Left 4 Dead Coming In "Late Summer" - Kotaku Comments

Left 4 Dead Coming In "Late Summer"

Chimhog — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 03:18:51 MST

Game is looking pretty sweet. Hope it turns out as good as TF2 did (God I cant stop playing that!)

I would say if you own HL2 on PC head on over to [www.zombiemaster.org] and give it a whirl. My brother is the creator of the mod and him and the team have done a pretty decent job.

It will at least tie you over until this is released.

Chimhog

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Toprem — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 14:41:45 MST

@Lotharian: Why the fuck would you play the game on the console instead of the PC? And Split Screen is made of fail and AIDS.

As for the summer release... GODDAMN IT RELEASE THE GAME ALREADY! I've been wanting to play this ever since they first started putting videos out for it.

PS: Zombies do not run, 28 Days/Weeks Later were not zombie movies.

Toprem

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Vegan Shinigami — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 14:03:55 MST

1) Re: all this slow zomibies vs fast zombies bull... LOL.

2) This game has the potential to extremely awesome. Fingers crossed!

Vegan Shinigami

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lordofsword — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 12:53:50 MST

@temporaryscars: so because the first mummies in films were covered in bandages and chased people through pyramids, that means they're that way in real life too, as opposed to dried up, hollow corpses?
As I said before, brain damage (in certain cases) leaves people with a lot of their human characteristics missing, including emotion, and is therefore one of the closest examples to real life zombies we've ever seen - it's the closest comparison along with rabies that actually exists. You still haven't given a single reason why someone taken over by a virus/brought back to life would shuffle along when they're basic instincts (the only thing going through their mind) is to kill.

lordofsword

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declanmacmanus — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 12:29:40 MST

@temporaryscars:
>yawn< this is boring. when the zombie apocalypse comes... and it is inevitable... i hope they leap upon you like rabid cheetahs and gnaw your face off, you wailing all the while, "how can you move so fast? you CAN'T be zombies!" :P

declanmacmanus

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amygdala — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 10:02:11 MST

For the record, I'm all for delaying a game until it's polished vice shipping a buggy game early.

That said, I'm rather interested in this one.

amygdala

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temporaryscars — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 08:14:22 MST

@lordofsword: The first zombie movies ever made had them walking, setting a precedent for what we know a zombie to be. The only reason running zombies came about was because film makers realized their movie had terrible dialog and not much to say, so to distract from them, make the zombies fast. And brain damage is a stupid example. People with brain damage can still exhibit emotion and communication. How is that the same as a zombie? Brain damage damages these things, but it doesn't completely impair basic human emotion.

temporaryscars

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Black Arts Viper — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 07:52:15 MST

yay! this game will come out 3 years later on the Ps3 with strange frame rate issues whenever the zombies open their mouths...

I hope my laptop can run it -_-

Black Arts Viper

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lordofsword — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 21:56:20 MST

@temporaryscars: they haven't been developed that way, the slow type of zombie is just the only one most films have used. Name one reason why infection from a virus or being reanimated after being dead for a few hours would cause someone to slowly shuffle along. It makes no sense that a soulless creature who's only instinct is to kill, would crawl along instead of sprinting, as their body would allow them to.
And brain damage is a perfect example. The centre of the brain is where our animal instincts are held, the front and sides contain memory, emotion, reason etc - everything that makes us human, and there are cases where those alone can be damaged. That, along with things like rabies (which I believe the virus in this game is similar to) that I also mentioned, are the closest humans have come to zombies, so of course it's a valid comparison.

lordofsword

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baberg — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 21:27:35 MST

What I remember most about this game is how Yahtzee summed it up in his small playsession.

"It seems that Left 4 Dead will be a most satisfying experience for people who want a tense, cinematic journey through a terrifying hell on Earth and equally for people who want to run up behind said people and go "Boo.""

You can count me among the latter, by the way.

baberg

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temporaryscars — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 21:00:36 MST

@TheIrishNinja (PSN), IrishNinja2099 (XBL): Those aren't zombies.

temporaryscars

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qin — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 20:36:58 MST

@temporaryscars: Very bad comparison, specific named character to generic type of creature. Apples and oranges, in the same vein you could generalize and say every human being is Indiana Jones, one human cannot for whatever reason be different from the other and cannot change or evolve over time. Jones could become a ninja in the upcoming movie by the way.

As for L4D, delayed way too much, especially since it seemed near completion in the video posted a while back. They really need another 6 months to finish it up?

qin

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diodegrey — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 19:01:37 MST

@diodegrey: same thing with vampires really. there's the dracula type that can shape shift and the ann rice type that stand around and cry alot lol

diodegrey

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diodegrey — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 18:58:17 MST

there are a lot of different zombies. even Romero's zombies have evolved from shambling target fodder to working together in groups and using things like guns. the remake of Dawn of the Dead had zombies that ran around. zombies that run represent a bigger threat and make for better gaming IMHO

diodegrey

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TheIrishNinja — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 18:34:53 MST

@temporaryscars: turbo-zombies do; see 28 weeks/months/years etc

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TheIrishNinja — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 18:34:35 MST

this was literally one of the selling points behind me getting a 360. i long for a demo.

TheIrishNinja

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temporaryscars — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 18:11:31 MST

Zombies, too, have been developed in previous films as much, if not more than Indy. And like you say, their development doesn't not include them running. You can't compare a zombie to somebody with brain damage. It's just not the same.

Look, if you tools want to play this game with running zombies, go for it. The fact remains that it's not a true zombie game. There is a universal accepted idea of what a zombie is. In 95% of the media out there, they're slow, they don't run.

temporaryscars

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lordofsword — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 17:51:42 MST

@temporaryscars: Indiana Jones is a character that has already been developed in previous films, and that development does not include him being a ninja.
A zombie is a human being with everything that makes them human removed, which is why someone with certain types of brain damage, rabies etc could be called zombies when they're left only with their basic instincts of survival. If anything, the slow zombie is the worst representation since the closest we've ever come to zombies in real life (ie rabies victims) act exactly like you see in L4D - no human/social characteristics and very aggressive behaviour.

lordofsword

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theharmfulspork — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 17:06:17 MST

Got to play this game a few months back at a convention in Seattle. I got in line 10 times. I couldn't get enough of it. Trust me, it's going to be good game.

theharmfulspork

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Zen_Lunatic — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 16:32:36 MST

The tears of those gamers crying because the zombies aren't exactly as described in their precious Zombie Survival Guide will make this game all the sweeter.

Zen_Lunatic

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temporaryscars — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 15:08:03 MST

@tehblacksheep234: Ok, well if that's your reasoning, if they ever make another Indiana Jones game, I guess they can give him ninja like abilities, since you know, he doesn't exist in real life, WHY NOT?! Or how about they make another vampire game, but, get this, they can walk in the daylight! Why not? I mean, they don't really exist!

Give me a break.

temporaryscars

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Huxle — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 14:40:59 MST

I'm actually really looking forward to the PC version of this game. It looks awesome

Huxle

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MrSatan — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 13:59:43 MST

Maybe we will get this by next year. Seriously, they have delayed this game so many times that it is ridiculous. I guess we are talking about Valve, the masters of taking their time.

MrSatan

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FancyRat — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 13:06:05 MST

For all the people who are like "Zombies don't run, DURR!": First off , zombies do not, in fact exist, so any and all 'information' on them is liable to change anyway. Second, shut up. Get a life. Seriously, "the development team doesn't know a zombie from their asses."?

FancyRat

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Pornosaur — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 13:04:53 MST

This is definetly a 360 purchase for me, with the great job Valve did with the orange box I have high hopes for the pc to 360 port. It's going to be so much fun killing zombies with 3 friends on xbox live, if it's working by then :P

Pornosaur

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temporaryscars — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 12:38:18 MST

I'll probably pass on this game. I could probably live with fast zombies if the gameplay were good enough, but I see they introduce these mega zombies with muscle mass and tumors. That right there kills it for me.

temporaryscars

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Gouki4u — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 12:31:49 MST

@temporaryscars: Ah I see. I admit I have this knee jerk reaction sometimes when I see people referring to stuff out of the ZSG like it is a real reference source.

Yeah people without military training are going to be bad shots in high stress situations, and sometimes even people with military training are subject to the same effects.

That said, I've always found the shaky hand approach to shooters extremely annoying.

I prefer slow zombies myself, by fast zombies seem to be in style these days, or something.

I'm still really looking forward to this game.

Gouki4u

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temporaryscars — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 12:19:49 MST

@Witzbold: Seems like adrenaline would just make the problem worse.

@Xiedo: Bullshit. That is all.

@Gouki4u: I was referring to the impact that stress has one your aim in regards to the book. Anyone who says they could calmly aim and shoot are either full of shit or a Navy Seal. My money is on full of shit.

temporaryscars

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Gouki4u — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 12:13:21 MST

@temporaryscars: The Zombie Survival Guide is entertaining, but not exactly a repository of accurate knowledge. Obviously the zombie stuff is made up, but I speak of the author's bashing of the M16 based on information as old as the Vietnam war, and ignoring the fact it has largely been replaced by the M4.

On topic: Having to wait until August for Left 4 Dead is going to make the summer gaming doldrums even more excruciating than normal this year. I need a new hobby for the summer months.

Gouki4u

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Xiedo — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 12:13:13 MST

Hell no, my hands wouldn't be shaky! I would be nailing them between the eyes with pool darts, doing the limbo between their legs and tugging at their zombie faces.

Whoever is scared of slow zombies belongs in a Romero movie. I mean, I would have a fear that eventually I would need to sleep or eat and there would be the crushing realization that humanity is forever doomed, but in a one-on-one encounter with some zombies, hell no. No need to be scared.

Xiedo

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Witzbold — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 11:54:42 MST

@temporaryscars: You would be suprised by the effects of adrenaline on a human being my friend.

Witzbold

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temporaryscars — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 11:50:17 MST

What about it? If you were alone and were surrounded by hordes of the undead, wouldn't your hands be a little shaky? Go read the Zombie Survival Guide ya jackass.

temporaryscars

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Xiedo — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 11:48:12 MST

@temporaryscars: "Damn it, I'm too scared to shoot accurately!"

GOTY! Er, back in 1997 or something.

Xiedo

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Alith — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 11:09:03 MST

This is going to be great. Valve effectively gave them the financial freedom to release it when it's polished as fuck, instead of when they ran out of cash.

Alith

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temporaryscars — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 11:06:40 MST

That's not true. If they forced the head-shot, made ammo scarce and implemented some sort of nervous system, where the higher your scare level is the harder it is to aim, then throw in a TON of slow walking zombies, then add a Condemned style melee system, and you've got a GOTY.

Further proof the development team doesn't know a zombie from their asses.

[shacknews.com]

temporaryscars

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Detha — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 11:01:21 MST

Looked good. I saw them scavenging a 70's looking house and Zombies running out at you from dark rooms, coming out of piles of the dead.

Face it - Running Zombies are just better for FPSers.

Slow would present little to no challenge.

Detha

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temporaryscars — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 10:57:16 MST

A lot of you make the excuse that since zombies aren't real, that you can just assign any attribute to them and it's A-OK. Well, it's not A-OK in my book. Since their origins in the Caribbean, the horror in zombies is that they're us without a single shred of humanity. They have no thoughts, no feeling, no soul. If you have zombies who can run and jump and climb, then you have a zombie with a thought process, a zombie who thinks, and it's that what makes them NOT zombies. The Dawn of the Dead Remake, this game, don't contain a single zombie in them.

temporaryscars

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Xiedo — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 10:57:10 MST

@Passa: Ah, but we already know shit-tons about this game if you look it up here at Kotaku and elsewhere.

I could go into greater detail but you should see for yourself. For one, I think there are five planned scenarios, including the standard city, suburban and rural scenarios. And each is supposed to be fleshed out into into four chapters and a final escape.

There is also a "director AI" that randomly and intelligently manages zombie placement and attack frequency.

Anyway, I urge you to look it up. Like I said, we already know shit-tons, people! This game will be God's gift to people who wish zombies were real and could run fast!

Xiedo

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Kayin — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 10:26:19 MST

damnit! i'm desperate for this game... i guess it means i can continue playing Team Fortress 2 uninterrupted a little longer.

Kayin

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lordofsword — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 10:19:07 MST

this was supposed to be out in early 2007, i actually started working on 2 maps for it not long after it was announced, thinking it was months away. by the time it's finally released, it'll have been delayed 18 months, and been a whole year since they started having public beta tests at lan events. i have no idea how these games can get delayed whole years over the course of a few weeks or months.

lordofsword

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OT79 — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 10:15:28 MST

PS3 version so far???any words about it? :(

OT79

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The_Phiphler — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 08:07:37 MST

I find the HL2 mod Zombie Panic: Source good enough fill my craving for zombie action, even if its just beta 1.0.

Go download it while waiting for this.

The_Phiphler

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GorbyGipper — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 08:04:01 MST

@Akomander:

Yeah, it does. It looks too sterile, not that it would much matter based on what I've seen and read about the game. It was weird in The Darkness (which I loved, by the way, Patton's voicework pushed that game from good to great, IMO), all those empty clean city streets.

GorbyGipper

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GorbyGipper — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 08:02:07 MST

Co-op + Zombies + limited resources + not the same damned monster closets over and over (Doom, COD, tons of others).....yeah, I'm on board.

Sucks to hear that the one time "late summer 2007" is now "late summer 2008", but if it makes the game better, it's worth it, I suppose.

GorbyGipper

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Eman311 — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 07:37:51 MST

I'm definetly buying this.

I'm a sucker for games with zombies in it.

Eman311

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Randomcitizenx — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 06:39:21 MST

Just wanted to add for all you Max Brroks fans, apparently a movie is being made of WWZ. Also this game has always been a stand alone release. That might change now, but I seem to doubt it.

Randomcitizenx

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Akomander — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 05:28:50 MST

That screenshot looks awfully similar to "The Darkness" :D

Akomander

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totallyschizo — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 04:39:24 MST

Hey Valve, an Episode 3/L4D/Portal 2 pack would likely make gamers worship you as a holy order and dedicate their lives to fulfilling your ever desire.

Just saying.

totallyschizo

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Cell9song — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 04:28:27 MST

This won't arrive in "late summer". This will end up as a major pack-in with Episode 3. Valve will be looking to repeat their success of the Orange box and they need a secondary anchor much as TF2 was for EP2. Theres nothing else they're funding that I'm aware of that is high profile enough to do that.

Anyhow, thats just my dumb prediction.

Cell9song

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StormTec — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 04:24:09 MST

@lynxij:

Not sure I remember it being bundled with Orange Box, and the first time I heard of it was that it was using the Source engine but was not a mod. Games can share the same engine and not be a mod, obviously.

I'll be getting the PC version, as that'll just be £30, at most, compared to the 360 version of £40+ =P

StormTec

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zlimness — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 04:23:06 MST

lol, what the hell... It was suppose to be out October-November _last_ year. What have they been doing all this time? Isn't this suppose to be multi-player only game, or am I missing something here? How hard can it be to finish up a multi-player mod for HL2? :s

zlimness

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lynxij — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 04:12:18 MST

Wasn't this originally bundled in with Orange Box? Will it be a separate retail title for purchase? I can't see anyone slapping down $60 for this. I remember it being strictly a HL2 multiplayer mod that went retail.

lynxij

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Komrade_Kayce — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 04:04:22 MST

@zombieistired:

Well done sir. Nobody else seems to have caught it, but I for one noticed your little reference to Day of the Dead.

Well done indeed.

Komrade_Kayce

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ArmyofJuan — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 03:52:54 MST

I would like to think of Max Brooks Zombie Survival Guide as the bible of zombie lore.

I would also like to think that zombies can't run due to their decomposing bodies, but running zombies sure are fucking scarier.

But running zombies or not, i love them and i look forward to this game

ArmyofJuan

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SlayerOfMuffins — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 03:09:22 MST

So this'll arrive just in time for Christmas '08 then. :P

SlayerOfMuffins

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dunetiger reads kotaku, seems pleased — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 02:56:15 MST

@TheCleaningGuy:

I agree. I'd love to see him use some of his father's pull in Hollywood to put his spin on PSAs. Maybe he could develop 1-2minute PSAs for some sketch show some day.

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TheCleaningGuy — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 02:47:31 MST

@dunetiger: I love both the Zombie Survival Guide and World War Z.
Max Brooks is absolutely brilliant.

TheCleaningGuy

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dunetiger reads kotaku, seems pleased — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 02:39:32 MST

@Kirbytheslayer: Proud Norwegian Defense Force Supporter:

Haha, I didn't think anyone else picked up that book. It's one of my favorites and it's so well done. Max Brooks has my utmost respect because he did something so ridiculous without breaking a single joke. I love it.

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Ping5000 — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 01:54:02 MST

I don't get why some people are taking my zombie argument so seriously. Pretty fun, though.

Ping5000

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Passa — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 01:47:38 MST

I can't wait for this, any co-op love is good love.

I do think it's a little strange though that the game is getting a standalone 360 release (ie not XBLA downloadable or something). How much content will it have to justify it as a full game? Guess we'll find out..

Passa

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Toasticus — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 01:34:47 MST

@Lotharian: Ah, bummer. Nice of him to reply back, at least. I'm still looking forward to the game, but splitscreen would just make it exponentially more awesome.

Toasticus

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the-red-terror — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 01:02:53 MST

What about the Jiang Shi of Chinese mythology?
Blind, OCD, hopping zombie vampires are pretty fucking scary.

the-red-terror

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Erwin — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 00:30:24 MST

@Raynre: You know plenty about Voodoo stories, but what you mention is forced slavery through the application of a toxin. Although it is probably the source of increased usage of "Thralls" as a term for zombies.
What we are talking about here is a game that has Living Dead (there, no "Zombie") moving quickly, well after Rigor Mortis has set in.
No connection to Haiti at all.
@zombieistired: I know that. I never said that either, by the way. I'm not an idiot, thank you very much. I would say the idea of living dead is as old as the day man became smart enough to have totally irrational fears.

Erwin

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zombieistired — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 00:12:53 MST

@Erwin211:

Max Brooks also did not invent zombies.
Like I said, there are different kinds of zombies out there....in the world...walking through the city of New York..like Stock Brokers..

zombieistired

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Kirbytheslayer: In-Kirby XMB — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 00:11:19 MST

@Erwin211: The Zombie Survival Guide is Pre-Dawn of the Living Dead.
It's explained in the movie that the Zombies in the movie rely on an alternate metaphysical energy that actually animates their bodies regardless of actual body structure or condition.
But, only certain types of Zombies can tap into this energy, and were just recently discovered, thus distinguishing between the two.

@Raynre: But, it's fun!

Kirbytheslayer: In-Kirby XMB

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Lotharian — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 00:06:43 MST

@Toasticus: Actually, I sent Michael Booth an email asking about split screen and a demo. He replied saying there will be a demo AFTER the game releases, and though he wants split screen, he says to not get our hopes up. I sent it to Kotaku as a tip but I guess they didn't find it tippy enough to use.

Lotharian

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corner — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 00:05:06 MST

I'm liking the L4D zombies. For some reason the Dawn of the Dead zombies do not scare me as much as the 28 Days Later zombies. The former have worked best for video games in the past (a la Resident Evil) but with the current gen of hardware, the latter is also possible. Come on, can any of you really say slow zombies are as scary as zombies that can run 40 mph?

corner

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Raynre — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 00:03:15 MST

Lets think about this for a second... you're all arguing about the physical properties of zombies, a completely fictional monster that has not and, God willing, will never exist.

That being said, if you believe that the term "zombie" only applys to Romero-style undead, you are sadly mistaken. In folklore, zombies are portrayed as innocent victims who are raised in a comatose trance from their graves by malevolent sorcerers, and led to distant farms or villages where they toil indefinitely as slaves. Zombies are recognized by their docile nature, by their glassy empty eyes, and by the evident absence of will, memory, and emotion. Part of their souls may also be captured by the sorcerers. Zombies can only return to the world of the living upon the death of their masters. Their are also heavy Voodoo influences where someone might concoct a potion and drug a victim into a near-comatose stupor, wherein they would proceed to wander around in a drunken stupor.

This doesnt even take into account the eternal hunger for living flesh or transmission of the zombie virus, which comes solely from Hollywood and its ilk.

In the end, a zombie is nothing more than a souless automoton with very little skill in the way of higher reasoning. Anything else such as running, feeding, virus transmission, etc. can be added at the author's/director's/developer's discretion.

Raynre

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Erwin — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:55:26 MST

@Ping5000: They're Zombies, not Human/Cheetah hybrids.
@zombieistired: Who says? Max Brooks: [en.wikipedia.org]

Erwin

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Dudemeister — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:54:12 MST

Quarter 2 and Summer are exactly the same thing right? In other words this is old news...

Dudemeister

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crapsh00t — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:52:43 MST

Perhaps I'm not reading this right, but it's looking like this game will be a year late.

I WANT this game to come out so badly, as so many Zombie Mods for HL are leaving me wanting. Zombie Master was good, but it relied far too heavily on the intelligence of the average Steam user (higher than an XBL member, but not by much.)

Dear Valve... please bring this game out in June instead of August...

crapsh00t

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tHieu! — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:34:18 MST

I can't wait for this. Zombies, can't get enough of em!

tHieu!

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Limey — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:33:49 MST

@temporaryscars: Hardly-- the main characters in 28 days later never fire a gun once-- this game is a first person shooter :P

And they can call them zombies if they want. Zombies do not, and have never existed, so there is no "true" definition of a zombie.

// By the way, I'm a huge zombie fan <_<

Limey

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Toasticus — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:31:22 MST

@Lotharian: Yeah, I was really hoping (almost expecting) for splitscreen on TF2 for 360 but it didn't happen. I haven't seen a Source game run splitscreen yet, so don't get your hopes up too much yet. If they do pull off splitscreen that would definitely make this a must-buy, though.

Toasticus

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Belain — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:29:17 MST

Besides Gabes outbursts and PR statements, I find Valve does very little that dissappoints me. I hope it stays that way, and I hope this game is fun.

Funny when i originally read about this game, I thought it was in some way related to the god awful Left Behind series of religious shinanigans. I am glad to know its just plain zombie killing.

Belain

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zombieistired — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:26:36 MST

@temporaryscars:

Did you create zombies?
Who said they can't run?

There are different kinds of zombies, like how they are different kinds of vampires.

Its like saying, zombies can't use a gun.
Tell that to Bub.

zombieistired

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Nexus6 — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:26:30 MST

You've got red on you.

Nexus6

Left 4 Dead Coming In "Late Summer"

Elliuotatar — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:26:28 MST

Why the hell do they announce these games so damn early? I thought the damn thing was gonna be out in a couple months at most. Don't they realize that they're killing their chaances at sales due to the hype? By the time it comes out all the hype for it will now be gone. Hell, Uuntil this week I thought it was a game made by Valve themselves and would have bought it solely based on that. Now I know different and seeing the art style looks so much like that new resident evil game vs the zombies in HL2, kinda turns me off to it. Fools!

Elliuotatar

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Ping5000 — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:25:36 MST

@temporaryscars: Pretend they all have the genetic properties of a cheetah.

Ping5000

Left 4 Dead Coming In "Late Summer"

Hiero Glyph — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:25:32 MST

I prefer 'Shaun of the Dead' zombies as they play videogames. The ones in '28 Days/Weeks Later' bite too much for my tastes. Either way though, looks like the Zombies will be the ones having the fun this summer.

Hiero Glyph

Left 4 Dead Coming In "Late Summer"

temporaryscars — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:19:20 MST

Zombies are dead. Rage infects the living. Does not compute.

temporaryscars

Left 4 Dead Coming In "Late Summer"

Mini_D — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:17:51 MST

@temporaryscars: Just pretend that they're rage zombies.

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Left 4 Dead Coming In "Late Summer"

Chewbenator — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:13:58 MST

Can't wait for some senseless zombie hunting! Remember kids, it's not just a sport, it's survival.

Chewbenator

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Lotharian — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:11:27 MST

Okay, well, it BETTER god damn have split screen multiplayer for a delay this long. I'm gonna god damn kill a fucking... Agh. They can't delay it this long and NOT have split screen. They can't. I will lose all faith in the gaming world if there is no split screen.

Lotharian

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temporaryscars — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:10:59 MST

@Ping5000: Well he's wrong. They should just call this game "28 Weeks Later: The Game." I remember seeing a video where the developers claimed to be huge zombie movie fans, but it's all bull because if they were, their "zombies" wouldn't run.

temporaryscars

Left 4 Dead Coming In "Late Summer"

Covert_Knight — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:05:02 MST

At first I had no interest, but it gets more and more promising, (I think they bought me over when they said zombie players can join in at any time to try to stop players and the mass amounts of coop fun to be had) however not many "great" games come out in summer, makes me a tad bit nervous about it lol.

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Ping5000 — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:03:23 MST

@temporaryscars: Zack Snyder says they can. Like Kenyans.

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Left 4 Dead Coming In "Late Summer"

ConfuciusMax — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:02:33 MST

Since valve bought it I assume there will be at least 10 more delays that add up to around a year.

ConfuciusMax

Left 4 Dead Coming In "Late Summer"

temporaryscars — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:56:26 MST

Zombies don't run.

temporaryscars

Left 4 Dead Coming In "Late Summer"

Mr_Friendly — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:45:38 MST

Actually it is by Turtle Rock which was recently bought by Valve.

Mr_Friendly

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altgod — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:42:33 MST

Shit this is Valve? I thought this game looked like it MIGHT be good, but now that I know Valve is behind it I'm way more optimistic.

altgod

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Drue — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:38:20 MST

Valve is quickly becoming my favorite developer.

Drue

Left 4 Dead Coming In "Late Summer"

Kirbytheslayer: In-Kirby XMB — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:34:53 MST

Huzzah.

2007 was missing a great Summer Zombie Game.

Hopefully, this will fill the void.

Pssstt...Capcom, we want a Dead Rising 2 for summer 2009.

Kirbytheslayer: In-Kirby XMB