<![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 Wii - Kotaku Comments]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 Wii - Kotaku Comments]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 Wii]]> Oh, awesome! I was dreading that this was going to be a kiddie version a la EA, but they've done exactly what I wanted. Precision through balls! Controlling off the ball runs! Full control of of set pieces! Long passes that go to the right player! This is going to be the best Pro Evo ever.

cdammers

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 Wii]]> I like PES / Winning Eleven. I play with my friend sometimes in his Xbox360. The controllers are going to be complicated, because is a new way to play the game. Still I can see that you have full control of the players and the ball.

Full control of the players because you can tell them what you want to do (as seen in the video).

Full control of the ball, because you can send passes directly to whoever you want instead of passing one after the other (if you know what I mean).

Anyways, I will look more about this game before I decided to buy it or not....

Video

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 Wii]]> I'm a huge PES fan so this both excites and worries me. Shaking the nunchuck to shoot? What the hell? I'm willing to give the new scheme a try but I really hope they also have the old scheme in there somehow.

reddevil

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 Wii]]> @Akvj1n: If you notice, Konami is presenting this as "Pro Evo Ssoccer 2008 (working title)".

titiklabingapat

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 Wii]]> They should of just gone all out and called it PES Tactical Player or something.

Akvj1n

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 Wii]]> Looks like an RTS-version of soccer to me...I'll pass (and stick with the 360 version).

toper

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 Wii]]> I tink it's a nice change, for fans of the series they're more than likely already have an xbox or ps3, making the same version for the wii might not have been a good choice.

buxton

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 Wii]]> way too much going on , on the screen while you're playing. geez.

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]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 Wii]]> I'm on the fence about this. I love the idea, I'm just skeptical that they can pull it off. Also I hope they allow multiple control schemes, I can't see myself doing without the analogue stick for movement.

Breandán

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 Wii]]> Coming from a PC rts background, I DO NOT GET THE BITCHING about the control scheme at all. Mr. Article writer, I'm looking at you. It's like using, an air mouse, basically. I'm looking at you Mr. article poster.

But I guess it's damn if you do, damn if you don't on the Wii. Some will probably find this one easier to use than the gamepad navigation and call this one "dumbed" down. Then some will find this complicated and call this "too hard" even though they call themselves "hardcore".

But anyway, this is exactly what I bought the Wii for! Wow, I hope everyone copies their control scheme. I was actually hoping Madden implemented this, and a whole bunch of other team sports. We're finally breaking from the "gimmicky" angle and more into the serious and "appropriate" waggle.

Though I agree that they could have just mapped the shooting action to the button instead of shaking the nunchuk but we'll see.

And did I say I want more King Story type RTS on the Wii?

titiklabingapat

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 Wii]]> Like mentioned by some people before, the game seems to be more like a RTS what could be really interesting, but if there isn't more to the nunchuk gesture than activating the shoot, they should at least give us the opportunity to map it to a button. And to satisfy everyone who don't like the new gameplay, they should give us a control setup like in Mario Strikers, bc that works (imo) pretty good. :)

Superuser

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 Wii]]> What I can't understand is how this site screens potential users by evaluating the quality of their posts, and then puts up articles that contradict that principle. Why is the article writer criticising the control scheme for a game he admits he hasn't played? What he thinks it "looks" like is irrelevant. Unless he's played it, he isn't making a point.

This also goes to the people in this thread who've done the same thing. I personally think it sounds good, but my judgment is reserved until I finally get to play the game. I do agree that shaking the nunchuck is unnecessary though. They should've just mapped shoot to the Z button.

inphanta

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 Wii]]> Everything other than the shooting looks pretty cool.
Shaking the nunchuck doesn't seem like it would give too much control over power and accuracy.

cmdrpaddy

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 Wii]]> Hmmm. I'll wait til I hear more about the shooting technique first as those scrambles in the box could just turn into one big long waggle-athon. But passing and movement idea looks solid. Should save my voice from screaming at players who just stand there all the time waiting for me to give them the ball so they can run the pitch when in reality they're cack and won't get anywhere at all. The gloryhunting gits... Oh and PES, yes. Good game. Sorry got sidetracked. ;-)

NunianVonFuch

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 Wii]]> @mechawatts: The hell are you talking about?

The wii is the only system I own, so I wouldnt start down that route mate. This type of frantic game doesn't seem to suit the control method though, I would prefer something more basic to keep my head in the game rather than be fussing with the controls.

At least offer a traditional mode also... (didn't watch it through so excuse me if I missed anything regarding that)

Josh*

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 Wii]]> @Johnzim:
If you are right then that would be quite awesome, but it looked to me like the passing is still snap-to-feet style. I didn't see any passes going wayward as you would expect if the player has complete control.

IronsUK

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 Wii]]> Now I know why the Xbox 360 version is virtually identical to last year's edition. They spent all their budget on developing this crap Wii version. Pointless.

IronsUK

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 Wii]]> i'm terribly pumped for this game. this is what i had in mind when they first announced it and they seemed to add a little more.
may be a bit complex but there are too many times in PE that you point a direction and pass and it does not go to the exact point that you desired....
and no more waiting for the computer AI to do an overlap.

numchuck for shooting...curious to see how that'll work. i personally don't think the graphics look that bad but PES was never about graphics.

eatrice

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 Wii]]> Now that looks SWEET.

A LOT more analogous to real football. Putting the ball exactly where you want it instead of waiting for the UI to work out what you want. That is sheer greatness.

Football is all about positioning, making space and exploiting the positioning of your opponent, a good player will find positions for himself to occupy (the best can end up in gaps before they even start forming).

Football always suffered as a 3rd person game because you really had to rely on your AI controlled teammates to find the right positions then hope that the game understood what you were trying to do with your passes. This is exactly what's needed. If Konami can pull it off (and let's be honest, no one else could with a football game) then this will be the best football game ever.

Johnzim

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 Wii]]> Whoa!

I really, really like the control design of this...and I HATE soccer! :D

SidepocketPro

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 Wii]]> I'll stick to the 360 version!

Fieldog

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 Wii]]> Eh? Pro whatsawhosit?

theherlihyboy

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 Wii]]> Damn, my arms are gonna be sore after PES all-nighters from now on!
My eyes too. This looks a bit too intense.
Could be a revolution though! If you can't trust the Konami Winning Eleven team, who can you trust??

Nyago

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 Wii]]> Wow looks like PES 5 on PS2
Those controls are dreadful the whole point of PES is the easy of use and the technical plays you can achieve with the easy controls.

But I guess Konami want to sell as many copies as they can... cant wait to see the numbers of sales :P

It wont sell more then the PS2 or PSP version

Kum0

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 Wii]]> Watching this video has made me tired... "shake the nunchuck to shoot" is just plain evil

koji

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 Wii]]> But the most important question is what this will play like with two players. With all the lines it's going to be really easy to see what strategy of the other person is. If he's going to shoot, where he will pass etc. I'll stick to the 360 version myself...

dreamc

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 Wii]]> Wow, this could go either way. It really could mark a turn in the way soccer games are designed and played, but at the same time it looks like the learning curve is going to be pretty steep. I mean, the screen is a mess with all the information going on at once.

drewskisama

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 Wii]]> It looked like a mess at the start of the video when it was just drawing lines all over the screen, but with the captions saying "press A to pass" and "press A and B to one-two", it looks like it will become a nice combination of tactical movement and button presses.

I think that it could end up playing a bit like the new FIFA, with consideration taken to good movement and finding the space. I especially like being able to draw defense to make gaps!

And to top it all, it's Pro on a nintendo machine. I have been waiting for this game for years.

Clinical

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 Wii]]> @JOSH: Who's squeezing? Point and click. Seems pretty simple, like a football RTS.

And it is a new standard: If you think any of the *next* genration's consoles are going to go without motion-sensitive controlls, you'd better hang on to those antique controllers you love so much.

mechawatts

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 Wii]]> WOW! This is what i've been wanting for years now.

Soccer is a team sport, so I always thought it should control more like an RTS game than an action game.

I'm not a big soccer fan but I can see myself getting into something like this.

King Louse

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 Wii]]> I dunno it seems a bit too complex and all the stuff showing up on screen (circles, labels, lines, etc) make it look more like a simulation than a game...

On the positive side though, this will allow you to create good plays and make use of openings and get better passes and goals rather than pressing a button and hoping for the best. Lets see how it goes...

Kra1oS

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 Wii]]> They should make running Rayman Rabbit style ... that would be fun.

And I agree controls will suck and will be messy.

AmuroRay

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 Wii]]> Is there some obligation to squeeze Wii controls into games that clearly don't need it?

It's not "setting a standard" when no other platform can practically follow, anyway. it's doing something odd.

Josh*

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 Wii]]> Looks intuitive to me.... You point at things and press a button.... you can tell other players to make runs by selecting them by pointing at them and pressing a button.

The only thing that i can see being a little bit stupid is having to shake the nunchuck to shoot.... thought it makes sense if you're having to point the wiimote everywhere else.

Duoae

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