kw4k

Wooo! Meandered right off on that one! Back to Brawl.

*lol* @ Does this mean Zelda is gonna get stabbed by MetaKnight in front of Link?

I don't know about that, but I definitely felt a little something when Princess Zelda got zapped into a trophy by Wario. I guess that's as close to stabbing / death as we're gonna get. Anything more violent than that and the game will get AO'd and poor old me in Europe probably won't get to play it.

Random J

pikachumariachi

kurokotetsu

helium-neide

Knukleur

Haniko

STARSBarry

GuardianEarth128

pikachumariachi

Thanks for reporting every detail about it kotaku, its awesome. i'm not all crazy rabid fanboy over the series but i do like it and its great ;)

Zaos

As for possible speculation of certain characters from a certain game showing up... please god no. Let that franchise DIE already.

FrigidAir44

Also, even though fighting games are played for gameplay like puzzle games, in no way are they comparible in terms of story potential. L-block doesn't nearly open room for personality, history and charm like a Terry Bogard or Morrigan Aensland. The moment you create a anthropomorphic character, with anthropomorphic personality, only laziness is stopping you from taking the next step in terms of background. I don't want a 30 hour RPG-like fighter, just one that isn't a momentary wait for an upgrade. Every fighter is about fighting, but once the sequel comes out; What use is playing a downgraded version? There should always be something there to make me justify my purchase and comeback other than nostalgia. This is my main problem with alot of fighters.

I honestly don't mind not having story to my fighters, but I don't want to buy "Street Brawler: Alpha, Turbo, Super, #Reload, Accent, Ultimate 2" because of new characters, better graphics and tweaked gameplay. A game should have a reason to last, not be a temporary amusement because developers know they can make more money without the extra work.

In conclusion, gameplay is fine alone (SF2, SF 3 and KOF prove this), but once your on game five in a series, what reason is there for not giving your characters life by adding one extra mode next to Arcade mode and Vs. mode? Sakurai has the right idea, and is showing we're getting a new game that is it's own, not just an upgrade. Sorry for the length, but as a fan, I can't simply say fighters don't deserve to evolve.

KeroseneClimax

Ashurahori

Zenith

Treize

Spot on.

Zero_

Angryrider

For competitive gamers who care solely about the quality of gameplay thats fine, what about everyone else?

KeroseneClimax

Ashurahori

Should shooting games just be about you running around shooting things with no differentiation between another shooting game? So why should fighting games just be about fighting things? Creativity doesn't have to end with gameplay, even if the storyline isn't going to win a Pulitzer or Akutagawa Prize.

In short, I disagree. Story should never usurp gameplay (we read books for a reason), but there is no reason it shouldn't be there at all or not on par with the gameplay. Exclusion of story is fine, but why waste the potential of such a strong cast colliding together?

KeroseneClimax

Wolfkin

Ashurahori

...

So, what games realllllly needed story? Mario? Mario Kart? Not really. A lot of Nintendo's games are based solely on the gameplay, story isn't there to push the player forward in most of their games, it is merely the tool that starts the gameplay moving. Good gameplay will always make a decent or fun game, even if story is lacking. Terrible gameplay, however, can't make anything from Lord of the Rings to War and Peace to Shakespearian storytelling into even a playable one.

And for someone who 'doesn't get why anyone really gets excited for SSBB', you also don't seem to get the fact that there's a lot more of a single-player side-scrolling beat-em-up element in this title. It's not like most other fighting games, where single player is the exact same as multiplayer, except one is AI controlled Ken, and the other is human controlled Ken. Having a story behind that part of the game? Trying to tie some of it all together? Hey, go for it.

Again, though, the gameplay is why people will buy the game, not the storyline. If the story is interesting? Hey, all the better. If it's just weird (which I'm sure it will be), it'll merely be another Mario or Katamari-type game, where the story takes a backseat to the game play.

Ampillion, Dayman. Fighter of the Nightman.

Dimipapa

ca$h

Having more or less rolled my eyes at the usual internet stupidity, however... I'd of preferred the non-FF7 guy, but, eh. I never buy these games for the story anyway. I actually hear you can have this thing called 'fun' with gaming.

Ampillion, Dayman. Fighter of the Nightman.

Sabre_Justice: Okay, no more long name.

ca$h

munkah

Well, thats like believing a starving man isn't going to eat a table of food after two weeks without eating. Predictable.

Anywho, If Nintendo feels they need some story why not hire Masato Kato if he's not busy. His writing feels more suitable for brawl, and less controversial.

KeroseneClimax

The fact that Sakurai asked an expert to help write the storyline shows he actually cares about it. Indeed, the gameplay will be the most important part, but we'll be enjoying story elements between all our favorite Nintendo characters for the first time.

Infil

Erwin

TheMysteriousStranger

asianmacker

blackadvent

OK, Final Fantasy has had some great storytelling moments, but I always felt that it should have been more polished and better explained - also, after the great FFX, it seems that the guy's just lost the plot and no one in the multimillion dollar cutscene department noticed.

mcderek3000

Volcan

haha yah I saw the comic in EGM, it was priceless.

NeoAkira

Mario as the sexually abiguous young kid out to prove himself, but with a troubled past. Peach as the spunky love interest. Link as the dashing and courageous knight, and of course, Captain Falcon as the lovable rouge.

I could have saved Nintedo a lot of money. And written a better story than this hack. It's all the same, every time...

altgod

FP Shindokie

@Krytha: Cross between Lord of the Flies and LOST?

I guess FFVII's storyline is probably good, though it's been done to death by fans so my impression isn't good. Eh, it's friggin' Brawl, I'm surprised they put a story at all.

Sabre_Justice: Okay, no more long name.

DarkNight_DS

Because of that, I can't believe any reviews for nintendo games ever subtract them points for leaving out voice acting. After Mario Sunshine, they're doing us a favour by not voicing these games, people!

dowingba

MikeTheSpike

No, no ,no you got it all wrong, both Peach and Zelda will get the sword in the back, in fact one sword through both of them, and it'll be tingle who does it!

Avinash_Tyagi

I hope there's voice acting. It would be SO nice to have voice acting in a Nintendo game for once.
...well, barring the usual characters not talking.
......which is, like...all of them.

MR. FAP☆FAP!

Zelda dies after Metaknight stabs her through the back with his sword.

Bet you didn't expect that.

Zen Grenadier

No, I'm not Japanese.

And yes, I was just kidding. About both statements. Including the Spielberg part.

blacksamurai87

MaiAri

Foxstar Sixtail

Erwin

tme2nsb

Which reminds me--forget the Subspace Emissary, the latest issue of EGM had a far better story idea for Brawl. Who here's seen the end-of-issue comic?

Gunhaver

cybereality

Oh boy, this should be interesting.

tim333

And just to set the record straight, it was co-written. The FF7 writer didn't do everything himself. Sakurai even mentioned that he rejected his other script because it didn't fit his vision.

Aiwokote

ryohazuki

The Amazing Exploding-Man

TOCATL

FP Shindokie

the-red-terror

Mario: [...]
Cloud: [...]

Pullupachair

Sheetman

Sinfjotle

karmaghost

BPMΣ

evilralphwiggum

Yes I know that fact is intentional

No it doesn't make them any less painful to read

DeLoRtEd1

Dark Link stabs Peach in the back.
Peach: OOoooh Mama mia...

Silence.

Mario breaks the silence: Thank you so much for to playing my game.

It'll be classic, just watch :)

devmas

slacker164

I hope you all know that this un-arguably means the delay is because Nintendo is putting Cloud into the game. He's got as much personality as Mario, right?

Fitz Rhapsody

DeLoRtEd1

I believe that even with this unsettling news, it will deliver a good game.

Foxstar Sixtail

KM91

DaiMacculate

what a waste of paper for such a talented person

7th_Ronin

Ganon comes down from above and pierces Zelda with his blade.

You heard it hear first.

Saint Anima

Sailorcancer

themunk

Suzaku

@Abno: xD Now, replace Mario with Pikachu, Pikachu: Pika? Pika pika pika? xD

Hades

FP Shindokie

Huxle

hrabbit

Krytha

Mario: It's me! Marrrrio!

Snake: Listen to me. We're all born with an expiration date. No one lasts forever. Life is nothing but a grace period - for turning our genetic material into the next generation. The data of life is transferred from parent to child. That's how it works. But we have no heirs, no legacy. Cloned from our father, with the ability to reproduce conveniently engineered out. What is our legacy if we cannot pass the torch? Proof of our existence - a mark of some sort. When the torch is passed on from parent to child... it extends beyond DNA; information is imparted as well. All I want is to be remembered. By other people, by history.

Mario:......It's me. Marrrrrio!

Abno

And I would have bought it.

DonWii

Lemming To The Sea

@Maldron: Agreed. I think that's still the premise. Now it's just more like that child is making them fight some imaginary evil together, not unlike what I did with my old action figures. Still pretty cool.

Sheetman

jive238

So... if there is another Smash, he probably won't be working on it.

DonWii

J-Fro

Michael McWhertor

This remains the aspect of nintendo games that cannot draw me in, and sorely disappoints me. To me, story is just as important as the gameplay - I will play a game with a good story and horrible gameplay just for the good story. The opposite is also true. But to forgo one for the other just seems idiotic when you can have the best of both worlds.

Also, Nojima's resume reads like the president of a doujinshi club. I really don't enjoy his work, nor can I respect him at all. The very fact that he managed to get the characters onto a bus without snake and donkey kong making out is enough of a miracle to me.

masterisosceles

daibondo

WHAT?!?!? This is the first I've heard of such terrible news! Is he joking? He has to be, right? Or perhaps a translation error?

UltimatePancakeSensation

detraya

Truepatriot

There was nothing wrong with that premise. -.-

Maldron

Lemming To The Sea

dowingba

NathanX

Krellie

BassForever

FP Shindokie