headcase88

Wookiee1

thaswizz

P-Flute

That and they hired a bunch of no talents out of their Unreal community for making decent FPS maps. They were decent maps but making a shooter map for online play doesn't mean you know anything about making a whole game let alone any other game.

frankstallone

Streeks1984

UnnDunn

The game is a just a turn style in terms of level design. Kick down a door, locust hole appears, shoot some guys, press Y to look at something boring, pick a path, repeat.

Co-op saved it a little, but it's still boring in the end.

Epic shouldn't quit shooters, because they're mediocre at best, and any other genre would be a disaster.

jynxycat

and then ignored all the fan feedback based on the demo, and said, 'what the hell, let's just release it!'.

jynxycat

Oh, but it had the chainsaw bayonet, so I guess it was hugely innovative.

seafisch

rawg

Atheist Jew

@Norellicus: I wasn't trying to say that either UT3 or Gears don't look great. Because, obviously, they do. The drab color scheme of Gears fits more with the semi-post-apocalyptic setting of the game, but the problem is that the drab colors extended to every location across the game. It's like they had a permanent brown overwash filter across the entirety of the game. Certain areas, like Fenix's father's estate and the Imulsion caves stood out from the rest, but both still have the brown filtering. The environents, while gorgeous, would have been even moreso had Epic brought out the inherent color of the various locales. UT3 suffers as well.

Atheist Jew

artistpavel

Norellicus

CenatorC

I believe that UT3 wasn't marketed the proper way and CoD4 and the Orange Box were simply too strong. The only thing that could turn the tide would be a very good mod... we'll see.

Garo

They want to send some more of that over our way? Fine by me.

KilgoreTrout__XL

geekgrrl

cyberdemon23

zenpoet

y2julio

Sometimes, the things that people ask for, makes me wonder if we ever did invent that wheel.

Malmer

From what I can tell the majority of UT fans disagree with you both. Of course, from this particular sampling, I'm in the minority. :(

The way I see it, if more old-school UT fans were happy with UT3's gameplay, they'd be playing it. Instead, UT3's active player population is dismally low, which means something is definitely wrong.

Atheist Jew

Bentles

GimmeCat

Caduceus

Billkwando

@Zim:
Try a harder mode...

Garo

Finish games before releasing them? might be nice.

edhe (xbl)

EDGE

faultymoose

If you start a thread on the Epic forums about it, it'll get deleted immediately. So I'll say it here:

Epic! You need anticheat! Ok? ANTI-CHEAT. There is none and it shows.

You also need advertising so we have some actual people in the servers. I logged on at lunch today and not a single person in Australia was playing.

elevenoverzero

Like the computer having some good A.I. would be nice. It doesn't make a fire fight very exciting when if you manage to sneak around the side the enemy will often stand completly still trying to hide from your original position while you pound him with bullets.

Maybe add a good story, good characters, team mates that don't actively hinder your progress (yes Dom I was shooting there, thanks for constantly walking in the way). Yea once they fix that then they can start looking at other genres >.>

Zim

Gameplay wise, the game is too fast. Every player needs to have absolutely lightning quick reflexes to be any good at the game, and even then, most kills are attributed to luck. I also hate to bring this up, but the game is pretty much brown and gray. That's not the engine, those are the levels Epic designed. Every level has a specific color to it, except for the Asian-architecture maps, and that color essentially masks the absolutely gorgeous visuals with a drab overcoat of brown, gray, or blue. Gears of War suffered from this exact same problem. You'd think Epic would have learned by now.

The weapons are relatively imbalanced as well. The sniper rifle is practically useless what with the speed most players are moving at. The pistol generally gets more kills than the rocket launcher.

There are other problems with the vehicles as well, etc etc etc.

There's also the tiny problem that nobody is actually playing the PC version. UT2K4 had generally at any one time a couple hundred games. I think UT3, at this moment, as about 10 or so, the majority of which are populated almost entirely with bots.

I have the game installed, but I don't actually play it. After the demo was released I knew it wouldn't be a game I'd enjoy. I bought it for the Unreal 3 Engine and development package. Hopefully some loyal Unreal fans will mod the game to make it more like UT2K4, although I doubt a user-made mod will convince many people to come back to the game. Team Fortress 2, CoD4 and Halo 3 unfortunately have a tight grip on the balls of the multiplayer community.

Atheist Jew

Juha Kangas

Nissan288

Garo

Garo

Para

Collapse The Control

kryo

Or more like ask him why he decided to change the formula a bit. D:

Witzbold