<![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific? - Kotaku Comments]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific? - Kotaku Comments]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> I don't realy care where it is. I played all of them and none of them were dissapointing and the next one certainly won't. COD4 in modern setting was certainly something refreshing but they are right not to over use the idea. I just wish that they put some vehicles in MP and make the campaign longer than the COD4's (about 6 hours).

PATSMOL21

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> SCREW VIETNAM!THE KOREAN WAR IS AN UNTAPPED MARKET! A WHOLE NEW WAVE OF FPS MAY COME ALONG!!!!!!!!!!!

4077thRADAR

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> BRING THE SERIES TO VIETNAM!

lonesn1per

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> If not Korea, and if indeed Call of Duty is deploying to the pacific, at least they can make it interesting. Playing as an Australian, for example, would be fun(or New Zealanders, either way, it would be good). Maybe playing as a Navy sailor on an aircraft carrier, or a destoyer. They coud even include the Seabees. As for battles, they should focus on the less memerable ones; Tulagi, Gavutu-Tanambogo, Tarawa, Roi-Namur, Kwajelein, Saipan-Tinian, Guam, Peleliu, and maybe the Phillipines. The characters should ALL be Marines, forget the army here. Just for the popular appeal, they should include Iwo Jima, and Okinawa

4077thRADAR

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> You know what would be awesome, "Call of Duty 5; The Korean War" I mean, how cool would it be if you could be an actual medic in the multiplayer; not reviving fallen players, stabalizing them, then loading them on to ambulances or choppers, and sending them to a MASH. Hell, maybe there can even be players playing as surgeons(Hawkeye,Trapper John,(see my point?)) The Korean War is an almost forgotten conflict, and it would be good to honor and relive that experience.

4077thRADAR

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> Alright it's time to grow up. Nobody wants to hear a complainer so those of you who are complaining about how it's WW2 again, listen up. If you liked COD4 then 98% chance you'll like COD5. Why? If you were dissapointed with past COD's (1,2,3) for some odd reason (i happened to have liked them very much being a broad gamer) maybe it's because it wasn't played on a next gen (excluding XBOX). They are going to do a great job on COD5 simply because they did a great job with COD4. It's going to have the same if not better gameplay than COD4 and they will give the pacific a better gaming title. We all know MOH and their almost fruitless attempts at the pacific (i liked pearl harbour on rising sun and i'm sure many of have too) then COD will make those MOH game experiances way better with better characters and story. Ever year COD gets better, if you played them, and all of you know this so losen up and get COD5 because if they fail at COD5 then they'll lose funds or something devastating might happen ending or severely damaging the COD line.

eagle214

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> I wouldn't mind having a COD5 in the Pacific b/c someone in my family was in the marines and the people that were in the Pacific were the MARINES! I would definetly buy it and play it. Gosh. If they don't take it back in time, go into the future and make futuristic weapons that are based on weapons like now, but are better. Halo 3 three did it with Barret .50 cal sniper rifle and the shotgun. Why not do it with COD. Just don't fight aliens, they get annoying after a while.

f-18fighterpilot

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> OMG!!! Please dont make another ww2 game they're so boring now! Medal of honour basicly rinced the life out of the scenario and everyone i know prefers a modern scenario so please no ww2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

tomwaring

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> pacific? that part of the war was horrible like what happend to the british P.O.Ws they all were tourcherd to death...
that part of the war wasent really tatics it was praticly bayonet to bayonet and murder in the thousends

and im going to give this a chance but the multiplayer better have no veichcals becuse that was just bad...


lepa

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> bloody hell the games not even out yet, how da hell do any of u no wot its goin 2 b like. They might surprise every1 nd pull an amazin game out od their arses.

djr92

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> I'd just pretend this ain't even a part of the Call of Duty series.

cryora

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> uh i dont think it will be too bad i mean i kinda liked COD3 but thats just me ill play anything that is COD iv played every single one as of right now.

LittleDude3452

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> This makes me want to cry. At least Call of Duty 6 will be made by IW. I only own Call of Duty 4 and don't own Call of Duty 3 but the people i know who have say it sucks and the people who made call of duty 2 are IW and my friends who have tht say it is a great game so im only gunna buy every other Call of Duty installment

hansen578

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> By far COD4 was the best version and they should keep moving forward with modern combat. Too many games go back to WW2 and I think everything that could realistically be done has been done to some extent. I suggest COD 5 focus on a the European/US/Russian/China senarios. It could be a WW3 type First person shooter (without nukes)with the additions of..M1s, F22s, Migs, etc...You could do a Red Dawn type of game...fighting in the streets and countryside of the US against everyone. I think most prefer the modern weapons and technology (air strikes, choppers)of modern warfare than the same ole tanks and sub machine guns of WW2. But hell, what do I know, I'm just a consumer!

LSUnhTiger

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> I own COD4 for my 360 and beat it. It was an awesome game by far (even though i thought the single player campaign was a little short.) Honestly though, I am glad to see it go back to WWII, when all you had as a soldier was your helmet, rifle, and guts. I know that most want them to go back to modern day shooting, which is pretty cool as far as the technology goes (the javelin was awesome) but I am also a WWII nut and am a collector of WWII memorabilia and a history junky. I think that this game really just stands out to people such as myself, since it is as close to the real thing as I will ever get. But Ive also come to the realization that most people are NOT like me and would consider my fascination with this time in history pretty dorky!! Im just glad my fiance puts up with it.

brandon_rss18

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> @Witzbold: forgot to mention, it would make for some pretty interesting gameplay modes and multiplayer development I think.

Also the story itself would be something worth seeing.

Witzbold

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> @Terrorsaur: Actually quite personally I think we have enough "futuristic" games. It would be nice to see IW explore the rather dark side of the private "security" firms that have exploded on the market thanks to the post 9/11 world we live in.

Witzbold

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> I would love to see IW's interpretation of future warfare. COD6 might be just that, but thats getting ahead of things.

Treyarch you say? noo nooo noooooo. COD3 was such a waste of money, dear god.

And was Moh:PA really "AWFUL"? I read it was kind of decent.

Terrorsaur.

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> @2kreative: Cheers mate. Glad to know that somebody was reading through the biblical posts and enjoyed it. :)

LIMECAT 4 EVAR!

Witzbold

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> @2kreative: You're welcome, and thanks.

dv8godd

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> @dv8godd: @Witzbold: Nice, that makes a good read

2kreative

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> @dv8godd: Yeah I hear you on the comment push. I do that alot with my ! posts.

COD4 is totally awesome though. MP by far is the most addictive thing that I have played in a long time. Its not often that there is a MP game that I do log on at least once a night for a little bit if I have time.

Im getting too old though, cant keep up with all the twitchy coke drinking kids nowdays.

Witzbold

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> ^ comment push. I hate that.

dv8godd

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> @Witzbold: Yes, great conversation. Always glad when posts round out like this.
 
Personally, I haven't picked up CoD4 yet... it's on my xmas list and I made a promise not to buy myself everything I was interested in prior to the holidays. :)
 
The anticipation is frustrating since I keep hearing good things. Two weeks...





dv8godd

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> @dv8godd: I totally agree. I do hope that there will be a dev studio that is willing to stand up and change things, along with a publisher who will be willing to take the "dive" along with them.

Another problem is still that by far the general public still considers games to be something for kids. They dont realise its like any other entertainment industry that is aimed towards all age groups and have their own age categories also.

Great conversation on the topic though. I really do hope that there are some devs here who are willing to read the thoughts of the people and do try something new.

Oh yeah if theres one thing COD4 taught me, its how much fucking war sucks and what my friends in Iraq must have gone through. The game itself I think what really added the fear factor to it is the fact that bullets penetrait materials. So there really isnt a place you can safely hide for too long. Also just the sheer number of bullets that come flying towards you on the hardest difficulty level is just insane.

Witzbold

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> @Witzbold: "Im guessing though its too difficult for developers to touch in fear from backlash from one of the "parties" involved with the story. Which Id assume some developers would have trouble presenting to the publishers without having them backing out of the project telling the dev to change the story or no dice."
 
I think the movie industry went through the same thing. It takes a certain maturity on the part of both the producers and consumers of content to change that. Movies frequently receive backlash for their "message", about the closest we get with games is "too violent" or the noise surrounding Mercenaries 2.
 
But then again, movies with a more mature tone are meant to resonate with a more mature audience. As the gaming audience gets older, it should support content that fits older audiences as well. The sad trend has been that gamers are seen to "outgrow" gaming, unlike other medias. While not true for "hardcore" gamers, I know a lot of people who fit that description.
 
It has as much to do with gaming content not "growing up" as it does with the audience maturing.
 
Fast forward to today, and you have the Wii bringing gaming to older audiences by being a fun distraction... but no one seems to be considering the gaming medium as a serious platform for mature content. "Violent != mature" to me, nor does just having "sex" or other topics... handled poorly, those topics are just juvenile interpretations of mature topics... which is largely what we have right now.
 
And don't get me wrong, I love the Wii for what it is... but I still see it as something a bit out of line with mature entertainment. That Nintendo has nailed the concept of "play" isn't a question... but I think the industry, as a whole, still has a way to go before being considered a serious entertainment medium to diverse age brackets because it is so reticent to embrace "truly" mature entertainment.
 
 
@Witzbold: "I think society itself has become a bit too sheltered to allow for a more "true" and edgy game to be brought to the table, and we need society in a sense to also change if its going to become a reality. Granted the devs need to help try to push such an idea strongly to the publishers also that they really would like to move foward with such a project in an attempt to change the stagnant image WWII has been branded with due to the overly saturated market."
 
I tend to agree about the society bit... and I think there's two issues that fit into that.
 
On one hand, you have the larger community "condemning" gaming for introducing violence to children because it doesn't perceive gaming as a valuable entertainment medium past a certain age. All of us here agree that violent games aren't for children, we support the ESRB, etc. Yet the mainstream perception is that these are poison being sold to kids even when the intention was never for them to BE for kids. That said, it's difficult for me to blame parents for thinking that when the rest of the game is mindlessly juvenile as well. If the story and other engaging elements don't work on a more mature level for more mature audiences, the masses aren't likely to be attracted to the mindless violence of play.
 
On the second hand you have an industry that is hopelessly addicted to numbers: review scores, sales numbers, costs of development, etc. As long as the major publishers are concerned about their bottom line, they aren't taking risks... and they aren't risking anything for the sake of attracting "lost market segments". The bread and butter for them is in selling crap to children, shooters to teenagers, and puzzle/brain/sim games to the older crowd. They don't know how to court a new demographic and their ability to innovate is limited to technology. Of course, every once in a while some spark of intelligence pops up... but it's usually quickly buried in copy-cats or the same old pap.
 
Basically, I blame the development community for being unable to reach out to society at large enough to change it's mind about "who" gaming is for. Without that altered perception, only the few dedicated, hopeful, older gamers like a few of us around here are making up the market that would buy the game you and I are talking about. If game developers could do something to help shed that "juvenile light" they've been painted in, it would go a long way toward helping society view it differently.
 
It has to start somewhere... and it's either going to start with the industry taking some much needed leaps... or it's going to have to wait until everyone currently over the age of 40 is dead. And I don't have 50 years to wait for that.
























dv8godd

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> @dv8godd: Indeed, I hear you brother.

Hell yeah theres lots of stories still left to be told. I think another problem with the "industry" also lies within the consumer base. Are they really ready for something on a more mature level?

Plus not many folks know more of WWII than what they have just seen in movies, which mostly depicts normandy or some blownout european town.

But Im all totally for games that push new ideas or try to bring other darker stories to the table. Anything to make the consumer think more about the actions they are performing while playing, or to feel whats going on in the game as their character advances through the stages.

Since truthfully with the current formula I really dont care all that much about the stories.

Im guessing though its too difficult for developers to touch in fear from backlash from one of the "parties" involved with the story. Which Id assume some developers would have trouble presenting to the publishers without having them backing out of the project telling the dev to change the story or no dice.

An example, granted its not related to games but the movie industry the film "Lord of War" a film about a fictional arms dealer whos character is based off of a real one and tells a story of how weapons are moved around the world by such dealers, fueling conflicts and wars. The film itself didnt recieve any funding from the US, so the studio producing it went and got money from overseas sources. It goes to show that if a subject is too for a region it will have to find funding from another area. Most devs I dont think will want to have to go through such a process, not to mention causing tensions with a publisher who will also feel pressure if the game has too much of an "edge" on it that they feel will cause them political backlash. Granted the movie still showed in the US, but the money backing it was from outside the country.

On a more personal note its an excellent movie and has a strong political message. I highly must recommend it to anyone interested in such movies.

I think society itself has become a bit too sheltered to allow for a more "true" and edgy game to be brought to the table, and we need society in a sense to also change if its going to become a reality. Granted the devs need to help try to push such an idea strongly to the publishers also that they really would like to move foward with such a project in an attempt to change the stagnant image WWII has been branded with due to the overly saturated market.

I was going to type more but it seems that my train of thought has hit a cow and now derailed. So apologies if the post itself does seem incomplete. :/

Witzbold

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> @Witzbold: Yes, I have played Company of Heroes. Haven't picked up the new expansion yet, but I'm eager to get back into it soon. I've heard nothing but good things about Opposing Fronts.
 
Yeah, I like the way it depicts soldiers just doing soldier things and acting like normal people in cut scenes. One of the shared attributes of so many games where your goal is to kill other people is the dehumanization aspect, which is also why I liked Bioshock (because it went the other way a bit with little sisters).
 
It was discussed a bit earlier up the post, but I think it would be good to see more evolutions like this for WWII games, if we're going to keep having them. The setting needs more maturity in general, more humanity. I even think the American vs Japanese island battles would be possible, but not within the context of what the industry currently churns out... there's just no way to make those battles "fun" (by the current formula) from what I've heard and read of them.
 
But... if you choose a much more mature tone, decide to make a game that deals with the horror and the humanity more than just the shooting an AI, then you might have a chance at producing something compelling. You just can't have any illusions about what's "fun" about it. It reminds me of the Holocaust Museum in DC, not far from where I live. You ride up in an elevator to the top floor to see the bulk of the main exhibit... and they jam you in like sardines, the point being to force you into the mindset of "this is not fun, you're going to hate this". It doesn't make the experience "bad", it just understands that not all experiences need to be "pleasant" to be worthwhile. It's a calculated part of the experience that sets the mood appropriately.
 
I think the thing that bores me about most WWII games isn't the gameplay or the setting... it's just that I'm again just shooting AIs like the genre hasn't moved away from weapons and maps being the core point. It needs to move toward moral choices, consequences and other realities of war.
 
WWII cinema has, for the most part, come a long way since it started out, but WWII gaming has not except on the technology front. WWII gaming is still back at John Wayne.
 
There are exceptions, of course, like the scene you mentioned that allude to more humanity and maturity. But I'd like to see it go much further forward. I guess my feeling is that WWII as a setting isn't dead... but gaming's portrayal of it should be, especially for FPS titles.
 
As people have said, there are many stories in WWII yet to be told... it's just that developers are stuck in a rut not telling them. Instead they're telling the generic story of "move that way, don't get shot, kill some dehumanized enemies along the way, lather, rinse, repeat".















dv8godd

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> Ffs Treyarch start your own game, stop doing COD games because people will hate you more and more. Infinity Ward is by far the superior developer. I guess I'm gonna have to buy a COD game every 2 years.

DiskoDanyo

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> It also could be a pack of lies

GGL

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> I heard a rumour that CoD 5 was going to be set in vietnam. that could be interesting.

GGL

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> @Heliophage: Did you get the expansion also? I havent picked it up yet but plan on doing so when I get more time / money.

Was curious to how that one was.

Witzbold

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> Company of Heroes is a fantastic game. If you haven't played it, you're doing yourself a disservice.

Heliophage

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> @dv8godd: Ever played Company of Heroes? That game was awesome.

I really liked how it showed both sides as human, and just from the standpoint of people fighting in a war.

Best scene is where it has the 2 german watch soldiers drinking coffee and talking.

Witzbold

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> From that picture Im guessing Infinity Ward is the guys with the bitchin tank, and Treyarch is the poor bastards stuck with the elephant and stick.

Witzbold

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> Seems like there's gonna be two roads for CoD to follow.

shadow_judge

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> @Witzbold: I was actually thinking about that this morning. Of following a german soldier through key campaigns in the early part of the war when they were winning, the trick would be in how they handled the holocaust side and occupation I feel as that's where the negative spin would come in. Personally I would go for having the game be the flashback of a soldier who survived, inbetween levels cut in some stills based off of photos and script it so the dark side is handled tactfully making it clear that the majority didn't really know what was going on and that the game neither condones nor glorifies it and they could probably avoid some of the negative feedback. Also I'd want at least one opportunity to give an S.S. officer an "accident" during a battle.

pandaman1982

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> oh my god. they JUST got away from WWII and now they're going back? ( i know it's a different dev, thanks)Do they not realize that COD4 is the best one, patially because it's not WWII.

SoulPunch

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> The only way I could see this as a good thing is if Activision was pushing for a new CoD game to make them even /more/ money and IW said they'd be taking their time to do it so in comes Treyarch exclaiming "We'll pound one out for you!! And In WII!! The kids love that!!"

As long as IW get to work on CoD6 like they want it thanks to someone else milking the cash cow in their stead I'm fine with (waiting until CoD6 comes out and not touching CoD5. It may turn out decent enough or may be a total piece of sh)it.

Parsifal

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> WWII sucks cock....leave it be.

kgetz3

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> Sweet Jesus, what's wrong with these people? COD3 was a piece of shit. IW came and TOTALLY redeemed their series, and now these asshats get to go fuck it up again? Seems like only the evened numbered CODs will be worth it. Ya know, Activision, you don't HAVE to put one out every year. MS could've put out a new numbered Halo every year but they didn't. Just saying.

ca$h

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> The CBI theatre would at least be something different. My grandfather was squadron leader of 490th Missile Squadron, known as the Burma Bridge Busters, and pioneered the "hop-bombing technique" for taking out bridges.
Be kinda neat if they had a mission about that. Especially if they credit him properly.

BMErdin

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> @Witzbold: "the only way Id like to see another WWII game is from the perspective of the German side."
 
That perspective has been good for cinema, at least. Certainly has the potential to offer a little more insight than the usual faire, if done well.
 
I'm not sure it's the "only" way for me to be interested... but I'd DEFINITELY be into it.





dv8godd

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> Wait, is my prediction going to be correct? Will there be a Burma game in which you slowly die of dysentary and malaria?

mixmastermind

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> Aw fuck it, heres the link to that guys post.

darthmole12`s insightful post on the IW / *whateverthenameofthepeoplewhodidcod3was* situation.

Witzbold

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> @Zenian: If that was true, then why did IW do COD4? Not to mention skipping over from COD2 to COD4.

With all the positive press IW got on COD4, I highly doubt they would ditch the series.

Someone on the first announcement of this SAD SAD NEWS had a rather sound theory on why this travesty will take place. Im too lazy to link to it at the moment so go back and take a look for yourself. It shouldnt be too hard to find.

Witzbold

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> As fubared as this may sound, the only way Id like to see another WWII game is from the perspective of the German side.

Since Im sure they have some interesting stories to be told.

Witzbold

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> Now I havnt done the research to prove this at all but, has anyone ever thought that maybe treyarch is taking over CoD5 because IW isnt PLANNING to make another CoD?
Two things would stop a franchise from continuing, either the company (Activision) really doesnt like making money, or they have no means to continue it. If indeed IW isnt planning to continue this franchise a CoD5 of any sort will likely rake in more cash than just dropping it and making another shooter right in its place.
Again, I didnt do the research to know that IW refused to make another game but...it seems like the most likely answer to the "WHY ACTIVISION!?!?! WHYYYYY!?"



Zenian

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> Oh yay, it's "The Thin Red Line: The Game"

J-Fro

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> Still sucks. i don't care how many times you camoflouage WWII it's still stale. Why does Activision choose Treyarch?

KEITH1437

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> A level in Malaya with authentic local dialogues and dramatic sequences involving Japanese army and their brutal occupation. That's all I'm asking.

It would be fun to start off with a level that makes you infiltrate a shack where a local lady was about to get raped by a Japanese soldier then you become Mr. British hero of the day filling him with lead.

All at 60fps.

lamusiqa

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> Stop with the Treyarch COD games already Actiblizztard.

silentbobfan

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> @edb87:

Because the most intense portions of the game will be scripted sequences of getting diarrhea, stepping on land mines, banging STD-ridden hookers, and shooting civilians.

Providence

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> No IW? No deal, Howie!

@Zeichrat: See, this person is brilliant. Why couldn't IW do a Vietnam CoD?

edb87

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> @SaintEmpire: Yeah, somebody should do a good Vietnam game, that´s a war I would love to see done right. There´s a lot of battles and territories to be explored in this war... just imagine an Apocalypse Now boat sequence... AWESOME!!!.

PJ Moreno

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> Ill have to see closer to the time of realese will i get it or not. I whish it would be set in modern warfare still because cod4 is the BEST!!!!!!

Seamonkey92

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> New CoD game = good
WW2 = I'll settle for that
Pacific Theatre = Awesome
Treyarch = Ahhh crap

Plus to mention it probably will just be a console-only CoD, where's the fun in that for us PC-ers? Honestly, IW could go back to fighting with muskets and make it awesome. Treyarch might as well copy some set battles from IW, because at least that would work.

Sober

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> As far as im concerned, no IW, no CoD.

But i am glad that they are bringing the Pacific battles to the forefront.

Ra is on That 70s Show

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> Well, thats a weird move to take the series. I mean, it makes it look like CoD going modern was a bad move, when it clearly wasn't. I think Treyarch should go back to making side games for Call of Duty like Call of Duty 2: Big Red One. Oh well, there will always be Call of Duty 6 or Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2.

Soralinkyuna

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> Treyarch has never made a good call of duty game in my opinion. Infinity Ward seems to agree when they say that they should have been working on call of duty "3" not "4". It makes sense that it will be taking place in WWII. I wouldnt say its regressing because it isnt Infinity Ward. The next IW game will most likely be great regardless of setting but I will shit my pants if they do another call of duty set during WWII. IW makes the games they want to make and they make them damn well. Treyarch...queer as a 3 dollar bill.

C-Section

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> the only way I see this game being great would be some kind of creative twist.

kind of like the "Leftenant" Price level on COD4.

COD5 would go back and forth between WW2 and the present since the fighting occurs on the same battlefield or whatever with the soldier and his grandfather.

rob himself

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> There's been more than a couple of comments about doing some levels in the Philippines. I say sure, why not; but some of it had better be from the POV of the local forces. I'm not talking about being a GI and linking up with the local leader, I want to see a level where you play as an actual Filipino. I'm under the impression that most people see the Philippines as just this nation that the Americans liberated, and that now (present-day Philippines, that is) it's all just sex tours and kidnappings and whatnot. Show people that there once was a time when Americans turned to their Filipino comrades for help.

Heck, I think the surveillance and subsequent raid on the prison camp in Cabanatuan City would make for a great stealth mission a la the Price/McMillan level in CoD4. Lots of sneaking around and avoiding contact, a lot of hiding in plain sight and then an explosive finish.

not_tom_brokaw

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> Hmm maybe Call of Duty will follow in Star Trek's example where even numbered ones = good, odd numbered ones = bad. I guess this means God is going to be a boss in Call of Duty 5.

goat999

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> Wait... I retract my previous statement. Just found out Treyarch was doing it and not IW.

Iron_Dragon_2.0

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> @scarshapedstar: First, I'm 36. Second, don't assume I'm ignorant because you're missing my point. I'm not even sure what your larger point was supposed to be, honestly.... so let me further clarify mine.
 
I'm well aware of the propaganda that surrounded the Japanese and the Germans both... and I'm certainly aware that the Japanese were painted as more subhuman. I'm saying that, at the time, the war-time actions of the two were rather different on a tactical level... one of which western minds could paint in clear western definitions of "good vs. evil"... the other of which we could barely grasp their actions.
 
Germans, for the most part, played by the accepted rules of war for western countries... or at least put on a show when it came to the activity of war. POWs were taken, soldiers surrendered when outnumbered and assured of defeat, civilians didn't toss themselves from cliffs because they feared western armies would eat their young (as said the Japanese propaganda of Americans). That the Germans committed human atrocities beyond measure wasn't being debated by me... but their soldiers didn't clime aboard planes to fly as human missiles into the sides of boats, nor did they run screaming with decades-old firearms uphill into American machine-gun emplacements because they figured they couldn't possibly lose.
 
From a fundamental tactical level, the Japanese saw surrender as dishonorable and victory as a foregone conclusion. Even after two nuclear explosions and signs of eminent defeat, the war cabinet remained evenly split as to whether they should keep fighting to the last woman and child. They didn't fight or approach battle the same way as westerners had grown accustomed... which made them difficult for western soldiers to understand. To this day, to western minds which are seeped in individualism, though the idea of a self-sacrificial approach may be glorified in some of our heroes, the idea taken to the extreme of a "hive mind" isn't part of our culture. The thought that dropping two hydrogen bombs probably saved more civilian Japanese lives than it took is still rather baffling to us, I think. Japan was fully prepared to engage in a long, drawn-out war for their mainland which included EVERYONE as a soldier... Americans certainly didn't, and still don't, think that way. Unless you watch Red Dawn repeatedly, I suppose.
 
My point is, from the perspective of the WAR being fought, Americans understand how Germans engaged in the activity of war much better than how the Japanese fought... because the war was being fought with the same rulebook. I'm not talking about the larger motivations behind the war itself... I'm talking about the actions within actual combat.
 
Beyond that, my primary point before this side-track, was how those actions translate into a game... which was the point of the article. The American soldiers that fought in the Pacific theater on the ground came back much more scarred on average than the soldiers that fought on the ground in Europe and Africa. It was just outright slaughter, hell on earth, nothing glorious to be found in it on either side. It was rushing up on shore getting shot at and shelled just like Omaha beach or it was systematically killing an enemy that was too stubborn to realize it had lost and would not surrender. There wasn't the same glorious celebration of emancipating captured villages and countries... it was an enemy that we didn't relate to performing acts that defied explanation. It just doesn't sound like a pleasurable gameplay experience to me.











dv8godd

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> Meh the machine guns handle like crap in CoD 4 or they're 100% accurate in full auto a mile away. I'll happily go back to my bolt action WW2 weapons.

Also CoD 5 might be the first GOOD WW2 game to take place in the pacific theater. God knows all the others have sucked.

Also for the people bitching about too many WW2 shooters... Right now there are too many fucking modern day shooters. It's the other over populated time period so I fail to see what all the bitching is about.

Iron_Dragon_2.0

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> After COD4 this is a HUGE disappointment. WIth COD4 the level of ALL FPS have been stepped up considerably. From the enemy A.I. your squad A.I. the way it runs, everything. Top notch stuff. Making it modern was the shot in the arm that this series needed.

The only negative drawback to the game I can honestly say is the ONLINE yup the online. Not because it's bad. It's ridiculously good and addictive. But the fact that you need to touch it to get the full experience.

But the total pkg is amazing. unless Treyarch does something to to top this years COD4 I'm waiting for the next one from Infinity Ward.

FunKrusher

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> Meh. COD3 was lousy. COD4 is the hotness.

I'm coo with COD4 for now.

balls187

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> Alright, can't wait for Call of Duty 6.

SonicNirvana

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> Hey, Luke...disappointing indeed but it doesn't matter if it's in the Pacific theater. Treyarch's doing it. So I'd bet money it's not going to be as good as CoD4 unless treyarch pulls a rabbit out of their hat.

@Lysergio: hmmm interesting point but...I was one of those people that played the Wii version of CoD3 because of the superior controls. Although I loved the controls (far better than Red Steel, still better than Metroid Prime 3 and closer to MoH:H2 than lame ass IGNWii would lead you to believe)the game got boring about 3/4 of the way though it. I loved the first 4 stages though and found myself playing through those multiple times. Even now...compare CoD3 on Wii to MoH:H2 and CoD3 is by far the superior game in the single play campaign. If CoD3 on Wii had at least 8 player online, I'd still be playing it today. The controls were that good, the graphics and presentation are far and away better than MoH:H2 and yet MoH scored high even though it's another EA hack job port from PSP. I didn't play the PS3 version (no splitfish controller at the time) and I refused to buy the 360 version (no alternative to dual analog = dealbreaker no purchase)

With that said, do I want Treyarch delivering another CoD? No. After CoD 4 and the total lack of multiplayer on the wii version of CoD3, I'd rather see a more capable/proven developer make CoD5. But hey...I could be totally wrong and Treyarch could have something to prove and blow us all away with a stellar game. We'll see.

Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> Well at least they're going to the Pacific. I never understood why the Pacific was not really used as subject matter for a FPS anyway. Hopefully this game will include the battle for Iwo Jima. That would be something. Regardless, Treyarch and WWII? It all seems like a big step backwards for the series.

DJ Magneto

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> After listening to the BF:Vietnam soundtrack the other day, I was thinking that a CoD Vietnam game would be awesome. There are a variety of environments available and plenty of source material. Sign me up for an SKS.

G1ZM0

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> CoD5: The Never Ending War
Activision should have planned 5 as a direct sequel to CoD4. IW could have overseen the entire project and would have been able to keep the same feel for both games. CoD:MW2 would have be far more thrilling than fighting in WWII again. The market for WWII is oversaturated with games as it is and after CoD4 who wants to go back.


kman2686

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> Pacific Assault wasn't a bad game at all. I didn't find it to be quite as enjoyable as I found Allied Assault to be back when it came out, but it's far from the travesty that was Rising Sun.

roushimsx

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> "Wahh waahhh WW2, oh noes!! COD 3 is the worst game ever! Treyarch sucks!" Shut up babies. COD 3 was pretty damn great, so what we've seen WW2 before, does every new game have to be completely new every time?? I think most of you take gaming waaay too seriously. I play every day(for the past 20+ years) and don't have the trouble you people seem to have in finding FUN in a well made game(COD3 being one). If its not PERFECT, then its crap?? Whats so bad about 3 anyway? People always bash it yet I've not heard any specifics as to what made it "bad". I own it and played through it twice. Of course its not 4, but who was expecting that anyway?

Lysergio

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> I say lets give them a chance, Treyarch has big shoes to fill to make a game that can compare to COD4.

Streeks1984

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> @Plunkett: MOH:PA wasn't *terrible*. It wasn't great certainly, but it was at least mediocre I'd say. Now what was terrible was MOH: Rising Sun, which also takes place in the Pacific theater.

Either way, Pacific or not, CoD5 is a no buy for me!

darthmole12

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> Merrill's Marauders would also be prime material for a COD game, providing the American content and heavy action required: [www.ww2incolor.com]

kev007

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> I have to admit that it's really odd they would risk stepping backwards with this franchise after the great success that CoD 4: Modern Warfare has had. It really appears as though they are trying to slip in these "filler" sequels to ride the waves of the ones made by the better of the two developers.

Now that a pattern is beginning to form, I don't think they'll be able to milk the franchise in the same fashion for too long. Another WWII shooter does not sound too appealing, and I think a lot of fans are going to have a tough time going back after playing CoD 4.

Tomeeboy

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> How about....Call of Duty 5: The Pacific Rim Job?

uclabruin2

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> HEY TREYARCH - The Force 136 commandos were all over the Pacific theater: [www.burmastar.org.uk]
You could weave their stories throughout the game, using a common officer (and the unit name of course) as the common thread. Plus, it has crazy true-to-life Dirty Dozen type commando action, including cons being released from Changxi Prison and trained to fight! The material is so ripe for games!

kev007

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> @MJDeviant: Genocide doesnt seem like a fun gaming premise.

@Amsterdaam: Yeah because the Japanese where known for their civility and respect for human life. With the roaming death squads, rapeings, and what not.

Sonic84

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> No IW, No Buy!

EnigmaNemesis

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> If this is true, then I really don't know what to think - the whole WWII thing while epic and true in most respects is just kinda stale for video games, it really has been just beaten to death.
I hope this is some kind of mistake, it's like they are acknowledging the huge success of this game and not realizing is has more to do (the success) with it NOT being set in said time period - geeze, people love this game for many reasons; one being that it isn't a straight return to the same old, beat down, yawn inducing WWII ride.....I dunno, it's like they don't want to entirely acknowledge the success or they think they can just do whatever the hell they want now - WTF - really?

sir_blazeAlot

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> I'm really not understanding the relationship between IW and CoD. Should they just find another publisher and rename the Modern Combat series?

topaz420

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> @dv8godd:

"Nazis just seem to make a better iconic enemy... at least Americans understood that particular horror."

...how old are you? Jesus. I don't even know where to begin. Leaving aside the obvious matter of actually attacking us at Pearl Harbor, the Philippines, etc... if you look at the propaganda of the time, the Japanese were if anything portrayed as even more subhuman than the Nazis (for obvious racial reasons).

We were fighting Japan before and after we set foot in Europe.

It may be true now that Americans "understand" the Nazis better than Imperial Japan. But that's not the same as saying they "understood".

scarshapedstar

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> @keiichimorisato: I think Americans that were actively involved in that theater of operations were pretty aware of the horror. But yes, it's difficult for the existing general populace in America to comprehend the details and motivations. The Japanese were mostly cryptic to the west: no surrender, even civilians are the enemy (and not in the way that the U.S. had internment camps too... which we did, and it was lamentable, but we didn't starve our prisoners to death)... it was just difficult to understand. By contrast, the Nazis could be painted in very western images of black and white... which made for good cinema and later games.
 
Even if you take all that out and just focus on combat... it's difficult to have a hero character in the sort of battles the U.S. was involved in. Air and naval combat is good... but ground combat, from what I understand, was measured in long-standoffs punctuated by mass slaughters for both sides.
 
It might be possible to do one from a more Asian perspective, of course... though that'd probably drive the marketing department crazy over how to sell it... and so they'd just force an American into the lead role or something and mess it all up again.
 
I'm curious... but not exactly hopeful... for COD5. There's certainly potential to do something interesting in the Pacific, I just don't think the current market is open to the kind of ideas that would make it not suck, sadly.







dv8godd

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> @Islandkiwi: I wouldn't mind seeing a next gen version of the Revolutionary War either. But hell, does anybody remember how crazy Napoleon was? I think an action RPG version of the French Revolution and then the Napoleonic wars would be pretty sweet. They could even make it like Resistence and pull of a scifi gun FPS is they wanted too, with laser cannons at the battle of Trafalgar. I know it will probably never happen, but it would be awsome to see.

InsipidWays

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> @dv8godd:

Which is a pity that the Americans don't understand the horror that Asia had to go through with the Japanese.

They did some horrible things that were inline with what the Nazis did. Even to this day, the older generation still holds a lot of contempt towards Japan because of these war crimes.

Google up Unit 731 or Nanking Massacre, just for a glimpse.

keiichimorisato

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> woah! wait people! i demand an apology! Pacific assault was the exellent game for the pc. if you can still find it, buy it, because it is incredible. rising sun was the console one that made buildings crumble and babies swear profusely.

@ Amsterdaam
Actually, i've heard rumors Rising sun was popular at TGS and sold alright in japan. who knew?

apelaw9

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> @Amsterdaam - While you're quite right, it's hard to say too much about US tactics being questionable considering the conduct of the Japanese in the Second World War.

Anyway, like half the people on this thread, I wouldn't mind playing a Pacific Theatre Call of Duty, but I'm not interested in playing one developed by Treyarch. Perhaps they will get the message and stop making fill-in disappointments.

I wouldn't want to play a Metal Gear Solid 5 developed by Midway, or a Virtua Fighter by EA Chicago or a Resident Evil made by Acclaim. If Activision want to keep their top level franchises in high regard they ought not to farm them out to bargain talent.

Kinketsu

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> @Coquiton: I do agree. But I wonder how much interest there is in the average consumer for true "realism". I think there's definitely a market segment that is aching for that kind of experience, but I fear that the mainstream isn't ready for a shooter that is truly horrifying and depressing.
 
And the niche segment that IS ready isn't likely to be large enough or vocal enough to support $10-$20 million in development for such a beast.
 
More likely that we'll get a shooter designed to be "fun"... which kinda shoots the idea of doing a realistic Pacific theatre game as an American in the foot. Accurate would be an AI that just runs at you like fodder or camping in places you can't enter nor see them in.... or when you're on the losing side, just getting slaughtered on a beach by gun emplacements and mortar fire. Realism, for sure, because you're either completely overpowered or underpowered... but not a formula that makes you feel like a hero.
 
I'd like to be proven wrong, but I think it's going to take "baby steps" to get to the kind of FPS you are describing... and Treyarch probably won't be making it. Even if some dev team DOES try to make it, their publishers and marketing people will stick their fingers in and screw it up in the current development climate.







dv8godd

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> @TJordan0331:

COD3 sucked because the levels were poorly designed and the encounters were poorly set up. the 1st person action events were terrible and the development team only had 8 months to make the game.

the true definition of "let's just get one out".

as far as the pacific theater, it's ripe for stuff that COD can make great. having been a veteran of making MOH:RS, the source material is incredible. it;s all up to execution, which the COD series can do seemingly effortlessly.

do a little homework, the japanese were evil, evil opponents and did some trememndously horrible things.

i think COD would be silly to not try and apply the perfect shell of the game systems and mechanics over to the pacific theater. that could be amazing.

ortholomeux

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> the only reason for me to buy this game is if they set the location mostly in the Philippines...the main character will be rubbing elbows with Douglas MacArthur! How awesome would that be!!

bubuli

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> Oh god, just another WWII games... it's getting boring, but, to tell the truth, I always enjoy watching times to times WWII movies such as Saving Private Ryan (I watched last night on HBO Asia). But, didn't Treyarch realized there are too much WW2 games these days?

Talking about Saving Pvt Ryan, think only Brothers In Arm could deliver the atmosphere of the film (frequently use swear words like f*ck, telling a lot about each soldier's character and story, and most of all, GORE!). But, Road to Hill 40 was too suck because of bugs (like bullets keep flying through obstacles without any problem). Should I buy Earned in Blood?

shadow_judge

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> In case no one else mentioned it, don't forget that Battlefield 1942 also had a collection of pacific theater maps.

Edge of Blade

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> WWII is played out, didn't you get the memo Treyarch? Please, stop with the rehashed WII shooters. Make COD5 in the future, its the obvious choice.

cybereality

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> Something tells me this one won't be selling well in Japan. I, for one, would not like to "virtually" drop atomic bombs on innocent civilians, but that's just me being Japanese I assume. The US tactics in the rim were more than slightly questionable, and I think that atmosphere in a game like that is something many gamers will not enjoy.

Amsterdaam

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> Why not the Revolutionary War? Or the Civil War? I want a musket that only fires once a minute, and limping around with gangrene and/or scurvy.

Islandkiwi

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> Think they will learn their lesson from COD3? Does anyone but hardcore gamers pay attention to who did which COD title?

inajeep

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> People keep talking crap about CoD3 but never back anything up. All they say is "it sucked". Details people, details. CoD3 used the same control setup, looked the same and introduced vehicles (other than Cod:uo). People pissed and moaned about it but with never anything solid. Because they couldn't. It was the same game but with more in it.

TJordan0331

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> There's maybe one way they can save this game for me: have campaigns that are not from the POV of the British, or the Americans.

Playing the Chinese People's Liberation Army, or the Kuomingtang, would be an interesting game of old enemies getting together, with backstabs and betrayals. The late war Soviet campaign would also be an interesting change. Anything other than the tired old things done over and over again.

FhnuZoag

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> IW are probably working on next (modern combat) installment - with dev times being so long these days.

WW2 with updated technology mightn't be so bad...

2kreative

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> "it might not be so bad"

It's being made by Treyarch. It's pretty much impossible for it to not be bad.

CyN1caL

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> This is quite disappointing. The Pacific Theater might be interesting, but, Call of Duty 4 has made me realize I am burned out on WWII shooters, regardless of where they take place. How about we have a WWII shooter where you are Russian, or a Nazi (sarcasm).

Call of Duty 4 proved to the gaming world that gamers want something new and exciting, this back track is a huge mistake.

dalejrfanfreak

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> Why, after Call of Duty, Call of Duty 2, and Call of Duty 4 being incredibly successful due in no small part to Infinity Ward, would they go back to the developers of the mediocre Call of Duty 3 and earlier average expansions?

Are they just milking on the franchise name to save money from pushing out the blockbusters like Infinity Ward's contributions for each game in the series?

This is an incredibly moronic decision. Call me when Call of Duty 6 is around the corner.

Heliophage

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> Im sick of WWII era guns. Since a big part of the game itself for me is about the guns.

Ive seen pretty much every single WWII gun possible, and theres nothing really new that they could add. The Japanese forces if it is going to be in the pacific didnt exactly have a "varied" arsenal so its not all that interesting.

Even if the stage is set in the pacific, I mean what else can they do that would make the game worth playing?

Short of possibly letting us control the cannons of the battleship and allow us to pound an island into dust. Or flying a fighter and buzz the beaches.

Witzbold

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> treyarch bombed cod3... I can't believe activision farmed out IF's series to another company... I'm suprised collier doesn't hate activision more than EA aftre that move... :)

giant_historical_crabs

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> I've played COD, COD2, and the COD4 demo. Can someone explain to me this thing about Infinity Ward and Treyarch? Why are two different companies putting together different sequels to the same game? Is treyarch terrible at making these games?

Thwick

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> @Bon5ai: @dv8godd:

This is why the game could be good.
It could show a very dark side of the war never actually portrayed.

Let's face it, for the most part, Americans in WWII are portrayed as Gung-Ho G.I. Joes that take down an evil army with their pinkies.

Sure, we can look at WWII that way if we try hard enough, especially if we look at the European theater.

But, if Treyarch makes an "accurate" Pacific game, it will be much harder to pull off that view of a Americans. Which means they'll have to include the much less-seen "dark side" of war, so-to-speak.

...

But, of course, I'm intesely likely to be completely wrong, and Treyarch will pull off a "Medal of Honor: Rising Sun."
Oh god, I just threw up in my mouth a little.

Coquiton

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> Thumbs down from me. I'll give the game a chance but lets face it, COD3 is horrible compared to COD2 and COD4 so there's no reason to be excited over COD5.

IronsUK

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> I think it's ridiculous to say that you're going to pass on a game that hasn't even been created yet. Wisdom would suggest you at least wait until the game is in playable form. I think it's not very bright to pre-judge games, people, etc.

Now, do I have high hopes for this? No ... no, I don't. However, I'm not willing to say it sucks before the code is even finished.

jayntampa

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> I'm glad they're donig a Pacific game. Everyone complaning is acting like this will be another COD3, and the game will be totally different. I really hope the focus on places like the Philippines, that would be interesting since everyone seems to ignore that part of the war.

Mr.Waffleton

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> I want to see one that has a lot of Naval battles. Imagine running around the ship, manning guns, fixing damaged equipment and holes, and aiming the big guns of a battle ship at an opposing aircraft carrier or shore emplacement. Of course, eventually you'll have to do some island hopping and get the usual FPS stuff.

I just think a little shipboard action would be fun.

PapaBear434

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> I'll probably pass, I don't know why they feel they have to make a game called Call of Duty 5, when they could just get the team (Treyarch) to work on an expack for the game, while IW works on the next title. Thier orignal expacks weren't that bad, should just add the Sptenaz special forces storyline and suck up some more cash.

drifter13

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> that can be a good strategy.

you have two companys, and a lifecycle of 5 years, so you release a title of a brand every 2.5 years.

Tei

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> Pass.

When we get back to the future, someone give me a call.

BlackDove

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> I really don't trust Treyarch with anything. Every one of their Call of Duty titles have been bad. Spider-man 3 I didn't play enough to give an opinion on. Even if Call of Duty 5 was in modern setting, I wouldn't touch it if it doesn't have Infinity Ward's logo on the box.

I'll just wait for Call of Duty 6 when Infinity Ward does its 3rd successful sequel. Until then, I'll keep enjoying Call of Duty 4.

Sorwah

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> Treyarch and back to WWII? I'll pass on this one.

Hauler

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> Man, good thing the real people behind CoD will have some time to craft their next seller.

... but I agree, IW should just make a new IP... but they'll never do because part of the success of the new CoD games is riding on the franchise name, and nothing else.

I haven't played this one *yet*, but from what I hear, it could overtake the best CoD game, the very first one.

DigiMish

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> Ah.. finally back to good old WWII.
Thats good news

Freduardo

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> I can't believe they are going back to the most over used time period in games. How can you innovate when it has been told so many times. I love COD4. There are plenty of other wars to use. Come on ActivisionBlizzard.

ghnvt

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> What's with the Indians in that photo? Based on video games I thought only white people fought for the allies in WWII?

XbhaskarX

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> It'd be nice to see a decent WWII game focused on the Pacific theatre.
 
Though I think the location itself is rather stacked so as not to be enjoyable if you fight as an American. From what I know of land battles in the Pacific... there's not much entertainment to be had from that mess. When the U.S. was losing, it was horrid... and when the U.S. was winning, it was just as horrid. Who wants to fight an enemy that just rushes at your gun or waits in a cave to be burned out? Conditions for victory: slaughter everyone... you'll know you won when Japanese women holding their babies are jumping from cliff-tops to their deaths despite your desperate pleas with them to stop.
 
Nazis just seem to make a better iconic enemy... at least Americans understood that particular horror. "Good vs Evil" works better than "senseless slaughter" as a premise.





dv8godd

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> the NAM godamn , the NAM!

SaintEmpire

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> Of course it's crappy news that they're making a WWII shooter, but the game being set in the Pacific is great news.

I assume they will do Iwo Jima, Guadalcanal, Okinawa, etc. If they branch out to cover Burma and China, that would be amazing.
After the "death from above" mission in CoD4, I'd love to see a bombing level. And how about taking out fighters with an AA gun at Pearl Harbor or Midway?

XbhaskarX

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> OMG, This brings back memories from MOH: Rising Sun. Horrible load times. I played Rising Sun online for two years. If cod does do a remake I'll cry, thoroughly.

LittlestLamshi

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> I was never interested in COD before COD4, unless this version features robot hitlers then so far i'm not interested.

WiggyDee

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> @Hiero Glyph: It's not unusual for two development teams to trade off between sequels of long running series. Square Enix does it with Final Fantasy and Ubisoft does it with Splinter Cell, both to varying degrees of success.

Agies

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> Ok not going to touch COD5. Will wait for COD6.

Witzbold

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> Maybe IW is going to move on to some new IP. After playing COD4 for the last 2 weeks I really hope they do. COD 4 is the only COD game I actually liked. So they must be doing something right.

Ballaboy311

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> Boooo! Looks like CoD4 will remain the only Call of Duty I bother picking up.

Agies

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> Yeah this is crappy news, hopefully I can explain it well enough for my clan to stay the hell away.

SinisterSkull

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> I'll pass on another WW2 shooter thanks, its the reason the only Call of Duty game I own is number 4. Also why have they changed the developer again?
Heres hoping Infinity Ward are already making COD6 or another modern shooter for next year.

Malidictus

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> It seems strange to have a franchise keep the same name, despite having two very seperate developers. Imagine seeing a Project Gotham Racing game being developed by Neversoft, another developer owned by Activision. It just doesn't seem right that two developers can work on the same franchise while one is taking huge steps forward and the other is saying "if it ain't broke, don't fix it."

The only logical explanation is that Treyarch has been developing a new Call of Duty game for some time now and is too far and invested in the project to change/cancel it. It's really too bad that all you need to say is WWII and any FPS fan begins to cringe without knowing it.

Here's hoping to some revolutionary gameplay that will save Call of Duty 5 from being the bomb that was dropped on Hiroshima.

Hiero Glyph

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> I keep pressing enter......but anyways, it would get the topic out there more (yes, I know celebs try their damndest) and I'm sure it would start many arguments, aka discussion.

MJDeviant

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> I have a feeling that the CoD games are from now on only going to be good every other time.

stagman

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> WW2 in Asia? I say bring in Japan and Philippines for the most part...I might skip it though

kingme

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> Yay for Pacific!

I want to kill some Japanese!

Kromis

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> If they went the current Africa situation, like Darfur and the Congo, that would be insane.

MJDeviant

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> Dear Activision: I am not buying this game. Call of Duty 3 is the worst Xbox 360 game I own. I don't want another WWII shooter from these developers. I think it's stupid for you to dilute this AAA brand with a knockoff that isn't from the heart of IW. In fact if you had any brains you'd split this into a side series called "Call of Honor" or "Call of Valor" or some such other marketable nonsense.

otakuhouse

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> Sad that they are returning to WW2, also the pacific is an odd choice. The Japanese employed non-standard infantry practices, such as at Guadalcanal. Will the game feature the hero Americans just entrenching them selves, and waiting to mow down Kawaguchi's forces charging with swords at night, after they were not lost anymore and actually found the Americans. Way to go surprise attack! Lets not forget the heroic abandoning of the US Marines on land by the navy, when the air craft carrier hauled ass out of there leaving them without air support. Oh, such great times in the pacific.

Bon5ai

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> The way I see it, a good game is a good game, no matter what war it's in or the developer.
Sure, there's been thousands of WWII games. Sure, Treyarch doesn't have the best record.

But, that doesn't mean this can't be a good game, especially considering only two MoH have touched the setting.

Here's hoping!

Coquiton

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> Well looks like most people will know to stay away from CoD5 and wait for CoD6 from IW.

y2julio

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> @SnakeCL: Doh, butterfingers. IF=IW Infinity Ward.

SnakeCL

]]> <![CDATA[Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific?]]> I think that most of the gaming public that knows IF isn't making the game is going to stay the heck aw