn't have something to fill the void (unlikely) then will be the time to strike, but does developing now put a game in that juicy, hypothetical position? I doubt it.

Gouki4u

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> It pains me that Runescape does so well...if these graphs are to be believed. Everytime I see that game, I wonder how people can play it. It's boring, incredibly flawed, and hideous to look at.

Bluecell

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> I always wonder how FFXI fared against other MMOs other than WoW. Love it to death.

Torusan

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> You can play it for free though.

DAMN YOU WITZBOLDDDDDDDDDDDD

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> @chugger1992: Because it costs money. Heh, I used to play that game for free back in high school and given my experience with it, no way is it worth even $5. Let us not look back on such dark days.

Yuki

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> @Iron_Dragon_2.0: Runescape is subscription based. Guild Wars isn't.

DAMN YOU WITZBOLDDDDDDDDDDDD

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> I can't read these tiny graphs!

ricetrippycreeps

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> @CheckersMcGavern: here here. All too true.

Vanguard: Saga of Heroes is one of the most beautiful, and wonderful mmo's I've played and I've played almost every single mmo listed on this list, and even betaed some of them. Which one do I come back to?.. Vanguard.

Anyway, yeah, these graphs are sorta bleh.

AndrewDB

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> @Yuki: $5 a month and contained within a web browser- why not?

scy1192

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> Popularity doesn't = quality.
This just means the games much more over-rated than I originally thought.

CheckersMcGavern

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> Wait wait wait. Runescape counts yet Guild Wars doesn't?

Iron_Dragon_2.0

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> If you include MapleStory that chart will look different.

JetPogi

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> Runescape....wow.

Vecha

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> Bah, we all know that subscription figures are in no way related to a game's quality. WoW, with all its subscribers, is filled to the brim with assholes you wish you never spent any time with. FF11, on the other hand.... on the other hand...

muu

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> Runescape has the second largest market share? Are you kidding me?

Yuki

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> Where's Guild Wars?

HigglyPiggly

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> @brent_w:
Oh sorry. On South Park's "Make Love Not Warcraft" episode, Cartman is walking through an alliance town and says, "Look at all these guys. I bet they are all Korean". Your post just reminded me of that. LOL. Sorry about the confusion.

DigitalHero

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> I'm not into MMOs too much because I don't want to pay twenty bucks a month to play them. If it's like XBL where you pay only fifty bucks a month then yeah that's reasonable, but then again I don't like to pay fifty dollars a month0_o...

weeoo

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> @DigitalHero: Cartman?

brent_w

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> To be fair, all the Asian accounts are gold farmers!

:-p

EnigmaNemesis

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> Where the hell is Guild Wars! Even though you only need to purchase the core game, one still needs to subscribe (setup an account), you just don't need to pay a monthly fee. Guild Wars works off a different cash model, you pay full price on three different campaigns, an expansion and some additional minor stuff.

And yeah it's no WoW, but it actually way better than many paid for mmo's, heh.

When the heck is Warhammer Online going to be out already :(

zzt711

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> Hmm, WoW seems to be a giant Pacman, eating everything in its path.

zdude255

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> No Phantasy Star Universe? Or am I blind?

Sinfjotle

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> Its very impressive, but keep in-mind, over 1/2 of that WoW subscriber-base is from Asia-alone.

"2.5+ million in North America, 2+ million in Europe, and approximately 5.5 million in Asia."

SnakeCL

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> @brent_w:
"What do you call Lineage & Lineage 2?
The vast majority of subscribers to both games are Korean."

Ok Cartman hahaha

DigitalHero

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> [jp]


+ Watch video

Damn all of your big MMOs. Again, I say...Blitz.

pylon_trooper

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> I think that it dose include regional content, but pointedly only includes subscription games. ROSE Online, Maple Story, Gunbound, Kartracer, and all the rest are microtrans supported games. Maple Story is big enough in the US to have it's own cardgame (in Toys R Us no less, not just cardshops) but has 0 subscribers.

Random1512

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> I hadn't realized how low Ultima Online's numbers have become.

brent_w

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> City of Heroes sure died, didn't it.

Hrist

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> Now that I think about it, where is this guy getting these numbers from to create this chart?

DigitalHero

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> @NeoAkira: @Vyse24:

What do you call Lineage & Lineage 2?
The vast majority of subscribers to both games are Korean.

(Not to mention they are the flagship games of Korean MMO giant NCsoft.)

brent_w

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> So Square still hasn't updated their current people playing in like two years or whatever? It's not 500,000, it's probably a bit lower.

Sinfjotle

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> "For anyone who has a remote interest in the MMO market or is surprised by the low numbers for EverQuest..."

Well, Everquest is almost 10 years old so that has to be a factor and there is a sequel out.

DigitalHero

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> That's Insane! That means Blizzard makes around $150,000,000 a month on subscription fees ALONE. Never mind the toys,cards,cups,and all other WoW Stuff they sell. Imagine if WoW hit the consoles!

Barf#1

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> that is pretty sad for the rest of the MMO's. I'm beginning to worry for the next gen. I've entered a stage of my life where I don't desire a really hardcore MMO so the casual trend suits me ok, but I do love me some random hardcore PvP action that is lacking from WoW these days.

Jaybosan

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> I hope LOTRO survives.... They deserve it at least..

K-Squad! (Badass Edition)

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> I cant see anything, these charts are too small. :-(

brent_w

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> Wow if you look at the line graph, you can see that WoW's subscription base has NEVER EVAR gone below the previous month, they have been steadily increasing SINCE CREATION...

Katorok

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> How about WoW v. non-subscription MMOGs because subscriptions sux.

dadeisvenm

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> FFXI FTW! :D

Teiris2355

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> The only MMO I ever played, Matrix Online, isn't even on there.

...nor should it be. What a waste.

BuckTwenty

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> @Aethyr: ...and it's not a typical MMORPG, but MMO&RPG.

justhesh

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> I knew WoW was big, but i never figured it was that huge.

IDontC

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> I really does seem like WoW cannibalized and grew it's market simultaneousness.

okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under)

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> Hey shut up! SWG was WAY more fun than WoW ever was... before the NGE crap killed the game...

*sob*

combatmedic77

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> I hope blizzard is enjyoing their large piece of pie, and soon EA Mythic will be enjoying a nice big slice.

Necrotoxin

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> I love statistics like these.

Xander

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> All right FFXI! #5!

mpmaley

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> world of WHY

protoman

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> "it didn't World of Warcraft".....?!?! I think something is missing! Anyways, looks like WoW is doing quite well, lol. Somebody needs to shop a DS-like money making .gif for Blizzard, lol.

KillerAJD

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> @NeoAkira: I'm thinking this is aiming more at the worldwide subscriber numbers, and doesn't tabulate in things that might be F2P or entirely exclusive to regions. Though I'm not sure why they wouldn't be included in the Asian market shares unless there are just no subscription type models there that are hugely popular.

Ampillion, Dayman. Fighter of the Nightman.

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> I still think that Blitz 1941 was the best MMO game out there. The grinding was fun because it was at least skill-based.

Bring back Blitz 1941. Free and good. Where did it go?!

pylon_trooper

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> @NeoAkira: I think you're right. the Guild Wars 'buy the disc then play til we shut down our servers' model doesn't seem to apply to these charts. the site seems to be tabulating how much these monsters pull in via subscriptons.

So Guild Wars and Diablo don't count.
@Aethyr: See above.

ggodo

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> City of Heroes didn't even make the list, that just makes me sad.

Kyoya

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> click the link to the website, it shows the graphs much bigger.

dirkxxdiggler

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> @Guild Wars comments: Notice the 'subscription' in the chart titles.

Mit

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> @Aethyr: That's what I would guess as well. If they are just tracking subscriptions rather than game purchases Guild Wars wouldn't have any numbers. It's still a good selling game however, certainly no WoW though.

perrinbar

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> Wow...

ffmusicdj

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> @NeoAkira: I don't think so. There's nothing about Maple Story on any chart.

Vyse24

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> I've never even heard of Dofus before...

Morberis

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> Wow. These numbers officially show that WoW isnt going anywhere. For a long time.

Bisu

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> No love for Guild Wars?

Ashurahori

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> I have a sudden hankering for pie.

MeanMF

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> Does this even count all those Korean MMO's that are super popular in korea?

NeoAkira

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> @Sparx88: I guess because it's not subscription based...?

Aethyr

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> I can't read the text on those charts. Too small.

Sollus

]]> <![CDATA[How World of Warcraft's 10 Million Subscribers Stack Up To The Rest]]> That sucks, Guild Wars doesn't even have its own slot

Sparx

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