Archcruxis

I saw more sex in 300, Underworld 2, and Matrix Reloaded. And I saw plenty of parents taking their children to see those films. I can't wait for humanity to destroy itself if people like this are the ones that will always remain in charge.

Armagaiden

harryhardcorehoedown

TOWER_JUNKIE

ignorance and people talking out of their ass does not make good t.v. it just makes people look like a bunch of clueless dumbasses.

quickfire1717

adam2482

tinytom999

superbeast1370

After over a decade in radio, and despite her obvious fame and fortune, Cooper and her husband try to live a normal stable life in a tiny one-room apartment with the cunning use of mirrors. Now freeing herself from the shackles of higher learning, and armed with a master's degree and an unusual amount of knowledge about dogs, Cooper can be there for all of her listeners.

Cooper Lawrence. Radio Host. Chocoholic. Shoe Warrior."
-From her website

... And she's talking about a video game that she's never played, citing irrelevant studies/"facts" that have no application to the game or issues, and being a domineering bitch; all on a network that refuses to cover any real news(like most cable news), or issues that don't favor their interests. Excellent!

As far as the study that she mentioned (how 13 year old boys can't tell a game from reality), I want to know what boys the University of Maryland studied! There's obviously something wrong with those kids.

Anyway, this bitch should stick to talking about shoes. And the panel should just be left to ruining their kids, or playing their Ataris (hahahaha, that woman looked as though she's never touched a video game in her life, and the upgrades in games are due to upgrades in technology/player interest. Holy shit, sometimes Fox does give ya a gem).

jesuisemilie

swfantoby03

swfantoby03

djpod

Mr. Mastodon Farm

Kaos_

DarthTrepid

Tyler Menezes

[www.cooperlawrence.com]

GuardianEarth128

-and to that dumbfuck who wrote that book.... Jesus christ I wouldnt want to be her kid.

dcdeveloperx

KeFkA666

[www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com]

first before they fully deal with the Mass Effect one.

Well a controversy or 2 a week increases Ratings no?

Think Cooper Lawrence might not have totally deserved the gamer backlash though - I have a feeling she only knew anything about the game from what the Fox news network told her, and I'm betting she just took it as the truth (i.e. Mass Effect is just about Sex and Violence aimed at kids), and was just arguing about the general Sex/Violence in gaming thing. Or she's just utterly ignorant and other expletives to not have done research first about the game from other sources before coming on for her 3 minutes of free publicity for her book. Meh I'm either way on this, she genuinely could have just been asked on to talk about sex and violence in games, not specifically Mass Effect.

Now Fox News network though, utterly deserve whatever backlash they get for this total misrepresentation. If they didn't know their information was wrong, then they are incompetent idiots, if they did know their information was wrong then they've again exposed themsevles as a lying manipulative @"£$"@.

charsuipau

megaman45

masonbrit

Bentles

Bentles

what a FUCKING A JOKE

i don't really care what they say because the only people that watch that self-righteous network all should have their head examined for engulfing themselves in such outrageous and irresponsible propaganda

BigChiefSmokem

CaptainMurphy

CaptainMurphy

But lets ignore all that because were currently pointing the blame stick at video games and away from parents who want their precious snowflakes to never know what sexuality is until they are 30... ignore the fact that the damnedable baby boomers were doing or seeing the same things at the same age...

Gwydeon

kint

Epic Failure. Just WTF is Fox doing, oh wait, besides being dickless noobs, they're doing NOTHING. I mean, this is the worst report saying "Games Are Bad" I've seen because all of it is absolute bullshit! And the panelist....jesus, How can they sit with Fox's hands up their ass so far controlling them like a puppet?!

A bitch who doesn't play games saying the ESRB need their head examined is extremely laughable. And main blonde-headed dumbass saying grown men and women don't play games is laughable too!

It's like...They looked at the ESRB rating which says, "M for Blood, Language, Partial Nudity, Sexual Themes, Violence", saw that it had partial nudity and had field day with it!

Who cares if it's only for a minute, or that it's not full frontal, Say that it is full frontal nudity and maybe we'll get ratings! Yes folks, it's all about f$@#ing ratings!

Master Saji

And that bitch who said referred to atari and an adults only rating can blow me twice.

charman

...oh, wait, no, I was carded twice, by two different sales clerks and spent Thanksgiving weekend (and T-day itself, actually) crafting /my/ story with romance as a "Eh, why not?"

A.) The 'psychologist' was right in one aspect: media of all flavors has desensitized society to the shocks of violent or sexual scenarios. You can argue the pros and cons of that 'till the cows come home, though. And it's not like video games are standing alone in that field. Where would The Godfather be without Pacino gunning the police captain? Or Titanic without Winslet's tits? I mean, Christ, Top Gun had more sex than ME. >_<

B.) The ME 'screening page'? More intricate that some porn sites' screening pages. Most just have a "Yeah, I'm 18, let me in," ME forces you to be un-lazy and enter in your birthdate.

C.) What the hell is wrong with Skywalker + Sex? Okay, maybe LukePorn wouldn't fly over well, but Jedi orgies? All that concentrated Force, turned into raw sexual energy? Damn.

D.) if(Female_Shepard_diddling_herself == true) echo "Rock on, it's still just a game."

Syroch

Cause that is exactly what they are saying. They think that their own offspring is too much work to even bother making it a priority.

ncsbert

StrangestMan

morganrate

[www.washingtonpost.com]

[www.mercatornet.com]

All conjecture. Again.

quaver

1)"Look at the statistics, who's playing video games - adolescent males." (Paraphrasing)
Well according to my suitably convenient statistic from the ESA, The average game player is 33 years old and has been playing games for 12 years. The average age of the most frequent game buyer is 38 years old. In 2007, 92 percent of computer game buyers and 80 percent of console game buyers were over the age of 18.

2)"They dont show women as value for nothing else but their sexuality"
Much like the cover of her much lauded book, The Cult of Perfection which features a nice "provocative" (quoting Mr Sanchez of Texas, book reviewer) pose of a woman.

3) Luke Skywalker meets Debbie Does Dallas.
*Eye Rolling*. Not to mention the fact that did they get clearance to use those COPYWRITED names on national TV? HMM?

4) "It makes being a parent a much harder job"
And being a parent before graphic video games was a gigantic piece of piss was it? Get a spine.

Frankly I hope EA takes them to the cleaners and that very soon this channel ran by the most inane group of paranoid delusionists goes out with Bush n' Friends.

quaver

manitouwadge

Nimlygos

zaussome

excalipoor

FACT.50

It's over protection really, I think that's one of the biggest problems in this country.

ArbySasini

Swelbow

kstrod20

How do you badmouth and staple something you know little, but in this case, totally nothing about. Lesuire Suit Larry has more suggestive sexual content in it than Mass Effect so why wasn't that brought. Cooper Lawrence your license should be revoked, oh and you are a stupid bitch. Three of the Fox panelists are clues, self-righteous anuses.

The last guy on the panel was the only sensible individual; he said and I am paraphrasing "It's up to parents to control what their kids are seeing". Parents need to stop being illiterate and learn the ESRB rating system. The ESRB on boxes are clear and visible, much more visible than ratings on movie boxes.

What don't you understand? M for Mature, T for Teen. It's stamped on every box, front and back, and there are further details on the back. Parents, do you rent porn, NC-17 and rated R movies for you child? No, so why is it any different for games. Do you buy replica guns for a child? Why not, they aren't really guns? Sexually themed comic books exist, how about picking up a few for your child? I was being sarcastic on a few of these by the way.

Some parents these days don't care what their kids do, until they get hurt or do something stupid that hurts someone else; then they start to care and point the finger elsewhere. For all those parents, fuck you! Stop bring ignorant, bratty, I-hate-my-like-and-I-am-going-to shoot-somebody kids into this world! If you don't want to take care of them why have them! Kids are usually a reflection of their parents; if the parent(s) are dumb asses usually the kids aren't far behind. There should be a law.

If your child commits an adult crime that hurts another (murder, etc) that parent should be obligated to execute their child. This way they'll stop barring fuck-ups.

I know this is a rant but shit like this is pissing me off!

W T F!

WTFpeople

"What?"

"You want me to leave... but.. but I can help you do... "

"You're calling security, why?"

warf0x0r

scingram

ca$h

Gadgetron

AMonkey

Just for the record, let me state that it DISGUSTS me to no end to now know that this "psychology expert" Cooper is out there telling me, a WOMAN, that:

1.) I'm not part of the videogame demographic (She states that only fathers and their pre-teen/perverted sons bother to spend their time with such interactive smut instead of doing more PRODUCTIVE things with their life, like watching Oprah re-runs, buying Manolo Blahniks, and going food shopping).

This statement of hers only further perpetuates the very stereotype that female gamers are always up in arms about: We play too! We LOVE these games!

I mean, for Christ's sake-I just played Mass Effect for 5 hours straight last night. As a hard-ass female character (she's pretty rad btw).

Other things regarding this interview (specifically Cooper) that ticked me off:

-Her book, 'The Cult of Perfection' has her striking an s-curve modeling pose in full make-up, tight jeans and coiffed hair.

My guess is that she wasn't striving to be bitingly witty and ironic by arranging herself in such a manner on her front cover. (Which is nothing more than a ginormous, egotistical picture of HER).

This is merely irritating at first but becomes insufferable when she starts speaking about men seeing 'women as being these objects of desire.'

First of all: um...Seriously!? Men are SUPPOSED to desire women and here's an epiphany, WOMEN LIKE IT. It's healthy to want to feel beautiful to the opposite sex. babies don't just pop out of thin air lady! They come from two people who DESIRE one another.

The point I think she might be trying to make (and which she fails at miserably) is that women don't like is when men ONLY see them as objects of desire and not for real people.

Don't tell me for one second that Cooper Lawrence doesn't spend a few thousand dollars and a few thousand hours at the gym, followed up by a quick mani/pedi and make-up spackling all for her own joyous sense of self! Hell no! That woman is busting her butt to stay 'young' and 'DESERABLE' as long as possible to either:

1.) Land a husband so that she can quit her job, bust out a few offspring and do nothing but sit at home for the rest of her life...

-or-

2.) Keep the husband she has so that he doesn't find someone younger and more DESIERABLE than her, nab a quickie divorce and force her back into the workplace with no hopes of bouncing back because now she's been all used up.

Secondly: As for the blonde ditz running the show, the Pandora's box HAS NOT been opened. If anything, companies have bent over backwards for parents by installing those limiting controls within the X-Box and various other systems (that's why they're called 'Parental Controls' sweet-cheeks), Adding ESRB labels in clear and plain site on game boxes and requiring a license to buy adult and mature titles.

The responsibility at this point is in the hands of the parents! Here's a clue people: STOP HAVING KIDS IF YOU CAN'T RAISE THEM PROPERLY!!!!!!!!

They're NOT fashion accessories! YOU are not a star who's going to find quick-snapped baby photos of you and your child on the cover of US magazine while walking out of Mr. Chow's! Kids DO NOT make you HIP!

Kids are a responsibility, they take work and part of that work is to make sure that they're loved, cared for and looked after; even when they're not cute toddlers anymore and have become bratty, smart-mouthed pre-teens who want to buy violent videogames you might not approve of.

Re-reading this rant, I realize that as part of the industry I should probably make this commentary a little more polished and professional, but you know what?

I'm beyond angry after having watched that and just don't have it in me to take the higher road. I am so sick and tired of, not only the media taking pot-shots at an industry I work hard at and love but I'm also utterly disgusted that these two women are considered successful representatives of my gender.

So while they're sipping away on Cosmopolitan martinis at some So-Ho bar trying their damndest to look interesting and not overly desperate; I'm going to be sitting at home, ordering pizza, drinking Cherry Coke straight from the 2 liter and spending my 29th hour straight playing Mass Effect….and I will be happy.

Chobot

Hear the lady saying "I remember Atari? What happened to games in the 25+ years i've been living in a hole?!"

Mascott

physalis925

Fox News is a joke. They are the supermarket tabloid versions of actual, reliable, news coverage.

ErickTheRed

I liked how when Keighly asked "Have you actually played the game?" the response was an incredulous laugh, as though she would ever be caught dead playing a video game, EVEN IF SHE'S SPEAKING ABOUT IT AS AN EXPERT.

erlik

Anyone who watches Fox News is a jackass. Let alone the ppl who are actually on that channel. Bill O Reilly anyone?

Yaow

suburbanhell

Exactly.

suburbanhell

I think Keighley made a great argument about how games that offer multiple choices are a healthy experience on a developing mind. He also mentioned that characters can fall in love, but that was completely ignored. The statistics that "prove" young males cannot tell the difference between in-game and real-life acts may be slanted, but it is up to an nonpartisan commission to call them on it, not gamers. Video games no doubt affect a child's subconscious thought, but they do it differently for each one based on the child's personality, social-economic status, and upbringing. If only more "psychologists" would recognize this, they may realize that censoring is not a cure-all. Unfortunately, ignorance and scapegoats fuel a biased media machine.

Toothy

Theunderstander

AzureDrag0n1

rms10818

Muisee

This is why I don't watch television .. only clips of it ..

StolenName

StolenName

If all you see in the game is 'alien side-boob' then what about the fact that Family Guy has an episode called "PTV", in which Peter makes a tv show about 'side-boobs', I take it fox is fine with that.

daveyp

LORDofDANCE

Well, thats incorrect. Lots of tards watch Faux News.

Mithan

hostil1ty

SoulPunch

brandonf

Nice of EA not to send a letter from their lawyers. I would love to have seen that happen though. The retraction on fox would probably be very short with lots of dancing around the truth that there's no story here.

brandonf

HelmetRule

Also, they mention that "study" where these people couldn't differentiate between the video game and reality...HOW DO YOU NOT?

On top of that, I believe it was one of the panelists, said that they would not allow Mass Effect in their home. Good! If you think the content on the M rated game is too much for your child(ren), then don't allow it. That's what being a good parent is! My mother did that. Hell, I wasn't allowed to buy Halo for 3 years. It's just ridiculous that these people put all the blame on video games, when it is also a parenting deal. It's just flat out stupidity, grow up Fox. Most of us gamers are normal people.

Eschguy

This kind of crap upsets me, because it just seems like these people have no clue what they're talking about. Their main argument was that kids could access the game if their parents had it, or let them have it.

Seriously?

In that case, let's condemn all R-Rated movies, MA-Rated shows, adult books and magazines, and all other adult-oriented media, because it's in the house, thus the children can get to it. By all means, let's not put any responsibility into the parents' hands.

The fact that she had the audacity to insult the ESRB's credibility is probably what irritated me the most. I'm fairly certain that she needs to have her head checked if she doesn't have the foresight to figure out what ratings mean. The Mature rating is for games that are heavy on violence, language, and the like. Adult Only is usually reserved for games of an *extremely* violent, or more often, pornographic nature. I don't believe that anyone here would agree that any part of Mass Effect was of a pornographic nature.

These folks really need to get their facts straight before they decide to accuse a game of being pornographic and corrupting kids to be misogynistic and violent, and parents need to be accountable for what their children do and do not see or experience.

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Lumas

lowe0

buffbuddha

silentassasin86

heorays

hyperblackchi

[foxattacks.com]

[foxattacks.com]

Trojita

kw4k

yakkowarner

Also, it would have been nice if he could have cut in when they were talking about not "pandorax's box" and pointed out that the parental controls allow you to do exactly what they're claiming you cannot.

It's all ridiculous -- any unsupervised kid that has access to the internet that's looking for something salacious certainly isn't going to head for Mass Effect.

EvilCornbread

Shinamano

Prepare yourself for a really good laugh! Check out people taking out Cooper Lawrence's book reviews on Amazon:

[www.amazon.com]

TiKiMaN1

DaoKaioshin

-ChiboFR

ChiboFR

Somebody's uneducated... did she get that statistc straight from her imagination? The average gamer is now 24 (or is it 23? Whatever, it's twenty-something...) years old, and they dominate at least 70% of the market. (probably more)

Noremakk

-Mark Twain

RaaTheGodEater

jacksinn

"Journalism" is just a damn shame these days.

Katana3160

FUBAR_VoA

GorbyGipper

The idea of the host linking the Internet to MS's parental controls. As a man with many parent friends, and someone who plans on having children soon, the tools that Microsoft provides parents with is just awesome. I can filter games and movies by ratings, filter online content by type (pictures, video, voice, messages, user created content, availability of bio info, etc), and set a parental timer.

As a parent, you don't even need to set the clock on the microwave and say "Time's Up."

I understand that a 30-50 hour investment is a bit much to ask of a mass media talking head, but please get your facts straight. It's an M rated game. If you're going to get worked-up about kids playing it, go to Gamestop and run an expose on them, NOT the content providers that are honestly and accurately representing their game to the rating panels!

The really funny thing is that the folks doing the complaining, if forced to play through Mass Effect, would probably not play deep enough into the game to even get to a sex scene.

The gaming industry really needs more folks out there setting the record straight. Keighley was probably written-off by most viewers as soon as they heard that he has a show on Spike (not that I'd blame them, it's a crap station).

GorbyGipper

turtia

Fox owns the IGN Entertainment Network, which includes IGN, Gamespy and a multitude of other gaming websites that have universally praised Mass Effect.

(Unfortunately I've never played it - my Xbox died the day I got it and I can't get a new one until the start of next month.)

turtia

juicemaster23

PsycheDiver

It really can be that bad in America. It's usually only regarding games these days. I don't actually know anyone who feels the way of these people on the clip though. Even people who politically disagree with me think these people are idiots.

Ajh

Kafeen

Jim on the Wall

couldnt have said it better myself. this whole ordeal makes me so incredibly angry.

i heard a radio talk show about this and i almost called the "expert" up just to tell him off and to get his facts straight

khronos27

L_K_M

Fox news fails. I've been gaming since I was 2 or 3, and I'm pretty good at telling the difference between reality and fiction.

Although, I did like the completely dumb bint who was like "Whar Atari?!"

Oh, and Fox are communists now.

Mister Adequate

cvdb08

dblueguy

Gigith

This is why we need to try to get more gamers into main stream media. Gamer Girls Radio is in talks with a Fox station in Texas to become part of their permenant broadcast, please drop by Myfoxhouston.com and let them know you'd like to see GGR become apart of the fox family. We have to get more gamers up there so that the media can stop using scar tactics on parents who aren't that informed about video games and making them seem evil.

First it was rap and now video games....I'll ask the question I always ask..if games are making people so evil..what game was Hitler playing?

Gameinatrix

Erwin

GuardianEarth128

You see more in a 12 rated film, its pathetic im just gald i dont live in america

miketuck3r

damon53

Petezah

Even the moderator of the debate admits that she never even heard of the game until just before the argument. Also, i'm willing to put a lot of money on that fact that this "psychologist" never even played the game.

DCPlayaPride

amzo

BassmanPaul

LordChris915

LordChris915

LordChris915

LordChris915

LordChris915

LordChris915

I mean, there are so many weird complaints in this. The bitch actually says "Oh, but you have to pick up the game and look on the back of the box to find the rating". First, aside from the fact that thats a lie with the rating being clearly visible from the front and often times even while the game is loading, if that WERE the minimum of what you had to do, complaining about that as though its some kind of hassle seems out and out retarded.

She just completely dismisses all of the available means of keeping children from accessing this material, ranging from parental controls on all current generation consoles to internet filters. She is clearly pandering to the lowest common denominator... that is to say the absolute dregs of society, the people who clearly don't give even half the amount of a shit necessary to spend 3 minutes setting up the child protection stuff... the people who aren't willing to glance at the media purchased by their children. And thats all it takes really, a glance. Anyone who isn't completely fucking retarded would find the rating immediately.

If anything, raising children is far easier today than it has been in the past. All of these tools are availble to people whereas it USED to be true that children required monitoring. If parents spent less time worrying about the dangers of their children losing their "innocence" and spent more time preparing those children for an ugly little thing called reality, there would be none of this bullshit mental damage they love to harp on about so much.

DimensionWarped

edb87

Goodthymes

Jomo7

I'm so mad I can't even form a complete thought right now. Argh!

Android8675

DragonTG

My god it's two people kissing and then the camera pans away and then it cuts to a "how was it"? It's the biggest non-issue in the history of human civilization.

And by the way it could be the most XXX fetish rated game ever and I still don't see why that's so much worse than VIOLENCE. YOu know, how it's natural for every human being to have sex, and stuff.

dowingba

RudeAnimat0r

Crawl to China

Kang

That just says it all.

Billkwando

IlluminatusV

7ucky

I think first they need to question they're own parenting methods before passing the buck onto something which they have control over if they wish to exercise such an action.

There is no worse content in this game than you see in your average dance video, which usually features scantily clad women being doused in water, heck I grew up watching these videos now I cant help but douse girls in water... its ingrained but when I want to go interactive with a girl I press the 'A' button. note sarcasm.

Its a shame its easy for people to accuse something they don't understand, then they don't even try to understand it.

ibu

Jagzthebest

Also if they are frightened that kids will see that, then they should really be concerned about whats out there on the internet, and its not as if there is no sex or violence featured on TV these days either. To be honest its just a scapegoat and the video game developer or publisher here are not to blame. Ok parents cant have full control over what there kids access but they have some control and if they teach their children good values and whatnot as a teenager even if they olay violent videogames or whatever I very highly doubt that there will be much effect, I mean are they to say 13, 14 ,15 year olds or whatever dont have a sense of reality or whats right or wrong.

I love how he called the "psychiatrist" out on not playing the game though and highlighting the flaws of her argument, although i doubt the general public will realise that, and those who hate video games will continue to hate them.

ciabb64

toadkick

I'm a parent, and its my job to protect my child, not anyone elses. I hated not having cable, or the internet (neither till I moved out) growing up, but my parents didn't want it in the house. So they gave up having things to be good parents. These pussies want you to give up having things because they can't live up to being parents. Now I have these things in my house today, but the difference is I'm much more up on things then my parents. I know how to use the parental controls on almost every electronic device made today, and these coward need to learn how to as well.

Stop imposing on freedom because you can't be a good parent.

Y0URGOD78

CyberG4

Kaemon

"This is a day and age where you can't always supervise your children."

"It's too hard to be a parent."

Those are the worst scapegoats I ever heard. It's too hard to be a parent? Then do us all a favor and stop bearing children if they're a burden. They better hope they never end up in divorce court fighting over custody of their kids cause they just admitted to being crappy parents on national TV.

Then of course the statements regarding how easy it must be to access the content (again, disregarding the parental control feature) and how there's no more innocent video games anymore for children (she must have not heard the guy that just talked about the princess game he was playing with his 6-year-old daughter).

Absent Blue

"The people who rate this should have their head examined" This coming from a woman who, by what she said, has not played a videogame since Pac Man. She wanted to give mass effect an AO rating? Booooooo!

At least there were three people on that panel who could at least agree that parents should be invested in what their kids are playing and watching.

YotaruVegeta

Please send them some Hentai games... anyone?

OmiCom

ComradeStalin

It takes how long with how many different conversations done in the right manner to unlock the scene? *sarcasm* I'm sure every adolescent is going to read through all of that. I'm pretty sure most if not all kids that have access to this game are going to have seen nudity somewhere else, first. It happens, we have movies, internet and cable.

daemonx2

This game is being bashed by people who knows nothing about it. Sure...don't let your kid play a video game because a study said so...just let him watch TV where he'll eventually see a woman being raped or kids being murdered...

Mass Effect is nothing near boning as much women as you want...like she describes it.

My 0.02$
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Xmaster

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