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SCEA Talks Possible LBP PSP, Portable's Future

joelface — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 03:02:52 MST

i do LOVE my psp, but i have to admit, its a little big to be carrying around everywhere.

even with skype, i couldn't imagine replacing it with my cellphone... seems like a lot of work to carry the psp around everywhere.

that said, i do like to bring it places in a backpack or something, and use it somewhere once i'm sitting down and waiting somewhere.. but as for actually using it on the go... not so much.

joelface

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taomaster99 — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 12:45:32 MST

VIVA LA ps3!!!!! hahahahahaha, i'm sorry I was just kidding!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Ehardergardens — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 11:23:13 MST

@DarkNight_DS: Do you have a report that shows attachment(games per unit) info. I've heard there's a low attachment rate for the Wii, but not for the psp particularly.
The psp has more than 20 million sold, that's not a potential market to shake a stick at and dismiss.
I thought Squeenix had some FF game still to come out in North America that sold insanely well in japan? I'm not into that genre so I may have that wrong. Sounded lie a major release though.

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Ehardergardens — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 11:18:30 MST

@Demonbird: Ok I'm lost you listed the games you like, if i'm understanding you:
"Metal Gear
Various Fighters (Bleach, Powerstone, Street Fighter etc.)
Oddball puzzlers like crush.
I enjoyed the psp SW Battlefront games"
and I'm not seeing any of these types on the DS. I Think what people are trying to tell you is that you are incorrect in saying there are no games on the PSP, there are plenty from all genres, they may not be games you like, but that doesn't mean they aren't there. You can complain to sony, much like i could complain that the 360 doesn't have games like Mario, and Zelda, but that would be silly. I like my DS and the DS just fine, but I think theres a perception problem here.

If you indeed like those sorts of games you listed, here's a break down for you(none of which is homebrew):

Metal Gear: I believe there are now about 4 metal gear games on the psp not including the interactive comic book. Is there anything like this on DS?

Various Fighters: Bleach is available (import only) Tekken, Mortal Kombat, Dark Stalkers. I'm not sure what is on the DS in this genre?

Oddball puzzlers:
EXIT, Loccorocco, Mercury, Puzzle Quest, Lumines II, PQ, Katamari, Every Extended Extra

These are just what i can think of. Most of these are very highly rated, although I only have played a few of them.

I hope this helps and you can get some games you like on your psp now.

Ehardergardens

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Revenge_of_Nekojin — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 08:20:35 MST

@Mpalm.: Once again, big difference between 'witty joke' and 'mocking'. Grow some Internet armor, kid. I don't hold any illusions about my consoles. I just buy 'em all and let the games sort them out.

Revenge_of_Nekojin

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D1498 — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 05:24:30 MST

Why the fuck is Crysis Core cited as a good game. Everything we've heard so far is that its a shitty cash in with good graphics. Fuck SE.

Also, something about just listing two games doesn't make for a compelling case for the PSP's 08 library. Sonys sold over 20 million of those things and from what I can tell they can't even make a game platinum.

D1498

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Foxstar Sixtail — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 04:16:37 MST

They both are good systems, but IMHO, the fact that the DS is going on to end up with a level of market control much like the PS2 has on home systems is what's really killing the PSP, because devs will always give the system with a larger install base more love. It's why the PS2 overcame the Dreamcast, the GameCube and the Xbox and why there's just so many games out for it.

The price point of the games doesn't help the PSP one bit, I'm not paying $39,99-$49,99 for portable games. The HIGHEST DS games top out at $35 down here and that's very rare and most of the time, you can go down the road and get that $35 game for $30. PSP? Nope.

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PristineSneakers — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 03:46:56 MST

@Purple Dave:

The PSP doesn't have a D Pad? I thought I was using one the past year and a half. Holy shit.... I need to stop drinking.

PristineSneakers

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rockmanjoey — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 02:44:27 MST

@Demonbird: Power Stone Collection is awesome. My Dreamcast is dead and I can't find another Dreamcast secondhand.

I thought about getting a PSP-2000. I used my brothers Final Fantasy VII CC PSP and the D-Pad for fighting games is so much better. I tried out Darkstalkers on PSP and on the Slim, I could execute the attacks easily. The D-Pad on my PSP isnt good for Capcom fighting games but works fine for Guilty Gear XX Slash. With Skype and new features for the Slim PSP, I am really tempted to get the PSP-2000.

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livinglogic — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 01:50:44 MST

@Deadeyereborn: I also go to where the games are, which is why I've gone to both the DS and PSP, so that I can get the best of both systems. Sorry bro, but the fact is that I love my PSP and my DS, and they both have their strong points and weak points. Regardless, as a real gamer I do my homework before investing in a system and I'm glad I got both my handhelds.

livinglogic

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HAGE — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 01:12:48 MST

The PSP does make money, right? I actually don't know that, but if it does, then can we just cool off on the PSP/DS deal? Just because the DS is so massively successful does not make the PSP a failure. I personally love my DS and it gets more play than my PSP, but both are successful with definite things that appeal to me. The portable market is big enough for more than one player, and in this case, I think you can say that both systems are successful. Now, "one more so than the other" is a point that is pretty much impossible to argue, but THAT doesn't really matter as long as you enjoy it.

HAGE

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cheez — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 23:17:43 MST

One day, Kotaku will post a PSP/PS3 story in which the comments don't devolve into "Has no games!" idiocy.

Today is not that day.

cheez

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humorbot — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 23:12:54 MST

@scotty: Dude, are you Witzbold's doppelganger? Your avatars are disconcertingly similar.

humorbot

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fuchikoma — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 22:55:52 MST

I love this thing. It's still the ultimate gadget. And for those who keep saying "too bad there aren't any games for it," look around and grow up. I've played my PSP more than any of my consoles or other handhelds since launch. Those include a Wii and a DS Lite. As others have suggested, if you can't find any games on the PSP, maybe you're just not into gaming?

fuchikoma

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Mpalm. — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 20:58:43 MST

@Revenge_of_Nekojin:

Please... i don't care what system you mock. Whatever it is, it's dumb. You're dumb for doing it... and you must lead a sad life to have to go on a forum and bash a console for a company that will make more money than your family will make in hundreds of years.

Mpalm.

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scotty — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 20:27:10 MST

@Witzbold: Yes, us prinnies demand it.
I'm an idort myself, I've had a DS, and I just bought a PSP yesterday.
So far i picked up Daxter, GTA VCS, and right now i'm looking for Lumines 2.
(damn why is it so hard to find!?!?)
Both systems are great, I watch some anime on my PSP aswell which is great for me on long trips while my DS is great for short bursts.
Both systems are amazing in their own ways.

scotty

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kNZA — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 20:14:28 MST

@Mongoosekun:

You've got me confused with someone else.

kNZA

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Anemone — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 19:44:43 MST

@PlayerX: PS3s, no matter what model, play PS1 games. The compatability issue only arises in relation to PS2 software.

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Revenge_of_Nekojin — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 19:17:45 MST

Oh, it's not just me? In that case, quit being such a thin-skinned fanboy. D:

Revenge_of_Nekojin

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Witzbold — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 17:46:39 MST

@Mpalm.: Would you cut it out with calling everyone trolls?

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Revenge_of_Nekojin — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 15:23:43 MST

@Mpalm.: I'm not trolling, I'm trying to be witty. ;_; I own 5 PS3 games myself.

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Doshu — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 15:10:31 MST

@Purple Dave: As the recent Gamespot fiasco suggests, those aggregated ratings may be based on bought-and-paid-for scores, not true reflections of what the reviewers actually thought.

And somehow (in your mind) that only affects some consoles, and not others.

Fact is, if you go by metacritic rankings the Wii only matches the same number of high quality titles (rating 90+) as the PS3 (while having a lot more titles available), but has a less quality titles (rating 80+) and a much lower proportion of quality titles than any of the competition.

The same is also true when comparing the DS to the PSP. There are less DS games rating 80+ for it even though it has a bigger library.

Doshu

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DarkNight_DS — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 15:03:21 MST

@Mpalm.: I realize it HAS some good games. I'm not saying it doesn't. The problem with the PSP in 08 is going to be that 3rd parties are backing out of supporting the system due to poor sales. Square Enix didn't even mention support at all for it in their latest discussions. They mentioned DS, Wii and PS3 support and maybe 360... Other third parties have also decided that it's not a profitable system to develop for. So even though the hardware is great and there are good games, the only good games left are the 2 mentioned possibly a few more first and 2nd party games and then what?

DarkNight_DS

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TheJeanGenie — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 14:11:26 MST

@loyal2none: I agree, why compare the two when they offer different experiences?

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TheJeanGenie — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 14:10:27 MST

I love my PSP :-D I got it about August last year,and have never run out of games for it, GTA:LCS is amazing, I think better than GTA3, also Ratchet and Clank, Lumines, Burnout, Ridge Racer, Wipeout Pulse, which is amazing.
Plus there's the PS1 games I had forgotten about(FF7!) I may even try out the N64 emulator, since there's no harm.
Also, in NZ no one has a DS so at least with a PSP I can find people to play against:-p

You can bash the PSP if you want, but owners may as well just sit back and enjoy it.

TheJeanGenie

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Loyal2none — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 14:01:52 MST

Personally, I feel that the PSP has been the perfect complement to the DS.

Best of both worlds has never rung so true.

Loyal2none

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JonC — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 13:08:12 MST

@boopadoo:

Features on par with Iphones. Lol. The Iphone doesn't even have face buttons to allow gaming. Jeez.

JonC

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Mpalm. — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 12:58:01 MST

@Sunjammer:

You didn't exactly counter me on it kiddo, you simply threw out fabricated information. Keep hitting my sore spot please i kind of like it.

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Huxle — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 12:54:41 MST

Nice! LBP on the PSP. Could you possibly make a better combo?

Huxle

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Sunjammer — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 12:54:24 MST

@Mpalm.: Don't be such a baby. You brought up Uncharted as an example, and i countered you on it. All you're doing now is clutching at straws and conjecture.

Funny how easy it was to hit your sore spot. It must be huge.

Sunjammer

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Mpalm. — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 12:51:29 MST

Then again, if you play it on easy / normal and just run through it without any treasures... sure... doubt that would even be 5 hours but whatever makes you feel cool over the internet.

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Mpalm. — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 12:45:33 MST

@Sunjammer:

First of all... mate... you didn't beat uncharted in 5 hours. I doubt you even have it. And all we have? Please... just keep throwing out fabricated information, it makes you look intelligent. Just look past all the other games out... and don't forget games that aren't exclusive... ps3 doesn't have any of those either. Like COD4 or anything... Troll harder next time please... you are really hitting my sore spot, oh its so sore.

Mpalm.

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Sunjammer — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 12:34:35 MST

@MrBionic: To me that game is one of those games that just wasnt designed to be beat. And i'm grateful for it, every time i get a little further it's genuinely exciting. Few games now really give you that oldschool feeling of level-by-level advancement as an accomplishment.

Sunjammer

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MrBionic — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 12:28:48 MST

@Sunjammer: Ultimate Ghosts n Goblins was brilliant, but *hard*. Just like a great Ghosts n Goblins should be. However, it frustrated me to the point that it became a victim to trade-ins. lol. Now I regret it. I miss the music.

MrBionic

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Sunjammer — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 12:24:42 MST

@Vexorg: Choice titles for the PSP in my opinion:

Wipeout fusion
Megaman powered up (the system seller for me)
Burnout legends
Metal Gear Acid 1 and 2
Ultimate ghosts n goblins
Pursuit force

Megaman powered up is a system-defining game for me. It felt like everything about that game catered to the strengths of the system exactly as it should be done. The community bit could've been a lot better, but it was still workable.

Sunjammer

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MrBionic — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 12:22:37 MST

Actually, nevermind, I found one! I guess things change in a couple of months. *sheepish look*

MrBionic

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MrBionic — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 12:19:24 MST

@Aflack: Likes slushies: Novel idea, but Canadians can't get gamefly accounts.

But if you *do* know of a Canadian online rental service offering PSP games, I'd be glad to know about it. I haven't found one to this point.

MrBionic

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Vexorg — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 12:18:00 MST

I bought a PSP a couple of weeks ago, and quite frankly, I'm still trying to figure out exactly why I did. Looking at the racks at most stores reveals big piles of shovelware, and nothing that I care to play (I have zero interest in the majority of the major Sony franchises such as SOCOM, Syphon Filter, MGS or any of that other stuff. Disgaea is entertaining, but I can only think of 2 or 3 other games I care to pick up, and those are nowhere to be found.

Vexorg

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Sunjammer — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 12:17:27 MST

@slomo788: Nah Skype isn't the point, but the fact that there IS content coming for the PSP that's specific for the slim sets the bar for the future of the fat boy. If Sony allows ANYONE to create content for their platform that isn't compatible with the old version and makes use of the better specs of the slim, you bet your ass new developers will follow suit.

I just think it's funny this isn't creating more of an outcry.

No big deal for me, my PSP was dead to me the day Capcom killed Megaman powered up 2. *cry*

Sunjammer

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Sunjammer — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 12:13:41 MST

@Mpalm.: I can't help it if you finish games slower than i do mate. Also, nice kneejerk flailing reaction there, throwing "fanboy" indiscriminately much like a fecal matter flinging ape.

Funny how sore a spot that was for you really. My point wasn't that Uncharted was too short. My point is Uncharted is about all you got. Which makes those hours all the shorter, especially for a game that doesn't really pack a lot of heft in terms of replay value.

Sunjammer

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Aflack: feels sick to his stomach — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 12:11:54 MST

@MrBionic: Psst! Get Gamefly.

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boopadoo — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 12:08:23 MST

Anyone remembers the e-Helmet in Aqua Teen Hunger Force? Same thing. The 360 approach isn't going to work well for the PSP -- release a core system, then sell add-ons. Once Apple gets their shit together and makes some quality games for iPhone/Touch, then it's all over for PSP...unless Sony can, again, release ANOTHER version of the handheld, but one with built-in features that are on-par with iPhone/Touch, then they may have a chance.

Oh, and they really need to shrink that PSP form-factor. I mean, that scene with the guy in the airport; it looked like he was holding a TV remote!

Yes, the PSP makes me a little frustrated. When I saw it at E3, I thought it was going to destroy the DS, but when it launched with atrocious loading times, lame UMD movie lineup, no Wi-Fi support, no TV-out, awful text entry, etc. I lost a lot of faith.

I just have the feeling it's "too little, too late."

boopadoo

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PlayerX — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 12:05:05 MST

@Nascar: You can run PSX games on a PSP? Is that one of those features that are coming out this year, to be used through the PS3?

If so, would those of us who don't have backwards compatibility get screwed?

PlayerX

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MrBionic — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 12:02:21 MST

@Veltis: I have never heard of try before buy, and wouldn't even know where to start. I don't do homebrew, and shouldn't *have* to mess around with my system in order to try games. I just wish PSN offered a lot more demos, but those are few and far between as well.

MrBionic

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comedy — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 11:59:12 MST

@Masume: i mentioned that, but it uses up battery, and if you forget about having done that then it will run out a few hours later... this is where (and i know it's a minor point, but it matters to me) the psp wins. that was my point, i apologise for not making it clear enough

comedy

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Veltis — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 11:58:32 MST

@MrBionic: Never heard of try before buy? Thats what I do, if the game is good I buy it. Try the custom firmware you cannot brick your PSP anymore, but at least if you play with the game buy the original even if you play only with the ISO file.

Veltis

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PlayerX — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 11:55:18 MST

I gotta say, if I had absolutely nothing else to buy, and I had 300$ lying around, I'd pick up a PSP and Katamari and Loco Roco. Otherwise, it's just not even on my radar.

PlayerX

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Veltis — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 11:53:21 MST

@Mongoosekun: Amen to that.

Veltis

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MrBionic — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 11:52:49 MST

I own a PSP and have loved it for the entire time I've had it. The one thing that keeps it from being a top-shelf system for me is the lack of support it has in the rental industry. Nobody in my city rents PSP games, and only two stores in Vancouver rented them. (Two stores that were nowhere near where I lived at the time at that), and the stores where I live now have absolutely no plans to rent PSP games in the near or far future.

This is a real blow to a person like me, that doesn't always have the funds to throw on games that I can't try first. This means that I pass on a lot of potentially good games because I just can't throw the $39.99 on them in the *hopes* that I'll like them.

Rentals are an important process in my gaming and my decisions to purchase. Sadly, I've never been able to rent PSP games, so I've never had much of a diverse library. I pretty much stick to games I almost know I'll like, and even then I find myself trading in more often than not. It's too bad.

I'm probably a minority in this case however, but it's really frustrating.

MrBionic

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PapaBear434 — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 11:44:54 MST

"With" is suppose to be "wish." I'm a little tired today. Up too late last night playing Super Stardust demo. Might have to pick this game up.

PapaBear434

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PapaBear434 — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 11:42:40 MST

@rlh445:

I could list the games that are exclusive, and considered to be top end, but you likely already know of them and willfully with to ignore them.

Just because you refuse to acknowledge their existence doesn't make them disappear.

PapaBear434

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Mongoosekun — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 11:37:28 MST

@kNZA:

Actually the accessories are old news. You could've imported them years ago now. They're just finally bringing them to the US. To say finally selling the same hardware in the US ditracts from game production shows a certain naivete. You should also come to release a lot of the best games for PSP come from SCE already. Stop repeating stupid memes.

Mongoosekun

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bouzane — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 11:29:50 MST

@ MASUME

"Not sure what kind of games you enjoy, but the number of *actual* A+ titles on the DS outweigh the PSP ten to one, in every genre."

Wow, that's one of the most ignorant fanboy comments I have ever read. The last time I checked the DS couldn't touch the PSP in terms of:
stealth action games like Syphon Filter and Metal Gear Solid
tactical RPGs like FF Tactics, Disgea and Jeanne D'Arc
puzzle games like Crush and Exit
sandbox action games like Grand Theft Auto
3D platformers like Daxter and Ratchet and Clank

bouzane

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Demonbird — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 11:26:19 MST

@Masterpain22:
Yeah, not enjoying certain genres does limit my choices, but I would really like to get at least one game from my favored genres each year... not very likely with the psp.

Demonbird

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Masume — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 11:25:58 MST

Which reminds me, you can save state when you simply close the DS lid, and it will pause things fine for you and shut off the screens, not that I ever really use it. -,-

Masume

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Saint Anima — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 11:24:50 MST

Meh. So much unwarranted hate for the PSP. 2007 was a great year for the PSP, especially for Strategy RPG fans. 2008 is gonna be another great year looking at the upcoming releases. Haters can say what they want, but when they see amazing games like Crisis Core and Chains of Olympus alongside cool games like Patapon, they should want a PSP instead of bashing it. Me, I have both a PSP and DS so I have the best from each at my choosing.

Saint Anima

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Masterpain22 — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 11:22:51 MST

@Demonbird: I guess it is all a matter of what kind of taste do you have in games, not everyone is going to like the same kind of thing to play. You mentioned that you don't like at least three types of games, and that is always going to limit your gaming collection a little bit.

My game collection for the psp far exceeds the one I have for the DS, and that surprises me a little bit because based on the bad rep that the psp got in its first year in the market the system is supposed to have no good games and it is only good for homebrew.

Anyways, I like the games I got and plan on getting fot the psp, and the idea of being able to buy some games online, but most of these periferals are not getting me excited. I hope that sony won't decide to concentrate to much on this kind of stuff and keep improving the gaming library.

Masterpain22

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Masume — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 11:18:29 MST

@comedy:

Man a self save state function isn't that amazing, DS homebrew can do it as well. That really isn't a selling point, I shouldn't have to have a game that CAN'T save quickly when I need to, which pretty much any decent portable game will on the fly. You pretty much have to use that for the PSP because your playing games that weren't meant to be played on handhelds. Illegal ones, at that. Not a great way to tout a system.

Not sure what kind of games you enjoy, but the number of *actual* A+ titles on the DS outweigh the PSP ten to one, in every genre.

Masume

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comedy — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 11:12:04 MST

@Masume: you can just turn off the psp... when you turn it back on it's right where you left it, at no cost in battery. honestly i take both my ds and psp with me, yes, a short burst of ds can be fun, but i spend a great deal more time using my psp - portable gaming can be just as worthwhile in half hour or hour long bursts. for that matter, there have been many times where i've had to stop gaming in an instant, at this point my psp beats my ds every time! i can just shut my ds right? well then the next time i open it it's back where i started, but because i left it the entire day the battery has run out... it has happened many times! - of course this may be my own fault, but at least the psp makes sure that even if i forget it still has its battery when i turn it back on at the end of the day.

comedy

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Masume — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 11:05:03 MST

@comedy:

It's hilarious because Sony dropped the ball badly, and it ended up that the very people they hate (self coders, hackers etc) on the homebrew scene kept their beast on life support (Along with the fanboys). Now they actually have a few decent games on it, and their touting it's going to be the year of the PSP? This is typical Sony, but I can't imagine why anyone whould buy their PR.

Personally, there are better ways to play PS1 games, emulated or otherwise, I can't imagine sitting down and playing a console based game with long intervals between saves. Portable gaming should be fun in quick bursts, which is what the DS nails perfectly.

Masume

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Demonbird — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 11:02:03 MST

@comedy:

You can't seriously believe that Brain Training is the only thing for the DS.

Demonbird

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comedy — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 10:58:42 MST

@Masume: but why is that hilarious? i guess, yes sony didn't make it for that, but frankly it's a good system, and if people come for the homebrew often they'll stay for the games. the more people who have a psp the better, as when good games for the psp do come out there will be people there to buy them. i only bought wipeout pure when i got my psp, then i found metal gear acid, katamari, a few others, and recently i've found digaea, ff tactics, metal slug have held my interest - a lot more than brain training.
but yes, for me the most used part of the psp is the ps1 games playing (and i don't mean the ones i can download off the psn) this has meant all of the final fantasy games, chrono cross, ufo:enemy unknown, doom, metal gear 1, gta2... and several others, have all come back.
it would be nice if more ps1 games for psp were released officially, but also if they flood the market with them people are not going to buy as many of them as with controlled supply.

comedy

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Demonbird — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 10:53:35 MST

@comedy:
Metal Gear
Various Fighters (Bleach, Powerstone, Street Fighter etc.)
Oddball puzzlers like crush.
I enjoyed the psp SW Battlefront games.

Demonbird

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Masume — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 10:49:14 MST

@comedy:

The hilarious thing is that homebrew is the ONLY thing that kept the PSP afloat and alive for as long as it did. Everyone I knew who owned one simply bought it for that reason. They might finally be looking at real games for it, but they are so far behind it isn't funny.

Masume

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comedy — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 10:45:37 MST

@Demonbird: so tell us what games you do like and maybe someone will know one you can get for your psp?

comedy

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comedy — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 10:43:35 MST

ok, although it's 'illegal' etc. the psp has some very convincing 'homebrew' applications... there's already a variant of skype (for all psp versions)... there are all the emulators, too numerous to list... media playing applications... pda-esque apps as well.
and then there are quite a few good games on the psp, with 2008 looking even better - patapon, crisis core, gow, wipeout pulse (for usa).

ds has some awesome games, but psp is looking better and better as the features become more relevant and the games library gets larger and better.

i wouldn't hold my breath for gt:psp, that's just not going to happen.

comedy

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Demonbird — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 10:42:14 MST

@shinko:
Piracy didn't kill psp software sales, subpar system sales and seldom released decent games killed the psp software sales.

Demonbird

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Demonbird — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 10:39:08 MST

Ok, I have an original psp and have no interest in peripherals that I am unable to use due to Sony not wanting to acknowledge non-slim psp systems still exist. What I want for my psp is games. I know everybody out there is like "Oh Syphon filter, jean d'arc, FF tactics, etc." But most gamers don't happen to play every game of every genre and franchise out there. I never got into Syphon Filter, Tactics games make me bored, and God of War is far too Hack and Slash for me. If the only way to get any worth out of your psp is to buy every game the system has that is good, even if you don't like them, then the system has failed. The system does not need peripherals. God knows that it is already far too difficult to carry around without a ton of extras. The system needs games. They need enough games out there so that psp owners could have a decent sized collection of games, and not wind up having to mirror the library of every other psp owner on the planet. So Far, there are only 2 psp games of any interest to me coming out this year, and more than ten for the DS, most of which are third party games. Nintendo figured out that gamers enjoy video games (not so much for the wii yet). Why can't sony?

Demonbird

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Masume — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 10:36:48 MST

Year of the PSP? That was pretty funny, what will they do for an encore next? Were buying Microsoft and Nintendo? The DS sales have surpassed anything the PSP can ever possibly catch up to, and it's still selling like hotcakes. ;)

All kidding aside, I'm amazed that thing is still alive with the library it has, so I'll give it credit, but man there are some Sony loyalists who will believe anything.

Masume

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Krellie — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 10:32:54 MST

@Mpalm.:
Its not that far off from the truth thou. Especially if you count system exclusives.

Uncharted
Ratchet & Clank

runner-ups:
Singstar
Warhawk
UT3
Motorstorm
Heavily Sword
Eye of Judgement

and thats it. Not trying to flame or anything. Its just the truth as I see it. (IMO!)

Krellie

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DELETED — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 10:21:39 MST

Remote play with LBP will so make me buy a PSP or even 2!

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Gladman — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 10:21:07 MST

Make it smaller! Smaller screen will do, ty.

Gladman

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Mpalm. — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 10:15:53 MST

@Revenge_of_Nekojin:

Keep on trollin'

Mpalm.

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Accordion — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 10:06:52 MST

@Witzbold:

Wipeout Pulse was released in europe before christmas, great game.

I hadnt seen that PSN store layout in the video before. I presume a version for PS3 will appear soon enough.

Accordion

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Revenge_of_Nekojin — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 09:59:12 MST

Everyone knows the statement 'The PS3 has no games' is dead now.

The new statement is 'The PS3 only has 2 games.'

Revenge_of_Nekojin

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htd — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 09:41:27 MST

psp/ps3 are really nice for non-game functions. BD is winning for sure, ps3 will pick up because of that, how stupid is M$ not to 'commit' on HD-DVD.

htd

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2NinjasTapedTogether — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 09:26:56 MST

@Nascar: So people who want to use a gaming machine for games are... anal retentive?

I think I'm one of the last people left who really doesn't give a shit about multimedia devices. My PS3 plays games and, just because it is hooked up to my hi-def TV, my regular DVDs. But I don't plan on picking up my entire library on Blu-Ray now, just because I can. Because that's stupid and a waste of money.

However your list speaks for itself. It IS a good list. Can't say more than two or three of 'em interest me. Partially cuz I don't own (or want) and PSX games. But hopefully other people will like 'em more.

2NinjasTapedTogether

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DreamcastRIP — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 09:16:23 MST

Re: "...though I hope that Sony continues to concentrate more on the games..."

Yeh, I bought a PSP a couple of months after launch and I'm STILL waiting for Gran Turismo...

DreamcastRIP

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mossberg — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 09:15:36 MST

@motorstorm: you don't even know how rehearsed that sounds

mossberg

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Witzbold — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 09:04:27 MST

@Krellie: Hey cool thanks for the info!

Witzbold

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Krellie — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 08:51:25 MST

@Witzbold: Eurogamer had a review of Pulse up not that long ago.
[www.eurogamer.net]
They mentioned W HD in the Coming attractions article as well iirc. No new info thou.

Krellie

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dv8godd — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 08:48:26 MST

@Purple Dave: Don't take this the wrong way, but your logic was a bit strained there.

You can't call into question all review ratings because of that occurrence, then suggest that two unreleased games that we have very little info on are going to "instant win".

Nothing personal, but it does come off as a bit trollish, which I don't believe was the intent.

dv8godd

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Mpalm. — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 08:45:35 MST

@Sunjammer:

Nice job saying something that you know absolutely nothing about. Try a good 10 hours or so. Nice try though, really, your fanboy skills are almost there. Maybe do a little research beforehand.

Mpalm.

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Witzbold — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 08:41:17 MST

@Nascar: Yeah I had totally forgotten about Wipeout Pulse. Since there hasnt been anything mentioned on that in quite a while. Along with the PSN wipeout. :x

---

This is pretty cool news for me since Ill be getting a slim psp anyways. Will be looking foward to seeing how skype works on it. Since i hate having it on my pc thats why.

Witzbold

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fragged_23 — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 08:40:38 MST

The PSP is starting to have some pretty cool games. Some personal favorites of mine is Sid Meier's Pirates!; Madden 08; Ratchet and Clank: Size Matters; Vice City Stories, Liberty City Stories; and Killzone: Liberation. That keeps me occupied when I'm away from my PC or PS3.

fragged_23

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TitillatedOcelot — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 08:37:28 MST

@Nascar: Woo! TACTICS! Awesome title.

TitillatedOcelot

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Destrudo — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 08:36:44 MST

My PSP and I are looking forward to this year. The latter half of last year saw some good releases and I pray Sony keeps it's momentum intact.

I agree with those who are tired of all these peripherals coming out but it's really just a sign of the times, I suppose. Where a game system was once enough, a media center now is the bare minimum that people seem to expect(that or maybe it's what Sony thinks we want).

Destrudo

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Veltis — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 08:36:37 MST

For all the trolls, we will feed you again today: [en.wikipedia.org] , you can include in this list all the consoles below the PS1(included) even the amiga titles.

Veltis

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Randomcitizenx — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 08:34:16 MST

*Looks at his shelf of games where the number of PS3 titles are quickly catching up to the number of 360 titles* nope, no games at all.

Randomcitizenx

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Most Wanted — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 08:24:41 MST

PSP is an awesome little machine.

Those that ONLY want it for games (because you're anal retentive) can still choose from many great ones.

Just this past year saw Syphon Filter, FF: Tactics, Jeanne D'arc, Disgaea, Size Matters, Dracula X, Crush, Pirates! and many others.

2008 you'll see Patapon, Crisis Core, God of War, Flat Out, Agent Clank, WipeOut Pulse plus be able to go back in time and play ALL your PS1 games on your PSP.

Maybe those that bought the PSP and are now complaining about lack of games should have thought about your gaming likes BEFORE you bought the machine? No, you'll not get to play Mario or Zelda (oh...wait a minute, the PSP runs emulation software too...guess you could play Mario on your PSP if you wanted)

Most Wanted

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Purple Dave — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 08:23:43 MST

@vincentprice:
As the recent Gamespot fiasco suggests, those aggregated ratings may be based on bought-and-paid-for scores, not true reflections of what the reviewers actually thought. It also doesn't account for the janky design of the PSP controls, like how it _has_no_D-Pad_.

Besides, DS got LEGO Star Wars: Complete Saga and PSP got skipped, suggesting it might not ever see LEGO Indiana Jones or LEGO Batman either. Instant win.

Purple Dave

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FP_slomo788 — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 08:18:46 MST

@Sunjammer: It stilplay the same games. You're not going to whine for Skype are you? I'm sure you wouldn't buy it even if you had a 2000.

FP_slomo788

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ReignFury — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 08:18:33 MST

@Deadeyereborn: If you can't find games on the PSP to play then may I suggest you take up a new hobby because there are loads of decent titles to choose from, maybe you're just not into gaming.

ReignFury

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Purple Dave — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 08:17:51 MST

Maybe Koller figures if he keeps saying it long enough, eventually it'll come true and that's all everyone will remember.

Purple Dave

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vincentprice — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 08:17:47 MST

An informal meta analysis study was done where they compared the number of quality titles for both systems, quality meaning scoreing an average of over 80% according to metacritic, and yes the psp had more quality titles on it than the ds. I have an r4 for my ds and trust me ive played almost everything and there really arent that many quality games on it.

vincentprice

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FP_slomo788 — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 08:17:14 MST

@Sunjammer: Uncharted is 8-10 hours long my friend, like most Action/Adventure games out there. Why it feels so short is because it's so good, sort of like why American Gangster seems to be only one hour long. And it has Achievements!

FP_slomo788

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FP_slomo788 — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 08:15:36 MST

@rlh445: Not only is your post wrong but it's an insult to the rest of the Internet, as it says that only these three guys have brains.

FP_slomo788

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Sunjammer — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 08:14:44 MST

@Mpalm.: All 5 hours of Uncharted?

Sunjammer

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Sunjammer — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 08:14:21 MST

I'm still surprised Sony can get away with dropping another PSP with actual differences in hardware spec. This isn't like changing the backlight and shell like with the DS Lite. There's no way in hell i'm buying another PSP at the asking price. What they are doing now with the old PSP is what MS did to the original xbox.

It's pretty insane actually.

End result is, count me out of this year-of-the-PSP. No, actually, Sony counted me out of it.

Sunjammer

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Mpalm. — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 08:13:02 MST

@Mr.Waffleton:

Oh boy, another "ps3 has no games" comment... man that's still funny! . . . really... still. *Goes back to uncharted*

Mpalm.

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Mpalm. — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 08:10:59 MST

@DarkNight_DS:

The psp does have some really great games. Disgaea, jean d'arc, wipeout, tekken, final fantasy titles, etc. etc. I'd say it gets as much play time as my DS.

Mpalm.

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rlh445 — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 08:10:55 MST

@PapaBear434: lol not to be a jerk PapaBear but I've only seen you, IrishNinja, and Witzbold make that statement. Oh....so yea, the whole Internet..sorry. :D

rlh445

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shinko — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 08:08:39 MST

piracy kills psp software sales.

shinko

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JonC — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 08:07:16 MST

@Deadeyereborn: That used to be the case. But it isn't true any longer.

JonC

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noliferuin (PSN+XBL) — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 08:05:06 MST

@Deadeyereborn: if you're into retro games and have a friend with a phat psp, get a slimline ;)

noliferuin (PSN+XBL)

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PapaBear434 — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 08:03:38 MST

@Mr.Waffleton:

Strange, I thought the internet more or less in agreement that the "PS3 haz no gamez!" meme was pretty much dead for all except the most ardent of loyalists.

PapaBear434

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zoesch — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 08:01:22 MST

@Deadeyereborn: So I take you like brain training and classic game remakes a lot?

Saying the PSP has no games is like saying the DS has no games of merit outside of Nintendo owned franchises and remakes.

zoesch

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Azriel101 — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 08:00:09 MST

@kennyd1: weird - all i got was links to 3 other videos - rainbow 6 vegas 2, soul calibur 4 and army of two

Azriel101

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Mr.Waffleton — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 07:58:57 MST

"I hope that Sony continues to concentrate more on the games and less on the peripherals for the device."

considering the way they've done things with the PS3 I wouldn't hold my breath on that.

Mr.Waffleton

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Deadeyereborn — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 07:58:14 MST

You know what sells DS's games. you know what the psp dosnt have games. If the psp got some GAMES I might get one but as it stands there is nothing on the system I want to play. I go where the games are.

Deadeyereborn

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kennyd1 — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 07:58:03 MST

Incidentally, can't believe they can't make skype work on the PSP-1000. Not that I care, I use Skype on my mobile, but it's just another example of screwing launch customers. A game I'd like to buy would also be nice. I've only bought 2 games for it in the last 2 years...

kennyd1

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motorstorm — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 07:54:46 MST

@Darkknight: GoW & FF are two major, AAA titles to hit this year, and I'm sure there are more unannounced titles to be announced. But I am talking about Playstation as a whole. I'm a gamer but I welcome all these great additions i.e. skype, remote play, etc. that add great values to the Playstation duo.

motorstorm

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kennyd1 — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 07:48:54 MST

When the video finished, where GT usually puts link to other videos, mine said "MOVIE 1" and underneath it said "here's where the long ass description of the movie goes, so verbose and clever blah blah blah." So weird! Happen to anyone else or just me?

kennyd1

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DarkNight_DS — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 07:46:58 MST

@motorstorm: The PSP has games news we haven't heard about?

DarkNight_DS

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motorstorm — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 07:44:07 MST

man, believe me, 2008 (and onwards) is the year of the playstations. good news over good news are pouring in and we're at the start of the year only!

motorstorm

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Fluffy22 — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 07:43:24 MST

less crap more games pl0x!

if it was smaller id use it for more stuff like a phone or mp3 player etc..

Fluffy22

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FP_slomo788 — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 07:40:42 MST

Come on. Make the LBP levels created on PS3 tweakable and playable on PSP, à la UT3.

FP_slomo788

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qBIRD — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 07:34:02 MST

looks like some cool shizzle..glad i bought my psp slim.

qBIRD

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kNZA — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 07:28:48 MST

Are they going to make a PSP duffel-bag to carry the device and its many accessories?

kNZA