<![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay - Kotaku Comments]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay - Kotaku Comments]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @NaughtyBitsGLiF: I do believe Tom Clancy only gives his blessing to the Tom Clancy's franchise now. He doesn't write any of the stories for the game. It's more of "okay, it sounds like something I'd write."

not_tom_brokaw

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @slade: Yeah, visible blood is powerful addition to any violence, I don't personally link it to realism, but rather on how brutal the game wants to be. Well, it is part of the realism aspect, but I don't consider it being remarkable compared to other things, human interaction and AI might be the biggest things for me. But blood is undeniably very powerful element.

ara

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @TehGwan:

Like I said earlier: The video sucks because whomever is playing is terrible at it. Go look at the Japanese play-through at Gamevideos, it's shorter, but whomever is playing it.... does it so well.

Indy_aka_Rex

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> Am I missing something, or was that about.. five minutes of -just- changing camouflage?

I dunno about this, personally. I've never been a huge fan of MGS, but I've never really not liked it either. But... until he decided to pull out the gun, it seemed extremely slow paced. I mean, more slowly paced than I'd expect a stealth game to be.

Also, what.. exactly was happening while Snake was putting that guy to sleep?

TehGwan

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @NaughtyBitsGLiF:

I wouldn't say good story writers are only limited to books. There are many fantastic story writers that aren't authors. Admittedly, I haven't played the entire SC series, so my opinion is pretty much nulled, but I would say the MGS series has one of the best, if not the best, story lines out there. Especially MGS3 and that last final cutscene...

Zero_

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @NaughtyBitsGLiF: MGS has quite a bit of realism. The thing is, MGS doesn't let the realism get in the way of gameplay. And gameplay is, has been, and always will be king.

Sugoi

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> People should stop exaggerating small issues and making them to be game breaking. The only issue I see with this game is that Snake's crack is a little too obvious for my liking, but the game is looking stellar.

GLaDOS

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @Padriac: Boosh!

Roflcopter_Down: Wants you to follow HIM!

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @kNZA: Well said.

NaughtyBitsGLiF

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @Witzbold: Wiz, dude. Come. On. Tom Clancy sells books man, books. If it wasn't a good story why is the man an Author? I tried for the life of me to get into the MGS series when it came to old black box betty. Just was meh, anyone else notice how he would run past someone and they wouldn't notice him? I mean I heard him scurrying by and they didn't? I thought this game had some realism at least.

NaughtyBitsGLiF

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @slade: Damn!!!! You actually pay attention to scores? Scores are jack shit. They don't mean a thing.

PTUSHA

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @Padriac: If mgs2 was the most important game of the decade, then it must have been a pretty crappy decade.

PTUSHA

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @billybastion:

It does look like there are some issues with the AI. Weird behaviour in the first movie too.

It's still very early (holiday 2008?) so it may get better. At least it doesn't look KZ2 bad!

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@Hiroken:

Your friends are "gamers" so they know about and are prepared to spend time mastering MGS.

A lot of casual players have never heard of MG. Many more would be frustrated by the gameplay. It looks awesome and will get very heavy advertising. Maybe that will make the difference.

You don't have to be a troll to observe that MGS is not a mainstream game.

It's not for everybody.

It looks like people who like it are in for a treat!

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@tajash:

Touche!

kNZA

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @kingclip:

Please don't misunderstand my statement about sales.

If you had read my comment, you would have seen me replying to this:
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"MGS may be an acclaimed series, but it has/will NEVER have close to the system selling power that Halo has. The XBOX 360 sales surged because of the game's huge casual base (the ones that buy consoles for one game like Halo). This game cannot possibly have that large of a casual appeal."
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The topic was sales and popular appeal and the Halo series was already involved.

For the record, I do believe Halo to be a good series. In spite of their flaws, I have enjoyed all three. They are a lot of fun to play and that means a lot considering that I never enjoyed a FPS before playing Halo and only a few since. (I blame the vehicles.)
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Jeez, I am too worried about being insulted on these threads.
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It was never my intention to suggest that sales = quality. It's not true for the reasons you mentioned and many more.
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Sales are very relevant to sales.

Will MGS4 sell a brazillion copies? The future knows.

Will the PS3 move in record numbers after MGS releases?

Each entry in the MGS series has sold fewer copies than the last. MGS3 never broke 4 million sales on a platform that sold 100 million consoles.
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This suggests that the MGS series may not have the mainstream appeal that everyone on these boards hopes for. (Rabid fanboys excluded, of course)
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Only time will tell.

kNZA

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @pyrealnova: the halo's the "threat ring" if I'm not mistaken. Bumps will appear on it as things around Snake become more and more dangerous to him.
I think the reason Otacon is a little more forward in this one is because he's become a lot more determined and involved in what he and Snake have set out to do. As he's said in one of the previous trailers, the Onus (burden of responsibility) is upon them; there's no time to suddenly run away from a fight anymore.
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I think the Old Snake title on the bar is a red herring; I think Kojima is truly ready to have Snake become someone that's just referred to in whatever is next in the Metal Gear universe. I do not think Kojima would like to be only known for Snake, and that he'd like to have someone else take the spotlight (it would certainly fit into the MGS theme of passing on to the next generation...) as well as not only be known as "the guy who created solid snake." It might create a bit of backlash (c.f. Raiden), but I trust him to make a good decision as to who will carry on the story after this.




not_tom_brokaw

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> I noticed in some of the videos there's a digital stress meter below that of the health and stamina meter. Gotta give Old Snake a rest some times.

Overall, I'm looking forward to it.

DELICIOUS BUNNY

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> I've just watched the trailers again, and I have a couple questions:

1 - What is the feint halo that surrounds Snake? I imagine it's some sort of CQC spatial reference of some sort, or....i have no clue.

2 - This is less a question and more an observation: Otacon needs to be way dorkier. The dude hides in a locker and pisses himself in MGS1, and now he thinks he's all suave in his ribbed turtle-neck sweater. I want dorky Otacon back!

pyrealnova

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @Tisteldun: You're right. This is the NEXT GENERATION, buttockses should LOOK so much better!

cactushooker

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @usfslacker:

I think it has more to do with the way the guy's playing the game than anything else, because... quite honestly, whoever played this? Sucked.

Not to mention it's so poorly cut...

Oh and, nice YTMND reference in clip 4!

Indy_aka_Rex

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> The fact that the status bar reads "Old Snake" leads me to believe he won't be like that for the entire game.

cactushooker

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @Amazing_Steve:

WTF is with any FPS character pulling 1 of 12 guns out at any given moment? Its been a long time gameplay mechanic almost any gamer worth their salt is more than familiar with.

Jander

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @arashi: that was nice. kudos

tajash

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @kNZA: im japanese and i dont think its offensive. And besides what he said was a compliment..you are what you called him.

tajash

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> Splinter Cell's boring. There, I've ended it.

NotSoCool

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @kNZA: I'm from England & certainly don't mind the term Brit, never even think about it, zero issue. Australians call us "poms" & I don't mind that either, unless it's used in a nasty way.
Japanese people, in Japan, don't mind Jap either - I spoken about this with my colleagues at work (i live in Japan) & they don't seem to have a problem with it. Although I don't use the term myself in spoken, I might use JP or Jap in an email for abreviation.
However, I think that Japanese people living in the US or UK might feel differently because racism is more of an issue.
It's interesting though. It's ok to call an Australian "auzzie", but the French wouldn't like "frenchy"




Riquez

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> People are complaining about realism.. in a cyber punk fantasy stealth action game that has had multiple incarnations of bipedal tanks, psychics, cyborg ninjas, so on and so forth?

Talk about nit picking.

Black-Dog-Howls

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> This is my favorite series and with this...my God its just gonna be awesome. I wont bother posting anything else because if you are like me...you dont care what other people really think and especially if it has to do with MGS because to me its about what YOU like not what SOMEONE ELSE thinks.

tajash

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> Why have we suddenly returned to the dynamic of being able to carry 10 guns at the same time, a barrel and a box, without a single thing showing on the main character?

WatershipDown

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> Graphics are very nice. But that's it. Other than that I was not impressed at all. In fact, that was boring me to sleep. The only thing that was keeping me awake was wondering how any straight guy can play this game looking at an old man wearing a g-string. That alone is enough to make me not want to play this game. Horrible!

migz

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @Padriac:

try playing on something different than easy.

Latonone

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> Glad to see that I'm not the only one not comfortable with staring at Snake's muscular, nearly disturbing, butt the entire game. Luckily, I picked up in one of the recent interviews, you'll be able to switch the perspective to something more familiar (like the birds eye camera). Guess they've thought of something.

Other than that, yea, I can't wait to play this game once I get myself together and purchase a PS3.

Oh, the "Old Snake"-bar confused me as well. They are up to something. They must be. Seriously, like they'd just put an end to the MGS series.

Candlejack

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @arashi: Ahh ok well i respect your opinion seeing as you can debate your point without trying to cause some arguement. An i see your point while sc is more reality based mgs does have its fair share of outta reality enemies. Tho thats kinda what makes it cool an i get that blood isnt always significant to all games just to me in stealth games or games that revolve around shooting realism kinda keeps me more interested know what i mean.

But i do see your point its not always needed but it does help with the realism aspect of said game.

slade

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> Lots of comments and responses:

The Demo:
  Looks and sounds great! But the AI is completely nerfed - probably set to "Very Easy" mode (I hope!). There are a couple of Japanese subtitles still in the demo, though! And it seemed like some of Snake's combat VOs were of the Japanese voice actor...?

The PMC Politics:
  Ha ha ha. "Please consider Praying Mantis for all your combat needs." ...uh, can anyone say, "Blackwater"? Hell yeah, Kojima. Keep MGS political.

The "Old Snake" health bar:
  Pretty sure there's a Young Snake in the game somewhere. Check the end of the TGS '06 trailer. Probably a new clone.

Snake's Ass:
  Yeah, really! WTF? Given that the default camera angle is set behind Snake, we'll be stuck staring at his backside FOR THE WHOLE GAME. It would be nice if they had an asscrack/no asscrack option in the menu somewhere. I mean, that's a serious flaw in his armor, right?

Highlander Wolf

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @slade: Sorry, I guess I wasn't clear enough, what I meant was that the laws of the physics in Metal Gear games are not the same as the ones we live under. People can be immortal, jump tens of meters in air, not to even mention things like the bullet deflector Fortune had on MGS2. I was simply arguing against the fact that presence of blood would be so significant that it would make something realistic when much bigger issues differ from reality.

ara

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @arashi:

Fair enough, I guess :P

Heliophage

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @Heliophage: "From there, we can also note that Snake can shoot exclamation points or question marks above a person's head to daze them, while Sam is limited to shooting elements actually inside the game world."

By making those question marks and exclamation points shootable, Konami made them concrete part of the game world. Every game and movie have their own set of rules for their own reality, some are closer to ours than others. In MGS the question marks and exclamation points are clearly part of the reality as they can be manipulated.

ara

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @Sasuntsi Davit:

after being in a warzone, with a gun right next to your face(your gun) screaming as it fires, you dont exactly have the best hearings. another reason why they may use hand signals(other than stealth)

mentalboy11

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @Al2x:

because ryan said that the game's current build, not this demo, has many different things in it than the demo.

mentalboy11

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @billybastion: He was in the middle of his own gun battle, not looking to his side. It would make less sense if he suddenly stopped and started fighting you just because he knows you are the "player". Stop being a douche.

Padriac

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> I think it looks pretty bad ass. Just playing Portable ops now, my first MGS, and it's pretty damn cool, so seeing this looks particularly sweet.

Ryivan

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @Hiroken:

Lol. I always wondered about the glowing light thing as well. Realism? These are video games you guys are comparing. Seriously now, let's see now... Splinter Cell pretty much has pretty much the same concept all the time. The story line is very cookie cutter. The Metal Gear Solid plots were more unique, it's plots you won't expect on a video game. It's just a flawless story to follow.

Another note, I've played both games. These are totally two different genre you fan boys are comparing. Honestly, the only reason I would even play Splinter Cell is cause of the co-op. However Metal Gear Solid series, the story would just capture me in. If you played every game, Hideo Kojima really shows his development over time. I still remember when Metal Gear Solid(PS1). The faces had no facial expression or anything. Metal Gear Solid 2(PS2) has the system advanced, he really showed the power of the PS2.(I still remember I saw the first trailer of MGS2, I thought the rain/water effects were godly). Then Metal Gear Solid 3(PS2) was announced. Who would've thought the PS2 could even dish out graphics like that. He really pushed the PS2 to it's limits. As for MGS4... well it hasn't been released yet so...

I guess one the reason why people are so into Metal Gear Solid 4 is cause they know Hideo Kojima wouldn't release a failure game especially to end the series of Solid Snake.

KaitouDark

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> i think this looks boring.

i never understood why you have to always pause the game and look at the inventory screen in the middle of a fight. and that damned otacon thing is almost as annoying as the walkie talkie in dead rising.

my favorite part is in the third video where he kills two people and a guy standing five feet across from them doesnt even turn around...until hes shot. nice.

billybastion

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @Tisteldun: No. In other games we are practically forced to look at women's bums and bossisms. I'm waiting for a good male crotch shot in a game. That would be so hot. Wait what were we talking about?

This game is the thing that will make me get a PS3. MGS is the only thing that I'll play that is remotely military. It's almost better than... well its going really REALLY good.

TheDollHouse

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @Saint Anima: yea ive got this awful feeling it's gonna be passed over to raiden again in this game

noliferuin (PSN+XBL)

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @Heliophage: True. Well, if anything I'm thinking this will be Solid Snake's last mission. It's funny how Kojima said this will be the last in the series, and then you hear all the guests' tribute videos at that Konami event wishing for another 20 years of Metal Gear. I can see it happening with a different character, or even full updated remakes of the original Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2.

Saint Anima

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> Comparing Metal Gear Solid to Splinter Call is like comparing Fight Club to WWE: it just shows you don't get it.

Metal Gear is a post-modern videogame (if you will) in that it is aware it is a videogame and it uses that knowledge as a component of your interaction. It is about social commentary, choice, and operating at different levels.

This was executed perfectly in MGS2, which may just be the most important video game in last decade. The whole thing was a huge meta-statement on video games, yet most chiptards didn't get it as Kojima's mastery flew over their heads. All this talk about realism, point, plot: MGS2 was *about* how all that stuff is just a facade for some greater purpose. But no, that's too hard for everybody and they all go play cookie-cutter FPS#264 instead and give it perfect scores. Sigh.

Padriac

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> Game related, MGS just doesnt look that appealing to me. Infact,it looks downright boring just as its predicessors were. I love cut scenes and all(I loved xenosaga),but the pace of MGS games along with poor camera angle and dull gameplay have always made them subpar to me. Then again, I feel the same about the SC games as well. Ive tried to get into them one after the other and every time I end up so bored before even the first mission is over that I usually either return the game if rented, or box it up and put it in storage if I bought it.(which is usualy the case) Id personally give both MGS and SC games a solid 5/10 if I were to score them simply based on thier inability to create any sort of fun environment for me to play in. Ofcourse, thats just an opinion.

The second topic is that of "japs" and "brits". Living in japan for a while now and having my sister live in london for several years as well, ill comment a bit on this based on personal experience. Basically, the people here in japan dont really give a rats ass if you say "jap". Ive never had a friend or stranger here get offended if I used it for the hell of it, granted i dont use it a lot simply because I feel its a bit off. However, thats the point, its not the japanese that get offended by the comment as far as I can tell, its only the americans and other foriegners that seem to get pissed when you use it. In other words, its more like a guilt thing I think and personally I dont see an issue with it becuase ill be damned if i care what americans think about offending someone when really it only offends themselves.(and im an american) As for brits, ive heard british poeple use it commonly and it was never a derogitory name by any standards. So with no past history or offending nature, I highly doubt anyone is offended by it.

Anyways, enough of that crap. Basically, I just dont get MGS is the point. Always thought it was highly overrated, even more so than the first halo game or the God of War series.

RuneX

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @usfslacker:
1. Of course the story will be convoluted. It will still, however, be much better than any SC game.

2. How can SC be more realistic? Sam fisher hides in the dark with a fucking hat that glows, and NOBODY SEES HIM.

3. Not a system seller? What are you, twelve? Everyone I know (gamers, natch) is waiting on a PS3 until either this or FFXIII drop.

4. You, sir, have lost touch with reality. Head back to the team xbox forums.

~

Hiroken

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> I looks great, but gameplay I'm not convinced. I was never into these types of games, and I've never played metal gear solid. I've seen it on PS2 but it's not my deal. GT5 still remains the sole reason I would by a PS3.

Tuxy79

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> *of what a person could logically hold

@Saint Anima: ...and this is the game to end the storyline.

I doubt it. Every Metal Gear Solid game is the "last" :P I'm sure there will be a lot of loose ends tied up, but I'm also confident that plenty of room will be left for later.

Heliophage

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @Polluted: yea i mean in fairness metal gear 2's story is the worst of them all imho but you should give 3 a shot, much much better
as for being preachy, yea they've all got their elements of philosophy and pacificsm
if thats not for you thats fine and all, you should give 3 a shot though, you can always skip the story bits and just check a guide if you get stuck as a result

noliferuin (PSN+XBL)

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @not_tom_brokaw:

It was just a point of comparison, not really a complaint. Most games have inventories that span well beyond the capacity of what a logical person could hold.

@slade:

...based on what?

Heliophage

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @nolifedopestar:

Bummer. Like I say I only played the one so I wasn't sure if they were all like that. It's not that I'm against lots of story telling in a game. It just seemed in Metal Gear like I was reading more than I was playing. And for a game that doesn't take itself to seriously, the whole affair seemed a bit preachy.

Polluted

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @arashi: flaw of physics? MGS has the best physics in a stealth game so i dont see your point in that one.

slade

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @kingclip:
I concur, it's the consumer who choses what is "to be". It saddens me that so many great works of artistic merit are ignored. (Hence the reason I listen to black metal and watch Andrei Tarkovsky films...)


choirovwolves

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> I am beginning to notice that everytime MGS gameplay comes up, people seem to get all up in a huff over where Snake keeps his stuff. All in the name of realism, of course.

Can't we just agree that Snake gets his stuff from the same shop the Resident Evil characters get theirs from? I mean, I don't remember anyone getting worked up about Jill Valentine somehow hiding assault rifles on her person.
Besides, if we're going to complain about realism, there are a lot of other things that should be resolved before we go picking on Snake's inventory.


not_tom_brokaw

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @Heliophage:

I do have to agree about the characters, though. One of the main, if not the main reason I'll play Metal Gear Solid 4 is to find out what happens, canonically, to the characters involved in the franchise thus far. Very little attachment like that travels the bridge between Splinter Cell games.

Heliophage

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @peet: It says "Old Snake" because that's what he is. Old. Well, technically he's not that old, but his fast aging makes him appear to be old. I doubt that a "Young Snake" will just appear out of nowhere, so yeah. It would just make things more complicated, and this is the game to end this storyline.

Saint Anima

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> Is anyone else bothered by Snakes big muscular buttocks ?

Tisteldun

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> Splinter Cell and Metal Gear Solid are two completely different franchises. MGS has always been executed with a bit of levity, with realism taking a seat behind humor and action, while SC has always been a game built around elevating tension.

Sam Fisher can also only hold two weapons, while Solid Snake has no trouble looting an entire battleship and stuffing it up his ass. From there, we can also note that Snake can shoot exclamation points or question marks above a person's head to daze them, while Sam is limited to shooting elements actually inside the game world.

Sam uses shadows, Snake uses cardboard boxes. Sam moves fluidly, Snake dashes between poses and actions. SC benefits from the ingrigue of a Tom Clancy novel, MGS has batshit crazy, convoluted story elements (as much as I like them, that's still what they are).

Regardless of all that, it's a matter of preference. Some people like Tony Hawk over skate., but are they wrong to do so? Well, in that case, yes, but here, no.

I love the Metal Gear Solid franchise, and I love the Splinter Cell franchise. You have to appreciate what each game is, though, rather than expecting one from the other. If you want an SC experience, don't play MGS to find it, and vice versa.

I, for one, am lucky enough to have been able to enjoy both. Play them for what they are, and you can too.

Heliophage

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @kingclip: thank you for hitting the nail SQUARELY on the head

noliferuin (PSN+XBL)

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @kNZA: You know, I'm quite sure Halo is great, but can we get off sales figures as any measurement WHATSOEVER for greatness? If sales are a measurement for anything involving quality, then Ico sucks, Titanic is the greatest movie ever made by a multiple of nearly 2x, and Shania Twain and Hootie & The Blowfish, both of whom have releases among the Top 20 selling albums of ALL TIME, are musical geniuses.

Again, sales and or popularity does not necessarily equal quality. Never has, never will -- and if it does for you, then you are a sheep.

kingclip

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @Combinator: Agreed. I would take MG over SC any day.

Adam In Texas

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @DELETED: Hey now, don't generalize people like that. I've played through all of the previous MG games.

Adam In Texas

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @pyrealnova:
Yeah, maybe that's what it is for me too. The view...makes it look like a redneck version of the Splinter Cell guy running around. Like he was just put inside the Splinter Cell engine or something. I'm sure it's better than that in person (and the shadows from the building and powerlines outside are pretty sweet looking.

Adam In Texas

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @kNZA: yea i see your point, just dont think it has to be racist necessarily
but yea if the japanese considered it hateful i wouldnt use it

noliferuin (PSN+XBL)

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> And I'm supposed to be impressed by these graphics?

Sure they're good, but they're not amazing.

0starter0

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @Jonn:

You noticed the "Old Snake" in the health bar too huh? I can only speculate that that may be a little plot giveaway.

peet

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @nolifedopestar:

I would say that it's the historical context that makes the difference.

In Canada and in the USA, "japs" were herded into camps and treated like shit because there was some suspicion that they might sympathize with their country of origin during WWII. Many were supposedly full citizens when they were stripped of their right, property.

No North American country has bombed Britain while calling them names in the last century or so.

If it really hurt the feelings of British folk, I wouldn't use it...you?

Any posters from the British Isles who can comment on the potential hurtfulness of the label "Brit"?

Also, although we all get lazy typing on the internets (such hard work!), it would be best if we capitalized the countries and nationalities we mention.

If we all showed each other a little respect, it might be a slightly happier world.

And it's free!

kNZA

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> I like that the health meter says "OLD SNAKE". And gosh, there sure is a lot of paper flying around.

Say, does the CAMO drop when you arm a big, noticable weapon? Like the RPG or Javelin being more noticable than the stun knife?

@slade: Work on your grammar, kid.

@libregkd: Would you like to share your point with the rest of the class?

Jonn

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> I think that Splinter Cell is more realistic and more modern and MGS is more fantastical and geared more towards fun and a different experience than other games. For me, Splinter Cell just reminds me of a whole bunch of other games that need stealth such as a few 007 games and things like that but the reason MGS stands out is because its controls, story, pulling things out of thin air, atmosphere, and several moments of silliness don't really happen in other games and so makes MGS unique.

Also, to the person who said MGS Twin Snakes was an example of MGS being worse- TS was ding'd because its voice acting and other such non-gameplay things lacked.

And one more thing. The biggest/most well known series for Xbox is Halo. The biggest series for PC (or at least the most critically acclaimed) is the Half-Life series. The biggest/most well known for the PS3 is MGS. There are other popular titles, such as Splinter Cell, but SC just isn't the top of any of the big platforms.

Combinator

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @Witzbold:
WOW!

kNZA

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @kingclip:
It doesn't look AS good as the trailers with the way the camera moves. It's smooth in the cut scenes. Jerky in this demo. I'm not saying they should have bullshit cinematic camera angles or something, and though fixed camera angles could work, that would also kind of suck. Just make the camera adjustments a little less jerky.

TechnoDestructo

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @Polluted: aint gonna happen man, metal gear's always gonna be story heavy
be the same as waiting for zelda to be turn based

noliferuin (PSN+XBL)

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> I love that the first clip showed us such important design and gameplay elements as "crouching and standing up again," and "standing still while the camera moves for thirty seconds."

jcsunshine

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> I played MGS 2 I think. The one where you fight a bunch of giant robots with a rocket launcher at the end. Raiden was in it...anyway. The gameplay was mostly pretty fun, but it seemed like you would play for 5 minutes, then there would be a 10 minute cut-scene. Play for 5 more minutes, 15 minute cut-scene. Rinse, repeat. And it's not like you could skip through them if you wanted to know what to do next, let alone have any idea why you were doing it. So I never picked up another one.
This game does look pretty cool. I just really hope there's more stealthy action and less yapping. Or even if they just made the story make sense, that would make me happy.

Polluted

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> Why is everyone complaining about how it looks, plays?? You guys have obviously never played a MGS game before. If its not your style than proceed by this article and forfeit from posting. We don't care if YOU don't get it.

DELETED

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> I played this demo. It was damn good (headphones were a nice touch), and it lasted longer than the entire Halo 3 single player campaign. Boosh!

Padriac

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @Witzbold: agreed, metal gear solid's got character, splinter cell, graw, rainbow six etc are all fun, but they're just cookie cutter games for their genres

noliferuin (PSN+XBL)

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @Scazza: I just hate SC generally since its fucking boring to me. Theres no fun in the game, since its basically hitman with spies in a sense. Cept a bit more linear with how you got to do things.

I dont play my games for realism, or at least not the stealth genre, mainly because real life stealt isnt exactly "action packed" and its a lot of waiting, which involves one falling asleep. Not to mention Sam just isnt funny. His character is boring. So is the writing for the game. That was another thing that made me dislike the series. It was just too ridgid.

Witzbold

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> I only enjoyed Double Agent the most mainly due to this video.

[www.youtube.com]

Witzbold

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> Was it just me or the AI is a bit patchy. In one of the videos, Snake grabs a guy and takes him out. The dude screams, but his buddy is only a few feet in front, and nothing happens...

Sasuntsi|Davit

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @kNZA: Another reason I've always loved MGS is that I think it can work on multiple levels. If you don't care about the ridiculous story, the gameplay is still good enough to drive the game. If the weird gameplay quirks bother you, you can enjoy the plot, graphics, sound, and heck you can still enjoy the gameplay and try to ignore the weird stuff.

Not everyone loves MGS, but I think that any open-minded person can at least enjoy them and should play them. MGS4 looks pretty much the same in this regard.

Spiffyness

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @slade: HAMMERFALL

Witzbold

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> I am a huge Metal Gear Solid fan, but that doesn't mean I don't like Splinter Cell. In fact, I love playing co-op with my friends in Chaos Theory, because there's just something inherently fun in shouting at your best bud for shooting a guard before you were about to slit their throat. In that respect, I'd consider SC a game that's great to play with people around you. MGS, on the other hand, is a single player experience that specializes in storyline, a choice between action and stealth, and various other things that get bogged down by multiplayer---which is why I'm not too fond of MGO. So, in short, SC and MGS have two different goals that they both accomplish with flying colors.

@kNZA: The same could be said about the cardboard boxes, rocket launchers, shotguns, grenades, rations, etc. that you could carry in your inventory at the same time. MGS's menus and inventory have, from the beginning, had little connection with reality. They're strictly for gameplay convenience.

Ninja-Z

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @kNZA: dunno if i should get involved in this potentially volatile arguement but ill try and play the peacemaker anyway
hows calling a person from japan a jap any different from calling someone from britain a brit?

noliferuin (PSN+XBL)

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @Huginn: sigh, lack of edit feature..

let alone splinter cell, and " can mean hours of waiting.

huginn

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @usfslacker: Uh, I was the one that said what??

Either you have me confused for someone else or your reasoning is idiotic.

Jest

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @Spiffyness:

It sure is distinctive!

Those touches bothered me in the last MGS I played.

Maybe a bad sign...

Maybe I can download a speed run after it's released and just enjoy the pretty graphics.

kNZA

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @Scazza: MGS series is really out there, and it is a social commentary type of game. You make all good points. But unlike same fishers realistic games, you never get the feel like your involved in something bigger. Rarely do you feel like your in something 'epic' that MGS bring in any other games, let along Splinter Cell.

Yeah Sam Fisher is the master of the 'true' stealth, but I don't want true stealth (which in in reality, true stealth can me hours of waiting and sitting, just for one opening.. Not some dopey erratic fan malfunctioning giving me access to one of the world's biggest intelligence agency )

huginn

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @kNZA: Nah, they're not going to "fix" something like that, 'cause it's done absolutely on purpose. It's just a Hideo Kojima thing, and personally I've come to love the little quirks like that that form the unique blend of stark, heavy-handed realism and weird, sometimes awkward silliness that has come to define the series. There's nothing wrong with you not liking it, but realize that it's a stylistic choice and there's no way in hell Kojima's gonna change it :P

Spiffyness

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> ...should have, not have have. Sorry.

Adam In Texas

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @slade: So, what you are saying is that little blood will make up all the flaws of physics and logic and make product realistic? Sorry, I didn't mean to be mean, I just don't see why the blood would be so important to any of those you mentioned, they are only believable in their own ruleset, and blood could be cut out of any of them.

ara

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @kNZA: Hateful language, i could say a ton more hateful things an frankly i didnt say anything mean spirited or hateful in my post so dont read into posts trying to find arguements. Just mind your own business thanks/

slade

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @cyhborg:

Came in here to ask the same thing. I guess I have have thought a cardboard box was odd enough but there is something about a guy that can fit a full size rusting metal drum in his pocket that seems a little off.

Adam In Texas

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @slade:

It's not an argument.

Calling races by derogatory terms is just plain douche behaviour.

I don't know your race and I don't care. If I did, I would not try to mock it.

You should show respect for the Japanese people even if you think some aspect of their culture is amusing. Pointing out something strange can be fun for everyone concerned but using hateful language is a bad idea.

No argument.

kNZA

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @Deus_EpS:

Definitely the best REAL graphics ever on PS3.

Let's home the game plays as good as it looks.

I am hoping they fix those illusion breaking ideas like carrying an oil-drum in your back pocket.

The power-ups aren't as annoying but seeing the cardboard box appear out of thin air is just silly.

It is that much more bizarre to see because the graphics are excellent and rendered in a realistic style.

kNZA

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @Scazza: I never said Sc sucked if you read i said i ALSO enjoy the sc series but there are some thigns that make a game more real. I like my stealth games good an bloody one of my fav shows of all time is 24 its got it all good story, stealth, shooting, an always gots a huge bodycount.. if i watched 24 an jack shot a dude an there was no blood i wouldnt be into the show as much cause the intense realism just isnt there. When you shoot someone they bleed if im playing a stealth game thats supposed to be real an intense i wanna see some more realism then some guy just hittin the ground like a shot him with a stun gun, agian thats just my opinion like i said SC is still a great game just not better then mgs to me thats all.

slade

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @kNZA: Hmm trying to start an arguement with someone else on a thread i think you need to grow up thanks.

slade

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @usfslacker:

Halo 3 is about 200,000 copies away from outselling MGS1, 2.

It beat MGS3 long ago.

Halo 2 is already way past them and it was released on Xbox 1 which never broke 25% of the PS2's install base.

kNZA

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @usfslacker: Sorry for the 2x post but...if a widely acknowledged 'great' game is hard to play, then it isnt the dev's fault, its that the gamers are possibly retarded.

Deus_EpS

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @Jest:

...you were the one that said people lost interest after a game first. Your point there was precisely mine from the original post.

usfslacker

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @Scazza:

I completely agree with your comparison.

I'm still undecided on getting MGS4 right now. MGS2 and MGS3 kind of killed my interest in the series. Maybe MGS4 can turn it around for me, but at this point I'm not so sure. I guess I'll have to borrow it from a friend once it's out.

The waiting game continues...

romBox

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @usfslacker: here to help you out lemme grab the scores of the series between both

SC= 9.6
SC2= 9.5
SC3= 9.6
SC4= 9.0

Now for MGS series of scores

MGS= 9.8
MGS2= 9.1
MGS3= 9.8

as you can see the average SC scores about a 9.6 never higher an the average mgs game scores a 9.8 so kinda hard to sit an say SC is better the scores prove which is better. Tho i can understand you saying you enjoy SC over MGS that makes more sense.
Like i said SC is a cool game an i too like the franchise but it aint no MGS never will be. In Mgs you can shoot ppl in specific joints hide bodies in lockers an theres blood tons of other stuff an the AI is the best in any stealth game to date.

In Sc you can do some pretty sweet stuff hang from ceilings an all that.. but thats it you can hide bodies there isnt any blood when you shoot ppl.. an you cant shoot ppl in specific joints or hold em up. Its a great game but needs alot more work to be MGS tier.
Oh all scores where taken from IGN.

slade

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @Scazza: PS2*** not PS3... I only know 2 people that own a PS3 *snicker*

Scazza

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> Must have for me. It's great to see that their are different ways that you can go through that one part of the game. I'll probably replay it more than I did Snake Eater, and I played that a lot.

Saint Anima

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @usfslacker: I beat MGS3, and almost everyone I know who owned a PS3 did too. Its a great game... Just had a broken camera in the first release..

Scazza

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @slade: Lets take a look at those reviews shall we?

Splinter Cell: 93
Splinter Cell Pandora Tommorow: 93
Splinter Cell Chaos Theory: 94
Splinter Cell Double Agent: 89

Time Span: Last 5 years

Metal Gear Solid: 94
Metal Gear Solid 2: 96
Metal Gear Solid 3: 94

Time Span: 10 years

So yeah, MGS has better reviews, but not by a long shot as you say. Not only that, but MGS has had years to "cook" so to speak, and I doubt MGS 1 would stand up today as well as it did back then, take the 85% that Twin Snakes got as proof of that.

As for your point that the game must suck because it has no blood, wow, thats just bloody sad. How that makes a game better for anyone is just beyond me.

Reviews taken from Metacritic.com

Scazza

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> Why haven't they released a MGS4 Demo yet? If they're worried about bugs, they can simply brand it as a beta instead. The graphics are alright, but at best they're no better than Gears of War, although I don't think it'll matter because MGS4 should be awesome. Also, I love how many people can't use the correct form of throne.

Heyyou27

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> Righty, seems to be what expected. Few things that caught my eye, and ear. In the last clip the MGS classic sound effects are really out of place and the first clips gave an impression that the areas are rather large and optional routes might actually exist this time. Some of the classic gameplay features stick out pretty badly in such a modern game, like the items popping out of bodies when dropped, the old sound effects, etc. But, really looking forward to this. Always in for some sneaking, be it Thief, MGS, or even... well, sometimes even Spliter Cell passes.

ara

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> I see way too many whiny little kids complaining about MGS4 in the smallest most idiotic ways -__-

This is hand's down the best looking PS3 iv seen. Kojima's folks and Insomniac need to give other devs lessons on how to get off their asses and code for teh PS3.

Deus_EpS

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> I still have my fingers crossed for Konami to come out and change their minds about the a demo release. Perhaps by Christmas time?

@usfslacker: "No one I know, save for one, made it all the way through MGS3."

Everyone I know completed MGS3.

See how points like these have no merit in the conversation at hand?

Jest

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @Spiffyness:

thank you. like everytime you see a killzone story, halo and halflife are there within minutes and everybodys thrashing eachothers games after that.

personaly ive played only metal gear solid on the cube which I loved. also ive played most of the splintercells which I loved.

omg, could it be that someone truly enjoys both ?!?

*universe collapses.

Latonone

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> So Ryan Payton says there isn't going to be a PSN demo of MGS4. That's cool. What I'm guessing they'll do is include a demo of MGS4 as an incentive for preordering the game. Just because they say "no PSN demo" doesn't mean there won't be a bluray demo.

turkeyfunk

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @slade:

FYI:

Calling people japs makes you look like an asshole.

Actually it shows people that you are an asshole.

Grow up.

kNZA

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @kingclip:

It looks good!

Unfortunately, the barrels in your inventory thing is plain stupid.

It looks dumb.

Why bother creating a realistic environment only to ruin it with a ridiculous design decision like that.

Plus the AI looks erratic at this point.

Graphics look great. Sound designed sounds promising.

Too bad about magic barrels killing the atmosphere.

kNZA

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @parad0x360: @Witzbold: Gotta go with Paradox on this one Witz. Although I love MGS, Splinter Cell does alot of things "better", and not 1 game every 3-5 years too!

You have "better" stealth, in that there is no crazy percent camo meter, and the sneaking and lock picking etc is just much more intense and nerve racking. No hiding in boxes/barrels.

You have "better" realism with the weapons. He dosn't carry around 30 guns, or a ton of rations, just a set of tools and the rest is up to you.

Story isn't some weird commentary on our genes and life and inherited traits. It actually makes sense, and actually has some sort of throw back to current events.

And come no, Sam Fisher is just a bad ass mofo (although snake is too, heh).

Also multiplayer (in Pandora Tomorrow and Chaos Theory) are brilliant and so far the MP in MGS not only puts me off with the whole "separate game" crap, but it just looks to be your basic X vs X combat, using the MGS engine, which imo, isn't very good for shooting (its perfect for the type of game MGS is, but dunno about adversarial combat)

Don't get me wrong however. I love MGS, and its the game I am buying a PS3 for more then anything else....

Scazza

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> Early 2008!!! PS3 owners will be really happy.. Watching the demo of MGS4 really amazes me and the game play is just awesome.

I played SC not great.

skyzxelementz

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @usfslacker: Splinter cell taking mgs thrown clearly your delusional bro check the reviews of mgs games compared to Sc games. Any gamer will tell you MGS is one of the best stealth games ever made SC dont even come close to mgs an the gameplay is so pc there aint even any blood. I have all the SC games an finished em all an i do enjoy the series but it only serves as a tied me over till a MGS game comes out.

As for the demo it looks AMAZING!!! an will be a definate system seller that an ff *especially ff japs are crazy for that lol* but for the first time owning a ps3 i can say im truly pissed off.. no psn demo...that blows man.

slade

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> The longer the wait the more boring the game hype gets. I don't realy care about MGS4 never got into it and also its only out for the ps3. well its a good job splinter cell is a exculsive to microsoft only out for the xbox360 and pc stealth wars will be begin.

ThunderBirdseye

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @Taz: I played the first one was great, thats it...

Is it just me or snake runs like weird...

TOCATL

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> I thought it was funny when the guy said something along the lines of "here, you might want to have this" and then proceeded to drop the thing on the ground rather than handing it to snake.

And I wonder where he fits the guns, rocket launchers, boxes and drums in his skin-tight suit.

cyhborg

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> I am completely not getting why this is so hyped. I could never get into MGS 2/3 (horrid controls and 3rd person) and this looks like more of the same.

Taz

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @Amazing_Steve: It's Hideo Kojima. You just sort of nod your head, smile, and go with the flow.

Spiffyness

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @not_tom_brokaw:

"splinter cell has taken MGS' throne? Hardly. I think people started losing interest in SC after Chaos Theory."

No one I know, save for one, made it all the way through MGS3.

usfslacker

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> WTF is with the pulling barrels and boxes to hide in out of thin air?

Amazing_Steve

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @libregkd: funny. wait not.

No this game looks legit. It already has a few features which make me go WOW, and the AI looks superb.

huginn

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @Spiffyness: Can we stop the stupid MGS/SC debate? The games are VERY different, and they're both very good. Splinter Cell strives to be hyper-realistic, slow-paced (in a good, tension-building way), and light on story. Metal Gear is arcade-like, fast-paced (for a stealth game, anyway), and very story-heavy.

In other words, one is Western and the other is Japanese. Really, that should separate them enough by itself. Personally, I like Metal Gear better, but that doesn't mean SC isn't really fun anyway.

Spiffyness

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @usfslacker: splinter cell has taken MGS' throne?
Hardly. I think people started losing interest in SC after Chaos Theory.

@taftsearlobe23: 5 minutes of gameplay followed by a 10 minute cutscene? I think you're exaggerating, but I still disagree. Maybe if you play run-and-gun through each area, you would, but if you get really picky and involved in sneaking around it's a lot more gameplay before each cutscene. Additionally your comment about the graphical quality doesn't hold much water; you have to remember you're watching a scaled-down version of the actual video, crammed onto a pretty tiny "screen."
--
This game definitely looks solid (pardon the pun), although it is kind of funny how Konami has had to go back on its word of getting it out in 07 (it was in one of the first trailers, remember?).
I'm happy to see both the Drum AND the Cardboard Box are in the game! I thought they'd ditched one in favor of the other.
I like all the tiny upgrades they did when you compare this to the presentation Kojima gave. The threat ring is a little thicker, so you can see it better; we get to hear some of the music Gregson-Williams has assembled for the game; what I liked the most (and please no complaining about it not being one huge map) is that it seems like the game will tell you what zone you're heading towards before getting there.

not_tom_brokaw

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @usfslacker: "Wow, I didn't know what you were talking about, had to watch it again. His ass sticks out like a sore thumb. Kojima revealing something maybe?"

It's pretty clear where Kojima's sexual orientation lies. Remember the "grabbing the statue member" animation from an earlier video? Or how about the "grab and takedown" animations, where it is clearly designed to look as though Snake is humping the fallen soldier.

It's a homoerotic feast of a game :)

Rotmm

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> 7.9 game confirmed.

Oh wait, this is a PS3 game, so there is an automatic .5 deduction from the score.

7.4 game confirmed.

libregkd

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> So have y'all noticed the names of the area? The name was MIDDLE EAST:something-or-other. Now, I could be wrong, but this seems like a pretty good indication that the game will take place in other locales. Otherwise, why would they put Middle East before the area name (like it's the name of the larger region of gameplay, similar to the Struts in MGS2 or the 3-to-4 area regions in MGS3)?

Oh, and me likey.

Spiffyness

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> mgs4 has me worried with some of the sillyness.theres a new meter that goes down affects your stamina or something and the only way to bring it back is to read a bikini magazine.sure that sounds fun for 1 try like gtas hooker sex but to make it an essantial part of the game is just weird.

listen to the hotspot i dont remember which episode but it was after tgs and they talk about the 2 new meters.

Truepatriot

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @Peryite:

MGS may be an acclaimed series, but it has/will NEVER have close to the system selling power that Halo has. The XBOX 360 sales surged because of the game's huge casual base (the ones that buy consoles for one game like Halo). This game cannot possibly have that large of a casual appeal.

usfslacker

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @jfx316:

Damned windows has failed me again, insert "throne" to satiate grammar whores. Also, if that qualifies as terrible, you must be new here on t3H 1nt4rn3tz!!!

usfslacker

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @Witzbold: Poor mans MGS? I fail to see how. MGS is incredibly unrealistic while Splinter Cell hangs more in the real world. Gameplay wise I have always prefered Splinter Cell. MGS is just..well it plays almost like an arcade game and since I could never get into the convoluted story and I dont find the gameplay anything special I havent been able to get into this series. I owned MGS on PS1 and MGS 2 on PS2. I played 3 and couldnt stand it and then I bought MGS2 on Xbox and again coudlnt figure out what was so good that people drool over it.

parad0x360

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @usfslacker: A lot of people thought that everyone who wanted Halo 3 already bought a 360 for it.
Didn't stop 360 sales from surging though.


Peryite

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @jfx316: Awh give him a break...He's a USF Slacker!

chainlink13

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @Toasticus:

Wow, I didn't know what you were talking about, had to watch it again. His ass sticks out like a sore thumb. Kojima revealing something maybe?

@Witzbold:

Not to say you're not correct, but if 10 more minutes of this game is that boring I'd have to take speed to watch the videos. Demos are supposed to make someone (that didn't buy a $600 system a year early just to play the game) want to play the game.

usfslacker

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @usfslacker: "Splinter Cell has taken your thrown"

terrible spelling confirmed.

jfx316

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @Witzbold:
by what criteria do you judge snake's asscrack better than raiden's ? ;D


cyhborg

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @Toasticus:

Thank you! Why do they have to make it so obvious? I'm not I like the new camera view -- doesn't have the same feel as the other MGS games. This gameplay video really didn't impress me much.

pyrealnova

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> In the third video, about a bit past the half way mark, did one of the guards say:

"Your the man now dog" ?!!?

Oh this game will be worth a ps3 purchase on its own.

huginn

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> @Toasticus: YES!

Its better than Raiden`s though.

@usfslacker: Splinter Cell is and always has been an ass poormans MGS. Its boring and I own most of the SC games.

Witzbold

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> Are we really going to have to spend the entire game staring at Snake's asscrack? T_T

Toasticus

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> This and LBP are the reasons I bought a PS3. Hope MGS4 doesn't let me down like the past two MG games did :(

DemonBlood

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> I'm glad they finally matched up the mouths with the words coming out of them, much like Capcom began to do a few years ago. I always take note of that when watching these trailers on video games. Besides that, this game looks like it will be the SOLE reason I buy a PS3. Nothing else looks that good.

Thassodar

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> Yeah, the graphics look great, but I can see this game still reeks of everything that made me stop finishing this series after 1 (Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...........); this game looks like its going to be a snoozefest. Sorry Kojima, but Splinter Cell has taken your thrown. Just from what I've heard, this stories going to be too convoluted to care about. I'm sure long time MGS fans will love it, I just don't see it being a system seller, as most MGS fans probably own one already having expected this game to be out holiday season.

usfslacker

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> Thats AWESOME I cant wait to get my hands on it

Chunkylover21

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> Did anyone else hear the guy scream "You're the man now dog" during the 4th vid?

wOOx

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> I love how in the last video there are still Japanese subtitles... Does that mean they are not far into the translation process?

Bei337

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> wow this looks great.Really looking forward to it.

kcgig101

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> I agree. Out of all that was at E for All, there were only lines for 3 things: MGS4, SSBB and Rock Band. And while I totally sucked at MGS4 and only had 15 minutes of play time, it looked amazing.

Jamez

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> From now on I will no longer pay attention to any MGS4 articles on any website.

Watching these videos hurt to damn much, this shit is torture. You hear that Kotaku you are tortuing us by showing us something we can't have (at least for the moment).

So for my personal well being the next thing I read about MGS4 will be about the release of the demo and the release date of the game.

LxLegend

]]> <![CDATA[MGS4: E 4 All English Demo Gameplay]]> So, I guess everyone is a Yankee?

Arthois

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