Or maybe I just don't understand properly its not as if I haven't played SFIII, I just don't use or rely on parries very much as a tactic...

ForgeAus

Bison would make a Logical boss, but I'm not so certain rerunning that old formula is a good idea... although Gill and/or Garuda didn't necessarily make good substitutes and I can't see them leaving behind Akuma... and I do of course wish to see at least some newbies which looks like its going to happen anyway... also loss of parries isn't such a bad thing (although personally I'd use a groove system like the CvS series), but making it SFEX4 isn't the right way to go either... (if Capcom own any of the EX characters a few interesting ones might be Darun, P. Pullum and the cycloids...) We also never got to meet D.D. from an Capcom Fighters Evolutions game that was cancelled which reminds me Haggar still hasn't made it to a fully fledged SF roster.

As long as there's variety and not just another game full of shotokaners... I hear theres some ultra-move which sounds like its a super to me (whereas what were supers are kinda dropped in as mini-supers which makes me think ES-style it seems or if you like Ultras are analogous to SFEX's Meteor Combos) and something about the camera angles changing for them so it is a little more SFEX-like in that but its good to see at least some more 3D being added that way... I suspect they do but I can't think exactly how even the latest Tekkens take much more advantage of 3D anyway... I'd be just as happy if SFIV were a completely 2D game...

ForgeAus

StratfordX

NickPLG

U.2.K.

Gionell

Gouki and Akuma are both Japanese words. The "Sheng Long" is obviously a reference to the Catonese Hong Kong nicknames for Kung Fu stars like Bruce Lee.

omfglearntoplay

Yun/Yang were modified versions of Fei Long, don't you think? They were my favorite characters of sf3, just like Fei Long was my fav of SSF2T.

omfglearntoplay

Agree, 2d has always seemed snappier/speedier and just better. I wish the gaming companies would get a clue.

omfglearntoplay

Specifics for no parries for me: I am a huge huge huge diehard sf2 fan, and I am hyped about this game. I played as competitively as possible in my area of the US and always enjoyed it. Sadly, when sf3 came out most of the serious gamers had left my area and it never was the same. So, parries are something I (and my old friends) never got used to.

omfglearntoplay

Demolition Debbie

Ah, I don't know where it originated. But it had everyone trying to do it. I wasted at least a dollar on Honda back then, lol.

I remember playing SF2 arcade in Aiea. I spent most of my time in the Safeway shopping center down near Aliamanu. It was nuts when they started getting the glitch arcades, SF2.5 and all that. I used to play this glitched version, using Vega. Wall jumps gave you the ability to throw the character from any point on the screen after he touches the wall. It was instant win most of the time!

A lot of players in Hawaii were very competitive, and even showed sportsmanship by allowing the loser of the first round to have the second after a thorough beating. Can't really blame them, there isn't much to do there!

Moonchilde

jebus2477

gjm

jessejericho

I've played SFII in many American cities. I've played SFII in Japan... NOTHING, and I MEAN NOTHING could compare to playing SFII in Honolulu. I would say Honolulu was the capital of SFII during those days.

Fun Factory's all over Oahu would have 20+ machines, and this was before tournaments!

rainofwalrus

Don't get me wrong, I love the SF games. Hell, I've bought more iterations of SFII on a variety of systems than I can count. I want to see the series continue to move forward and evolve, though, and it sounds like that's what will happen with SF4. Will some people be upset (and whine, bitch, and moan endlessly on the internet for months once it's released)? Sure. But, meanwhile, the rest of us will be having a blast playing a new entry in one of the best series in the genre.

ColoradoCNC

Camzor

Never played SF3!! I think Capcom sticking to 2D is a great decision especially with the 3D rendering. I am hoping for a collector edition that includes older SF games.

Moh

jessejericho

Comments from gamers, can help finetune a game to make it great.

fallingdove

D1498

"BLOGEEK IS GOING TO BE OFFLINE FOR A WHILE. IT SEEMS THAT WE PISSED A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE. WHILE THEY KEEP TRYING TO GET US OUT, LOOK FOR THE NEWS IN THE INTERNET. HAVE FUN."

Destruction

But I'm not saying this is bad until I try it and these are just early screenshots if they are real. Also the feet have always looked big to me in street fighter but I think it's just more noticeable to some people seeing in in 3D because they scale the characters bigger. In the screenshot on this page they look the same as they always where to me.

Actually that screenshot didn't look bad at all shrunk down and put on this page. It almost looked like the HD 2D SFIV that I was hoping for. I haven't given up hope though.

smoke_tetsu

gjm

The whole Shen Long thing is just as bad as Hollywood casting a Caucasian actor to play the lead character of a Chinese myth, Goku! ...reminds me of the old Kung Fu show, anyway, I digress.

I hope the game looks better in motion. The first picture looked pretty cool, but the picture of Ryu and Ken together looks pretty bad. I'm worried about this game turning out to be an updated Street Fighter EX.

American_N_Japan

The visuals are a mixed bag. The background is amazing. Its very very well done. The characters however are very very bad. They're ridiculously bulky in all the wrong places. Their bodies are way too big for their heads, and they have huge hobbit feet. The faces are way weird looking as well.

Making a good 3d fighting game is next to impossible. I can't even recall a series that incorporated aerial attacks as well as special moves, except for rival schools, and it was only ok. It was never really technical and so it went by the wayside.

People STILL play SF3:TS and SF2:ST and MvC2 even though they're old games because they're very technical.

This game can still possibly be good, but they've set the bar very very high, and if it fails in even the slightest bit, people will still be playing SF3:TS after this game has long since been forgotten.

RPGEmperor

Hey, I used to live in Honolulu when SF2 first came out. The Thunderclap was a huge rumor. I forgot how you were supposed to do it, by holding back for 30 seconds and then forward plus all 3 punch buttons.

Wasn't Sushi-X the ninja avatar for the EGM editor back in the early 90s?

Moonchilde

slapBOXmaster

The picture of the hurricane kick does look like shite though.

iainttha1

fallingdove

rainofwalrus

rainofwalrus

It was like early SFII fans had some sort of psychic connection. It most certainly wasn't the Usenet or BBS, only a select few were that geeky (whistles innocently) in 1991.

Perhaps phone relays... but still, SFII rumors moved across the planet at breakneck speeds.

rainofwalrus

rebelphoenix

Elixir

That would be hardcore sweet. However, that takes a ton of animation time, and most of the time game animations never take muscle movement into consideration, and we get odd looking animations 99% of the time.

To the rest of the people complaining about the graphics:

Honestly, those two screens are less than 480p res. Of course there are going to be jaggies when the screens have been downscaled.

Take a look at the large screen and you see what it would look like near 720p.

There is also a lot of great work towards making this look like Street Fighter's artwork and style. Plus, they're even keeping the blue tone shadows that were used on SF3. Just look at Ken's knees and calves. This was a style used in the SF3 sprites, to use blue for character shadow instead of black. Just with this small detail I can tell they're doing as much as they can to bring SF's art style to 3D.

Moonchilde

If you don't think it adds excitement to the game and rewards a skilled player accordingly, look at the link Cactaur posted above.

Grave

[www.youtube.com]

Then decide you have better things to do with your life than perfecting parrys...

cactaur

Like the pics, but Ken does look a bit off doing that hurricane kick.

Shin-Kaiser

justhesh

elend

Not wild on the art style for the charafcters either. Why do they give the characters wierd mutant feet and huge fat lower legs? Crazy

f0cus

Black Arts Viper

IMHO SF3 3rd strike is still the pinnacle for 2d fighters.

Sunjammer

Generally, SF games have between 8 and 16 characters in their opening lineup with few exceptions. For the sake of argument, lets say there will be 12 new characters in addition to the old standbys, but that all SF2 characters have been named.

Who else could still exist or be cloned, and who would be young enough in Alpha and old enough in SF3 to make an appearance?

thecactusman17

Black Arts Viper

parasite_evil

Crazy_Buffet_Happens

But I hated the hadouken. Too transparent. It looks like a little eletrical spark, it it was about 20% bigger and with a more strong white center it would be better, IMO...

Wyld

Yossarian

phextin

epionx111

epionx111

Zero_

anyways, this art style would be nice for rival schools or even
better... powerstone 3, but this is starting to remind me of mortal
kombat's second 3d outing, but that wasnt so bad because mk never had the
depth that sf did. i guess we'll just have to see how it plays before
passing any judgement, it may be the best in the series, but from the
looks of things, my excitement is dwindling.

as for ppl sayin who cares about the story.. i do. and so do many others
that i know.. i think itd be much cooler for an advancement instead of
safely relying on 2. i liked half the ppl in 3, dudley was a much better
boxer than balrog. id like to see the original guys, bengus, akiman and
the crew creating characters. oh well.. maybe one day...

shouryuuken

huhwhat

ShinobiFist(PSN-XBL)

chantastic

SpuddOner

The screen looks great though. And i would be pissed if they didnt include all 12 original characters (8 + bosses) in this glorious new art style.

Thrillhaus

SuperMekman

:)

Look at those jagged edges in the picture of Ken giving Ryu a taste of the hurricane kick. It's as jagged as f**k and we all know the Wii can do jagged. *nods in approval*

Random J

Pal

KaneTaker

MURDERFACE

Random J

And here's hoping we acctually get some new and good characters this time arround!

Namrepus

Does anyone know of a game that features that? I know they did it back in the day with 2-D sprites, but it's different with characters running 30+ FPS. That would really polish the 3d animations.

MrSmiff

The other two pics though is WIN! ;p

rhugghed

Huh?

This game's style is very nice, and is just as visually impressive for what it's trying to pull off as SC and Tekken. I've never seen any anime/cel-shaded graphics that hold a candle to these few screenshots.

I also do believe these are real screenshots due to the jaggies. If only there was some filter to get rid of them and make the game look like the first official screenshot...

Mit

I care not if it looks 3D, as long as it doesn't play 3d.

The Amazing Exploding-Man

Sparx

LOL!!, that made my day.

DarkMan08

that screenshot looks cool s hell, but then look at the Hurricane Kick pic and it gets shot down. We need Cammy and Fei Long.

drbrownt0wn

Look at the picture with Ken doing the the hurricane kick. Look how bad his face is. Not to mention the background looks straight out of ShenMue for Dreamcast. Bad show, bad show.

If Capcom wanted to do a 3d fighter they should have resurrected Rival Schools. How sick was that game? I just feel like they are putting shame to the SF franchise like this. That screenshot barely looks up to par of what we've seen of the new Tekken or Soul Calibur. If it had to be 3d, they could have at least styled it better.

I don't know what else to say. Well, at least theres still SFII HD. Heres hoping that Capcom will come correct and make SFIII:Third Strike HD.

cybereality

Oh and Sheng Long was a joke from a while back, he doesn't actually exist. :\

So basically it just means Gouki, or Akuma rather.

Junker

::Drool::

YotaruVegeta

He's actually kind of likeable?

eastx

But I think it's good that they are doing a new system for a new generation, I'm willing to give it a shot.

(Also because it's been 8 goddamn years for them to come out with it, it better be good. D:<)

Junker

Karoshi

MEGA LOL!

lucasreis

Dragonzigg

Sparx

The new system even though we don't have better info, seens to be kinda "meh".

I'll remains skeptical about this game until I see some gameplay. And I really hope that Capcom change their minds and at least have the good reason to rename the game to Street Fighter EX4.

Lider

My fundamental question is whether or not this is more aptly described as Street Fighter EX 4.

Intellectualdiot

diablofreak

I, for one, cannot wait to see Capcom VS. Def Jam ICON: Fight For Mainstream Cash 2008. I heard Soulja Boy's ULTRA was that he supamans you and calls you a hoe.

aykay

Lrr

Grave

phalanges

DarkMan08

Yeah.

Suzaku

MetaKz

W/e though, time will tell, but I'm hoping all this new info is garbage.

00000000

I was also hoping to have resolution on Ryu training with Oro and becoming Akuma's opposite, and finally resolving the story with Akuma's death.

Ryu is destined to be the one to kill him, which is obvious after all this time of Akuma searching him out and constantly testing him.

Moonchilde

I am glad they are trying something new, but the faces, proportions, and backgrounds need to be polished. The art direction is fantastic, but it doesnt use as much processing power as a realitic looking game. Thats fine, I'm for it, but put that unused power towards polishing the hell out of every aspect of the game. You do that, you get noticed.

Pa7ronSain7

reddevil

feartheraven

Also they should do a remake of Street Fighter 1. Cept you know, multiplayer.

Not sure how I feel about the screenshots right now... They look kind of out of place like they don't blend with the environment enough.

ShishouMatt

bigman88zz

I also think the specials will go into some cinematic cut-scenes that will show an attack unique to each character, sort of like what was in the trailer with Ryu's charged Hadouken.

bigdude209

feartheraven

SSJPabs

And I'd be very weary of removing the parrying system if I were Capcom, if only because it could easily alienate the hardcore fan whose money will either make or break this project.

Intellectualdiot

zealousd

Oh well. Playing this on the Classic Controller is a fun little thought I can entertain until they make the official announcement that it's not getting any Wii-Love.

Robotube

AdmiralRupert

Now I actually liked the parry system... Lets hope this new stuff compensates.

@Anthropomancer: Err... howabout we compare the new games...
a) This looks way better than Guilty Gear 2 Overture
b) This is a FIGHTING game
c) Don't bring comparisons to other boards, cause we know you mean it bad will, so as much as we love GG, we're not siding with you.

Ultrasinc

logicaldefense

The blog says that, besides the specials, there will be ultra specials (kinda like a combo where you can throw a lot of moves at the same time, I think something like V gauge) and that apparently two new girls will appear in the cast of the game.

And the post also says that there might be some japanese test machines until the middle of 2008.

lucasreis

you can tell this game is going to come with a pack of steroid pills. Look at all those muscles.

crazyorloco

Isso me deixa feliz! (It makes me happy!)

lucasreis

Where have you been? Street Fighter HD's art is NOT being done by Capcom. >_> It's being developed by Backbone Entertainment and the art is by UDON. -NOT- Capcom.

Kia

KeithCourage

Anthropomancer

krunkjuice

You're all joking right? There is no Sheng Long. Theres Gouken if thats who you're mistakenly referring to. And Goutestu who was Akuma's and Gouken's master. But NO Sheng Long.

AsWater

Bokusatsu_Tenshi

KeroseneClimax

Ashurahori

First, I really wanted 2D sprites. I'm sure this will look good. I really dig the environments, but I'll have to wait and see the game in motion before I'm fully convinced with the characters. Right now they kinda look weird in that level.

Also, the lack of parries is SO disheartening. My god, that's what made SF3 SO great. I can't believe they completely abandoned the best addition to game since SF2. I find parrying even better than Super Arts. Not even the return of Zangief can save the lack of parries.

Man, I hope this game is good. But no parries makes think it's going to be screwed.

And I think having it take place between Super Turbo and 3 is a weird decision. Just seems like this should be a spin off of Street Fighter, than a fully-fledged Street Fighter 4.

RemyDuvalle

this just confirms my fears. Guess I'll havew to wait and see how it plays, but it's still not the street fighter game I've been waiting for.

Netnavi

Ruisu

Benjo

ara

Well not that new, but the nice modern 2D work is being done on the new PS3/360 arcade game coming.

EnigmaNemesis

Shame they didn't go with the sumi-e cinematic style in the trailer. I know it was just for looks, but come on, that would have been awesome. :D

BambooCactus

Different that Capcom is developing it themselves!

That is all that is needed to know.

EnigmaNemesis

Why cause they have Karate Gi on?

EnigmaNemesis

phextin

okenny :)

Snappywave

pandafresh

AnotherGamer

ara

Cornerb0y

okenny :)

The gameplay in SFIII is great but I can't say the same for the character selection. I do wish they'd move SFIV forward instead of backwards, but if it's fun it's fun.

VSpeck

jayntampa

reddevil

okenny :)

okenny :)

StrikerGold

That is what I am thinking ... would be really cool like that. Also I bet the camera pans at angles depending on the moves, thus why that shot looks like that. Give it a 3D effect all while not really effecting any 2D gameplay.

EnigmaNemesis

yairube

Werd. My guess is that some of those new gameplay mechanics discussed (hinted at) in the teaser trailer will also include a 3D move of sorts where, say for example, Ken's hurricane kick will knock the opponent into the wall (the visible part of the background) and then the entire stage will rotate so that the background that was once visible is now the left (or right) side of the stage. Still 2D, but with some minor 3D stage mechanics.

def PD

VakeroRokero

reddevil

Rabidsquirrel

reddevil

I wonder if they really put him in.

That would rule, hard.

BlackDove

MountainCool

I'm really liking the style of SFIV. Its like an isometric 2D that shifts depending on which side of the level you're on. Can't wait to see some video.

StrikerGold

I dont think anyone cared about SF3 compared to the 2 series!

Just sayin is all

EnigmaNemesis

If these "ultra" moves do exist and really are auto combos, it's an enormous step back. Unless, of course, you're really into Killer Instinct or something. Still trying to wait and be cautiously optimistic until we get the info from a more credible source.

Grave

Online play sounds frustrating without a perfect connection but it's better than no online play at all.

hueg_boss

SF III CHARACTERS NOOOOOO!

The SF 3 cast was great, as was the fighting system, it's sad to see that none of that will make the transition.

I mean, Dhaslim over Necro? Really?

Also what does Balrog have that Dudley doesn't? Besides a hideous look.

Something tells me this is the "People who never heard of SF3 will love it!" Kind of game.

Bluur

This may sound like a joke but I seriously hope they bring Dan back too. ;D

Witzbold

Sheng Long-awesome!

@Straw Dog: Nobody said that about DMC3, though that may have been because people were trying to forget 2.

Kirbytheslayer: In-Kirby XMB

Michael McWhertor

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EnigmaNemesis

Straw_Dog

=O

The game is set in 3D world with 2D gameplay ... but the camera may pan and tilt, etc!

EnigmaNemesis

lalahsghost

Straw_Dog

nardsy

vizion

vizion

Witzbold

EnigmaNemesis