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Gore Verbinski Kicks Off DICE With Peppy, Often Clueless Keynote

Babylonian — Fri, 09 May 2008 15:31:44 MDT

I didn't see any evidence in that article of any cluelessness on his part. Will someone point it out to me?

Babylonian

Gore Verbinski Kicks Off DICE With Peppy, Often Clueless Keynote

Aimless — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:02:45 MST

I liked his ideas.

Aimless

Gore Verbinski Kicks Off DICE With Peppy, Often Clueless Keynote

phinehas — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:31:44 MST

@Cwolf267: Ask a ninja?

phinehas

Gore Verbinski Kicks Off DICE With Peppy, Often Clueless Keynote

hansamurai — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:09:22 MST

@Cwolf267: Oh, and if you're going to constantly correct people like a cockhead, at least know what you're talking about:

"And I'll tell you this much, it could have used a lot more Gore, and a lot less Verbinski. Which I think is Russian for bad dialogue."

[www.askaninja.com]

2:47 in

hansamurai

Gore Verbinski Kicks Off DICE With Peppy, Often Clueless Keynote

hansamurai — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:02:54 MST

@phinehas: Best review of a crappy movie ever.

hansamurai

Gore Verbinski Kicks Off DICE With Peppy, Often Clueless Keynote

comedy — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 13:57:00 MST

amazing, no body has ever said what he's said... cor it's like he's a visionary who has seen the future!
god, how derivative, yes we all know the situation with publishers etc but let me tell you - things are changing in some areas
large publishers with internal dev teams are doing this stuff already, the devs have way more creative freedom - look at criterion/EA...
complaining about this stuff was the fashion back in 2004. look at gamecock, they've been going for a good few years, and are coming up with some interesting titles.
frankly i agree with the early posters, why can't a large symposium like this employ someone who's in touch with games?!

comedy

Gore Verbinski Kicks Off DICE With Peppy, Often Clueless Keynote

SolInvictus — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 11:28:14 MST

I totally agree with the guy.

The problem with a lot of franchise owners is that they tend to treat games as little more than merchandise rather than standalone products.

It'd be nice if the industry approached games the same way Marc Ecko did with Getting Up: Contents Under Pressure. Instead of treating it like merchandise for his Ecko brand, he made it into a full fledged game that could stand alone without the backing of his brand.

SolInvictus

Gore Verbinski Kicks Off DICE With Peppy, Often Clueless Keynote

Mr.SithNinja — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 11:10:08 MST

@Cwolf267: if you wanna get nit picky about it is " bad dialogue " not " crappy dialogue " ;D

Mr.SithNinja

Gore Verbinski Kicks Off DICE With Peppy, Often Clueless Keynote

Cwolf267 — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 10:55:13 MST

@Mr. SiThNiNjA: If you guys are going to use the quote at least get it right.

"It needs more gore and less verbinski, which I believe is Russian for crappy dialogue."
-Ask a Ninja

Cwolf267

Gore Verbinski Kicks Off DICE With Peppy, Often Clueless Keynote

new_pornographer — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 10:53:36 MST

@Northernsky:
If he was in a band with Brett Guerwitz that automatically makes him 'awesome' in my eyes. I never knew that info, thanks for the heads up!

Anyone who doesn't know who Bad Religion are I strongly urge you to purchase ( or download ) the albums 'Suffer', 'Generator' and 'No Control' right now.

new_pornographer

Gore Verbinski Kicks Off DICE With Peppy, Often Clueless Keynote

Mr.SithNinja — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 10:36:18 MST

His movies need more Gore and less Verbinski...

Mr.SithNinja

Gore Verbinski Kicks Off DICE With Peppy, Often Clueless Keynote

Soleyu — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 09:38:28 MST

@WatershipDown:

I agree, and besides most of us here don't really know much of the nuts and bolts of game design, sure we have a general idea but in truth his opinions as an outsider are as valid as ours, besides any director who is capable of telling that the game of his movie is shit (ie telling the truth) I can back up, besides I agree with most of his points.

In the end what actually needs to be done is to find a way to make cool original games sustainable or less risky to back up. The sad thing is games like Zak and Wiki beign awesome do not sell as well as they should because there is a lack of marketing and well on the players side its kinda of hard to back up a game which we do not know about, especially one which you can have no opinion of gameplay-wise, since its so original.

Although this may sound silly (and to a point I kinda hate myself for saying this) what we need is some kinde of american idol for videogames where gamers can participate with demos or prototypes, that would at least secure the publishers that the game will sell, and give an oportunity to the "looser" games to be known and perhaps get taken by other publishers. Dunno just an idea that came to mind.

Soleyu

Gore Verbinski Kicks Off DICE With Peppy, Often Clueless Keynote

ahmeng — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 09:17:36 MST

Show me the money!!!!

ahmeng

Gore Verbinski Kicks Off DICE With Peppy, Often Clueless Keynote

Northernsky — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 08:26:49 MST

A bit of Trivia for you... Gore Verbinksi was in a band called The Daredevils with Brett Gurewitz after he left Bad Religion, and John Freese, who's been with The Vandals and Perfect Circle... he's a good guy. I was surprised to see him kicking off DICE though...

Northernsky

Gore Verbinski Kicks Off DICE With Peppy, Often Clueless Keynote

NecronomiconUK — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 08:14:18 MST

I think giving the game to Eurocom to develop was the biggest mistake made...

NecronomiconUK

Gore Verbinski Kicks Off DICE With Peppy, Often Clueless Keynote

sunshine06 — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 08:13:52 MST

@WatershipDown: Amen

sunshine06

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Cwolf267 — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 08:11:36 MST

@phinehas: If you're going to steal a quote from Ask a Ninja, at least get it right.

Cwolf267

Gore Verbinski Kicks Off DICE With Peppy, Often Clueless Keynote

SPni — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 07:42:04 MST

That's a fairly good speech. Hopefully Hollywood will start seeing games as less like merchandise and a proper medium to compliment the movies.

Enter The Matrix was almost there. Despite it's flaws it was integral to the matrix mythology. We need more games like that and less of the shovelware crap that comes out with every big budget release.

SPni

Gore Verbinski Kicks Off DICE With Peppy, Often Clueless Keynote

WatershipDown — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 07:28:18 MST

He's speaking in broad terms from an outsider looking in to the game industry and he pointed out what are the main flaws that keep games from being fresh and creative, rather than promotional sidebars.

And you're all roasting him, even though he's right.

WatershipDown

Gore Verbinski Kicks Off DICE With Peppy, Often Clueless Keynote

Tei — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 07:25:56 MST

Of course, games are not merchandise. Thats like calling 300 the movie "merchandise of the 300 comic".

Tei

Gore Verbinski Kicks Off DICE With Peppy, Often Clueless Keynote

new_pornographer — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 07:23:20 MST

@AndrewDB:

Why's that? Considering the budget, expectations and sheer pressure from 'the suits' for the POTC sequels I think Verbinski is a credible film director.

new_pornographer

Gore Verbinski Kicks Off DICE With Peppy, Often Clueless Keynote

GMC — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 07:14:13 MST

"The director blamed publishers for "responding to data and basing creative decisions on existing formulas"

woah - stop right there. Did you hear yourself? Did you not get a blinding headache when you uttered this feeling? A Pirates 2 & 3 type headache.

""You must make execs uncomfortable, whether they know it or not, and believe me, the good ones do"-to make their work "diverge from the path.""

Diverge from the path of nasty rehashed blockbusters, he says.

GMC

Gore Verbinski Kicks Off DICE With Peppy, Often Clueless Keynote

phinehas — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 07:10:31 MST

Sounds like the opening speech could've used a lot more Gore, and a lot less Verbinski.

phinehas

Gore Verbinski Kicks Off DICE With Peppy, Often Clueless Keynote

Mohrdikai — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 07:09:15 MST

@AndrewDB: Not the web game, Gore Verbinski directed the Pirates of the Caribbean movies.

Mohrdikai

Gore Verbinski Kicks Off DICE With Peppy, Often Clueless Keynote

JakeDunn — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 07:06:31 MST

"Games are not merchandise."

Hear hear

It's this approach that makes me doubt any game based on a movie until I see the review.

JakeDunn

Gore Verbinski Kicks Off DICE With Peppy, Often Clueless Keynote

Horsefly — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 07:02:53 MST

The guy's heart is in the right place, so what if he's inexperienced? I approve of this man. Better him than some crusty old dev who's long since had his spirit crushed.

Horsefly

Gore Verbinski Kicks Off DICE With Peppy, Often Clueless Keynote

HorseJacked — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 07:02:39 MST

Eh... until he shows his salt in the game world it is. Although, it seemed as though he tried to get in with the development...

HorseJacked

Gore Verbinski Kicks Off DICE With Peppy, Often Clueless Keynote

AndrewDB — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 07:00:43 MST

@HorseJacked: That's even worse!

AndrewDB

Gore Verbinski Kicks Off DICE With Peppy, Often Clueless Keynote

t0nz0r — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 06:58:59 MST

At least he played Bioshock.

t0nz0r

Gore Verbinski Kicks Off DICE With Peppy, Often Clueless Keynote

HorseJacked — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 06:58:11 MST

Director of the movies...

HorseJacked

Gore Verbinski Kicks Off DICE With Peppy, Often Clueless Keynote

Irenicus-the one and only — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 06:56:07 MST

Seems like a good keyonote. I hope Disney takes notice, I agree with most that was said.

Irenicus-the one and only

Gore Verbinski Kicks Off DICE With Peppy, Often Clueless Keynote

AndrewDB — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 06:50:34 MST

Pirates of the Caribbean.. the Disney web game helmsman did the DICE opening speech?

What's next?

George Broussard giving a speech about how to make sure your games are done and delivered on time?

AndrewDB

Gore Verbinski Kicks Off DICE With Peppy, Often Clueless Keynote

mr_dimsum — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 06:48:06 MST

I don't understand why DICE and all these events bring upon people who are almost clueless about game development into the picture.. I am sure, somewhere out there.. There is a credible director/actor/producer of some sort whom has excellent knowledge of the gaming industry and is well cultivated in the arts!

Someone, please stand up!

+1 for his big thinking though! Inspirational..

mr_dimsum