Simple 2000: The Japanese Hardware Chart - Kotaku Comments

Simple 2000: The Japanese Hardware Chart

diginova — Sat, 29 Dec 2007 13:24:44 MST

Anyone know the total DS sales worldwide? I wonder how close it is to Sony's 120M for the PS2.

diginova

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Aegis: Gentleman mercenary for hire... — Fri, 28 Dec 2007 17:46:40 MST

Damn! That giant Nintendo Pac-Man is closing its mouth on Sony and Microsoft!!

Aegis: Gentleman mercenary for hire...

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Superstar90 — Fri, 28 Dec 2007 14:12:33 MST

MY SCOUTER! CRACKED! SUCH.... POWER LEVEL!

THE DS WILL KILL US ALL, FLEE! WE MUST GATHER THE DRAGONBALLS!

Superstar90

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Onizuka-GTO — Fri, 28 Dec 2007 09:31:41 MST

@Sixtail: Me too!

Onizuka-GTO

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htd — Fri, 28 Dec 2007 08:33:37 MST

@AltDelete:

they dont like lollipop, if you sell it with some loli pillow thingy with xbox360, it might sell a little better.

htd

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htd — Fri, 28 Dec 2007 08:32:44 MST

what's total ds sold in this handheld game nation?

htd

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AltDelete — Fri, 28 Dec 2007 07:23:58 MST

Man, you just can't sell an xbox to these guys. Candy coated money rainbow lollipops with every console purchased?

AltDelete

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sascha23 — Fri, 28 Dec 2007 05:23:31 MST

PSP and PS3 are both holding their own pretty well. Wonder why the Japanese are so turned off by the 360?

sascha23

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Foxstar Sixtail — Fri, 28 Dec 2007 04:20:54 MST

@badasscat: I want some of the drugs your on.

Foxstar Sixtail

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shiwasu — Fri, 28 Dec 2007 00:18:46 MST

Ha, I thought it was a big jump when the Wii went from 20K to around 50K. This is just ridiculous.

@badasscat:
You should get a job in PR.

shiwasu

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subnet6 — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 22:43:46 MST

@littleball,

Thanks, that makes sense.

It just seemed like, if everything else is way up due to some holiday (or whatever they consider christmas to be in Japan) and the PS3 is actually lower, then that translates into a big drop. But I think you're probably right about the ratios over time becoming consistent.

subnet6

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Tyrannical — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 22:24:23 MST

@Shaoko:
Last gen sales comparison's are examined in quite a bit of depth over at neogaf. Just don't expect to get a posting account over there any time soon.

Tyrannical

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Shaoko — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 21:57:28 MST

I kind of wonder what last generations sales charts looked like, I bet it was like this but the PS2 in the Wii's place, Gamecube in the PS3's place and XBOX... well... no comment.

Shaoko

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guy_jin — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 21:46:45 MST

@Sollus: What do you mean, 'figure out'? there's nothing to figure out: The Wii and DS are dominant, and everything else is lining up behind them.

guy_jin

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kingclip — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 21:35:49 MST

@Kenofthedead: Go down a few topics -- according to the minions, folks over there hate all American products as well.

kingclip

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nya-chama — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 21:35:16 MST

@Kokuryukai:
Of course Japanese celebrate Christmas, no where near in the religious way westerners do, but every way as the commercial holiday it has become.

I got 2 Christmas cards from my Japanese friends living over there ^^, just watch jdramas and see how Christmasy their episodes are around this time of the year.

nya-chama

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Kenofthedead — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 21:28:32 MST

So all these Christmas celebrations I just had here in Osaka were delusions and no one takes a part in it?

Wow, I had really good saki then if I did all that. Hell, even the hangover must still be great as I keep seeing adverts, cards, and deserts all about Big Red Man day.

Remember folks, you don't have to be in the religion to celebrate Christmas. You can just be a consumer whore!

Kenofthedead

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jordo37 — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 21:12:29 MST

Here are the respective approximate market shares for the three companies for this week:

Nintendo: 66.5%
Sony: 32.5%
Microsoft 1.0%

Especially since Nintendo is making money off of each machine sold, this is impressive. Poor Microsoft though...

jordo37

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rocsflight — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 21:05:11 MST

@Roflcopter_Down: At this point I assume that Nintendo has opened cyborg conversion centers in Japan. The cyborgs then need to purchase DSes for parts to augment themselves.

rocsflight

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LittleBallOfHate — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 21:02:09 MST

@subnet6: The PS3 isn't really moving up or down long term, it just has fluctuations. When there are no big releases or major price cuts, it falls further behind (as in this week, it was outsold over 4:1 in one of the busiest weeks of the year). In the past weeks when it had a new SKU announced, a major price cut, a new color, several games.. it closed the gap significantly and even outsold it for a while.

But generally, ratios stay about the same. So far, the Wii has outsold the PS3 about 3:1 lifetime in Japan. If you look at Japanese sales history (which you can, thanks to Media Create) and look at GC/PS2 and N64/PS1, these ratios can fluctuate to week to week based on circumstances but stay basically the same for the life of the consoles.

In other words, if history is any guide (and it should be), we should see sales of around 3:1 in the Wii's favor for the forseeable future. On average. Last month it tilted more towards the PS3, this month its tilting heavily in favor of the Wii. Overall, about 3:1.

LittleBallOfHate

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Onizuka-GTO — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 20:51:14 MST

@TOCATL: indeed.

and even "mega-pwn" seems inadequate, its like Nintendo is simply going to give everyone else a French passport and tell them to pack their bags and go back to their new home.

Onizuka-GTO

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Candlejack — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 20:37:44 MST

@subnet6: Considering the still highest price point, the lack of JRPGs and overall games in comparison (I own a PS3 by the way *shield*), I think these numbers are still quite impressive, even for Japan.

Also, I'm willing to bet a dollar that PS3's sales will be a bit higher next week again. Ok, two dollars. No more. :P

Candlejack

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TOCATL — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 20:36:24 MST

@dunetiger: pwn is no longer enough for the wii and the ds, mega-pwn fits better :D...

TOCATL

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muu — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 20:20:05 MST

Japanese insight on the matter, courtesy of 2ch:

[namidame.2ch.net]

muu

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Torgen got his apology faceplate but not his fixed GH3 disc — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 20:18:09 MST

@dunetiger: Isn't the official Christmas food strawberry cake?

Torgen got his apology faceplate but not his fixed GH3 disc

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subnet6 — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 20:09:22 MST

So why is the PS3 falling? Does anyone know?

Are we going to start seeing more 5 to 1 ratio weeks?
Is the PS3 surge from the price drop over or were there actually some Wii supply issues in Japan that have now been sorted? I honestly don't get it. I thought the PS3 was moving up, not down.

subnet6

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metadae — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 20:07:45 MST

If the PS3, PS2, and Xbox360 pieces were all the same color it would almost look like a peace sign.

metadae

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finder39 — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 20:05:37 MST

Yeah SONY!!!

finder39

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kingclip — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 20:02:44 MST

Can we get Bashcraft or someone to post a Japan primer or something? Between this and the XBox sales chart is just assumption city. They actually DO celebrate Xmas in Japan. It might night be the westernized capitalism orgy like we have, but it has cards and candy and presents and everything.

kingclip

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dunetiger reads kotaku, seems pleased — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 19:58:30 MST

@Kokuryukai:

I thought they did, being that I've been ceaselessly amused by the fact that KFC is the official Christmas food.

dunetiger reads kotaku, seems pleased

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Kokuryukai — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 19:53:09 MST

The writer of the blog failed to mention Japanese don't celebrate Christmas, so of course it will be typical week.

Kokuryukai

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Saint Anima — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 19:49:10 MST

@badasscat: Ah. Well sure, but by "Typical Week" I meant that Nintendo is leading like always, with PSP and the PS3 keeping solid numbers, and the PS2 and 360 covering the back. Now that you mention it, it is weird no one else sold better.

Saint Anima

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Jelster — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 19:40:29 MST

@badasscat: though it does mean Nintendo's got the furthest to settle back once the holiday season's over.

Oh man that's funny.

Jelster

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symphony_of_the_night — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 19:27:54 MST

PSP is still doing great, that is good news!

symphony_of_the_night

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Sugarbloodsuckers — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 19:24:19 MST

Nice numbers for PSP, even though it can't sell games.

Sugarbloodsuckers

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Sollus — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 19:22:53 MST

This generation is so totally fucked sideways that why even try to figure it out?

Sollus

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badasscat — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 19:20:16 MST

@SaintAnima:
It's not a "typical week". It's the week before Christmas. A lot of gifts being bought.

The buying pattern through Christmas has been a bit different than the buying pattern before the Christmas season. Seems like all the Nintendo consoles got big bumps, and basically nobody else did. No idea why, really, and it has kind of surprised me... though it does mean Nintendo's got the furthest to settle back once the holiday season's over.

badasscat

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Detre — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 19:20:14 MST

@Kenofthedead: Im going to have to go with out funked, simply because its awesome.

Detre

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Archangeldeath — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 19:18:51 MST

@Roflcopter_Down: Nah, the undead need to play too.

Archangeldeath

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silkylove — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 19:18:22 MST

I could use the little sliver of pie that represents the 360 to shank that fool that owes me money>:(

silkylove

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Kaemon — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 19:17:33 MST

Hmm wow, Well, nothing unexpected. Nintendo is the king of the consoles and the handhelds at the moment, and I pray they don't mess it up. I'm really enjoying what they've been doing so far...
Now back to playing Eternal Sonata...
Haha.
I got Mario and Metroid Prime 3 on christmas, but I also got lots of 360 games (And I was able to use my 360 since It had to be hidden till Christmas) so I haven't actually played any Wii games except for GH3 when I'm not playing Rock band, Eternal Sonata, CoD4... hmm, I don't wanna fall behind on Mario and never end up playing it like what happened to Sunshine...
Bah.
Anyway, good job again to Nintendo for doing so well.

Kaemon

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Saint Anima — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 19:15:36 MST

Seems like a typical week. Not a bad thing! Guess we'll have to wait for the next big release for Sony/Microsoft to pull in more numbers though.

Otherwise, good show.

Saint Anima

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Kenofthedead — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 19:15:11 MST

Alternatives;
Preponderate
Superabound
Tyrannize
Outfunked

Kenofthedead

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Roflcopter_Down: Wants you to follow HIM! — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 19:11:19 MST

I don't care what you guys and the numbers say. Everyone in Japan must have like 3 DSes.

Roflcopter_Down: Wants you to follow HIM!

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PatMan33 — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 19:09:26 MST

@dunetiger: That's about right.

PatMan33

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Detre — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 19:08:21 MST

it indeed does print money.

Detre

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Doshu — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 19:08:13 MST

It's interesting comparing last week's sales to this week.

* Nintendo DS Lite - 222,132
* PSP - 184,610
* Wii - 170,558
* PlayStation 3 - 63,720
* PlayStation 2 - 18,025
* Xbox 360 - 8,561

Everything sold less except for Wii, DS and PS2 which sold more.

Doshu

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Archangeldeath — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 19:08:09 MST

Apparently PSP won't share with it's younger brother a piece of the pie.

Archangeldeath

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Jelster — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 19:06:41 MST

Can we get a "holy fuck!" over here.

Jelster

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dunetiger reads kotaku, seems pleased — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 19:04:03 MST

synonym for "dominate" = pwn

dunetiger reads kotaku, seems pleased