<![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again. - Kotaku Comments]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again. - Kotaku Comments]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> damn dude thats some bad luck. I've had my 360 for 15 months and it finally craped out. Now i sit here waiting for its "coffin" to come.

TheNewBreed

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> @NYCtribe:
For what, My PS3???
The console that is awesome!...except for gaming??
I don't have or need a script to answer what are obviously stupid questions from people who can' think for themselves.
If your "Shocked" by my solution to just get another console by simply saying it has a red ring to the person on the phone, your just naive.
The world can be a tuff place, you sometimes have to grow up and push your way to the front of the line.
Now, go take a break, your fingers MUST be tired after all your "opinion related" responses... ;)

billytech

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> Okay, don't know if anyone is still paying this post any mind, but have an update on my 360 crap-outs. The replacement unit I recieved 09/20/07 froze up while I was playing NHL'07 today. On restart it goes into the dash board without issue, but upon reading any disc now, I get the "to play this game put disk into an xbox 360 console" message. So that didn't take long...

First 360 was good for 8 months, replacement unit was good for just over 1 month, replacement for the replacement unit...guess we shall see when it gets here in about a month.

Can't tell you how happy I am with my xbox dying a second time the day before Guitar Hero 3 is released. Guess microsoft wanted me to save that $100 for something more important. It's great they're looking out for their customers...

dbushik

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> @Laxe:

Looks like MS is thinking about making the HD Drive internal:

[www.pcw.co.uk]

luxarific

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> My 360 RRoDed about eight months out of the box back on 08/19/07. I got a replacement unit 32 calendar days after that on 09/20/07 (and it only took MS two screw-ups on the repair order and four phone calls to make that happen).

So far eveything seems good, but it's only had about six hours of use, or less, since I got it back.

One thing to note on the positive side is that the replacement unit is much quieter than my original unit when playing off the disc.

Before, I would experience a noticable increase in noise when not in the dash board or playing live arcade (i.e. playing a game disc). Now, there is not nearly as much of an increase when a game disc is spinning. You can still tell the difference, but now it's not like a jet engine spinning up to speed.

Now it just sounds about as loud as a microwave oven. You know, normal.

Anyway, so far it seems good. Hope it lasts.

dbushik

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> Wow that really sucks. And guess what? The EXACT same thing happened to me. Except it wasn't a repaired console it was a BRAND NEW Elite straight out of the box. Same thing happened as described in the article. You can imagine my horror after finally plucking up the courage to give the 360 a go and its dead out of the damn box! Luckily for me I took back the next day to Gamestation and they replaced it no hassles. The guy there told me they get about 10 - 12 dead 360's every WEEK. :-/ not encouraging, specially as he was apparently on his 4th one. Still on a positive note my new one worked like a charm and I am now happily enjoy much xbox 360 goodness. But it definately wasn't a good introduct to it i'll say! Have only owned an xbox for a week and already on my 2nd! Now there's a record! Getting a brand new xbox that dies right away is bad enough but one that's apparently been 'repaired' is just a joke really... :-( hope you get yours sorted out soon.

PIXED

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> Recalls are only necessary when there's a chance for physyical harm, such as exploding laptop batteries or something.

Sony released defective PS2's into the market for years until a class action lawsuit was brought upon. This forced Sony to start extending warranties and get control over their manufacturing problems. Until that time, however, defective PS2's that DRE'd under warranty were fixed and sent back to happy owners.

This is where Microsoft is dropping the ball. The RRoD's can be controlled if Microsoft used a better clamping system on their chips then their current x-clamps. As of right now they're just adding more goop to the chips. This is the design flaw that Microsoft needs to correct.

Hopefully other 360 owners will continue to bring this flaw up in the forums and get this taken cared of once and for all. Remember folks, companies (Sony, Microsoft, maybe Nintendo) don't do things out of the goodness of their hearts.

Tepoz

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> The 360 just isn't worth the headaches that come along with it.

Action-Bastard

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> and this is why i trash on the Xbox 360 and sing the praises of the PS3

why some, no... a lot of you choose to deal with these headaches and the day to day tension of knowing your console will eventually die is beyond me

BigChiefSmokem

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> Wow... 5 minutes huh? Well, I was lucky enough to have mine back for 5 months before it fizzled out on me AGAIN. And no big surprise, but it did the same exact thing it did the first time when it broke down.

I didn't get the Red Light Trio Special the first time, but it didn't like XBOX 360 games. (It'd give me this white screen that said "To play this disc, please insert into a XBOX 360 console" in multiple languages. Umm... this IS a XBOX 360 console!!) At first, it'd only do it once or twice before it'd boot up the game. (I had to open the disc tray to get it to go back to the Dashboard, then close it again and hope it would read the disc correctly.) Before I sent it to Microsoft the 1st time, I wound up having to do it anywhere between 10-15 times, and sometimes the games would lock up during gameplay. (More often than usual... or that was usual for my console when it was brand new.)

I sent it off, and after 2 months, not 22 days... I'm talking an ENTIRE 2 months... it came back, and it seemed all was well. Until about a month ago... then I DID get the Red Light Trio Special. Weird thing is, it only did that once. But after that, any time I turned it on and tried to play a XBOX 360 game, it'd do the EXACT same thing it did the first time (white screen, opening/closing the disc tray desperately to get the game to load... very deja vu-ish). But it started out where I had to open/close the disc tray about 5-8 times to get the game to load, and games would freeze up VERY often. You could hardly play for 2 hours without it locking up at least once. If you turned on the console with a XBOX 360 game in it, it went to the Dashboard and in the "image" of the disc tray where it usually says what game is in the console, it said "Play DVD". WHAT?! And sometimes it'd say "CDX" when an original XBOX game was in the console... although it never had a problem reading XBOX games, DVDs, or CDs. Just XBOX 360 games.

This time when I called the 1-800-4MY-XBOX number, I got someone who could hardly speak or understand English, so I have really high expectations on my repair/replacement... not. If I get the exact same console back, I'm going to send it right back to them and tell them they'd better give me a brand new one... if they didn't get it right the first time, what makes you think they will the 2nd? Or the 3rd? Or the 10th?! How many times do I have to go 2 months without a console I obviously overpaid for?! What I'd REALLY like for them to do is send me a check to cover the cost of getting a brand new one, so I can go to GameStop and get a brand new one plus the 2-year ESA so if it breaks down on me within that timeframe, I can just go to my local GameStop store, show them my receipt, chunk them my busted 360, and they'll give me a brand new one right out of the box. No waiting 2 months... just 2 minutes. ;) (I HIGHLY recommend doing this, and I regret not having done it when I purchased the one that's on its way to Texas right now... for the 2nd time in less than a year.)

Matadore

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> @PapaBear434: Are you for real - you are on your fourth Xbox 360? Are you a sadist? Dude play Halo 3 till you have had you fill and then ebay it and get a PS 3 and seguay into Killzone 2, FF XIII, MGS4, Warhawk et all. Why you live through 4 broken consoles is beyond me...obviously you like the games but that is too much man.

NYCtribe

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> @essko: You will see a mass exodus when all of the PS3 AAA titles start to come out. The moment xbox 360 users find games that match up with their gaming needs I think they are going to ditch the xbox 360 console. No consumer in the world would put up with this quality issue.

Is Halo 3 going to be the end of the xbox 360 user base? It is going to be interesting to see! LOL!

NYCtribe

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> @billytech: Man you have a script? Do you know how that sounds to anyone not stuck in your position? You guys should be dumping that garbage console. A script?! I still can't believe you have script...Friggin mind blowing!

NYCtribe

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> I just don't know how anyone can put up with such horrible quality and still pretend to be happy with it.

I guess it does just speak to the desperation of what true hardcore gamers will put up with to play a decent game. This has indeed come as a result of the transistion time for new games for the PS 3 from the PS 2.

Microsoft is in serious trouble the moment satisfactory replacement games arrive on the PS3. I really think Microsoft is quietly freaked about this issue more than anyone understands.

With the launch of Halo 3 and millions of ticking xbox 360 time bombs everywhere it could truly be a much quicker end to the xbox 360's future and alot of people know this.

NYCtribe

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> In case this hasen't occured to anyone...When you get on the phone with Microsoft support over your broken console, here are the following answers you want to give.
Yes, it has three red rings aroun the power button.
End of quote.
Not, it has a color issue, it skips, it scratces discs, it barks at the effing moon on the equinox, or anything else.
the rrod's go to be promptly junked and a replacement console will be mailed to you.
If you called with a different issue, call back and say "red ring of death" and get you console replaced, even if it's a launch console, and has a totally different issue...and stop complaining.....
This isn't really hard...







billytech

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> I reckoned that there should have been an XBox recall but all the MS fanboys said that it wasn't worth it now that they increased the warranty to three years... The real world just doesn't work that way...

Duoae

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> A friend of mine who sent his launch X360 in for a problem involving a bad video chip just got his back today...The chip seems fine but apparently it overheats now....Just got my X360 back (it had a personal crisis in that it knew a X360 game was in there it just seemed to have forgotten it was a X360 itself and kept telling me to find a console if I wanted to play it) and I haven't hooked it up yet.

Here's hoping I don't see a puff of blue smoke or anything....

Parsifal

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> My launch 360 died a couple of weeks ago, so I was fearful of not having it in time for Halo 3. Being in Austin, it took only 1 day to get my shipping box from McAllen and 1 day for them to get it back (on August 30th).

Today, checking the service.xbox.com site, I see that I have a new serial number (SN:916127XXXXXX) and warranty changed to "In Warranty". I would have liked to have seen some shipping info, but I should see it next few days.

I will be very interested if the is actually a new box (Zephyr and/or HDMI), or a refurbished unit.

dropper

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> why does such a great platform have to be so shitty? i havn't had mine totally die yet but it freezez alot, but my ps3 however never has frozen or jittered or anything, same with the wii.... but 360 has the best games right now.... i hate this.

essko

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> at this rate give it a good smack. " Violence is the key", my cuz's motto. "If the child doesn't understand math, a smack on the head will do". And believe me it works

ohayou_kun

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> yea well i just got a new 360 after my last one broke and im taking it easy until halo 3 comes. no serious playing incase it decides to cease 2 exist

koman22

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> is it me or do repaired units tend to die at a much higher rate then retail units?

VenoMuS

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> I bet you they could save a whole lot of time just by turning on the console after they have fixed it, just to make sure everything is working. From what you've said, it sounds like they didn't even do that. Thats a real shame to hear though with all these amazing 360 games dropping now.

Mrmoo2002

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> They might have done it on purpose. What did you do to them?

rcarydon

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> 9 months strong here. :D

0starter0

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> This whole story was past ludicrous a LONG time ago. How people have been so patient, or how anyone may still show any kind of understanding towards MS on this one, it's beyond me.

This is a robbery in full day light, FFS.

thinred

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> My roommate just sent his 360 away for it's fourth "repair". I hope it's done soon...he's already going to be bummed knowing he'll miss the Halo3 launch.

krunkjuice

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> That's just awful.
X-Box has everything to be a great console system, but it can't because quality control is too bad.
Microsoft has to learn that people buying gaming consoles won't take this kinda cr*p.
And they made this mistake with X-Box, now they repeat on X-Box 360.
I do like some games exclusive to the 360, but I don't plan on buying one not before they make a reliable robust console.

Let's hope they do compensate you in some way Brian... at least you have some visibility, they'll have to do something to compensate.

Bokusatsu_Tenshi

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> I'm going through the same thing, but with a privately done repair by a tech shop.
The reset the chip on the board and gave me the good thermal paste (what the hell ever that means).
Now, a few months later I have the same problem.
Been fixed once, now it needs to be fixed again.
I wish Microsoft would just take care of it. Period. 33% or so of the units sold have this issue and have reported it. That's an insane failure rate.
They should diagnose it, then send out a proper box - regardless of warranty validation.
The only thing that makes me have any alliegence is the robust online community.







killavanilla

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> 5 minutes?! Can't believe this, MS. I'd call them right away and bitch about this until they agree to somehow replace the system ASAP. Because of the failures, it should be standard procedure for them to offer instant replacements in support stores or whatever, and only after that send the box to a repair centre themselves - after all it's never the same box that comes back.

kryo

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> If that happened to me, I'd call them and demand a working 360. You shouldn't put up with that. Don't go easy on Microsoft at all. Do something.

serpx

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> Yeah ... you really should send a letter to your contacts at MS ... and Ballmer, natch.

cello

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> Say what you want about GameStop, but when my 360 red ringed after about a year, I took it back to GameStop and they took the dead one and gave me a brand new one with the hdmi port and let me swap the harddrive. It took about 15mins.

It would totally suck to have to wait 3-6 weeks.


quyrean

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> ::sigh:: When mine breaks, I'm going to bargain with Microsoft to just send me the updated 360 so I dont have to get the same console back. Whats the point?

Kempatsu

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> I appreciate that you're trying to handle this like the rest of us would Ashcraft ... but you really need to escalate this problem. It's time to use KOTAKU and swing some weight around. Your RROD within 5 minutes was just bullshit ... NO ONE deserves to be treated like that.

dead_red_eyes

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> @Barbara: jinx

dadeisvenm

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> There is going to be a lot of pissed off people when Halo comes out. But hey, when your 360 dies you only have to wait 6-8 weeks to get it back so it can die again.

Phenom88

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> lol @ 5 mins...

Thats just friggin insane...

TheApprentice

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> Hate to say this, but if you had a warranty at best buy you could just exchange it for a new one (got to buy the warranty again, or not).

I hate warranties from retail, but if this keeps up I might just buy one so I can do a quick swap if one ever fails. :( Boo!

Android8675

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> I'm really scared for Microsoft when Halo 3 releases. There are going to be some real upset people if their 360's shit the bed when playing Halo 3.

The Xbox 360 Halo 3 Edition will be released on what the 16th? Wonder if it's got Falcon inside.

Jooptang

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> @ Snukadaman

The PS3 is having some problems, but it's mainly due to firmware and PSN issues. Sony is new to this online console gaming thing, which doesn't excuse them, but makes it slightly more understandable.

In terms of actual hardware, the failure rate is extremely low for a product with that much shit packed into it.

If the PS3 was having problems like the 360 is, it would be a big issue. There are a million fanboys who'd love nothing more than to bash Sony over the head with something like this.

On to the topic at hand:

I feel for you, Bashcraft. The reason I don't own a 360 yet is because of this very issue. 360 sales seem to have stagnated, and I expect that the RROD has a lot to do with that. You should all be entitled to a recall and a replacement with the new 65 nm chips and improved heatsinks.

@ GHETTELECTUAL: It's nice that your product is working, but "mine works, who cares about yours" is a completely selfish attitude. Do you think Microsoft will come to your home and pry your console from your cold, dead fingers? You don't have to do anything to it, if you are confident that it will never Ring on you. Keep it. But for those that do have problems (and for potential buyers, like me), it would be a Godsend.

artificial_intellivision

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> I love some of the comments on here:

"maybe it broke during shipping"
"maybe they sent you an already broken one"
"Well surely it didn't break on its own"

You guys need to realize that the 360 is a shoddily built piece of garbage. Geez, you guys really are Lemmings, just walking blindly into broken console oblivion, only to come out with a new one.....and DO IT AGAIN!?!?!

The Xbox 360 is like an ongoing George Carlin joke, it keeps breaking, and people keep buying them. Kinda sad really



bloodzombie77

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> OH SH*T SON!

Sorry to hear that, man. =( Bought my 360 in April and it still hasnt crapped out on me.

Of course, that doesnt mean that I dont expect it to at any moment... >_>

Raynre

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> I'm done with 360 if mine comes back and does the same thing. I'll get a PS3 because I've never had a Sony gaming system fail on me.

silentbobfan

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> The HD-DVD will probably NEVER go internal. If they wanted to back HD-DVD that badly they would've included it in the Elite.

Laxe

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> A recall is so necessary. My second console is on it's way out...I feel it.

ThisCharmingMan

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> @deadhouseplants: The telling thing about all of this is that Costco no longer sells Xbox360 bundles in their warehouses.

They do in mine (Alexandria, VA). I'm planning on buying one as soon as the HD-DVD drive goes internal. They sell them online too:

[www.costco.com]

luxarific

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> @deviantCharles: I wouldn't count on that Best Buy warranty. My 2nd box died in under a year. Future Shop (which pretty much is Best Buy) would not honor the extra warranty because Microsoft is covering the red ring under their manufaturer warranty for 3 years. Evidently Product Service Plans only take effect if the manufacturer warranty isn't covering you anymore (which they never tell you, it's in their legal jargon). Basically you are paying them money for coverage you cannot even use.

They told me to take a hike and now I have to wait for weeks instead of getting a replacement with the extra warranty I paid for.

Mike Maximus

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> Crap I just know my 360 will break when Halo 3 comes out.

Barbara

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> @ssjmichael:

Can tell you from personal experience my PS3 hasn't had one problem, and I bought it at launch. I used to work for Microsoft, and they put out crap.

Trauma_Hound

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> @Naelok:

I used to work for Microsoft, it's actually not the QA folks, it's upper management trying to meet unrealistic time schedules. Bugs get filed, then get pushed back.

Trauma_Hound

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> I read in GAMEPRO (Sept. issue) that Brian Crecente is on like his 8th or 9t console. lol

just give it a swift boot and maybe it'll work. can't hurt anyway.

sycodude

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> Why are people putting up with such crap? Demand your money back (if that's possible), and never deal with Microsoft again.

Knuckler

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> @TheIrishNinja: Ha. I can't say I wouldn't be doing the same. Hell, I'd blackmail MS that they'd get nothing but shitty reviews until they fixed their situation.

I got the extended ultra warranty from Best Buy for my 360, so I'm covered for a decent amount of time.

deviantCharles

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> If you know how shitty the thing is and you still buy it, now that's hardcore. At least get the insurance from the store.

VakeroRokero

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> So... two years into this debacle and they still have no idea how to fix the damm thing?
This is one of the worst consumer electronic ever!
I have sent my second one for repair and its been two weeks of no Bioshock, not sure Halo3 is worth all this aggravation. It better be a perfect 10.
If I was sure that Halo3 was going to be released for the PC 3 months latter, I would just sell it and wait for it.
Please stop trying to cover the sun with your fingers, this issue is a serious one and the recall idea is a very valid one, it could actually save MS from further pains and loss of customer loyalty. I am starting to miss my original xbox very much. Might as well dust of my PS2 and get GOW2 to pass the time.
Peace...

Thewise

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> why should i buy a 360? i mean i hear about the reasons: "greatest game line up in the world; more exclusives then PS3; xbox live, etc" but if the system dies, the REPAIRED system, in this case, in five min. what's the point?


warranty or not, the 360 is too much of a pain in the ass for me too mess with at this point in time.

jfx316

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> @Tepoz:

That crap wasn't acceptable then mate, it certainly isn't acceptable now either! How people can continue to sink money into a console that has such a bad failure rate that even in the UK 'Watch Dog' has done a feature on the 360's troubles.

Btw, for those who don't know what 'Watch Dog' is, it's a British consumer-protection show which shows up all kinds of scams etc. This is proof enough that M$ aren't taking this crap seriously!

$1 billion on a 3-year warranty? They should've given that money out to those who's 360's have RRoD'd AND done a recall as compensation. Come 25th September, we'll be seeing more 360's commit suicide after Master Chief comes out guns blazing...

Mark my words.

Laxe

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> Or you can buy PS3 for $500 (60GB) or get PS3 for $400 (40GB) if the rumor turns out to be true for this holiday season. So you can't say PS3 is more expensive than 360 by then.

At least you'll get a tank :)

HobbaHobba

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> Sheesh, at this point just buy a $500 PC and get Bioshock off Steam.

Buran

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> @bluefire:

From listening to a couple of podcasts, it sounds like your system is almost to the point of getting the RROD. You should leave it on for a few hours and it should get it. If not, you could "help" it overheat and that should finish the process and give you the RROD.

OmegaRed59

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> @Vots: "as a journalist"? i call bullshit; that was me, id be cussing up a storm, he was way more mature about it.

that isnt the only reason recalls are done, as well.

TheIrishNinja

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> And that's why I bought a PS3 and traded all my 360 stuff.

superbabyproject

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> this is exactly why I've been afraid to get an 360. Yeah there are a few really good games on it that I can't get for the ps3 but it's not worth the potential of a $400 paperweight.

$499 for a system built like a tank sounds much more reasonable to me.

afmvdp

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> As a journalist, you should know to make smarter comments then saying in fanboyish ways "they should do a recall".

Recalls are only done on products when the product is can cause bodily harm to the consumers.

Vots

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> this is getting ridiculous.

in any case, it shows they dont favor anybody..

Latonone

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> I'm not sure if it works the same for the JP models, but here in the states you are not sent back the same console that you sent in for repair. I am on my fith "repair" wich means I am awaiting console nuber six! I do believe that I am recieving a repaired or refurbished console each time, hence the need for so many replacements, but each console they have sent me has a new serial number and date of manufacture. I had high hopes for #5, or Johnny Five as I had already named him, it was only fifteen days old.

mubafuba

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> No wonder the Japanese are reluctant to spend their money on an a 360. If these issues were addressed at pre-production the console would be doing much better in my opinion.

homernoy

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> they should have a lifetime tracker on how many hours the console has been on to detect and see if that has anything to do with the rate of RRoD.

i mean if you play it less are you just delaying the inevitable?

diablofreak

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> My second one just died about a week ago. My first one died slowly, so I was hoping my second one would hold on, but it was pretty much toast. RRoD on boot, or crashing after 2 minutes. So, the phone guy (the two times I've talked to them they were very nice people both times) suggested I turn it on and we can try to figure out what is wrong with it. One of the dumber ideas I've heard. But, to humor him, I turn it on, and obligingly it RRoD's immediately, no start up sound or audio. Phone guy said he'd send me out the return box right away! So I am dismayed that Micrsoft is indeed sending out units that break after a short time (mine, about four and a half months), which means they either have not identified the problem or they just don't know how to fix it (or maybe there are lots of problems). My PS2 has maybe crashed twice in all the years I've had it, but it still runs solid.

natpoor

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> XBox was great until games came out for PS3. Warhawk! Greatest game ever! NHL08... AMAZING! Madden, GRAW2! HOME is coming! Blue-Ray movies!!! Take your 360 and throw it in the ocean.

superdynamite

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> The problem is that Microsoft keeps recycling the same defective units through their RMA process. They get it back, they "fix" it, and send it out to someone else who has a problem. Then the same cycle continues.

ShadowFalls

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> One of the things I have recently realized is why conosle owners have forgiven Sony's track records of console defects, especially with the PS2 and the laser lens/voltage problems. The difference is that when the PS2 went belly up, it went belly up. You knew you had to buy another PS2 after your warranty was up (30days, 90days, or 1yr). If you were lucky enough to have your PS2 go belly up while under warranty, you would get a fully functioning PS2 back from the Sony repair center (without any officiial explanation why it happened, mind you). This is where Microsoft's problem is. The 360's are going belly up under warranty and yet people are still having problems with them when they come back. This is totally different from the Sony PS2 problems where they were fixed completely after coming back.

The 1yr warranty extension was possible because 360 owners demanded it and Microsoft knew full well that a Sony style class action lawsuit would happen if they didn't. The problem is that extending the warranty is only the first step. Sony was also forced to extend their warranties but they knew what the problems were on the PS2 and they corrected them. Again, nothing officicial was ever said about the PS2 defects but we all know what they were. This is where Microsoft is dropping the ball. We all know the defects have to do with the mainboards flexing due to the intense heat inside the 360's and their current x-clamp systems are inadequate to deal with the chips losing contact when the boards flex.

I was willing to give Microsoft a free pass since I did the same with the PS2. The difference is that the PS2's came back fully functioning after being repaired for unspecified problems. The 360's are not.

Fix the board flexing issue Microsoft. We know what the problem is and now you need to make sure your manufacturers and repair centers understand the problem too.

Tepoz

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> Microsoft wave goodbye to your market share.

warf0x0r

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> @TheIrishNinja:

You can get a cheap thumb drive or use a USB mass storage device like an mp3 player. If you have anymore problems just email or call SONY directly. Good luck.

Mongoosekun

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> Let me be the next to jump on the "hey, that SUCKS" bandwagon. If Microsoft has any sense, they'll next-day airmail you a new console after reading this, in hopes of getting *some* good publicity out of what is otherwise a huge debacle for them...

ach77

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> Well shit, I'm pissed for ya man. Sorry to hear that >.<

Culebra

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> In the states gamestop has used consoles for 189.00 (core) 20bucks for 1 year extended warranty, and for another 60 you can get a used harddrive. 270.00 all together, and you can do even exchange if you have a problem. I recently purchased a 2nd 360 from GS just because of my fear of getting the red ring on my under warranty console(Which by the way has been off to M.S. 4 times, and I bought at lauch) I love 360, but it has a better chance of failing than working. Sorry for all the drama with your console. Here is the link: [www.gamestop.com] they're out of stock, but like I say I just picked one up a few weeks ago.

Y0URGOD78

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> Xbox 360 failures during the Halo 3 launch window might help give fanboys the backbone to demand a recall. One can only hope American consumers won't keep bending over indefinitely.

Mongoosekun

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> I don't think a recall of all Xbox 360s sold is necessary. However, I do think that MS should start replacing Xbox 360s instead of just "repairing" them. Because let's face it, the repairs just don't seem to cut it.

All these people you hear about who've gone through five, ten Xbox 360s... the reason that number's so high is becuase after each fix they're being given a refurbished Xbox that is extremely unreliable.

C'mon Microsoft, if a person's Xbox breaks, and you fix it only to have it break again, it's time to ship that person a brand new console. It's just that simple.

Number41

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> TigerDirect is selling refurbished premium 360's for $299.00. It might be worth looking into, because hopefully they have been refurbished with the new heatsink. That said, MS replaced my 360 when I started to possibly imagine a game play slow-down in Test Drive Unlimited. Although the replacement unit had a noisy DVD drive, the unit itself has performed very reliably. MS would have replaced the unit because of the DVD drive, but I kept it anyway, and haven't had any DVD problems since. One of the problems with the early units was there apparently was nothing out there that could stress the unit fully until Gears of War came out. Using all three cores simultaneously probably puts a level of stress on the system that MS couldn't duplicate long-term when testing the units before shipping. Hopefully that issue has been resolved.

bornonce

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> @tannhauser: I'm with you there, I was afriad to use my 2nd replacement. Then Bioshock came out and killed it within 1 hour. I sent two in for repair and if I have problems with them again I think it's the end of that 360. PS3's game catalogue might suck, but at least with the one or two games i actually do play on it i'm not fearful of the thing crapping out at any second.

Mike Maximus

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> @Ashcraft --- Dude are you even surprised that it broke down at this point? I am currently on my 4th 360. The sad thing is that I am at a point where I no longer want to play games in it for fear it will break down. That, to me, is the biggest blow Microsoft could ever get. It will turn off current owners of buying new titles, and as word of mouth gets out, it will turn off potential new buyers.

tannhauser

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> Ok, now I'm officially scared.

Alalu

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> @Sharpfish: I don't get why you would say "I would have missed out on these games" if you had merely waited to buy your xbox 360... I mean, it's not like you couldn't buy those games today... infact, you could buy them at a reduced price-point. You wouldn't have missed out on playing those games, you would have missed out on playing those games while they were the newest, baddest-shit around. I can understand "I can't wait" logic of impatience, but I can't understand what you said.

kenkankendo

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> We now know who is not playing Halo 3.

jackal888

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> @Rebochan: jinxs

@ Ashcroft

Can you just buy a new one and have Microsoft reimburse you for it, because this is ridiculous.

dadeisvenm

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> I figured they'd have the bugs fixed when I purchased mine in May 06, then I checked the manufactured date and it said Nov 05. Kinda strange for a console that was supposedly sold out for a few months. I've had to send it back due to it not seeing the wireless controllers but no RROD just yet.

decoy-b

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> I had a brand new Wii do that to me.

No 360s though. Knock on wood.

Rebochan

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> And that, boys and girls, is why the 360 willl never sell in Japan.

BrokeN

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> If I were M$, I would make triple-sure that everyone famous (or published) got a BRAND NEW xbox as fast as humanly possible.

I might be dishonest but this is business!

They just lost a few PR points right there.

kNZA

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> By replaced Xbox360 is an new one (not fixed) but i would like to know the construction date.Any one knows where can i find that information?

dekaneas

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> No! And it's less than two weeks until the Halo 3 launch!!

I am so sorry. Bet Microsoft is even sorrier. Nothing like having the Kotaku staff machines (either loaners or the blogger's own personal box) dying en mass in front of all our eyeballs.

Chilly Hollow

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> @sadkermit: Ah - I thought that RE5 was for the PS3 as well - and based on the Wii sales, I wouldn't be surprised if it isn't eventually ported over there as well.

johnhummel

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> It's official, I will now scrap any plans on getting a 360. Oh how I'll miss RE5.

Oh well, you hear that Capcom? You just lost another sale due to MicroSofts' hardware issues. I for one ain't throwing my hard earned money down on this device.....not now.

sadkermit - soon to be banned for standing up to the ummm nazi.

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> @Theirishninja:
An iPod will work if you have it formatted for win and set for storage use. (Some people don't enable that function.)


RaepGoblin

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> crap! i hope this doesnt happen when my 360 comes back =(
is there a 360 support group yet in the world?

Truepatriot

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> @Dunny0: This isnt luck its engineering.

sectionz

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> This kinda crap is so disconcerting. I walk on egg shells around my 360. I make decisions like "get bioshock on the pc, and save my xbox for halo 3 and mass effect." I know its a ticking time bomb, and I want to make sure it doesnt go off while I have a full slate of games I want to play.

Even more annoying is that microsoft is now blowing out all this inventory after the price cut that are all essentially RROD compatible models. Its not a great way to treat their customers. They are very very lucky they have games like bioshock, mass effect and halo3 to be the sugar while we swallow our bitter pill.

Belain

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> "Welcome to the world of Xbox 360!"

"My controllers... they... they don't work"

"THIS IS YOUR LIFE, NOW!"

Gamemaster

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> Well a broken 360 is sadly the price you pay for having one (I own one mind you so this isn't PS3 fanboy bashing). I think most 360 owners knew full well the risk and if/when my 360 breaks down I'm not going to raise a huge stink about it calmly go through the proper channels to get it repaired. I am worried what I would be doing without my prime gaming machine for 2 weeks, I guess I'll finally get around to playing Metroid for the Wii.

On a similar note my 6 year old CRT monitor just burned out on me and now I have to use an even older CRT monitor I had in storage (about 5 minutes before writing this). I know it's not as bad as losing a whole system but at least you can take comfort in knowing you're not the only one having problems with hardware.

LordNova

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> you need this t-shirt!

[www.splitreason.com]

Nettwerk

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> Well I wouldn't say it is horrible luck. It seems more like horrible norm. My launch 360 died and cost me $139. I am still waiting on the refund. My refurb arrived and was DOA in less than 20 minutes. I sent that back and a third arrived. I haven't even plugged it in yet. HALO 3 is just around the corner and I have Legendary paid off. If I plug the 360 in and it dies again I am finished with MS.

Hatchetforce

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> It's been said before but these problems are out of control. There's no reason a dedicated system like the 360 should be having these kinds of problems, especially after being serviced once.

I'm trying to decide whether I want to purchase a 360 or PS3 for the holiday season and it bothers me that one of the factors is whether or not my console will last me to Boxing Day.

Wolfrider31

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> @topbravo22: I thought this might be like Windows.

Windows 1.0 sucked. So did Microsoft Web TV.

Windows 3.1 (the "true" sequel) was actually pretty good. So was the Xbox.

Windows 95 - the true 3rd version of Windows - was good once you patched it up. So, the 360 is really version 3 - and based on Microsoft's history, it should have been the one that worked.

Well, I guess after some more "patches" - hardware, this time.

So I'm still willing to wait until it's fully patched. Of course, if Windows ME and Windows Vista are any signs, that means the Xbox 720 and the Xbox 1080 will be *really* horrible....

johnhummel

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> @johnhummel: probably not...

topbravo22

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> @DELICIOUS_BUNNY: Personally, I'm willing to wait until next year. They've *got* to have this problem fixed by then.

Right? Maybe?

johnhummel

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> That's really fucking poor. It will be interesting to see how MS react. Kotaku is getting pretty big these days so I would imagine they'll want to deal with this quickly and quietly. MS can't just replace it with a better one on the quiet either as all the XBLAH games revert to demos if you're not logged into Live.

Still, my launch 360 is going strong so I can't complain. I'm certain it's because it's next to my desk fan so it gets adequate cooling.

photoboy

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> This is totally pathetic! The Xbox 360 is at the right price point for me, but I know I harp on about it, but this sort of thing is simply unacceptable!!!!! Until these machines are shown to last about at least 3 years without breaking down, they won't be seeing my money regardless of how good the games are. There is no point having good games if I have to treat the console with kid gloves and living in fear of it breaking. It does not matter if the games are good if I keep having to send the damn thing off to get repaired.

What's even more astounding is the Xbox 360 fans who have been burnt time and again, yet blindly stick with it. There is no incentive for Microsoft to sort this SHIT out, if fans just keep buying the *newer* model in the hope that that fixes the endemic problem. Vote with your wallets people, all companies understand that language!!

Just as Sony appears to be killing their brand, Microsoft may soon be killing their 1 year lead.

sauvage

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> Haha my 3rd one finally died on me 2 weeks ago as well (3rings). I knew it was bound to happen, becouse of the weird noises it was making and lockups during the games...

I loved the time with my XBOX360(s) i really did, but enough is enough. Fuck MS, fuck Xbox360, fuck their policies, im picking up PS3 next week.

neojam

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> Wow, I kind of want an Xbox 360. But I've been scared to death hearing all the horror stories. The past year or so.

To all you guys having problems with your systems, I believed you even when the fanboys tried to shove you guys in the closet by accusing you guys of giving your systems baths and juggling with them, or what ever inane excuse they came up with...

It is undeniable, the Xbox 360 has a serious defect. Too bad, I think Microsoft would sell more systems if they actually worked, rather than trying to bait people with a measly $50 price drop.

When ever Microsoft wants to get their act together I'll be waiting.

Rioracer916

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> Bad luck, Bash! I'm still wondering when my second 360 will brick. It's making strange clunking noises....

I'd phone up and kick up a stink until I got a brand new elite or something. Of course, this is me, and I have a bit of a consumer's right's mouth on me..... :D

nimagraven

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> Good thing Microsoft doesn't build cars...Or do they? And do they call them Kia's?

waterhand

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> @silentbob343: I've mentioned it a couple of times, but they keep rewording it as "compensation" and then not ringing me back.

They have until 5pm tonight to ring me back (based on what they said 2 days ago)

brooza

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> @brooza: Nope, MS states that is not their policy. Can't hurt to ask, but others have tried.

silentbob343

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> Colgate 360 Vs xbox 360? the toothbrush lasts longer .

phonicpod

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> @TheIrishNinja: these controllers just aint right for sf2...but i got it andt await your purchase man...im down.

Snukadaman_

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> Also, does anybody know if it's possible to get a refund on them?

brooza

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> My second one has just died (only played it for an hour or so in the month since I got it back).

MS are supposed to be ringing me back about compensation, but I'm not holding my breath - they were supposed to be ringing me back shortly after I got it back seeing as I can't get it to connect to Live any more

brooza

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> @ashcraft:
Yeah...it's a damn shame, really. The crappy thing is that the 360 probably has the most impressive game library thus far for next gen...I wish I could say the same about their laughable hardware. =/

y2kenjination

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> This is why I just can not see buying this console, do I want to play Bioshock? Yes, but not if it means buying a console that is gonna die on me and cause me so much frustration. I just don't understand how any console could be this defective.

-WPack911

WPack911

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> If it's any consolation, I had to attempt the download of the PS3 firmware 5 times before it was successful. Sheesh.. It's 4:41 am and I'm up because of a nasty nightmare....

Fujoshi

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> @Snukadaman_: it was the only one they had at the ghetto arcade down south for a while! i mailed in a freakin' polaroid at a young age.
dont get it twisted tho; i end up getting SFII HD for XBL as well when it drops, you can bring Ken, if you want to see Vega/Zangief/character of your choice take 'im to school, son!

TheIrishNinja

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> Jeez, when will people learn that the only way to make a company like microsoft take action to remedy this problem is to NOT BUY THEIR BROKEN HARDWARE.

As someone who has worked in the software industry for many years, I know what microsoft is like. I avoided their xbox console because it was cumbersome and had nothing of interest to me. I am avoiding the 360 because I know it will work about as well as microsofts other flagship product, Windows. Sure I am missing out on some good games, but I am also missing out on the pain caused by a broken console and a 3 week wait for a repair.

If you buy from microsoft, you have only yourself to blame for the unhappyness of a broken console and a long wait for a repaired machine :(

johnnywashngo

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> @TheIrishNinja:
well the guys name was trickman terry for gods sake..hahahaha dam..sf1...you are hardcore dude...I hated that game with a passion....hahhaha now street fighter 2...ken was the man...and in my hands he was quite deadly...especially with the super nes controller...lol

Snukadaman_

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> @justhesh: For that matter, it could very well have been the shipping that borked the unit. The things don't come equipped with shock absorbers, if you know what I mean. How is it shipped? Maybe something's rattled around in there. If that were the case, you might wanna have a friendly chat with the shippers.

justhesh

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> Seems a little odd, considering the problem started with controllers.

Are you sure it's even broken and not just playing wit you? Can we safely assumed you tried again later, or that you plan on it? Seems like it'd be an awful bother for you to send it out for another month if it were simply a fluke.

justhesh

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> That is only your 3rd xbox 360 brian. Your a light weight, im on my 5th, talk to me then.

Dimipapa

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> @Snukadaman_: heh, trickman terry totally took a hint i sent in on mario all-stars and printed it as his own! true story. at least my high score from SF I (arcade) got printed in the day, even if they listed me as from the UK for some reason.

@kagebutsu: its cool to be pissed that sony charged too much this gen, and you want a ps3 for FF XIII like so many others will (if its any consolation a) it cant be more than $400 by the time it comes out, and b) at least the online'll be sorted by then), im just saying: youre crapping on sony in non-sony related threads here, that looks like trolling 's all. nothing personal, just callin it like i sees it.

@silentbob343: yeah, ill likely try again tomorrow after sobering up, i just saw the boss of area 3, so im not feeling the current gen at the moment. cant imagine sony wont fix this by the morning, anyway.

TheIrishNinja

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> this is ridiculous. i seriously can't believe the crap that microsoft is pulling. i bet once they see how a high profile industry journalist's repaired 360 crapped out, they are going to come knocking on your doorstep pleading for forgiveness.

AroundTheFur

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> @silentbob343: It might have some good games but it doesn't have anything that is worth the price tag, nor will it have any games like that for a very long time. But then again thats just my opinion.

kagebutsu

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> Repair not coming back repaired. Yep that sounds like microsoft. Took them two goes to fix mine, and they still didn't get it right. Went out and got a new one.

kriv

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> @kagebutsu: That's the thing; it is a good system and it does have good games. You can argue it doesn't have great games or it isn't in your budget.

@TheIrishNinja: Sorry to hear it didn't work. I guess keep trying through the PS3 or borrow a flash drive. Who knows maybe after few hours when the servers aren't getting pounded it'll update. Sucks though, I feel your pain.

silentbob343

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> Brian, the only recommendation I could make is to request both the Xbox 360 and the power supply be serviced just on the off chance the power supply is at fault and not shoddy repair work on Microsoft's part. I would also request more than a month's compensation for Xbox Live.


It shouldn't have died in the first place, but I wish you the best of luck. I hope I don't have to go through what you're going through right now whenever my "repaired" Xbox 360 is returned.

Kain-Xavier

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> @TheIrishNinja: FYI I have played the PS3, motorstorm in fact (it was worth a rental imo). And my frustration comes mostly from the fact that I would like to own a PS3 in the future for the final fantasy games but sony is making so many mistakes that I can't help but be enraged at their brand. And whats wrong with complementing nintendo on being smart and putting gamers first while insulting sony for trying to make us pay ridiculous prices for lackluster titles.

kagebutsu

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> @TheIrishNinja: preaching too the choir my brother....yepp...egm was electronic gaming monthly with ed fries in my days...owned a vetrex with 5 games....colecovison with donkey kong...indeed indeed.

Snukadaman_

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> @Sailorcancer: you know, i kinda give you a free pass for being on board ps3 here & there, but youre gonna end up banned for trolling if you keep the potshots going, and that's a shame. seriously, what's the beef? i wasnt keen on MS last gen, but you cant deny theyre putting out some quality titles this gen, why the continuing hate?

TheIrishNinja

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> @kagebutsu: singling you out cause you rank on sony every chance you get, even in non-sony related threads. be honest, you even played a ps3 yet? smart money's on "no", its just cool to bash it.
glad you enjoyed the ps2 like we all did (mostly), just lay off the name-brand hate and ill leave you alone. posts like "Good for nintendo, they deserve it, sony can go burn in hell." dont help your cause one bit, but i give you the benefit of the doubt.

TheIrishNinja

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> That's horrible. I'd probably try the towel trick at this point due to the recently released Bishock and and the soon to be released Halo 3.
---
@Sailorcancer: I'm sure it is since this story had nothing to do w/a broken PS3, but that really doesn't matter when the best games being released over the next few months are on 360 and not the PS3(other than Orange Box which is multi-plat and Ratchet and Clank).

Spartan1308™

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> Bummer man.

Things like the the long wait and the possibility of a fix not even being that make paying $50 for a replacement at EB seem that much better.

A 30 minute hassle and a whole new system, totally worth it for me.

Tetelestia

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> That's shoddy repair work at its best right there! You have my sympathy.

akwinters

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> @Akin: you might have a point; the format's got its ups and downs. if you were in my position, no doubt youd easily patch shit with a lot less effort. i could argue that i spend a lot less not having to upgrade vidoe cards, but then again, im looking at an HDTV that i just finished paying off, so to each their own, i figure. plus, my reluctance to PC games means i have to play catchup & figure out the hype behind Deux Ex, Fallout, and so many others. christ knows my current PC runs uh, Grim Fandango and Sucmm VM.

@Snukadaman_: no doubt! if youre a gamer and you kept up with this shit since the analog days of game mags (before the internets, when we got news once a month, and a game/system's sucess was based on how many kids you know that rocked that game/system), you should be able to sniff PR bullshit a mile away. "things break?" "we dont pay for exclusives"? haha, sure enough, that shit works on kids who didnt start gaming in the arcades, but my ass is damn near 30, try again! which means, ive finally got the expendable income & fiscal responsibility to actually buy all 3 systems when im ready to do so, so if you dont come through on what i was hoping for, its cool, ill sell my system to someone eager to do your PR work for free.
Ill be honest, i know PS2 owned last gen, and we all know - fuck, analysts couldnt say it enough - this gen was gonna be way more spread out, but look at just the holiday 2007 lineup; no matter what youre into, there's enough going around for anybody no matter which system you banked on. why we clown on each other to make ourselves feel better about which system we chose, like its a freakin football team, is beyond me.

on that note, not enough jack in me to finish the 3rd subsystem as it turned out...made it to phase/level 8 of 10, trying again so wish me luck!

TheIrishNinja

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> That's terrible, I feel for you.

pfive81

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> @y2kenjination:
Yah, I think I'm too shell-shocked to be furious. Know what I mean? This is just so silly. Get your act together Microsoft! People are watching!!

Brian Ashcraft

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> @THEIRISHNINJA first of all i'm not a troll no matter what you say, I simply give my opinion on topics, which is what you just did. If I were to use that definition I could just as easily call you a troll. And I have no clue why you single me out as as being anti-sony. I am certainly not the first person to bash sony on here and I won't be the last. I even have a PS2 and love it, its a good system and has good games, the PS3 is neither.

kagebutsu

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> @TheIrishNinja: and with that post sir you are my new hero...I agree 150%..my thing is we have both been gaming for so long we know PR bullshit when we see it..you got your problems and I have mines but its all for fucking games...not microsft is god or sony is teh shit...they are both full of shit and have problems...but in the end we will always play regardless of system loyalty ...with that said enjoy your games and your beverage.

Snukadaman_

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> @TheIrishNinja:
Actually, things like this is why I only use my 360 to play games that aren't on PC and don't have a similar game on PC.

Proprietary platforms and closed systems suck.

Akin

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> @KrackerWP: Now that is a good anecdote!

Aex

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> Horrible...absolutely horrible. This is fuckin' ridiculous. Does Microsoft actually expect 360 owners to GAME? What with them having to send their broken 360's off every so often. Brian, perhaps your words don't really express your frustration, but I'm surprised you're not more upset about this. I'd be furious. Hmm...almost makes me wonder if I should just get rid of my 360 =/

y2kenjination

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> @kagebutsu: you know, youre one of the biggest anti-sony trolls on here, but i just wanted to say: i hope your system doenst crap out either, everyone deserves to play through their next favorite game. good luck.

TheIrishNinja

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> It was probably never fixed dood. Is it even the same serial you sent out?

versellios

]]> <![CDATA[Bashcraft's "Fixed" Xbox 360 Dies. Again.]]> Even if 30% of 360s fail, for one person to have multiple failed boxes (with nightmare stories of 5+ failed boxes in a row) is statistically improbable.


I think one of the things people need to look into if they have multiple failed boxes is the environment they place their 360 in. Any cramped TV stands are a no-no, placing 360s on carpet is a big no-no, and places where the average temperature is fairly hot to begin with should be extra careful. Should we have to take these measures to ensure our gaming? Well, no, but it would most likely solve many of the people having multiple failed boxes.


Many editors tend to have multiple gaming machines and cramped offices, so it exaggerates the problems the 360 has with bad airflow and heating mitigation, so that's why we see an abnormally high number of failed 360s with gaming editors.


The majority of 360 machines are still doing well, and my Elite (with the new heatsinks) has never had heating issues thus far. Place it on a nice open glass TV stand away from other electronics and your 360 will be fine.

Jeff9731

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