ChangKaiChek

It is a pity that Morgan is so easily hurt by text...like so many others that can't take it..at least she stays out of the way rather then look like an even greater fool in trying to do what other posters try *in vain* to do..to pwn a troll with a "witty" response *laughable* (Anti-trolls might as well be doing the work for us.)

~Personally I don't see anything wrong with how she looks, but I would troll her nontheless IF I felt she was a worthy focus for such attacks. It wouldn't be hard since I already know a little about what bothers her now. Though I can't be certain of what troll type I'd use..I personally prefer Offensive Troll tactics over flaming..Attention trolling sort of comes with the territory <_<

..we don't always feel/think as we project while working..it can be like acting *or at least that is how I've heard it described*. The views expressed aren't always our own. One could HATE Rygar but proclaim it GREATER then all other games of tha genre. One could LOVE God of War but constantly play it down as crap. Depends on the trolls goals among other things.

NOTE: Not at TUGOWU though..I can't be trolling at a union I play the part of officer at...so even if I had a perfect target in mind..can't really have my fun at the expense of the board. As for why I posted this..I just had the desire to do so and did it

GodModeGOD

fullmetalkira

"Webb: I do not read fan e-mail because 0.1 percent of people ruin it for everybody, and I don't read forums because 0.1 percent of people ruin it for everybody. And it would be really great if I could go on a forum and talk to people who like the show and talk about games, but I can't because there's some 14 year-old jerk somewhere who just wants to be an idiot and try and get attention."

i dont see 0.01 anywhere? ... do you? ... umm . okay ...

bluespecv

JaXs

I have to be the odd man out here... but I can't freakin' STAND Olivia Munn... i don't know what it is, but she just comes off as irritating.

And it's been proven that she cannot carry that show on her own without a co-host who can pick up the slack.

Enigma_20XX

As for the Jade Raymond comment, she was stuck in my face more than the damn Assassin's Creed game itself, and does she ever share the spotlight with some of the other people that made the game?

Sure she's the producer, but she came off looking like an attention whore in my eyes. Great! Let's have more women in gaming development! More power to ya. Just don't expect me not to get tired of ANYBODY who considers themselves more inportant than the game they're promoting.

Enigma_20XX

I'm lordargent here, I'm lordargent on fark. I'm lordargent practically everywhere except on xbox live*.

*: Because, for some reason, it didn't like 'lordargent' as a gamertag and I could never figure out what part of it it didn't like. (no one had that tag).

Maybe it thought 'lord' was a religious thing, or maybe it was because 'gent' denoted gender, or whatever. It just didn't work, even putting gibberish numbers at the end it wouldn't fly.

lordargent

Honestly, I don't think there's a way to win. I truly believe that the vast majority of you probably wouldn't respect or listen to her no matter what she (or really any other woman) did. If she's smokin' hot, she most likely would have had to use her looks instead of her intelligence to 'sell' her ideas, and her credibility is shot. If she's ugly or even average looking but could crank out a 5 way tie for games of the year, the only attention she'd get would be assholes whining that she's not fuckable and therefore not worth the time of day, let alone any respect.

VioletArrows

Not crazy about Morgan's looks, but she does look good. She looks a lot better than THAT girl in Gamestop (yea, that one). She actually has more clever and meaningful stuff to say about games and the industry. She sometimes exploits her body to other ventures. So what? She's a person first and foremost, she's doing these gigs to help promote her show and that's show business, get over it. She's not the representative of all things good in a female race. Though that said, she is an excellent candidate by being relevant to her subject and not having a sidekick role on the show. Hey, you know what? Those old hags on 'The View' seem morally correct, why don't YOU people point your attention there?

Other than a few episodes obviously way too excited about a title I believe is undeserved, X-play is the saving grace of ANY video game tv show. On or OFF G4. I believe these shows (as a whole) are still in their infancy and X-play can potentially bridge the gap between a novelty idea and a worth while watch. I'm also sad they took away my other favorite show, Judgement Day :(

neosoul

Hazaa54

It's a shame that she avoids most fan contact due to the immature groups out that are out there, but I guess she's stuck with it due to the target audience of games.

Ah well.

Rondogg

DSlayer103

And while I might expect some slander from former co-workers, I wouldn't from guys who were nice and generous enough to allow her to shoot stories in their venues.

I have nothing against the lady, but it seems really lame to blame others (even if they may be jerks) because you don't want any backlash for your own actions.

wirebrain

Still, her "excuses" for posing in Maxim really don't gel very well. I'm fairly sure she did it for the attention and the ego. Not for any other reason. There are many ways to promote something.

goddessakasha

_tdc_

From the interview she seems to have a good head on her shoulders. She understands she is in show business and what she needs to do to promote her show and career. It perfectly understandable she doesn't want to read hurtful things about herself or even the good things that could warp her ego and perception of herself. I see that bit was left out in the selective quoting. Good for her.

Personally I would love to be her. Beautiful and successful in a career I'm passionate about.

lilithfey

I stopped watching X-play when they put her on there because as big of a dork as Sessler was, he came off as excited and into it. The second they put Morgan on there they turned him into a caricature and the show became some kind of "beauty and the geek" thing.

I don't blame Morgan for that though, it's the network. For some reason Spike and G4 both seem to think it's funny to demean gamers. I guess they realize that it's not gamers who are actually watching their awful channels.

skullivan

RawSteelUT

Anyway, you can now return to your scheduled bashing of all things G4 and Morgan Webb's physical appearance.

ビッグ ボス

I've always had a thing for Cat (from The Screensavers)
[www.imdb.com]

WildWon

Morgan Webb: doesn't even look like a woman.

bubuli

No. Just no. You seem to think all female gamers think the same way, and play the same games. We don't. I hate being labelled as a "female gamer" because we can't be put into one neat little category. The "female gamer" you're trying to reach out to is the one that the real gamers despise. The ones who cry about what some pixels looks like in a god damn game.

I'm sick of hearing about "grrl gamers". We're gamers, nothing more, nothing less. We don't need any special attention. Stop feeding your attention to the fucking drama queens, like Morgan Webb.

Hahaue

It's all about the jaw.

Johnny_Under

I'm not saying she deserves it or asks for it (because nobody does). I'm saying that she should expect it with the nature of "TEH BIZ," especially paired with the whole "posing in swimsuits" thing. That kinda kills your credibility IMO. Really hard to take anyone seriously. Oh, but its cool, there's an article in there. Because the knuckledragging high school kids that read Maxim sure as hell turn the pages to read the articles about someone on an obscure channel that's on the 2nd or 3rd tier in my digital package.

And concerning the Jade issue: That was horrible, I felt bad for her. But I think the problem people SHOULD be looking at is how the industry actually treats women inside of it. If Jade weren't moderately attractive, would Ubisoft have paraded her around? Webb cites Will Wright and Cliffy B. as examples of this sort of double standard. I think the biggest difference here is that they actually did something before they were paraded around on their names. What the hell has she actually done to warrant being thrown out as someone I give a damn? Producer of "The Sims Online?" The ONLY reason she was being paraded around was that Ubisoft figured out and has known for years that you can just parade some eye-candy around for the juvenile minded gamers out there and they'll eat it up. Case in point: Frag Dolls. Would any of them get any attention if they looked like Cavetrolls? The whole image that Ubi with Jade and Morgan Webb and her bikinis have taught me is that the industry motto is "Women welcome (Unless they're fat or ugly and can't be used as PR tools)."

Maybe the whole reason that women in the industry can't be taken seriously as they should is that the industry parades them around like models and purposefully markets them as objects.

Nikolii

yonderTheGreat

boopadoo

khuntilla

SpishackCola

Sloopydrew

Except what about the girls who are buying them? Have you considered that girls are going out and buying games that they enjoy? The problem is that girls are a minority in gaming. For every girl that goes out and buys The Orange Box, there's some guy buying Dead or Alive Extreme Beach Volleyball. There is purchasing power, it's just counteracted by the average teenage male.

hrunting

bornonce

Uhmm, they've usually been pretty polite to me whenever I've seen them at PAX. Of course I wouldn't bother talking to them on a forum because I really don't care... but are they like snobbish or something? They would walk up and small talk me when I wandered on the booth and I sure as hell didn't bug them for it, and were pretty good sports. I miss something?

Evdor

Oh and sorry, but you got a man-face girly. Whoo! I'm in the .1 percent too!

Silenthillnight

QFT

I'm also looking at you, Frag Dolls.

MuppetChrist

Kojjiro

You use your good looks and nice boobs to land a job as a figurehead for a video game channel, then refuse to talk to the fucking community because you look good and have nice boobs.

Hypocrisy much?

splines

chardish

The men who want to sleep with her, WATCH HER SHOW, because they want to sleep with her.

So you would do yourself a favor to entice that behavior while letting them know "i'm not interested in you, but I thank you for saying you want to have sex to me in 39 different ways".

Considering where she came from, thats an ego trip.

If thats the case, don't get on TV, cause men are judging you the minute you step on the set.

Being a woman in general gets you judged, Ugly or Beautiful, someone wants to have sex to you and eventually you will be notified of that fact, INTERNET OR NOT.

RetsaM

Might want to check your math there and find out what happened to the .09% you're missing.

chardish

I actually read through the interview, and I now like her way more than I did before. She realizes and acknowledges that she has gotten where she is largely thanks to her being a woman and (no matter what some people here say) attractive. She doesn't seem to have a problem with that. What she does have a problem with is people assuming she knows nothing about games or doesn't play them.

I also like her view on people wanting her to become some sort of role model for getting more girls into games. Is that necessarily a good thing? I mean, us guys would probably enjoy it but like she said, nothing is keeping girls from getting into gaming right now, and it's just entertainment. Gaming isn't inherently a good thing to do. There's no need to encourage girls to play games more (unless you're in the industry).

Kavatar

Morgan dear, I think you need to actually go on the internet and get a freaking clue. Everyone + my grandma knows that the internet is filled with Idiots. It's not just ONE 14 year old, there are even older people who do the type of crap that gives you the title of "Ass Hat." Quit being such a little baby and grow up. I deal with idiots and pricks all the time on XBL, WoW, Message Boards, etc you find them everywhere. Sure, they might make you mad or irritated, or make you want to stab yourself in the face, but that doesn't give you the right to say that one person ruins it and you have to be a little bitch and whine because someone doesn't like your knees. Be an adult, actually play a game, get off X-Play, have Adam host it because he ACTUALLY knows wtf a game is, and do us all a favor and face society.

Gzuss

Vecha

WhoreofSpamylon

hypocrazyyyyyy!

conglomerate

HfAsianInvasion

Though this comment definitely got me into the .01."

Just.. lol... hahah

I can't believe the interviewer didn't fix that math error when she published the interview.. -_-'

chibixleon

Captain Impulse

TheRemedy

@0starter0: Just DD? Some of these games look like they're smuggling cantaloupes. It's just stupid. Looking at you Soul Calibur IV.

brello

Anemone

hobob

Your link is cranky and told me that you are stealing jpgs and bandwidth. You should be ashamed.

PapaBear434

This is just another way to do it, don't you know? Beat us in video games, and emasculate us further.

PapaBear434

thinkfreemind

J-Fro

It never fails; once the other team realises my teammates and I don't speak english to one another, you hear all kind of offensive comments on their part. Actually, it kinda reflect on the knowledge of the average american male gamer that many of them just can't recognize French when they hear it.

But it just is the way it is. You grow a thicker skin and answer back, or mute the dumbasses.

Guizzy

I thought Morgan was hot back on "The Screen Savers" and any other show she popped up on the old TechTV. I have a thing for women who can outsmart me, I think.

The fact you did a shoot for Maxim and FHM was just icing on the cake. Smooth, sexy icing.

Wow, I'm getting lecherous tonight...

/wife is watching me write this, and is laughing while she hits me

PapaBear434

correction: their

NeoAkira

AnEternalEnigma

Mute them, duh. I find people who complain about harassment on live as annoying as parents who complain that they're kids are playing violent video games. Both have the tools available to fix the problem: live complainers can mute people (novel idea I know) and parents can use the ESRB ratings.

NeoAkira

I respect you as a gamer, as a woman, and as a tech specialist. I know you have forgotten more about operating systems than I have ever learned. You also have probably played more games, since it is your job.

That said, you are absolutely, unequivocally, stunningly hot. I have the picture of you posing against the server tower as my desktop wallpaper. And in that little, theoretical game that all spouses play for some reason where you choose your one hypothetical celebrity you'd sleep with if you had the opportunity, and not get in trouble, my wife guessed first try that it would have been you (she chose Brendan Fraiser, if you must know.)

I realize that this would never happen, and I am not about to go all creepy stalker on you. If I were to meet you on the street, or at a convention, I would shake your hand, ask for your autograph, and tell you that I am a huge fan and appreciate and reference your and Adam's opinion (on what is the only watchable show on G4) whenever possible before a game purchase. I would not do anything creepy or in anyway inappropriate.

But know this... In my head, we've done things. Dirty things, crazy things, wonderful things. You and your awesome, sexy, goddess-like figure have inescapably wormed your way into my fantasies. And there you shall stay.

WHEW! Do I feel better! Good thing she'll never, ever read this! Would THAT be embarrassing or what?!

PapaBear434

Swift_

Honestly, I'd have MUCH more respect this lady if she did a piece on the political satire of Halo 3 (if there is any..).

I'm sorry that it's SO hard for you to be an attractive woman who enjoys video games. Really, the best way to gain respect is to put your chin up, ignore the assholes, and quit writing about how hard your life is. Do that, and I'll be the first person to start the applause.

Dakkonfire

AverageJoes

0starter0

dafthero

Belain

kyosen

Voting with your pocketbook MEANS just that - buy good games that you feel reflect your interests! If the money is there the industry will follow! You can find that example in just about any part of the gaming industry, from fighting games to shooters all the way to dating sims. These genres exist because there are gamers willing to shell out the cash to play these types of games. Once the money shows up for games that exhibit characteristics that girls like, these games will be made. It's as simple as that. If girls as whole don't do this, they only have themselves to blame.

Besides, are there any real blocks to girls going out and trying to make their own games, anyway? Who is stopping them from buying games that reflect their interests? Anyone? The answer to that is a big, fat NO.

Also, how many times has it been said that girl gamers have it so much worse than the rest of us do? I hear it these days like some kind of endless refrain. Now I will admit there's a dimension of abuse girl gamers have to put up with that the rest don't, the same way that any gaming minority (gamers who are gay, for instance) has a dimension of abuse they have to put up with that no one else does, but then abuse has become the norm with respect to just about any type of online gaming. I get it all the time myself, much of it for no reason. Granted there's no sexual dimension to it, but abuse is abuse. You know what I do? Mute the assholes who do it. Or report them. I've been given tools to deal with idiots like that, and I use them. I don't whine that people are constantly in my face - I realize that some people are decent and others are assholes, and I take the appropriate steps to deal with the situation as it arises. I control my gaming experience, not anyone else.

theherlihyboy

otimus

You on the other hand I don't give a **** about.

Iron_Dragon_2.0

Otherwise, sucks to be her. XPLAY sucks ass and she will never be taken serious.

RagingBull

FancyRat

Ballaboy311

Ghede

There, the exchange has been complete. Sheesh, you people are rather quick to call people jerks on the internet. That isn't jerkishness, that is classic nipple based wordplay. Ragglefraggle, kids these days. Wait... I'm twenty. Ragglefraggle, people these days.

Ghede

On one hand, everything Morgan Webb has said here is valid.

On the other hand, she is also the worst example of beauty exploited for fame in this industry.

imaria

crapsh00t

Captain_Canada

sauce.

ManjiKengo

Props to MTV for framing gender in gaming culture, but it seems to me, gaming culture is actually pretty friendly to gender since gaming culture is still very fringe. In the age-old war of gender, fringe is usually the kindest and fairest, though of course that does not mean that the immortal war against the evils of patriarchy does not also find victims on the fringe.

Just that the evils of gender she probably experiences do not reflect game culture so much as Television culture.

IE.(If she were just a game journalist with a web site or writin for a magazine she probably wouldn't have the same experience she has cohosting a TV show)...

Sayin',

Although she covers fringe stuff, the fact that she's on TV makes her too accessible to be fringe.

Anyway, she's attempting to bite the hand that feeds as G4's programming is geared to 14 year olds. Which, of course 14 year olds like, because 14 year olds like the idea of cynicism for cynicism's sake, as they are in the midst of adolescence, and so part of what makes Morgan Webb successful is baiting 14 year olds, treating them with contempt and so forth, which they, for their own psychological reasons, find inclusive. So.

Yeah, props to MTV for trying, but I don't think this really sticks to gaming so much as to 'women in TV' and suchlike. What would be more interesting would be a weeklong series of interviews with female programmers, female PR, gamestop employees even, etc, the folk dealing in the actual game industry on a day to day basis, rather than just picking some quasi celebrity who treats this as a chance to excite her fanbase with more browbeating.

Wait? Did I just write 'props to MTV for trying'? Something's wrong...

balgeary

Sure, she's a woman, and she's not exactly ugly either, but she's just not what I would call hot.

Maybe bookstore/coffee shop "Gimme my coffee and stop asking me if I want a mint latte" cute. Perhaps even "College girl that happens to play DDR on Doubles" cute (Who am I kidding, half the girls that play DDR in Cleveland are kinda sloppy...)

There are two other girls on G4 that I'd probably classify as "hot" over her, like AoTS' Olivia Munn, or certainly Cheat!'s Kristin Holt, whom I feel deserves a cover on Maxim (Pick a country edition).

Cute? Yes. Hot? Not.

But hey, it's just one opinion in a sea of them...

Soldier_CLE

Imagine trying to play Live and dealing with the shit any girl who plays must deal with. Well since she has to vote for her pocketbook, I guess she can just play 'Barbie's Horse Adventures', right? Everything's that easy!

debloon

Keanu

If girls are going to game more often and start making their own games, that is a decision they have to come to on their own. Don't like sexually objectified girls in games? Then get involved and make your own game! Try to sell it! If it does well, it will herald much change! Otherwise, quit whining that the gaming industry doesn't cater to your particular interests. The industry responds to one thing, and one thing alone: MONEY. Where the money goes, it will follow. If girl gamers don't like the way things are going, they should vote with their damn pocketbooks. That's what the rest of us gamers do.

And you know, I'm not about to be lectured on the sexual objectification of girls in games by women who have and/or do sexually objectify themselves in the gaming industry, be it Morgan Webb, the Frag Dolls, Game Girl Advance, or whatever girl gamer decides to do so.

theherlihyboy

FIRST!!!

Garro

Dimipapa

nintendomaniac64

I have to say, I've experienced the exact same scenario at previous jobs of someone coming to ask a question about games or computers, and if there's a male near by, they get asked the question, even if they couldn't tell you the difference between an Xbox and a Virtual Boy. It definitely sucks sometimes. And even the other day, I was explaining to a friend at school what HDMI cables are for, and a guy came by and thought he was in the twilight zone to hear such talk come out of a girl's mouth. He even said "Not to be sexist...but I wasn't expecting to hear a girl say that!" Sigh. :(

teraphony

On the subject of her Maxim spread, this is the first I've heard, and I couldn't really care less. What she does with her fame is her problem and as long as it doesn't block me from my goals then she could pose nude on X-play and it wouldn't have much affect on whether I would watch the show or not.

On the subject of girls in gaming, my girlfriend is a better sniper than I'll ever be in the virtual world. Whoopee, she's fun to play with and isn't that what really matters?

ggodo

You are correct on that point.

VSpeck

@TheDollHouse: Being a celebrity raises your hotness factor several billion points.
I used to be called incredibly ugly, but then I became finalist #4 in the Dementium contest, and BAM!, I got +50000 hotness points.

Kirbytheslayer: In-Kirby XMB

MURDERFACE

MURDERFACE

Still, I have to agree with her points about the .01% of idiots that prowl the internet. We've all came across our own share of rabid fanboys/girls, jerks that think they are God's gift to women, bratty drama queens, over zealous religious bigots, death threats, and your all around troll. It sad that it's this small percentage seem to be the loudest.

TheDollHouse

I mean come on its probably more like 60% dicks 40% decent people. On the interent its probably worse though.

Triple07

Multiplayer: Are you suggesting that if you were a man with the same knowledge, you wouldn't be as successful as you are now?

Webb: Here's the thing: television is different then the rest of the world. I have faith in the fact that if I didn't find this television show, I would have a great job. And I don't think that I have this job solely because I'm a woman. But I think that yeah, television is different, and they want a show with a man and a woman.

So what she clarified is television is different (go figure) and that she wasn't hired because she was a woman, although they were looking for a woman to help host the show as well.

contradiction anyone?

NeoAkira

paintstevegreen

UnJamma6096

Attractiveness shouldn't even enter into it, as long as they're not cave trolls. It really shouldn't be an issue anyway, as most of the people on G4 are only of average attraction, if that.

Olivia Munn however = sexbomb.

mmmm munn :D

CaptLtrl

Beam1985

Aflack: Likes slushies

hikkifan1986

I agree. She did it for more publicity for the show and yet she knew that it could affect her legitimacy. I wonder if she didn't have some pressure from higher ups to do it. I'm sure there has to plenty of ways to get publicity for your show that don't involve a Playboy-lite kind of spread. Things like this annoy me to no end.

hikergirl

Jessica Chobot >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Morgan Webb.

drbrownt0wn

She's got a point about the internet -- that's why I'm glad most online communities have block/ignore features. After a few months of whittling away the tards, you can finally start to have meaningful dialog online.

topaz420

Stormrider

@BTownDesignGuy: Jade Raymond said nothing. This was all Morgan Webb. Jade was too busy saying "Buy my game because I'm hot. But don't treat me as an object."

@balls187: Mwuhahaha. Time to get personal. You didn't notice the number disparity. MWUHAHAH!

Kirbytheslayer: In-Kirby XMB

Dracula Feet

You have to consider that only as feminism and equal rights took off in the 60s did you start to see it become acceptable, socially, for women to take on certain jobs in various industries, as well as hobbies and pastimes. Gaming is still considered a primarily "male" pastime, and that stigma is going to take more time to wear off, and for gaming culture to become more inclusive as a whole.

Give it time. I don't doubt that in a few decades gaming will be as unremarkable for women as it is for men. Our granddaughters will doubtlessly find it inconceivable that there was a time when their interest in games would elicit comment from anyone.

Sugoi

Trowble (XBL/PSN)

--

Morgan Webb is cool, though. She should just stop doing things such as exploiting herself (like in Maxim) that give women a detrimental image in the gaming world. I really don't feel offended by having her around though -- THERE'S always room in the gaming club for anyone.

Mode7

Jokes aside, its cool to hear those tidbits from her. I will always have a soft spot in my heart for X Play, its hosts and its various incarnations (at least until they get rid of Adam).

The Amazing Exploding-Man

Desi

RYAMATSU

SkutSkut

Was that really a good metaphor?! Hmm? How about, "Kotaku Editor Brian Crecente spills the beans on how to pronounce...Kotaku." Now that's a story - and even Penelope Cruz designing her first action-adventure game wouldn't top that! Er....

budash2

Or not a pretty face, as the case may be.

Perhaps I should amend my username; it seems to be the trend.

Ping: .01 percent fo' life?

Ping

yashichi8bit

And the funny thing is, people at it up, because the photo he created for this communist lesbian was hot. He made a decent amount of money by making crappy techno and convincing people it was made by a hot chick.

Yeah, Jade's totally right about how nerds treat women who participate in nerdy media. And that really sucks.

BtownDesignGuy

goldwings

bigman88zz

"And it would be really great if I could go on a forum and talk to people who like the show and talk about games, but I can't because there's some 14 year-old jerk somewhere who just wants to be an idiot and try and get attention. And then you can't engage them because if you give them attention, then they win."

uh,it's called banning and ignoring people. If you can't grasp those concepts then perhaps you are just a pretty face.

NeoAkira

ghnvt

kidnicky

Philudo

PATSCRU

Though this comment definitely got me into the .01.

And real classy. Whining about people who treat her as a sex object, and then objectifying herself in every way possible.

Kirbytheslayer: In-Kirby XMB

balls187