rateoforange

so I'm gonna wait till my expectation drops a little before finishing it.

Yadamon

DigitalHero

Hanging Chads etc.

I call shenanigans and want a recount.

-Perros-

perros

kavits001

.haste.

Huxle

The Legend of Zelda Phantom Hourglass - DS (88.9%)
Uncharted: Drake's Fortune - Playstation 3 (90.0%)
Super Mario Galaxy - Wii (97.3%)

Now for the 360's big games this year.

The Orange Box - Xbox 360 (96.3)
BioShock - Xbox 360 (95.3%)
Call of Duty 4 - Xbox 360 (94.4%)
Halo 3 - Xbox 360 (93.3%)
Rock Band - Xbox 360 (93.3)
Mass Effect - Xbox 360 (91.2%)

and the 360 doesnt even have a GOTY nomination.....unbelievable.

p.s. I don't care that a 360 game won GOTY or not I care about the fact that a 360 game wasn't even nominated which is a fucking joke.

kgetz3

That's a fucking joke.

kgetz3

Dingo Devious

Oh, I get it. That's fucked up shit. That blatantly favors games from systems with one killer app because it's a "no-brainer" choice, so everyone has to vote for that. I love my Wii and all, but yeah, Galaxy was the "duh" vote. Huh.

Darthvinder

kidnicky

nice try ;-)

schnodder

Good job Kotaku guys. You have great tastes in my book :)

optimusprime

You get my point. It had major Odin Sphere from the shadows factor.

Swift_

What about Orange Box, or Crysis? XD

more of a console-gamer set website... XD PC gamers go and just talk about how much better PC games are, and don't participate as much. LOL

I love my consoles :D

MySoul7

Dead rising had a poor save system, very annoying bosses (e.g the convicts in the park) Otus always calling you which is extremely annoying too.
It was a fun, good game but no-where near GOTY 2006. Not even close.

Mario galaxy was quite easy but it's nice to have a fairly easy game that doesn't rely on extreme difficulty to lengthen the game (COD4 Vet modes inf. soldiers im looking at you)
That Luigi purple coin challenge was very difficult too. The most difficult star in the game probably.

Ouenben

I own all 3 systems + PC and a vast majority of my gaming time was spent on the 360 this year. To not have a 360 title on here is just.. bad.

And FYI - Uncharted is one of most unmemorable gaming experiences I've had in quite some time. At least Ratchet & Clank was fun.

d1gw33d

Your logic is incorrect. Arguably that's how it should have been done, the winner of each console against the winner of every other console. They didn't do that. They took the three games with the most votes and pitted them against each other.

Therefore, game systems that had a lot of good games were effectively knocked out of consideration. I man, Brian even commented on how interesting it was that the 360/PC weren't even in the running. There was a good reason for that.

Islandkiwi

perri

zymase

Orionz Dream

(games are denoted by letters)
normal way:
abcdefghijklmnopq- Kotaku chooses c as best

Kotaku's way:
Wii: abc- winner is c
360:defgh- winner is d
PS3: ijk- winner is j
DS: lmno- winner is m
PSP: p- winner is p
COMMODORE 64: q- winner is q

out of c, d, j, m, p, and q, winner is c. No matter what, if c is better than all the others, it should beat the best of the other systems anyways. As for 2nd, 3rd, 4th and so on, this method is not accurate. Let me know if something in my logic is incorrect.

Darthvinder

awkward91

Rzarekta

Hell no.

Eman311

Talk about out of touch.. especially considering this year saw the best releases ever (Bioshock, CoD4, Halo3, Forza 2, Heavenly Sword, Ratchet & Clank Future, Assassin's Creed, Mass Effect, Ninija Gaiden Sigma, Portal, etc, etc, etc)

thund3rstruck

execrationist

Gray665

Gray665

LedRush

Purple Dave

Anyone who played Uncharted knows it's got something that other games just haven't delivered this year, and it felt very refreshing amongst the other games out there.

keyrat

fragged_23

myshl0ng

Sure, Portal is technically a tiny game stuffed in with a box of five BUT it's FREAKIN' PORTAL.

I'm also glad to see that Kotaku stayed away from the canned GOTY response of "BIOSHOCK ROX MAH SOX" because...come on....lets face it. The game, while totally AWESOME was only -really- GOTY material up until about half way through it. Then it just became every other FPS shooter that was ever released. Except you had pretty water effects and plasmids.

Aurvant

I approve of the results of this, but the method does seem a bit weird.

Yin

Seems like this is all about hurt feelings. I don't understand how anyone who has played all the nominees can find much fault with the outcome. Hell, just look at Gamerankings and you'll see that SMG is rated as one of the greatest games of all time - but many would not even nominate it as the best of this year? That's just plain silly.

McBonk

Pornosaur

Mario Galaxy is one of the best games i've played for a long time. I loved Halo3, Crackdown and CoD4 but nothing can touch Mario for pure joy.

I do think I will have to pick up Unchartered though, I'm kinda foolishly waiting for it to fall in price though.

NecronomiconUK

Seeing as there is little else of quality on the PS3's roster, Uncharted had a decided advantage.

Meanwhile, xbox360 games had a real disadvantage, having at least 3 strong contenders to draw votes in the xbox category.

brent_w

I will say I like Mass Effect over Mario but that's only because I must pepper Mass love over any post about game of the year. I really like it.

Jooptang

Ampillion, Dayman. Fighter of the Nightman.

KeithCourage

goldwings

perdevious

goldwings

LostHorizon

"Halo 3 isn't game of the year material, etc."
"Bioshock is just a watered down System Shock 2/It's not as good as Half-Life, etc."
"Both of the above aren't as good as Call of Duty 4"
"Mass Effect is a great but flawed game, etc."

Maybe there really wasn't anything on the 360 that was actually worthy of being overall Game of the Year. I know from playing Phantom Hourglass and Uncharted that both were extremely tight, complete packages. And everything I've read about Super Mario Galaxy says the same. And in all three cases, criticisms similar to those above were either not levied with any frequency or simply not mentioned at all.

Nightshift_Nurse

dowingba

I was giving you an overly simplistic example, yet clearly even that went over your head.

Ultimately it is Kotaku's decision how they determine GoTY, I'm not here to say they chose the wrong games as GoTY...all I'm saying is their method of choosing GoTY did a disservice to other games that should have been considered as nominees.

Islandkiwi

OK Bioshock did compete. If you noticed SMG, Uncharted and PH were just the 3 games that tied.

RiouV97041

Pound my tom-tom

nordbyk

I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way. I probably like it more than you but still...I just don't understand why everyone loves it so damn much.

Guitaratomik

Which has more impact:

In a race between Nintendogs and Uncharted, Uncharted won GoTY.

or

In a race between Bioshock, Call of Duty 4, Super Mario Galaxy, and Uncharted, Uncharted won GoTY.

I'm not saying that Uncharted and SMG aren't quality games...I've played both of them. I'm saying that because the other top tier games weren't allowed to compete, it diminishes their victory.

Islandkiwi

And Uncharted over Bioshock? Over Mass Effect? Over Portal+Team Fortress 2+Half-Life Episode 2? I don't know. Even thinking about it objectively, I can't make sense of this.

Guitaratomik

nordbyk

Jest

RiouV97041

It appears that it actually causes some individuals physical pain when a PlayStation 3 game is actually acknowledged as being as good or better than anything on the 360 and PC.

I'm frankly surprised at the negative reactions to the two Nintendo titles, but let's face it, the 360 has been getting stroked so frequently that it's fanbase simply expects it now...whether or not its actually warranted.

Sour grapes grown in nourishing showers of bitter tears...

Nightshift_Nurse

It's not about the winners, it's about not being allowed in the race.

It's not about the 360, it's about quality games not even being considered for the title.

You're only as good as the games you're competing against...and frankly I don't know how warm and fuzzy you should feel beating out a Zelda game on the DS.

Islandkiwi

SpuddOner

decoy-b

MikeTheSpike

Storylines and graphics aren't the only important things about games, there is the small matter of the gameplay. Uncharted is fun. Mario is fun.

Crackman

RiouV97041

I'm not a huge SMG fan (I prefer R&C) but it has very solid gameplay which I've heard is important for games so I can see why it won.

I'm a little surprised no one has mentioned Rock Band for GOTY.

decoy-b

Samos42

Oh well. A bit more fair than Penny-Arcade's version I suppose.

Skychrono

Top 2 vote getters from the 3 Political Parties move on to the final (10 voters total, voting for their top candidate in each Political Party).

Republicans:

Ron Paul (8 votes)
McCain (2 votes)
others (0 votes)

Democrats:

Clinton (3 votes)
Obama (4 votes)
Edwards (3 votes)

Green Party:

Ralph Nader (9 votes)
others (1 vote)

-------
Results:

The presidential election will be between Ron Paul and Ralph Nader, as they were the top two vote getters with 8 and 9 votes respectively. No democratic representative.

Makes sense eh.

Moosebox

fonz

Exactly.

So to say Mario is chosen due to not having votes split, is well ... skewed.

Almost like a punishment for having too many good games (which is punishment on the wallet surely, bust still).

EnigmaNemesis

Witzbold

Toasticus

But it's a perfectly fine choice, and I presume that the Kotaku editors are satisfied with it... otherwise they wouldn't have posted the story.

Marlor

it's pretty funny now that i really think bout it. We are the one's who buy the system so that we can control an avatar in an imaginary world. But when we come to back to the real world the idea of the game / system starts controlling us. Then it comes in to a big my system is better than yours debate.

Developers fight each other with games. they make something to be proud of.

instead of fighting over games and systems we should work hard utilizing our skills for the world and just enjoy these games.

I mean games don't think about us anyway. They don't love or hate. I don't think companies care much either, unless the person they are paying someone to be a fanboy ranter. In which case they are messing with our minds. It happens with movies, so i've no doubt it happens with games.

i've been ranting for too long.

Just enjoy the games people.

kryzhal

Now choose two 360 games.

Which is more difficult? Limiting it to two titles means you're essentially splitting your votes where there's too much choice as opposed to consolidating it where there's no choice.

I mean, this isn't going to keep me up at night but it's something they could consider in future.

splines

I have played it and honestly I think Galaxy, Orange Box, Bioshock, Mass Effect, and Phantom Hourglass are all more original. Each sporting new mechanics, whether it be the spherical level design of Galaxy, the puzzle style and sheer humor of Portal, the weapon customization and plazmid system of BioShock, the all-stylus game/swordplay and amazing story of Phantom Hourglass, or the hugeness and freedom of Mass Effect...

Where is the GotY earning originality in Uncharted?

JimmyPageJun1or

Sunjammer

I just figured it was because the Kotaku staff liked console games more, but this makes absolute sense when you think about it.

The metric here is so skewed it's barely worth it. The PS3 and the Wii have a much smaller sample size of quality titles compared to the PC or 360, but they're weighted identically.

That doesn't make sense, guys.

splines

Come on guys.. Make your own lists on your own damn blogs.

Sunjammer

lol, Isn't that the truth?!

JimmyPageJun1or

"Let's make Kane & lynch the game of the year!" says Crecente rolling his fingers through his curly man hair. I bet they gave in to the absurdity of this and went with Uncharted instead.

WaterMedia

Stormrider

I'm currently playing through SMG and having a blast. Feel kinda bad seeing Mario get sucked into a black hole everytime I screw up in certain areas...hehe. Plus, hoping to give Uncharted a try sometime in the new year.

Blargorg

So basically I am saying the logic is flawed, where it picks the winner due to not having an overall plethora of games to "divide" decisions.

EnigmaNemesis

Mario was easy not to be divided on, because white honestly? What else besides that on the Wii?

EnigmaNemesis

phalanges

To even attempt to validate your selection process is pathetic. You're a smarter group than this, and I'm sure you knew that this would put any 360 game out of the running.

Good grief, I've always wondered who put Bush in the presidency for a combined 8yrs. Now I know...

jynxce

VPS

i am very surprised at uncharted almost getting GOTY. i figured that no one would let the PS3 get a game anywhere close to GOTY. great game. great story. great showing for the PS3.

jfx316

I agree, Mario and Uncharted are 2 good games, but in a year with as many high quality games as 2007, it makes me glad I only read Kotaku and don't have to actually decide on a GOTY.

BurkHalter

cmoody17

FoxHoundADAM

intentional misspelling of the word hate commonly seen in online forums and message boards

@Mongoosekun: Deep.

Kirbytheslayer: In-Kirby XMB

I find it refreshing to see a game like Uncharted on the list (though I sadly haven't had a chance to play much of it myself). So many other sites are putting out lists that could be compiled without even playing any of the games--just handing awards to the most hyped, advertised, or best selling games. In both the system specific awards and these finals, it feels like the editors have really played and enjoyed these games and put thought into the awards.

slacker164

I seem to be at odds with the gaming media as of late. I find that generally reviewers like games that remind them of PC games, and will reminisce about games such as X-com and system shock. They love games like Kotor, Oblivion, Half-life 2... all these games have a flavor very similar to the old PC games I mentioned.

I think these games are well put together but I have played all of them and found them unappealing. Even HL2, the first level where you are on the run was amazing and hooked me. But it took me most of the game to realize that I hadn't had any fun since then.

I am glad that Kotaku have given an alternate take on the games of the year for people that may share my tastes.

Astrofox

Now try reading all my comments, tool.

Yup, I did read all your comments (including your comment history). I'd put most of your comments in the realm of "intelligent", but that one definitely wasn't.
Referring to Uncharted as "Dude Raider" is about on par with calling Halo 3 "Doom 3 with all the red replaced with green". They're so different, they'd may as well be in a different genre.
Anyway, what sort of response did you expect your comment to get?

@FoxHoundADAM: Seriously in 5 years will you look back on 2007 and think "Man, Uncharted really was awesome?".

I think the people who played it would. IMO the only thing that could have possibly made it better is some sort of online or coop play.

Doshu

Mongoosekun

Quite amazing how much haet it builds up. Especially since I have no idea what haet is, or if it even exists.

Is it a liquid, solid, or gas?

PapaBear434

anyway, i dont agree with this and ive played them all. galaxy should appear on a list of the wiis games, uncharted on a list of the ps3s (dunno what else youd have on that list) but anything more stringent than platform winners renders the whole thing ridiculous.

red

They had a PS2 list.....

C.Fury! I survived the HD movie format war

My bad, I see in another post that you claim to have played Uncharted. But to you and Doshu, I have to say "Isn't this great?"

Different opinions. All good games. All different preferences.

I'm just happy someone is giving Uncharted some love, even if it is a runner up. It has been sadly neglected by most sites for other, more generic, choices.

PapaBear434

With your "logic"... oh never mind its like reasoning with drunken bums.

13sounds

Gumbydunzeeto

Witzbold

Only ones of those I've played are Halo 3, COD4 and The Orange Box. Sorry, but I'd take Uncharted over all of them. But then, I hardly ever play anything online.

Doshu

Have you played Uncharted? I mean, those are great games and all, but Uncharted is easily on par with any in there.

PapaBear434

rexor0717

Seriously in 5 years will you look back on 2007 and think "Man, Uncharted really was awesome?" .

Maybe you will but while I reallly like the game there are easily 3 games that rank above it on my list.

To each there own. Although Uncharted is easily the best PS3 game this year. Another polished game from Naughty Dog.

FoxHoundADAM

If I were to pick a side to be a "fanboy" for, I would have to be the PC. I have always loved games on that platform. But let's face it: This year was not a great year for it.

Crysis was to advanced for it's own good. Advertising it as "the game to melt your rig" scared a lot of folks off. And outside of graphics, it was little more than a capable shooter.

ET: Quake Wars was great for fans of the original, but a little complex for your average player. The average gamer wants something simple and easy to understand, like Halo. Quake Wars had far to many goals, objectives, and teamwork involved.

Hellgate had a lot of potential to revive the dungeon-diving fun of Diablo 2, but was released as an unfinished product with a pile of broken, crashing code. Hell, they just got it relatively playable with patch "0.7." Yes, you read that right. They didn't even release it with version 1.0, which usually signifies a finished product. It was released, and received a 0.5 patch two days later.

The PC just had a rough year.

As far s the 360 goes... They were a victim of their own marketing. Good games that came off as disappointing simply because all the hype pushed the subconscious expectations to damn high.

I mean, Mass Effect seemed like a capable, and very well done, RPG. I mean, it's the spiritual brethren of KOTAR, it has to be decent. And it is a great game. But with all the hype it received, people walked away saying "it was really good, but..." and were unable to pin down why they walked away underwhelmed.

But, Microsoft is selling plenty of copies of all the games, so I doubt they are in need of a towel to dry their tears.

PapaBear434

Now try reading all my comments, tool.

splines

Absolutely. There were some awesome games released on all platforms over the last year.

@PapaBear434: Oh, damn... Everyone is drilling me for my lack of common sense. That's bad enough. Then the big man comes in and has to smack me upside the head.

Thanks for rubbing in that salt, pal. Thanks a lot.

Well, you deserved it. ;P

@splines: Dude Raider HD?

Double-Ewe-Tee-Eff Kotaku.

Obviously, another tool whose more than happy to diss a game without ever having played it.

@Sunjammer: Another award from me:
"Innovation" is this year's "word that has to fucking die already".

I'm not looking for awesome innovation in games. I'm looking for complete experiences. I don't compare books by innovation. I don't compare movies by innovation. That's not how it works. I compare them by mastery of the technique. You start comparing music or any other form of art by innovation and you're stuck in a technical circle jerk/arms race that has no real end to it. There is nothing wrong with innovation, but it is NOT what we should be judging games by. "Stalker is more innovative than COD4". Whatever.

I'm torn between agreeing and disagreeing with you. The innovation in AC was great, but the experience wasn't. But I like to see people pushing the envelope.

Innovation can be greatly done in both books and movies. I'm thinking of Neuromancer, Momento and Go as good examples in those types of arts. It's the same thing with any sort of art form though. Dali, Escher, Beethoven and Mozart are all artists who innovated and made us richer for it.

But all of them still created an excellent experience in their work. And that's why they're remembered.

Doshu

Brian said: "After tallying all of the votes for the platform-specific Game of the Year awards I want through and looked for the one with the highest vote, the one that was, essentially, awarded the most points out of all of the games."

That doesn't work if you've got a lot of competition in your category. I'm not really seeing a lot of outrage about this, so I have to believe that yes, I am insane, and that yes, I am in the minority.

But the voices in my head still say I'm right...and who am I to ignore them?

Islandkiwi

FoxHoundADAM

But that said, there's been no other offering but the Orange Box that offered so much quality for so little.

You've got Portal (generally being regarded as one of the best, if shortest, gaming experiences people have ever had), TF2 (can you say epic multiplayer balance? Also, it's damn good-looking and funny as hell), and Episode Two (probably the best single-player FPS of the year, and that's when you put it up against the likes of CoD4 or Bioshock).

I think those three titles alone make up for the drag-factor of you also getting a bunch of other stuff, which let's face it is still the best game ever without all the new stuff.

I find it hard to swallow that an admittedly good action adventure game that rips a fair bit of it's inspiration straight from Tomb Raider and renders it all it glorious HD is really any sort of competition.

What I see here in the comments is a 'huzzah' from people who don't play PC games. I get that, and I get that the console-centric coverage of Kotaku far, far outweighs the PC side, but we're still talking about the most well-received expansion pack to the greatest game series of all time, bar none.

I'm not hating on Kotaku, but I'm disappointed that the obvious was overlooked in order to pander to the console demographic. Just my opinion, at any rate.

splines

this is the problem, people take reviews and other people's opinion to seriously...

so what If your favorite game was not Kotaku's GOTY...does the game become less fun?

I dont agree with Galxy as GOTY, but because of that Im not gonna whine to Kotaku for having a different opinion than me....

C.Fury! I survived the HD movie format war

Seriously, WTF. I would have assumed Kotaku editors would be smart enough to realize that this was a terrible idea and would receive a ton of backlash. The only reason I can think of for why they did this is that they assumed that any GOTY list would be controversial, so they made it as flame-worthy as possible without being obviously fake (like, say, Superman 64 as GOTY). If that is the case, then good show Kotaku. Good show.

labrats5

hoos30

What the heck was that suppose to be now?

PapaBear434

[beyondthefirsthour.blogspot.com]

hansamurai

DrunkRaba

Same here. While I still haven't played SMG, Uncharted is the best game I've played in years (on any platform). Even though I'm still playing (and enjoying) Oblivion, I'd say it's easily better than last years GOTY. It's more fun, has better graphics and a better story.

@CollapseControl: How good of a game is Uncharted? Better than Tomb Raider's best game?

Better than all of the tomb raider games I've ever played combined. There's just no comparison.

@Jesu: <3 Ban Mondays.

@patatc: I dont think it's so much PS3 is ignored as well. There simply arent enough quality games for it that aren't ports of 360 games. It's best games are all on other systems. It will have to have more than a handfull of originals to be recognized.

You're right that there aren't enough quality games on PS3, but the quality exclusives are much better than all the good x-platform games. In fact, I'd take Uncharted and R&C over any PC or 360 game released in the last year.

Doshu

qbix

Not at all. It just means that the games that they played and enjoyed are infinitely better.

Daimyo

I think Bioshock kind of escapes the whole comparison game for me; We all know it falters near the end and that the moral ambiguity is not as ambiguous as you'd think. But the core story of the game is often overlooked; There's something about this programmed built-to-order man who has never known happiness and what happiness he has known has been an illusion being faced with that fact, having to destroy not only one but two father figures to even have hope of something resembling family. The endings were short, but to me seeing Jack's dying hand held by the rescued little sisters really did something to me.

It's just sad and heartbroken stuff, the whole story is. Claiming Portal has greater writing (as many have) is just a testament to how people can accept comedy easier than tragedy; To me Portal is a great episode of a great comedy show, but it's not something that lingers with me. The tragic, epic and sorrowful is an emotional range tapped far more rarely in games.

Another award from me:
"Innovation" is this year's "word that has to fucking die already".

I'm not looking for awesome innovation in games. I'm looking for complete experiences. I don't compare books by innovation. I don't compare movies by innovation. That's not how it works. I compare them by mastery of the technique. You start comparing music or any other form of art by innovation and you're stuck in a technical circle jerk/arms race that has no real end to it. There is nothing wrong with innovation, but it is NOT what we should be judging games by. "Stalker is more innovative than COD4". Whatever.

Sunjammer

Skunx

silkylove

Weirdwolf

I can't wait for Halo 4, I hope they turn Master Chief into a heroin addict struggling with his abusive relationship with a Passive Agressive AI and the fact that his mom didn't love him...and that the entire game is in black and white, minimalist.

DaiMacculate

kidnicky

Also for the hookers and blow. But I suppose that comes with money.

PapaBear434

DaiMacculate

zorin2k4

kidnicky

kidnicky

homernoy

Its not like all this hate even works to persuade anybody, that I might understand. Thats why I respect PapaBear, he really just wants you to buy a PS3 so you'll play Warhawk, preferably with him/Kotaku clan but in general I think he honestly just wants people to enjoy games they may not currently, is what leads him to defend one thing or another. I'm the same way, and there are others, if you see us getting passionate in defending something its because we honestly want everybody else to like it as much as we do, not because we want to hate on every possible alternative to our preferences.

DaiMacculate

2NinjasTapedTogether

And I know I'm a great commentor, thanks.

Green-clad Gamer Dude

k3nji

Archaotic

Yeah, the complaint really doesn't hold weight anymore, considering they got the price point within $50 of the 360.

But hey, not the thread to talk about it right now. We risk taking this down a really twisty fanboy road.

PapaBear434

It'd be like having a team of six guys try to compete in the Strongest Man in the World competition against a bunch of solo competitors. Is that really fair?

Archaotic

Spiffyness

I can accept that. Especially the Tower Defense thing. Doesn't seem like a modified flash game should get that much credit. But hey, I never really played it.

Personal preference, and all that. The way I look at it is this: This site is a gaming news Blog, which implies there is a lot of personal opinion going into the stories. It only makes sense this would carry on to the "awards."

PapaBear434

splines

Seriously, any method that, despite the reviews on literally every other gaming site, gives a GOTY to Uncharted, is flawed.

Or wait, is it the other way around? Is every other gaming site flawed in its assessment of Uncharted and has Kotaku been gifted with supreme understanding of the gaming world?

I like this site, but I find your GOTY results to be beyond absurd.

Sandoz

k3nji

Archaotic

FP Shindokie

I agree that they're all fine choices. The only GOTY award I've disagreed with was when one notable writer chose Desktop Tower Defense, which I thought was one of the most pretentious things I've read in a while.

Would Kotaku's choices have been my choices? No. I've got a 4-way tie among Portal, Mass Effect, Call of Duty 4, and Bioshock. I could list the reasons why those games specifically appeal to me and why something like Super Mario Galaxy or Phantom Hourglass doesn't, but that probably wouldn't be too interesting.

Bishmon

Double-Ewe-Tee-Eff Kotaku.

splines

I just don't know why the double standard exists.

Welcome to the internet. Wipe your feet at the door, hang you coat in the closet.

PapaBear434

Your unwillingness to adopt a system does not negate the quality of a game. That's like saying "I've never driven a BMW or Mercedes, because of the price, so my Ford is better in my book."

PapaBear434

And yet when the games come out and you actually play them, they're technically capable and always quite good titles. They're not bad by any means, but the hype always eclipses the final product. That's not to say the PS3 hasn't had its derailed hype trains either, just look at Lair or Heavenly Sword.

But it just seems that with Microsoft games, it happens every time, but people are too stubborn to admit it. I just don't know why the double standard exists.

Archaotic

PatATC