"hey girl, I like your titties. What's your number?" Sad to say but its true story.
And I've been dating him ever since.

Ridiculous, is what men are. Also I think that because they are online and not in person, men have more courage to say such things to women. In real life, there's just no way he'll get a chick go out with him by saying such things, much less sleep with him.

Senshik

essko

Mia-Mo

RawSteelUT

I personally was never amazed of the concept of a female gamer. Now if a dog was playing videogames and barking trash growls...

questworld

bodmodkub

I think it's a result of the gradual slutification (wow, I've just invented a new awesome word!) prevalent in society. Girls learn young that they can get attention from males by acting as sluts, and reap what they had sown later when they finally become mature enough not to fall into that and men their own age still act like dicks.

After all, why would 19-20 years olds bother being chivalrous and caring with girls their age when they can find 16 years old girls that will act like sluts for their attention?

Men will stop acting like dicks when younger girls will stop acting like sluts, it's that simple. And vice-versa. Now as to which one started the vicious cycle is a chicken-or-egg question.

Guizzy

Sonic84

Granted, there's probably a chip on their shoulder from all the abuse they get (and I'm privy to it frequently, as I'm usually partied up with, amongst a bunch of dudes, a "cute sounding" Soccer Mom), but don't throw that shit on me, Sister!

And if there's one line I hear from the girls, it's always this one "How old ARE you? I bet you're still playing in your parents basement, Creepy."

No, actually, I'm playing in the theater room of the home I OWN in front a TV that's probably wider than you are tall-- after having worked all day for a living I earned after attending and graduating from college.

SenorChefy

Odin

That's a pretty generalized comment. I've met several women online who are just as trashy, just as bad as the guys. It doesn't matter whether or not it's a beat-em-or-join-em situation. In fact, some of my good Live friends are women that I've met through games and they have no problems playing with the boys, which makes 'em pretty cool, if you ask me.

In any case, your statement is on the same level as, "All girls with XBL accounts weigh over a deuce." It's simply not true.

dunetiger reads kotaku, seems pleased

hehehhehe

Shannon1177

bluesquareapple

Sasquatch

ビッグ ボス

rezlow

True that. I always rip people up on Xbox Live when they're annoying. Chances are they're just socially retarded, and that's why they're yelling or saying stupid shit anyway. But sometimes you can just ask people to stop doing something and they will.

EternalGameNation

But yeah, I've noticed a lot more female voices in FPSs these days, earlier in this decade, I only knew about a few members of my EQ guild being female. But back then I don't remeber any females in FPSs. PlanetSide had a few, but I'm guessing the fact that PS is also a MMO helped that a bit. In 2004 or 2005, I was shocked when I was playing Natural Selection and doing some of the best I've done (in combat mode), and the only player on my team doing better than me was a constantly giggling chick.

But I'm hearing female voices all of the time in FPSs these days. I mean, MMORPGs have had plenty of female players for some time, and a game like PlanetSide, although a FPS, isn't that far off... but when I'm playing TF2 or NS it's still a little strange... the strangest thing is apparently it's normal now. Like, on PC FPSs, I don't hear anyone say "Wow, a chick? That's novel." or whatnot anymore.

It really is a good thing, I think. It was really awkward only hearing other guys all of the time, and guys tend to be a lot more civil when it's not just boys.

Akin

...but it's okay... it was the ghost of a myth that killed you.
You know... we really are myths.

MelodyKitn

JebCrash

Interwebz. Welcome to it.

Zen Grenadier

XbhaskarX

The Amazing Exploding-Man

..which is why in my circle of people (and mainstream-wise amongst the educated maybe?) the concept of frats and dumb jocks who slap one another naked in the ass make us smile at the awkward comfort umanity has with itself =). /psychstudentrant

drbrownt0wn

Anyways, read through the responses on the asshattery, and I have to say that my favorites are the Barbie, MySpace, sandwich, and "balls" responses. I do find it weird, however, that two of the comments they get most often are, "You must be ugly," and, "You must be hot." I guess the one they lead with depends on whether they still think they have a chance or if they've been rejected often enough to have gotten the idea already. I wonder how many girl gamers masquerade as guys just to avoid having to deal with this (granted, it would mean never being able to play online games that allow voice transmissions).

Purple Dave

And what do you know? She is. Every. Fucking. Time.

Drue

Say miss, how much is this rather large cock in the freezer?

I wish I heard that in the Supermarket.

Antiflow

Consider yourself served.

The Amazing Exploding-Man

You are probably thinking of cows.

brent_w

Chickens are Chickens it's what you call the whole lot of them it's a SPECIES OF ANIMAL. They all taste the same to me.

Most chickens you eat are actually Cockerals. Guess what they are? Yes, you guessed it. Chickens.

Well my ego certainly is big enough to call random people names over the internet i guess. I guess I'm so fragile that my ego is damageD enough to call people cock over the net and all. So yes I'd say it's pretty big. Especially since I find it extremely hard to admit I was OBVIOUISLY wrong to complete strangers.

Also my ego is so huge I like to start flame wars about poultry. You should see me go on the farming forums.

People are saying there that they're no chickens just poultry, and that male chickens can''t be called poultry, because they are cocks, and not chickens.

I think I'm looking rather dumb and stupid here, don't you?

Antiflow

Thank goodness for Halo 3's easy-to-use mute system. Whenever I play I set my voice communication settings to where I can only hear my party members and teammates. That way, I don't have to hear the opposing team call me a "faggot" repeatedly, although that doesn't prevent my team from doing the same if my teammates happen to be arrogant dicks. Kids(and many adults) these days..it's always "Faggot this," and "Faggot that." Sooo lame.

Anyway, that's my $.02.

XvCowboyvX

Either way you don't call a male of the species a chicken, you cock.

The Amazing Exploding-Man

Female chickens are called Hens.

Does it stop them being chickens?

A Young Chicken is called a chick, however it's still a chicken. Unless it's a duck. The same way a girl is still a human.

Problem with the English language is that it seems to leave holes in which smartarses can flourish until they meet me.

Capon: A castrated male chicken used for meat.

Cockerel: A male chicken less than a year old. These often make it to the barbecue.

Pullet: A female chicken less than a year old.

Rooster: A male chicken more than a year old.

Egg: If you don't know....then

Antiflow

The Amazing Exploding-Man

Set a good example and people will follow. Replying to insults with further insults isn't exactly the highest form of social discourse.

You only serve to make the impersonal interaction on Live personal by doing so, and that's when the insults can really start to damage people.

Throwing insults at insults isn't a good example to set. And just because your insult maybe be within a whole articulate sentence doesn't make it any less than an insult.

Antiflow

j13

peacefuloutrage

What came first, the chicken or the egg?

Nether. Two Chickens came first, one male the other female. Then they got busy and had eggs.

Eggs don't hatch unless they are warmed up by a Chicken.

If two eggs came first then if both turned out to be female or just male Chickens they'd be no chickens after at all.

Antiflow

Don't forget...

I've been called gay a few times since you know my voice is higher than the males of the species. I'm sorry that being female gives me a tighter voice box.

@ TEHFLUFFZCOMEBACK:

I can't see a person over 13 saying any of those.

I've played 50 yr olds with the same mentality/vocabulary. No, I'm not exaggerating.

Cell9song

Why folks think it's acceptable to go insulting perfect strangers is a mystery to me, but it predates voice chat. I've lost count of the number of offensive text chat messages I've had in online games even before I got Live. Jerks will be jerks, and only limit their jerkitude by the medium available to them and risk to their worthless hides.

Of course, "jerks will be jerks" doesn't excuse their behaviour... that's why smart networks have user feedback options, quick-kick consoles for admins, and/or ignore features. Get 'em booted or voicebant, and maybe they'll start taking "risk to their worthless hides" more to heart.

And, by the by, the career of "jerk" is an equal opportunity one... simply from the population playing online these days, the majority right now are male and young and it's worth tackling that. That doesn't excuse the rarer female jerk, but let's worry about that when we're routinely dealing with female jerks.

-- Steve

Anton P. Nym

Tisteldun

ChocoCocobo

Other than that, I haven't had any problems with guys on XBL. Then again, like I said, most can't tell the difference - and I don't usually talk except for saying things like, "There's some blue heading towards 3" or some bullshit like that. Easiest way to avoid the problem. :v

Kotae

thestone

EdwinJ85

The best thing I enjoy about playing online is the anonymity of it. Only my closest gaming buddies know that I'm a girl, and that's only because they'll treat me the same regardless.

angelus-errare

Also:

"Are you a boy? When are your balls gonna drop?*
They already did. And your mom tells me I have the manliest voice ever. Every night. At least twice."

Wait, you can do my mother? With the lack of male gentalia? That insult really doesnt work coming from a girl, unless our mothers are closet lebians. I think more girls need to game and I think sexism is bad but please, equality is all about equality and not about standing on the high moral feminist horse and complaining about things you stir up yourself and then using rude insults that don't apply to your sex/race/religion.

I'm not trying to be sexist and I'm not trying to flame, but really it seems this woman wants her cake and to eat it too.

EdwinJ85

Draconis

Another one to add to the list.

Though this is more of an offline thing.

arstal

brello

brello

kyosen

Bruzer

And when on Xbox Live I actually DO have to ask if they're a boy or girl because those little kids do sounds alot like girls..

Not a very good ready in my opinion and her comebacks aren't even that funny. At all.

PlatinumS

Waterwings

ecmuller

I still find it a rarity to personally meet up with girl gamers for most guy orientated games (COD4 and Rainbow Six come to mind) but I'd expect tons more of them for social type games like Second Life etc...

DELICIOUS BUNNY

brent_w

But after some thought, overall I doubt blogs & articles have as deep an impact as even public school has these days.
.
My cousin is in highschool this year, and his mouth is louder and dirtier than anything I recall from highschool ... and I'm not even that old.

He sounds ... (and kinda looks) ... like a real life cartman, and If he is to belived, the shit he says is perfectly normal at highschool.
.
As prematurely old as it makes me feel, that kinda bothers me.

brent_w

One of my friends plays Gears of War often and runs into everything said on that list, frequently. The most common one I've heard would be "Are you a boy?", they always assume she's some 13 year old kid that hasn't had his balls drop yet. That being said, she hardly gets as much abuse as I do on Live. Most of them quite down once they know she's female.

Libo

SpiBoy a.k.a Duane Brown

Nessman

ArgentAngel

kyosen

DamienMagi

Rabmonk006

ohayou_kun

Atamisk726

"...like when she created a character called Nambla on a WoW server and started hitting on dwarves."

Fucking classic!

WhoreofSpamylon

And a lot of them made as many PMS and vagina jokes as the guys made Wang and Fag jokes.

Kirbytheslayer: In-Kirby XMB

Elrinth

Hey I agree with you there.

I in no way condone it. And find it utterly disgusting the gross disregard these pubesant spoiled brats (young and old) have for people's feelings.

But again, whining about it in a blog with your blog name "hawty" seems a bit reaching for attention IMO. And boy this person will get it more now. Deservingly or not.

But, you do have control over who and what you play with. And are able to use such tools. You cant change people. It wont happen, and this world is getting worse and worse as these younger generations are growing up more spoiled, and less disciplined. So the best thing to do, is take advantage of your tools at hand. And of course writing about it, is one form of a tool.

EnigmaNemesis

Cruithne

brent_w

That is the scary part. I see it all the time, and get sick to my stomach, and the gross disrespect these kids do to their own parents. The spoiled intellect they have.

EnigmaNemesis

Yes, because your experience is a scientific poll.

Anyways. This is the internet. Welcome to it. It happens in about 90% of the games you play that draws mass interest. Use the tools at your disposal to deal. If you cant deal. Then avoid it all together.

I still find it ironic someone with a blog named "Hawty" gawks about people asking if she is "hawt". Attention much?

And after this article, what does she think is going to happen now.

EnigmaNemesis

Joking with "real" friends is one thing but doing it to complete strangers is crossing a line I think.

SpiBoy a.k.a Duane Brown

Counterstrike of course being the most disgusting display of garbage that has ever existed.

That game alone has spawned at least 50% of the people causing these articles.

brent_w

BTFzor_Freestyle

If anything I would say I encounter fewer loud mouthed idiots on X-box live now than when it was brand new.

Thats not to say I don't encounter a hell of a lot, but that oddly enough, I've seen some slight improvement.

That kind of throws your rediculous and baseless theory right out the window doesnt it?

brent_w

Its called "mute" and "report abuse".

/shrug

EnigmaNemesis

It is a spiral effect.

What came first, the chicken or the egg?

Yes, you heard this shit before the articles. Hell, it is the INTERNET, this crap is all over it before live was even conceived.

But I do notice a rise, and most do it and el-oh-el even more now, since these articles. Almost a spite thing.

Regardless though. Most I seen do this are set to Pro or Underground, Mostly the Underground grouping. Use the matchmaking to your advantage, and you do hear it far less.

But dont for a minute act like this is a Live only thing. I only need to submit to you Counter Strike or any Blizzard game in existence.

EnigmaNemesis

The sheer number of kids on their that call people every variation of racial slur will no doubt call him all of those things as an insult, thinking he is just another teenaged white boy.

How would you feel with the knowledge that some dumb kid's unwarranted hatred towards you is so deep that he uses comparison to your kind as an insult to others?

Do the world a favor and get a clue Kaemon.

brent_w

I agree with you whole heartedly and I don't need to be a minority to justify it. Take Xbox Live and subtract all of the annoying things in it that detract from the experience over 50% of the time:

-Annoying nonsensical strings of numbers and letters idiots call "GamerTags"
-Voice Chat (in its entirety); I spend more time muting people in Halo than I do playing.
-The ability to use my own bandwidth to host games rather than a dedicated server (what exactly am I supposed to be PAYING for again?)
-The ability to send and receive friend requests online (You just spent 10 minutes making a total ass out of yourself, I never want to see you again much less give you the ability to find me)

In my personal experience, as I do not use any of the above features, my 360 requires me to PAY for exactly what the Wii gives me for free (because anyone that thinks putting in a string of 10 numbers ONCE is any worse than putting in a seemingly random string of letters and numbers is a moron).

usfslacker

A question:
If they do it because of the articles ... then why have we heard idiots making asses of themselves since day one of XBL before any of these articles?

And for that matter, if the articles about idiots somehow caused the idiots, then neither one would have ever come into existance would they?

brent_w

Black Arts Viper

Now seriously. I found really depressing this people. Or oitiful. I really don't know how to consider so idiotic people. Also poor of the girls that have to endure this. Be strong. They will be always stupid people like that and sadly it can't be helped.

kurokotetsu

People act pissy to you (which they do to pretty much everyone, acting like a dick is part of the LIVE experience) and you get butthurt about it. Then, people reach out and try to be nice, then that makes you angry to.

Maybe your just a little to sensitive to be using a service that consists of frat assmen and racist prepubescent kids.

Elyoshi

The Black part comes into play because I take offense to the word "nigger" and well, we know how much that word gets thrown around the internet...

Black Arts Viper

brent_w

Chilly Hollow

This often-posted, yet still incredibly true Penny Arcade comic strip only makes this more evident. Thanks to this security blanket/Aegis Reflector/binky (it's slang for a pacifier) called "Anonymity", users are going to continue producing the most vile, vulgar, venomous, vicious material possible because they know that at least one person will be offended.

That's why it's up to willing administrators and moderators to lay down some rules and take up their Banhammers to maintain some sort of order in their individual communities. Without them, let's say, a forum would pretty much be Lord of the Flies -- a bunch of little bastards running around bare ass naked with no sense of direction.

Draconis

RawSteelUT

I have never heard any comments like from any female gamers in any game I have ever played.

And I seriously doubt you have either.

brent_w

Kinda funny how this story has so many comments about it, it seems we _DO_ care (too much) about female gamers.

Sober

Yes, because only Live has this, and not the higher demographic for it in the free PC realm.

I take it you dont play online games at all anywhere then?

I dont understand the internet's new fixation where this shit is only on Live. I dont see articles on this for the PC which it is just as much prevalent.

In fact this should be relevant now on Live since you can mute everyone at any time.

As far as wanting to castrate them for their words. I sympathize with you 100%.

EnigmaNemesis

Kaemon

Kaemon

/agree

Only problem though. A lot of these women sell out to money, and gain, because sex symbols in gaming, as in movies, car scene, etc.

Once these women start standing up and not selling out to what the marketing wants them to be (I think we all know who I am talking about), the more it will be normal.

But then again it hasnt been "normal[equal]" in movies, TV, music, since it is women = sex symbols / men = pigs with them as well.

EnigmaNemesis

WAIT! I have an excuse!

I am a black, Arab Muslim... last thing I need is a ton of little boys trying to be funny by using rude derogatory comments. And Unless Microsoft magically manages to grant me the ability to castrate those kids over X-Box live, I have no use for that service.

Black Arts Viper

Kaemon

I let this go for a while as everyone was rather poliely telling him to shut up. Eventually I had to ask him, "Anthony..." I said, having learned his name from a friend of his in the game with us, "What exactly is your preoccupation with both cocks and weasesles? Is is some sort of psychological gratification that people are saying what you want oris it more a sexual fantasy ivolving a horny varment?"

His reply, "Your mother sucks cock." to which I could only say "Yeah, she probably has, and so has yours, and any other guys in here, more than likely they have all gone deep on some guys cock and more than likely not even your fathers, he pry doesn't even get her all being the depressing soul she was locked into when your weasel cock loving self was realized."

To which Anthony's friend goes "Anthony, you just got punk'd, stop while you're ahead and leave the cock weasel behind."

Anthony retorts "Never!" quite emphatically, and then I added him to my friends list.

I love that guy now, in all his cock weasel loving glory.

Zilor

They do it to be silly jerks, just because it is "expected" due to articles about it.

And this isnt just Live, I have encountered this shit since the dawning of the internet and online gaming from the PC days. And the more and more that non-geeks, get into online gaming, the more you will see the low end sperm counts be there.

EnigmaNemesis

I feel that until there is an substantial number of women out there playing games almost much as guys,you're not going to see as much change as you'd expect.

I think that seeing women of all shapes and sizes, and seeing women who would be considered to be the most feminine looking ones by guys; playing the more hardcore/serious games would be great. That would make any and everybody see that this is not just a guy thing.

All the women who are expressing these ideals are just a few of many women out there. If you really want to change this idea maybe you could find other women who play games or women who don't play but are interested, get them to come together somehow and show that you able to play with the "BIG BOYS" on an even level if not not better.

There are guys who dont mind women at all of course playing games, but less face it there are always going to be assholes who scrutinize like crazy and all anyone can do is ignore them and move on.

bigdude209

sweetie55

4dSwissCheese

this_is_sparta

Gatzu

I don't get this DIVA complex that some of these female gamers have/get.

beem

AverageJoes

munkah

brello

peet

"I'm a girl!"

"Ummm that's nice?"

"OMG don't you care that I'm a girl?"

Every time I run into a female gamer they pretty much brag about the fact that they're female. No one really cares.

Iron_Dragon_2.0

monstericreated

crazyrabbits

Thrallok

monstericreated

Krytha

ConstantCupcake

Neil Honky

Yeah, I use the headset so that I can talk to my team and only once have I ever had a "cool" team. They didn't say anything about the fact that I'm a girl and I when I made a "that's what she said" joke they all thought I was cool and we ended up teaming for several more games. A few of them I even added. We worked well together.

Otherwise it has generally sucked on Live. I have even had someone say "Hey, [gamertag], I'm going to rape you." I know that there is no way to track people on Live, but needless to say it made me uncomfortable.

So, guys, think about what you're going to say before you say it. Please.

ArgentAngel

ConstantCupcake

Krytha

BlazinNoni

BlazinNoni

Monsieur Fap★Fap!

If you're screwing up I'll let you know. =)

Mongoosekun

It's one thing if you are playing and doing really well but nobody cares because they assume you're a guy. Then for whatever reason if it's found out you are a girl, then all the male players that aren't people you know band together and single you out for death.

Sometimes I would own their asses no problem and other times I'd get fragged relentlessly. After a while it does sour you on a game and it's just not fun anymore to be targeted just because. I even stopped going to arcades 10 year ago back college because it was the same thing. If I wasn't greeted with a "girls can't/don't play" arcade on a SF, MvsC or even KOF, I was simply hit on or gained some creepy "fans".

Funny that I've been putting up with this stuff since the 5th grade and that was back in 1988. You'd think men would evolve and mature at least a little but I guess it's just too much to ask for the Y chromosome. All of which is multiplied 100 fold by the anonymity of the internet. So it's just not worth to even bother playing random matches anymore.

VeritasVierge

Normal people who cant devote 6 hours a day to playing X-Box live don't have extensive lists of friends who will always be around to play with.

brent_w

wait...are you mexican?

Mexican isn't a racist term...

unless they used it in a harsh way or something...

did they just say, "YOU ARE A MEXICAN!"

even then I would think they are retarded...

that's like screaming to someone from new york,

"YOU ARE A NEW YORKER!"

Vecha

TheEternalCowboy

spectralpulse

IGN takes points off Medal of Honor because there is no voice chat ... I on the other hand give them applause.

I never use the headset when playing on X-box live, and I usualy end up muting and/or avoiding at least 1 person every single game ...

brent_w

Nexus6

I'm not even sure if the xbox live complaint systems work. I've never heard of anyone getting banned or a warning because filing a complaint.

j13

follow up question do you have a vagina?

Len Bias Cocaine Surplus

Not really, I could have done worse. BUT then again I'm sure it's been done before ;3

Sailorcancer

That and people who get butt hurt about being insulted like to pretend they are intellectually superior and say that certain words are beneath them, and then hop on X-Box live and talk shit as loud as the rest of em... But refrain from using said words because they would be "offensive." But they will have no problem calling someone an assclown or dipshit.

The Amazing Exploding-Man

ResidentPrick

josh924

黒天使

You my kind user have never seen the Playstation 2 Trance Vibrator before.

Girl tested, mother aproved.

Sailorcancer