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Super Smash Bros. Brawl Bug Confirmed?

Einlander — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 13:17:03 MST

hmm seem thhat i was wrog and that i must apologize, sorry

Einlander

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dynendal — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 11:46:47 MST

@wild_world_girl: I've worked in QA. Part of QA's job is to notify the development team of the real importance of some bugs through clear and concise description. It sounds like there was an error in transmission here.

dynendal

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Backward_Z — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 09:32:57 MST

The bug doesn't AFFECT the game.

Aren't there editors here?

Backward_Z

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scarshapedstar — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 09:07:03 MST

So to recap. The bug doesn't stop the game from loading. It displays a screen telling you to update your Wii, and it's right.

Clearly, Nintendo has lost its tough. Hindenberg, Titanic, etc.

scarshapedstar

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bugashi — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 07:56:42 MST

As far as I'm concerned, this isn't a bug. IMO, it's the same as the firmware check/update thing that happens when you first run MP3:C and U R MR GAY (hey, the way Mario sounds and how every game ends, he is Mr Gay). Don't know for sure if the update was available on those disks, but it would help those without broadband net access.

However, if the problem lays within the way it checks the firmware, or in the launch of the firmware update application, then it could very well be a programing error... a.k.a. a bug.

bugashi

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Foxstar Sixtail — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 06:17:08 MST

@einlander: Banhammer, launched.

Foxstar Sixtail

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Laser_iCE — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 06:03:23 MST

As far as I'm concerned, 99% of people who buy this game will have bought Super Mario Galaxy which updated the firmware anyway.

Laser_iCE

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Jaiden — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 05:16:48 MST

"the error message occurs when the game is first started up on consoles that haven't been updated since last summer."

Sometimes I wonder why... People get so hyped up! OBVIOUSLY your going to get an error if you don't update! It even said it in the Super Mario Galaxy Manual: "Please note that when first loading the Game Disk into the Wii console, the Wii will check if you have the latest system menu.."

So to solve the issue? SYSTEM UPDATE.

Jaiden

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quen — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 04:38:24 MST

One thing you can bet, Nintendo would've never shipped Wii Fit with a bug. No way in hell.

I'm pretty certain they actually did ship it with a bug... all software ships with bugs. Just the way it works.

I agree they probably didn't ship it with a serious known bug - but I'd also be willing to bet this SSBB bug isn't really *that* critical (alarming for users who hit it, yes, but not fatal and how many people haven't got the newer firmware by now)... and also that it wasn't known much before shipping. (Wonder if they didn't have a test lab of Wiis with every firmware version? You'd have thought they did...)

quen

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Ra is on That 70s Show — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 03:31:44 MST

Moms everywhere will freak at this kind of bug.

Ra is on That 70s Show

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jmb8504 — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 03:12:02 MST

@EnigmaNemesis:
Ok, I laughed way to hard at that.

jmb8504

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txgb324 — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 02:07:40 MST

@einlander: Are you high? Or just trolling? There have been a number of firmware upgrades for the Wii, available as downloads thru WiiConnect24 or included on discs that require them.

txgb324

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Einlander — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 00:48:21 MST

Welcome To the game Nintendo. So you finaly decided to actually use firmware updates eh? Seems like you have much to learn about firmware. The PS3 and 360 does it. Hell the psp does it, so why is it just now that your making people update? Also I hope that the game comes with the firmware update otherwise you are SOL if you dont have the internet.

Einlander

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VakeroRokero — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 00:44:52 MST

bug? sounds like a anti-piracy check, and many games carry the updates inside the disc so unless you are one of those "my wii has been gathering dust for a year" you are ok.

VakeroRokero

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D00mM4r1n3 — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 23:14:47 MST

This is not a bug with SSBB, it sounds like a bug with the older Wii firmware not knowing what to do with a game that requires the newest Wii firmware. If I read the article correctly, an update of the Wii should resolve the issue. I hope this "feature" (see what I did there) prevents modders from being able to play the game.

D00mM4r1n3

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Waka in Japan — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 23:06:59 MST

the guy in 2ch keeps updating once in a while, so far, captain falcon is not confirmed yet as an unlockable

Waka in Japan

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wild_world_girl — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 22:58:19 MST

@DYNENDAL

The buck always stops with the devs, no matter what's going on (or not going on) in QA.

wild_world_girl

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Mokai — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 22:54:03 MST

@zerbrechen: Yay for Marth. But I'll still be using Ness, anyway. >.>;

Mokai

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Mezodon — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 22:32:57 MST

Pretty lowsy that reading comments in a post about a bug give me the spoilers from the intro video post which I chose to skip.

Mezodon

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Lackshmana — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 22:29:03 MST

@dynendal:

Why would you blame their QA?

Do you know for a fact that they didn't find this issue?

Games ship with Showstopper bugs that were found and reported by QA all the time.

Also, if the game doesn't play correctly out of the box, then yes it IS a bug. From what I understand you get an error message, NOT an update message that then leads you to an update. And if that is the case, then it is a bug.

Lackshmana

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Torgen got his apology faceplate but not his fixed GH3 disc — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 22:17:44 MST

@Brian Ashcraft: Touché.

Torgen got his apology faceplate but not his fixed GH3 disc

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Rhonlore — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 22:17:18 MST

Guys.. it's a firmware update. NOT a bug. At least I'm convinced it is. I recall MP3:C having me install new firmware as well.

Rhonlore

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Brian Ashcraft — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 22:09:21 MST

@Torgen thinks AAA has lost all meaning:
I like how you think I have an image of the back.

Brian Ashcraft

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Torgen got his apology faceplate but not his fixed GH3 disc — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 22:08:17 MST

I like how you posted an image that says, "instructions to solve this problem are on the back," and don't post the image of the back.

Torgen got his apology faceplate but not his fixed GH3 disc

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TalKeaton — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 22:04:39 MST

@Aiwokote: It wasn't anything unexpected.

TalKeaton

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muu — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 22:00:44 MST

@Janaff: Sounds like it from what I've read about this. Makes you wonder why they can't get the same bug squashed though, even if it's something that can only happen once during the life of your console.

muu

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Aiwokote — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:54:03 MST

OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Smash related nes. Character leak!!! And a big one!!!!!

SPOILERS Watch out!!!

[brawlcentral.com]

Aiwokote

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Roflcopter_Down: Wants you to follow HIM! — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:48:17 MST

Two more days... two more days...

Roflcopter_Down: Wants you to follow HIM!

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izarate — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:45:29 MST

If I got my facts straight the problem is that some feature of SSBB require functionality that came in a Wii firmware upgrade some time ago. The error here is that the game shipped without the firmware upgrade included in the disc to apply it automatically once you load the game the first time. I don't think that it's an actual bug in the game code.

izarate

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altgod — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:40:15 MST

@EnigmaNemesis:
And some will brutally fuck you in the ass after 40 hours of gameplay (thank you Twilight Princess).

altgod

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Charlie303 — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:36:16 MST

I found it strange not to see in Luigi in the intro,well,i guess it will be an unlockable character for the 3rd time

Charlie303

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guy_jin — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:35:34 MST

@Gloibin: [www.wiiwii.tv]

Basically, in the Euro version, if you don't pick up a key a character points you towards, the game freezes.

guy_jin

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Stormrider — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:32:32 MST

If it doesn't affect the gameplay in any way, who really cares? Either way, I'm sure it'll be fixed by by the North American release.

Stormrider

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Charlie303 — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:30:12 MST

@zerbrechen: OMFG! JESUSCHRIST.

Marth,confirmed. 1:47

Thank you very much.

Charlie303

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Rocci1212 — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:26:10 MST

I love the unnecessary but completely justified hating of Wii Fit in this post.

Rocci1212

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dynendal — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:24:17 MST

Honestly? I wouldn't blame the devs, I'd blame their QA.

But then a bug is just a bug and for a game the size that SSBB this is totally understandable.

dynendal

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jaymac — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:21:45 MST

The intro is pretty cool. Unlike the previous games, it actually shows relation and teamwork between the various characters.

jaymac

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Psychtaygar — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:20:32 MST

It sounds like it only says it once when you update your system, and then it doesn't happen again. Which isn't really that bad. Though, I agree that people will freak out. Hopefully it wont happen in the US.

Psychtaygar

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TOCATL — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:20:23 MST

@metadae: Maybe ASH is like many other ssb core fans that are angry because the game had many delays...

TOCATL

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Sabre_Justice: Okay, no more long name. — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:17:25 MST

I've found a bug in Corruption, where Dark Samus freezes and refuses to die. Had to commit suicide to finish the fight.

They'd better damn have this fixed by release. Thursday? Man... EUROPEAN RELEASE DATE YOU STUPID FUCKS AT NINTENDO ARGH$*@#R@#RWY#*$HF^W#*$%FGW*%FW*$%FYW*%YHNWF*(#%^GH*(W&%*(#&$Y%GJ*(W#%$G

Sabre_Justice: Okay, no more long name.

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smitty1123 — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:17:22 MST

Meh. As much as I hate it, software updates on consoles are slowly becoming the rule rather than the exception.

smitty1123

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darthmole12 — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:17:14 MST

@zerbrechen: Nice!

WTB Ganondorf though :(

darthmole12

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sakuma_san — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:16:37 MST

Since this is still a rumour, furthur speculation seems to imply that this is a bug that happens with all Wii games when a Wii System Upgrade is required and it fails. So it's not the game, as much as the system itself running into problems.

sakuma_san

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Zerbrecher — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:14:31 MST

@Jaymac: It's starts with "G" and rhymes with "amefaqs"... Please, don't force me to say anymore, shame coarses through my veins...

Zerbrecher

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jaymac — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:13:43 MST

@zerbrechen: Eh, nevermind about the video, it was in the previous Kotaku post. I swear, that wasn't there earlier, haha.

jaymac

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onidavin — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:13:19 MST

Honestly, that's kind of pathetic given how long this game was in development. Perhaps it was a bug in the actual "printing" of the game, where some shitty corrupted snag got in?

onidavin

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Shteve — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:12:10 MST

@zerbrechen:

Wow thanks for the video ! Ness and Marth are in !

Shteve

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jaymac — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:11:30 MST

@ZeroTheFool: Yeah, after delaying it so many times, you'd expect the game to be in prestine condition. Hm, maybe this is why the US got a longer delay then Japan, to fix it.

@zerbrechen: NICE! How'd you hear about this video? Randomly searched it out of curiosity?

jaymac

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Janaff — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:11:01 MST

I was reading about this earlier, and I don't think its a bug in the game, just a warning/help message for the firmware update that comes with it. (in case it doesn't work or something) The same thing came with Super Mario Galaxy.

Janaff

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Konatsu — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:09:46 MST

There was a bug in Mario Galaxy... You had to ground-pound it three times to defeat it and get the star.

Not that kind of bug? Oops.

Konatsu

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Zerozaki Ishiki — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:09:24 MST

The sign says you need to update the system before you can play it, but the bug occurs the first time you try to play. It will not occur a second time if you follow the instructions below...which are cut off the image above. Helpful!

Zerozaki Ishiki

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jaymac — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:09:14 MST

New trend? First Microsoft going through with the hardware defective 360's at launch, now this?

jaymac

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metadae — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:07:27 MST

Do I detect a hint of bitterness in this post?

metadae

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Gloibin — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:07:08 MST

Just out of curiosity, and to justify my avatar, what was the bug in Paper Mario?

Gloibin

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Medicine Seller [ZTF] — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:06:36 MST

Why is it being released? Because they where afraid fans would raid the development center if another delay was announced. The one-month delay for the US version is starting to make more sense.

Medicine Seller [ZTF]

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Zerbrecher — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:05:59 MST

Hmm, I heard that it was just something to do with a system update, but if it isn't... Well, that sucks.

Oh, and [www.youtube.com]

Zerbrecher

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EnigmaNemesis — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:04:30 MST

Some bugs are squishy and some are crunchy!

EnigmaNemesis