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Xbox 360 Backward Compatibility Updates "Winding Down"

pvt.nelson — Sat, 10 May 2008 12:47:40 MDT

I would like to know if u could update The Chronicles of Riddick, Mortal Kombat Shaolin monks... Thanks

pvt.nelson

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productofapathy — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:48:17 MST

does no one care about tenchu anymore? I NEED NINJAS!!!

productofapathy

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ttyme — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 22:27:24 MST

Metal Gear Solid 2, thats all i have 2 say...

ttyme

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letsgo123 — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:35:30 MST

Must have Oddworld: Stranger's Wrath

letsgo123

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Kortir — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:21:16 MST

We still need Timesplitters. ;_;

It's time to split!

Kortir

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Billkwando — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:46:53 MST

It's bad enough that they screwed us on any possibility of Steel Battlion BC (what with no way to plug the controller in) but screwing us on Capcom vs SNK, Samurai Shodown IV, King of Fighters 02, KOF: Maximum Impact, SNK vs Capcom: Chaos, and Metal Slug is just ridiculous.

There are other huge titles as mentioned above.

Billkwando

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digiwalsh — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 07:12:27 MST

If you really really care that much about xbox 1 games, you'd still own the xbox.

It's time to let the 360 staff concentrate on the future of the console, you can pick up an xbox 1 preowned for the price of a new 360 game, so there's still plenty of options for people who have to play those old games.

digiwalsh

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Sloopydrew — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 08:12:10 MST

It ain't over 'til Oddworld: Stranger's Wrath is on that list. Period. I figured Chronicles would never be on the list (sadly), because of the lookalike remake.

Sloopydrew

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Jfebs — Thu, 10 Jan 2008 22:36:04 MST

I've kept my Xbox, because I feel it's better to play Xbox games on the original hardware anyway, just for the authentic experience without the fear of emulation errors. I might feel differently if I had an HDTV. But the one game I've actually wanted to play on 360, to bring over to friend's houses without the Xbox, is Brothers in Arms (and/or its sequel). It's still my favorite game for me and a friend to splitscreen online against another team of two. The strategy is deep, the combat intense. I've been waiting for the new 360 version, but if the gameplay is changed and I don't like it, I may never be able to play the game I liked again.

Jfebs

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CorpZ — Thu, 10 Jan 2008 15:46:45 MST

I really wish they would fix the BC for Thief: Deadly Shadows, having the flames, and moon light shown through walls is ridiculous. My original XBOX died a few months back and I haven't been able to play this game since I finally found a copy at a local Gamestop.

CorpZ

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taomaster99 — Thu, 10 Jan 2008 14:17:07 MST

meh

taomaster99

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jaffy — Thu, 10 Jan 2008 12:01:13 MST

oh yeah, and Spartan: Total Warrior

...and today was going so well - dammit! >=(

jaffy

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jaffy — Thu, 10 Jan 2008 11:58:58 MST

Yeah, this topic touched a nerve...

- Otogi 2
- Prince of Persia 3
- Chronicles of Riddick

Three of the greatest Xbox experiences out there get no BC love...

Oh yeah, and I'm still smarting over Burnout Revenge being ported to 360, instead of being made BC.. |=(

jaffy

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CommanderSheppard — Thu, 10 Jan 2008 07:08:24 MST

Dammit, COME ON! I have one game left that I can't play, and it's my favorite one! If I never play Deus Ex again I think I'll freak.

CommanderSheppard

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Chilly Hollow — Thu, 10 Jan 2008 06:51:25 MST

There are some excellent xBox games (listed above) which are not playable on the 360 and it's a crying shame. But this is not only a business decision, it is in line with Microsoft's policy of ignoring the off-line player. If they can't money off you on xBox Live, they don't care about you as a consumer.

I've always complained about how short-sighted this is on Microsoft's part. There are huge sections of the U.S. (not to mention the rest of the world) which have no access to broadband. Microsoft could make me even more loyal to their console if they would try to accommodate us. Think how annoyed you'd be if new maps or items for your favorite game were only available through Live and you were off-line! And of course multi-player play is inaccessible to me. Can you imagine how unhappy that makes me?

Rant over. Guess I'd better go check on whether the November compatibility is available on a disk yet. At least the last one was a lot cheaper than the previous one.

Chilly Hollow

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hdevires — Thu, 10 Jan 2008 05:51:47 MST

This is sad. I bought Mech Warrior and Metal Gear Solid 2 yesterday (they were $2.99 and $4.99 respectively, how could I say no?) before checking backwards compatibility. Ah well.

hdevires

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FyreWulff — Thu, 10 Jan 2008 04:26:56 MST

They need to come back and fix Halo 2' emulation so that I can play a map online that I paid 12$ for, thankyyouverymuch.

FyreWulff

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cindersphere — Thu, 10 Jan 2008 02:06:06 MST

No stranger wrath. Man this totally suck.

cindersphere

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MCFarley — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 23:46:32 MST

I'm still waiting on X-Men Legends 1 and 2 to get BC.

MCFarley

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Farron — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 23:41:42 MST

NOOOOOOOOO!!! :( They still need to make 'Oddworld: Starnger's Wrath' backwards compatible before they finish.

Please add this title MS people!

Farron

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Exanity — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 23:08:26 MST

I am really disappointed in Microsoft. :( They promised BC, and so far they have not even begun to cover some of my favorite games. Advent Rising, Otogi 1 and 2, and ect. I guess I should just be happy that they got around to Phantom Dust. Well, if they are going to stop making games BC, they better work on an easy way to bring over old xbox saves, because I am tired of starting over every time I want to play a xbox game on my 360.

Exanity

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Sorwah — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 23:08:01 MST

Well at least the 360 received updates instead of the one update Sony released.

Sorwah

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kylenalepa — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 23:07:29 MST

I am required to post this in every thread having to do with Xbox 360 BC:

PLEASE FIX MERCENARIES.

That is all.

kylenalepa

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beem — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 23:05:40 MST

@FunkyJ:
The way I see it, all M$ published titles should be BC right off the bat (if not first priority). It is a bit questionable though. We've got a BC upgrade for Blinx (another M$ published & owned title) but not one for Vince (possibly the closet to an original M$ mascot aside from Master Chief or Blinx).

My instincts tell me that if VV's not included in the next BC batch, then M$ is salvaging it for the Xbox Originals. In any event, it's a good thing I still held onto the original xbox.

And to CUTRISS:
What are you talking about? All three Splinter Cell titles are BC on the 360. SC1 looks amazing in 720p.

beem

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Zunnoab — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 23:00:17 MST

So once the product is successful the commitment to quality ends? No thanks, though over the years I should have expected this based on how Microsoft works once it has a piece of the pie, I'm very disappointed.

Zunnoab

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Detha — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 22:58:25 MST

Where's my Shaolin Monks? I wanted to play that so bad.

I mean, really, Fairly Odd Parents over Otogi and Popular fighters?

Detha

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FunkyJ — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 21:23:32 MST

@beem: YAY FOR VOODOO VINCE!

What I don't understand is Voodoo Vince was an MS developed and published game.

Surely the code is sitting on a server somewhere in Redmond and someone could sit there and make it work...

FunkyJ

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Erwin — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 20:11:05 MST

Hey all you boppers out there, where is The Warriors?
Can you count, suckas? I say the future is ours, if you can count. Now let's look at what we have before us. We have Armed and Dangerous next to Breakdown. We've got Half Life 2 right by Halo. Nobody is wasting nobody. That is a miracle. And miracles are the way things ought to be. You're posting right now on Kotaku with 100 members from over 15 countries. And there's thousands more. That's 20,000 hardcore members. Forty-thousand, counting sister sites, and twenty-thousand more, not organized, but ready to post. 60,000 posters! Now, there ain't but 465 games in the whole list in the BC list. Can you dig it?
Can you dig it?
CAN YOU DIG IT?
Note 1: I would quote Ajax, but that's pretty much an insta-ban. Well, maybe I could say, "Those lousy skinhead f****!" but MS doesn't like being called that.
Note 2: Where is Advent Rising too?

Erwin

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Ken — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 20:03:01 MST

I would say I don't care, but I sold my PS2 and I want Psi-Ops and Gladius real bad... :(

Never got a chance to play Otogi... maybe when the system is $20 used, but then again, it's just so BIG O__o

I only have 2 Xbox Original games: Ninja Gaiden Black and Panzer Dragoon Orta. Both great, but Psi Ops and Gladius would make me VERY happy.

Ken

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JasonTerminator — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 19:48:45 MST

Advent Rising
Area 51
Arx Fatalis
Beyond Good and Evil,
Castlevania: Curse of Darkness
Crazy Taxi 3
Destroy All Humans 2
Deux Ex: Invisible War
Dino Crisis 3
DOA: Extreme Beach Volleyball
Gladius
GunValkyrie
Headhunter: Redemption
Hitman 2
Kingdom Under Fire: Heroes
Legacy of Kain: Defiance
LOTR: The Two Towers
Mechassault
Metal Gear Solid 2: Subsistience
Metal Slug 4 & 5
Oddworld: Stranger's Wrath
Otogi 1 and 2
Prince of Persia 2
Psi-Ops: The Mindgate Conspiracy
Second Sight
Silent Scope Complete
Star Wars: Clone Wars
SVC Chaos: SNK vs. Capcom
The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay
The Matrix: Path of Neo
The Warriors
Unreal 2
X-Men Legends 1 and 2

Those are all the non backwards-compatible games I own for Xbox. Now, some I understand Microsoft not caring about (Mechassault, I'm looking at you!), but there are some serously big names on this list that I'm surprised are still getting snubbed. . I don't expect every game to get ported, but why give up? If anything, it would show that Microsoft cares more about goddamn backwards compatibilty than Sony does. And I support anything that makes Sony look bad.

JasonTerminator

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ca$h — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 19:19:16 MST

STILL waitin' for my hi-def METAL GEAR SOLID 2: SUBSISTANCE mother fuckers!

ca$h

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eastx — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 19:14:58 MST

es, like all those Cabela hunting games, the plethora of old sports titles, and cow plop like Catwoman, Pitfall: the Lost Expedition, and Trivial Pursuit Unhinged. :P

Trivial Pursuit on Xbox is actually great. Kind of a precursor to Scene It, but simpler.

eastx

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megahurtz — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 18:56:04 MST

Sucks, since there are still a lot of very good games spread through all kinds of different genres from the old xbox that either aren't BC or work poorly on the BC. Still, this isn't all that unexpected. For probably the last year, every time a new dashboard and BC update are looming, there are people rumbling the same line this guy is saying here. Most of the popular titles are working, lowered interest in BC games, titles not added by this point would require significant work, etc etc.

If this really is the end, we all knew it was coming.

megahurtz

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KaneRobot — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 18:48:39 MST

Pretty weak effort on MS' part on backwards compatiblity. Yes, they continued updates for a while, but half the games released were either glitchy or not worth getting excited about in the first place.

KaneRobot

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Devenish — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 18:45:22 MST

First I apologize if this comes off bitter but it's been a long time coming…

Microsoft sure it's fine go ahead and start winding down on backwards compatibility as we continue wind down interest in the Xbox brand. Because this is just one more thing to add to the RROD I've gotten, A refurbished replacement unit that sounds like a house cat died while giving birth in it, and the shady Live service we have been paying for that lacks dedicated game servers on our own bandwidth.

So what is the new M$ slogan going to be "Jump Out"!?

Devenish

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dv8godd — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 18:45:21 MST

@spartan1308: It was, in a word, "tremendous".

Everyone I know who has played it sticks it in their top xbox games. It is my personal favorite xbox game, hands down. If you've ever played Oddworld games and enjoy FPSs, you owe it to yourself to find a way to play it. That it got overlooked is, to me, on par with lackluster sales of Beyond Good and Evil and Psychonauts as the biggest sins committed by last gen's gamers.

And Lorne Lanning, Co-Founder and Creative Director of Oddworld... very smart guy. I've heard him speak about some stuff he's got on the horizon... could be very cool for the industry as a whole.

dv8godd

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Nickatiah — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 18:24:48 MST

damn M$ for not doing SvC Chaos and while im at it damn SCEA for not bringing it to the states in the first place.

Nickatiah

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Darkest Daze — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 18:15:57 MST

So Otogi and Beyond Good and Evil aren't wanted because they aren't online....huh?

Darkest Daze

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Cornerb0y — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 18:07:13 MST

I STILL WANNA PLAY ALL MY SNK GAMES AND OBSCURE ON 360 DAMN IT! GET WORKING ON THAT SEXBOX!

Cornerb0y

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munkah — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 18:01:07 MST

For every multiplatform xbox game that doesn't work on 360, we can always good search for the ps2 or gc version and play it on PS3 or Wii. I just want Breakdown fixed for PAL consoles, it crashes when you press a button.

munkah

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KEELr — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 17:54:45 MST

Then ffs get Rallisport 2 out on "Originals".
It was the best racing game last gen, and It still looks better than most games today.

KEELr

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FellTheDabus — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 17:41:46 MST

Desperately wanted to see Otogi there :(

FellTheDabus

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Big World — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 17:38:31 MST

[begin explaining how backwards compatibility for most consoles, the Xbox especially, is increasingly unnecessary over time]

Blah. Blah blah blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah.

Blah blah blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah blah blah. lah blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah.

[end explanation]

Big World

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ectogamut — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 17:36:38 MST

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okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under) — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 17:35:39 MST

People need to save this awesome whining and moaning and petitionize (is that a word?) this stuff! I'm sure Microsoft is still willing to bend over backwards to please if they see enough people are interested. The tone of the statement sounds like they may still have one more load to blow so people can take their chances and wait or be (proactively) vocal to the right people in hopes they might listen.

okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under)

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Nobuyuki — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 17:31:53 MST

Still no Otogi, the only two XBox games I still own. Other than Steel Battalion, but I'm not gonna hold out hope on that one.

Nobuyuki

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Justcrim — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 17:24:54 MST

Rallysport Challenge 2 was a large seller!!! Way more then Sneakers anyway!!! Gah, sometimes I just think these people dont know what they are saying...

My point is still the same, I WANT RALLYSPORT CHALLENGE 2 ON MY XBOX 360! (NFL Fever 2004 would be cool too since I still play that on my Halo Edition Xbox)

Justcrim

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ConstantCupcake — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 17:22:59 MST

Well damn. I actually really wanted to replay Riddick but didn't think to check it's BC before giving my old box away .

ConstantCupcake

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Spartan1308™ — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 17:21:10 MST

@dv8godd: I saw that game on Amazon a couple months ago and went searching only to find it wasn't BC. That is the only game that I know of right now that I'd really care to see added to the BC list. I never played it, but it looks great.

Spartan1308™

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Rohsiph — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 17:19:52 MST

I'm pretty surprised, but maybe I shouldn't be . . . have copies of Gun Valkyrie and Sudeki I'd like to get around to that I bought after my X-box died, assuming they'd eventually go BC. Sudeki merely because it's pretty much the only RPG on the console . . .

I suppose I could live if they never got around to them . . .

Rohsiph

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Indy_aka_Rex — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 17:09:59 MST

I WANT THE WARRIORS AND BROTHERS IN ARMS, GOD DAMMIT.

Indy_aka_Rex

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Mr.SithNinja — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 17:08:43 MST

@IAMELEVENEIGHT

I got mine on the "second wave" shipments (60gig no Talledega Nights) a few months after launch so that would explain it.

Mr.SithNinja

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Triple07 — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 17:00:06 MST

...Timesplitters??? Cmon the fourth one is coming out and your not going to make 2 and 3 backwards compatible?

Triple07

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Sorwah — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 16:54:39 MST

I expect a future update. After each update we continue to hear from Microsoft saying they are looking on stopping it. Then a few months later comes an update. It's becoming the boy who cried wolf.

Sorwah

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JohnnyHundo — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 16:54:19 MST

I'd like to see more games become BC (all preferably) - but really it's okay if it doesnt happen, because MS owes us nothing.

I am glad I hung on to my XBOX 1 though - because I still have a few games to get to on that system.

Warriors, PoP2/3, Dreamfall, Advent Rising... whew... and a few others... Who am I kidding though really - I have too many games as it is now - and getting the 60GB PS3 didn't help - as I'm wading through a pile of never before played PS2 games - currently FFX. Which is J-pop-licious.

JohnnyHundo

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DaveB — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 16:53:16 MST

Fucking Zyananide please. Oh and Capcom classics collection.

DaveB

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Billkwando — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 16:45:15 MST

WHAT THE FUCK? SNK NAO!!!

Billkwando

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Zeb — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 16:25:25 MST

Man, Oddworld: Stranger's Wrath was practically the only Xbox Original game that I really wanted to get a chance to play.

Come on Microsoft, you know we want it.

Zeb

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SAKY — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 16:23:40 MST

Ass rape from MS. Again!

I'm sure the thinking here is "hey we can sell the full games for $15 on the marketplace. Why let them play for free? also, we won't have to spend money developing software emulation!"

Brilliant!

But hey, we got 450+ games out of it, that ain't bad.

SAKY

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RPGZero — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 16:23:39 MST

Forgot to mention that as for new titles all I'd really like that isn't there is Prince of Persia: The Two Thrones.

I'd like to see all 3 PoP games, and BG&E added too but I wouldn't play them since I already did. TTT is pretty much all I have left I still want to play that isn't already supported. Oh well I'd like to play Merc too but can't because of how its impossible with the crash bugs in it.

RPGZero

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Qube — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 16:20:13 MST

My anger over lacking BC has wained over the years. Right from the beginning, I really wanted Oddworld Stranger's Wrath, but I've come to accept it's not going to happen.

I think the best thing they can do now is stop going vertical (no new additions) and spend some time going horizontal (fixing existing titles). For example, I still can't get past the 3rd level Panzer Dragoon Orta (PAL).

My original Xbox is working fine, so I upgraded it as much as possible by getting component cables (for progressive scan), an optical audio cable (for 5.1) and a Logitech wireless controller.

Even without upscaling to my TV's native res (1360x768) like the 360 does via VGA, you'd be surprised how good the original Xbox experience can get... assuming you have room for the behemoth under your TV.

Qube

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RPGZero — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 16:18:13 MST

Fix Mercenaries 1! The game is barely playable with all the bugs and crashing! Grrr, knew I should have bought it for PS2 instead.

RPGZero

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TearsandScreams — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 16:12:12 MST

@htd: mostly I concur. However there is the occasional hard to find gem. I managed to get Dreamfall for £15 on ebay, been looking for that for ages. And had I not found it I would have downloaded if it was available.

TearsandScreams

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FanDam — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 16:11:47 MST

I still have my Xbox, although honestly I expected RalliSport Challenge 2 to be playable now.

FanDam

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captain_dl — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 16:02:03 MST

What a bunch of crap!!! The only game I held on to was SSX On Tour and it never made it to the BC list. I guess I'll be trading it in now. The whole thing is they will be releasing games over the Xbox Originals now and want us to pay for them again. Crap I tell you!!!! C R A P !!!!!!!

captain_dl

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kruador — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 16:01:37 MST

I own the original Halo: Combat Evolved from when I got my original Xbox. On the whole it's nicer to play on the 360 (due to the better controller - the minor changes from the S are worthwhile) but there are still some horrible laggy areas, like when you first go out into the pyramid/ziggurat area on Assault On The Control Room. Suddenly it drops to about 10fps, not what you want when you have a pack of Covenant heading towards you with Ghosts, Banshees and a Covenant Tank all in the same area.

Wonder if they've fixed the lagginess on 99th Street, and the flickering legends on the map, in JSRF yet? Nope. Oddly, Skyscraper District and Pharaoh Park seems to play OK.

As for why there's no hardware BC and no mini-original Xbox: Intel own the rights to the Pentium III-M processor used and wouldn't do a die-shrink for an end-of-life product, nVidia owned all the rights to the GPU and wouldn't die-shrink that either (plus they already had a big falling-out over royalty payments). The 360 uses a processor design that could be licensed (IBM PowerPC, 3 cores, two threads per core) but isn't compatible with x86 code used in Xbox games, and a GPU from ATI also not instruction-compatible with the Xbox GPU.

kruador

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BTS.WRKNG — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:55:33 MST

1. THE WARRIORS. Am I the only one who likes this game enough to replay it multiple times? This is the main reason my Xbox is still connected to my system.

2. BEYOND GOOD AND EVIL. I know I'm not the only one who wants this one.

3. I bought several of those arcade/8-bit compilations also, including the Capcom one, the Taito one, and some others I'm probably not remembering. The Atari Anthology made the list; why not the others? So that we can buy all those old games AGAIN as individual XBLA downloads?

How much would it realistically cost Microsoft to do those 300 one-off titles? Am I expected to believe that they CAN'T AFFORD IT? To abandon this effort now would be a huge insult to people who built up an Xbox library and then upgraded to the 360 based at least in part on the promise of ongoing backward compatibility updates.

BTS.WRKNG

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ImmovableShark — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:52:56 MST

This is completely selfish, and I don't know how many others care, but where the ---- is my Metal Gear Solid 2 on here?

ImmovableShark

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eelmonger — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:52:47 MST

There's a tiny voice in the back of my head that tells me "Someday they'll get Steel Battalion working...somehow." I really want to believe him, but I'm probably just going to have to buy a cheap, used Xbox and save it for when my current one dies if I still want to play it in a few years.

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jihadjoe343 — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:52:46 MST

The only game that I used the BC for was Halo 2 so I'm not really sad or surprised that they're stopping releases. Sure, this'll probably piss a few people off, but if you're so determined to play old games it'd probably be best to keep your old systems or find a cheap used one.

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EvoAnubis — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:48:59 MST

Personally, I see the whole BC thing being less and less of an issue. There are so many great 360 games out right now, why do you guys care anymore?

My 60GB PS3 is fully BC, but the only games I really play using that are Fire Pro Wrestling Returns and the occasional game of Prince of Persia or Second Sight.

Mostly, I play my "this-gen" games. And the 360 has WAY more of those than my PS3 does, so . . . again, what's the issue?

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Rodent — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:48:24 MST

@elpierce:

The thing about BC is it's nice to be able to play the older games once in a while. And without BC there are very few options for enjoying the classics...unless you wanna re-purchase them from a download service such as XB Originals.

Think about movies. What if you bought your favorite movie, watched it a bunch of times, and then suddenly they released a new dvd player that didn't play your movie. The only other way to watch that movie again would be to re-puchase it either for the new format or through a download service.

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Cutriss — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:46:45 MST

I guess this piece of news fell by the wayside some time ago, but it was officially stated that Chronicles Of Riddick: Escape From Butcher Bay is *NOT* coming to BC because the publisher is remaking the original game with a bunch of new content to release it on the 360, and they didn't want the existing game's sales/existence to cannibalize the new game.

As for some of the other titles, you will never see MechAssault, 007: Agent Under Fire, or Splinter Cell (among a few others likely) on the 360 because those games have buffer overflow exploits in their savegame handling, and preserving those exploits could provide an attack vector into the 360 itself.

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RetroBob — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:42:56 MST

Not acceptable. There are so many more games people want to play.

RetroBob

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Rodent — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:40:49 MST

I would love to see the 2 Brothers in Arms games and OddWorld Stranger to be added to the BC list. Please.

Rodent

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elpierce — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:40:46 MST

I've never understood people's demand for BC in any format (PC, PS, Xbox, Nintendo...)

I don't want a CD player that plays records. That's why I own a record player. No company owes me anything.

elpierce

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PapaBear434 — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:39:42 MST

It makes sense. I mean, with Sony putting it on the back burner, it makes sense for Microsoft to back off support of it. Why waste time doing it if it's not important anymore?

We're well enough into the next gen to stop worrying about it so much.

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theflux — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:36:01 MST

Kung Fu Chaos still doesn't work. WTF :(

theflux

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KeroseneClimax — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:30:11 MST

Don't care if Penello thinks SNK games fall into the "one-off title" Category. Give me KOF 2003 and SVC Chaos. I paid for them on the X-Box, I want backwards compatibility for them on the 360. I consider it selfish to not at least give a little back to those who stuck with Microsoft when everyone called their system a failure, Brick Box or a vacant void of mediocrity for frat boys. I bought Halo then, don't want a new one. Same applies for SVC.

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XbhaskarX — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:29:47 MST

BEYOND GOOD AND EVIL.

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dilpickies — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:23:47 MST

All I want is Kung Fu Chaos.

It sucks that this apparently is too much to ask.

dilpickies

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superbagman — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:23:43 MST

@dishwasher: Ah, I never owned a Xbox 1 but always wanted to play Mech Assault. So a month before the 360 launch I bought it assuming it would be backward compatible since it was one of the first Xbox Live capable games... boy was I wrong. Let's cross our fingers!

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Swift_ — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:21:56 MST

Now that these brainwashed fanboys will pay $10-15, why allow them to use their old discs? Good move... may as well milk your loyal customers for all they're worth.
Wait, isn't that why consumers resented Sony in 2006? Ooops.

Swift_

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lordargent — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:16:44 MST

Prince of persia 1 (backward compatible with minor issues)
Prince of persia 2 (not)
Prince of persia 3 (not)

/also, psi-ops is not BC either

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OniBeowulf — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:15:34 MST

it kinda sucks when you check the list and see that Marvel vs Capcom 2 is on the list so you find it cheap ($50 I couldnt find it any cheaper) and you get all excited to play it again to find out your characters look like pixel barf...it kinda rains on the parade. I just wish they would fix what they started.

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GameraTheGreat — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:13:43 MST

OTOGI!!!!! They had better not pass on Otogi 3. That game would give them mileage in Japan.....I am quite upset that there has been no mention of a next-gen version.

GameraTheGreat

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ShaggE — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:09:50 MST

@Capt-Fury-: Ah, haven't tried that one. Just going by what I have tried.

Good thing I'm an MK guy, since both Deception and Armageddon run perfectly :D (although some of the unlockable videos in Deception flicker like strobe lights... so heads up to any epileptic MK fans :P)

ShaggE

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DaiMacculate — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:09:42 MST

@Guild_Navigator: Yeah, I loved Otogi. I'd probably buy a PS3 if it got Otogi 3, since Microsoft/Sega/FromSW don't seem to be in any hurry to put one out for 360. It was the first game I got with my XB1, and when I realized it wouldn't work on the 360 I almost wanted to cry.

Also, I miss my random crappy XB1 fighting games like SVC:Chaos. Damn, I may just have to buy another XB1 at some point ;)

DaiMacculate

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TheOtherBarber — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:06:05 MST

my favorite 3 Xbox games still need to be on there: Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay, Oddworld: Stranger's Wrath, and Midnight Club 3: DUB Edition Remix. I'm asking for 3 measly titles Microsoft - make the repayment for downed Xbox Live a backwards compatibility update consisting of all original Xbox games, which i think would make ALL Xbox owners happy instead of a free Xbox Live Arcade game.

TheOtherBarber

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C.Fury! I survived the HD movie format war — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:04:49 MST

@ShaggE:

Marvel vs Capcom 2 says hi....

C.Fury! I survived the HD movie format war

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0ldb0y — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:04:28 MST

Too many new and current gen titles beating down on our wallets for me to worry about obscure titles of the past. Forward march!

0ldb0y

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Marcus117 — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:03:04 MST

@Okari: The 40GB has none... that's more than... well, it's not much at all really is it. Especially when you consider that it's the only version currently available in the UK.

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parad0x360 — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:01:46 MST

@P.N.03: like he said those are 1 off games. Meaning they work because of work that was done for a top tier title. They didnt mean to make it work it just does which means it probably didnt use much if any of the xbox's custom feature set.

There are some games I wish were on there but..i find even when a title i really wanted to play is put on the list, i play for maybe 20 min and then leave it alone.

What i do is leave the xbox cables connected and just put the xbox away. The cables are hidden behind the tv stand and my tv has plenty of component inputs...which doesnt really matter anyways since i use hdmi for my ps3 and 360.

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beem — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:01:28 MST

Well I do applaud them for their efforts with the BC. Considering that when they originally announced back at E3 05 that the 360 would be compatible with the top selling Xbox games only. They're doing a lot more than they had originally bargained.

Still, it would be nice to play some Voodoo Vince, Riddick, Otogi, and BG&E in 720p glory.

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Smeer516 — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:59:30 MST

Bummer, was still waiting for Silent hill 2 to join the BC roster.

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Hiero Glyph — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:59:10 MST

@dishwasher: Agreed. Although I would settle for an Xbox Original title for MechAssault as well. I still have my disc in hopes that one day I can pink-button with my Kit Fox again.

Hiero Glyph

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Sekiria — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:59:02 MST

@obijuan71:

Amen! I'm tired of of these messed up "BC" games like MvC2 and KoF 2002/2003 (where one plays sort-of and the other not-at-all.)

If they want more playing the BC games, advertise the fact that you can a bit more. As of now there are still plenty of good games that are not on the BC list. Hell, I still say if they would go back and add achievements to the Xbox1 games (say 500 a pop, maybe 1000 for the really good ones) that you would see a slew of people buying & playing the games again.

Sekiria

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HootieMac — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:58:21 MST

Alls I needs is Gauntlet: Dark Legacy and I could pack my original X-box aways. DAMN YOUS!!! (shakes fist)

HootieMac

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ShaggE — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:56:40 MST

Disappointing, but at least what IS emulated is emulated well.

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webrunner — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:56:11 MST

So no SVC Chaos? :(

webrunner

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PlaidNinja — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:55:42 MST

LAME.

Hows about making a mini xbox 1 like the slim ps2? Not all of us live in cavernous mansions with enough room to hold every damn giant console out there.

PlaidNinja

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Walker — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:54:58 MST

@Okari: And theres a huge reason why it has 95% BC. Although it uses some software BC it still has some hardware left inside of the PS2, its not full hardware BC but does have some. The 360 uses FULL software BC. Thats why the 40gb PS3 will never support old PS2 games because it has none of the hardware at all and Sony will never do full software emulation for 1000+ games. I think its damn good that Microsoft even did it.

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Psychotext — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:53:49 MST

@Okari: If you count games that will load... yes, but not if you actually plan on finishing the game or having sound / fmv. You know, minor things like that.

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skullivan — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:53:25 MST

Still waiting on the two Capcom Classics Collections to be made BC but I guess they'd rather cash in on those titles one at a time...

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rickyyo — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:52:27 MST

@Okari:

But when Microsoft says they are playable they are when Sony says it. It's quite frankly "oh yeah half assed" or "yeah the menus don't work".

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Maldron — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:51:14 MST

@Okari: Yeah, but if you average it out with the 0% of the 40G that's like... 49% BC. And that's crap, I tells you, crap!

Just doing it before somebody else does.

Maldron

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DARTH_TIGRIS — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:50:24 MST

@duderdude2:
I LOUDLY second that: WHERE'S OUR BEYOND GOOD AND EVIL???!!!

DARTH_TIGRIS

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Crosswayboy — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:49:53 MST

It would be nice if they added the original Splinter Cell on there before they call it quits, but overall I'm satisfied. Thanks, MS!

Crosswayboy

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Okari — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:46:37 MST

@iameleveneight:

The 80GB has 98% BC. Thats more than the 360 will ever have.

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iameleveneight — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:44:39 MST

@nutmaniv:
Its got to do with the liscensing for the graphics system if I remember correctly. The original Xbox used Nvidia technology and would have had to liscense it for use in the 360 as well. The BC bypasses that.

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htd — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:44:38 MST

as most used xbox games sold at <$5 in ebgames, I wonder why people want to waste their precious little xbox360 HD space and download XB origins.

htd

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Spiffyness — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:44:32 MST

@dv8godd: AGREED. That's one of the best games on Xbox and one of the main ones I've been waiting for (still have mah Xbox, but it r broked). Beyond Good and Evil I can do without, since it's on other consoles, too (though I have the Xbox one, so I can't say for sure how solid the other versions are).

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iameleveneight — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:42:54 MST

@SithNinja:

How old is that PS3? Because depending on the version, the reason your PS3 works so well is because it HAS a PS2 built in because they didn't get the software ready in time.

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NutManIV — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:42:40 MST

@SithNinja:

sorry for double posting here...

I believe the reason its hard is because there was some problem with the chipset of the original Xbox and something made it not compatible with the 360 which is why it had to do Software BC. On top of that, they have to write a new emulator for practically every game.

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4dSwissCheese — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:42:05 MST

Still a few straglers, but I've generally been satisfied with Xbox BC.

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Jay — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:41:41 MST

I was still hoping for Strangers Wrath and the Warriors to go BC...I suppose now all hope is lost.

Jay

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NutManIV — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:40:53 MST

Its winding down, but we will see more updates still. Every game that gets added to the Xbox originals will either already be BC or will be made BC because they both use the same emulation program.

Really I think most 360 owners would like to see Xbox BC support dropped. Wanna know why? The reason friends lists cant go over 100 is because original xbox games only supported up to 100 friends. Same thing with an integrated clan service and a lot of other features people would like.

NutManIV

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Dishwasher — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:40:51 MST

better not wind down before mech assault!

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dv8godd — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:40:17 MST

Oddworld: Stranger's Wrath needs to be in that list before the end or I'm gonna wind Penello down and teach him how to hold HIS breath. :(

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Mr.SithNinja — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:39:51 MST

Why is it so hard for M$ to do backwards compat? I haven't had any trouble playing any of the PS1 or PS2 games on my PS3.... Oh well at least KOTOR works on my 360.....

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josh924 — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:39:11 MST

That doesn't make sense; if they wanna keep adding downloadable Xbox Originals, they're gonna have to keep doing BC updates, seeing as how the Xbox Originals games run on the same emulator as BC games.

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duderdude2 — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:39:01 MST

Where's my Beyond Good and Evil?!

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Trochan — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:38:47 MST

That's a shame. They probably covered all the popular titles by now, though.

Trochan

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blackadvent — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:38:25 MST

Does this mean the BC Ninjas are being downsized?

blackadvent

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Dr. Steve Brule — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:37:48 MST

"For the most part, we've crossed off games that people want to play..."

Yes, like all those Cabela hunting games, the plethora of old sports titles, and cow plop like Catwoman, Pitfall: the Lost Expedition, and Trivial Pursuit Unhinged. :P

Dr. Steve Brule

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VicViper — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:37:16 MST

Hey, M$! How about making all the SNK games I foolishly purchased instead of just downloading the roms, backwards compatible?

VicViper

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mquest — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:36:59 MST

Crap...I wanted to try Otogi...

mquest

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scruffy, the janitor — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:35:52 MST

I wants RedVSBlues on my XboxsLives. That's it.

scruffy, the janitor

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obijuan71 — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:34:29 MST

Could you asK him if at least they are going to fix the glitches on the BC of Marvel Vs Campom 2 ???

obijuan71

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Guild_Navigator — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:32:46 MST

That's too bad. Otogi and Otogi 2 were the last two games I was pulling for. Oh well.

Guild_Navigator

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Nightshift_Nurse — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:32:32 MST

"Penello noted that, outside of Halo 2, internal data points to low numbers of backward compatible games being played on Live, with BC updates "not being downloaded that much anymore."

Because as we all know, the only game worth playing is the game that features on-line multi-player.

Nightshift_Nurse