TRT-X

keyransolo

Tuxy79

ManjiKengo

KiyuKo

Hey, that would be awesome...

Sabre_Justice: Okay, no more long name.

ConstyXIV

we will just have to wait and see...

Vecha

Hell it worked for namco and capcom pretty well

huginn

TheIrishNinja

I wanted to like FF but FFXII didn't quite make me a convert. But a friend of mine lent me FFX and I'm gonna check it out one of these days when I have time

Morgoth

Well I wouldn't recommend FFX to him if he prefers specialization, since the Sphere Grid allowed each character to do basically the same stuff, bar limits, IIRC some spells, and summons. IX would be the way to go, since it gave every character a reason to be on your party.

Aion

KenshinSlayer

KenshinSlayer

Unastheslayer-PSN

Unastheslayer-PSN

I also thought the character models were lazy as their armor didn't change depending on what you had equipped.

And why don't more rpgs have parties of six like baldur's Gate back in the day.

Morgoth

One thing that I know, is that if the battle system and story are anything like in FFXII, SE will have another fan give the franchise the finger.

And indeed, Level 5 looks like the most likely dev to become the king of jRPGs.

Aion

Upsilon

It would be cool if they all of a sudden reavealed that ff13 is playable to everyone's surprise at TGS...well it's nice to dream...

Morgoth

......it won't happen. At least it won't happen for Final Fantasy 13. From what little we've seen of the game, it'd be near impossible to port it to the Wii, even after lowering the resolution to 480p. I suppose its theoretically possible we could see it on the X-box 360, but I doubt that as well, considering the poor sales of that console in Japan.

Now, Final Fantasy 14, or some other Final Fantasy 13 side story, we could definitely see on the Wii. In fact, if the Wii continues to sell like it has been for another six months or so, I would say that such a move would be almost inevitable.

I mean, Square talks about visuals, but the actual reality is that they merely cater to whatever platform is the most popular. They were obviously thinking that the PS3 would do a lot better than it did, which is why they went ahead and announced it for the PS3.

In other news, hoping to see more of Last Remnant, it looks like it may actually be a pretty good little game. Or maybe that's me being hopeful, but still.

WolvenOne

Greendiddykong

Unastheslayer-PSN

If you were to fault them on their slowly decreasing "fun" quality I'd agree with that, I really wasn't very fond of FFXII and am going off the series altogether to be honest, but to slight the graphics of FF is really, really silly.

Unastheslayer-PSN

Waka in Japan

creid

I highly doubt power is important if your installed base is horrible. Most that bought a Xbox was not interested in JRPGs and the japanese base purchased the PS2 for the overwelming support of JRPGs from all developers. Data is more prevalent on dvds than Gamecube's own priority software and now its the same with blu-ray. Same reason Square ditched Nintendo during the N64/PS1 days.

Now what the hell is with that ugly ass Cloud statue???

Keegs79

Darkest Daze

"[...]I don't think it's really in Square's interest to work with both of the weakest systems on the market when part of Square's business plan since the Playstation has been cutting-edge visuals and sound, and willingly taking a hit on that for their console games would be stabbing themselves in the stomach."

Doomstalk

I think Square would have to be pretty dumb, especially now that they have this Fabula Nova Crystallis banner encircling all the FFXIII games, to skip out on making a FNC game for Wii. I would not be surprised if they announce one at TGS this month, even. Square's not dumb. They know a LOT of people hated Crystal Chronicles, so they're going to have to find another way to draw people to the Wii. What better than with a part of the FFXIII subseries? (Well, maybe an FFVII game, but we'll not talk about that today...)

As for FF14, I think it's way too early to even begin speculating on it, but more likely than not the PS3 will have finally hit its stride by then. I think the best way to characterize Square over the next few years is that they'll be splitting their resources between PS3 and Wii, with the occasional 360 game trickling out if The Last Remnant ends up doing well.

Archaotic

FF 13 has videos, screen shots and even commercials in Japan for ONLY the PS3. In summary, FF 13 on the Wii is impossible.

Fetus_God_of_Love

Lol! I think every FF fan's head will roll! Or they'll at least perform sepuku.

Laxe

ShiroRX

Not that it looks as good as a 360 game (even a 360 game running in SD) technically, but it's not too far off; add in the art design and you're there.

The controls? They basically work, I guess, no real problems. Apparently this is an impressive achievement, but I didn't play any of the apparently-shitty FPSs that graced the system up to now. :) RE4 controls also basically worked, though (differently), so.

Analogue joysticks for FPS are dead as far as I'm concerned, this is much better. Not quite sure why FPS control is relevant to a discussion about Square Enix RPGs but hey, it came up...

As for FF13, obviously it's way too late to make that for Wii. They could consider a sidestory, though (to add to the 378 already announced for various platforms) even if it releases a few years later. And I think 'mouse click' controls would add an awful lot to RPGs in terms of ease of play, even if they don't change anything fundamental.

In the event that the Wii/PS3 sales gap is still as enormous percentage-wise by the time they start work on FF14, I could easily imagine that being a Wii exclusive, regardless of Square's liking for teh pretty (Wii can run cutscenes, too). However, I don't think there is any chance that the PS3 situation will remain that bad.

quen

That was the first thing I said. People misconstrued the rest of my comment without taking that into context. "The console that best suited their own needs" need not be the most powerful system on the market.

Archaotic

Doomstalk

Archaotic

You could play 10 or 12 for pocket change.

Astrofox

"...I don't think it's really in Square's interest to work with both of the weakest systems on the market when part of Square's business plan since the Playstation has been cutting-edge visuals and sound..."

"But they're not going to forego their natural drive to make games that excel graphically as well."

I think it's those quotes that are confusing people given the history of the Xbox as the most powerful system of the last generation. If anything, the reason why gamers don't have a problem believing that Square will release FF games on other platforms is that they have never been particularly loyal to any company. They make games for whatever platform will make them the most amount of money.

Tepoz

DarkNight_DS

Archaotic

DouglasQuaid

Archaotic

But I certainly don't consider it something that makes up for the first two games' shortcomings (over-exploration, unhelpful maps, bosses that require constant Morph Ball usage), problems that all (with the exception of the map, apparently) persist into Corruption without any sign of retreating.

Not to mention I just don't really like very many FPS games anyway, so I just don't feel any reason to go out of my way and pay full price for a game that I know I won't enjoy, and probably won't even beat. It's my money, and I'm speaking with my wallet.

Archaotic

To be honest, I haven't played any FF after IX, and there's no way I'm going to spend 500 bucks on a PS3 just to play FFXIII, no matter how impressive the graphics are.
But if it would come out for the Wii, I'd buy it.

KiyuKo

The Wii is PERFECT for RPG controls.

Fnor

You really consider IR pointing a pointless 'waggle' add-on? I can understand people loving the realism of the visuals in new 360 and PS3 shooters. Hell I can even get behind the people who point out the amazing physics that those machines push. But I will NEVER understand the attachment to dual analog controls. They are clunky and entirely unintuitive. Wiimote controls in MP3 are lightyears, and i mean that, lightyears ahead of dual analog. And a good portion of naysaying gaming media has even admitted it.

ajay42

As for S-E's offering, between Ring of Fates and A2 there's enough to get me excited.

Agies

And sure, the audience is there, which is why Square is making Wii games. But they're not going to forego their natural drive to make games that excel graphically as well. Square's not going to cancel their frontline PS3 titles and downgrade to the Wii when they've put this much work into them already. Maybe next time.

Archaotic

DarkNight_DS

And honestly, I really think that better writing and storytelling is what Final Fantasy needs to survive, not shoehorned waggle controls and simplistic themes like so many Wii games seem to share these days.

@Doomstalk:
I certainly can't disagree there. The XBOX had a better set of chips in it than the PS2. But as I said before, Square was making the best with what fit them, not that the PS2 was the most powerful console out there. Sorry for the hazy logic.

Archaotic

Lethardicus

Yea...I wonder how long it'll last...all they have in common with past FF titles...is the name.

Maybe an up and comming developer will create a new franchise and become the "new" square.

I was hoping the creators of blue dragon and lost odyssey would do this...but not many liked blue dragon.(i haven't played it...but a few scores weren't steller.)

Vecha

Tell me about it, the latest FFs have been lacking a harmony & balance (if you know what I mean?). Its really tipping to either side right now, besides I think its due to that only very few people who have roots in the original FF team remain at SE.

I geuss without the original team the ff franchise has sort of run wild and become heavily influenced by things that DIDNT consist of original FF material. :(

Rukusa

Yea...I haven't felt good about a FF game since 9...but thats just me

Vecha

umm honor? Loyalty? since when did square have this?

They left ninty first...remember?

Besides...it doesn't matter.

if its on the wii, psp, ps3, ps2, 360, ds...it'll still be a good game...hopefully..

Vecha

Fnor

Jun581 won't give you tree fiddy!!

Gumbydunzeeto

Rukusa

Doomstalk

@Fetus_God_of_Love: The same was said about DQ9

@Archaotic: You make no sense. The PS2 was the weakest system last gen. Your logic is flawed. Also explain why you'd swear off a system because it was getting a FF game.

To anyone else: I didn't say it would happen, so don't attack me. I just asked what would happen if it did?

DarkNight_DS

krln99

Anyway, I agree the SE kinda dropped the ball here, again. Anyone else getting a little worried that about this happening?

GumbyX

Kyle81

SE promised a playable demo by E3. Where is it? Delayed as per SE usual.

Shiloa

Square wouldn't have worked with Microsoft then because, well, they didn't (and probably still don't) like them very much, and the GameCube wouldn't have fit them either because of low disc space. Every Square game would be three to four discs on the Cube, whereas one or two PS2 DVDs could fit all they needed, y'know? It was more or less a marriage of convenience, making the best-looking games for the console that best suited their own needs.

Archaotic

ConstyXIV

ConstyXIV

Fetus_God_of_Love

Nullzero

And honestly, I don't think it's really in Square's interest to work with both of the weakest systems on the market when part of Square's business plan since the Playstation has been cutting-edge visuals and sound, and willingly taking a hit on that for their console games would be stabbing themselves in the stomach.

I mean, the DS, alright, I can see why the DS is their primary handheld platform, but the games they're making on PSP are pretty big too. But to abandon the PS3 outright and swap to Wii would be pretty silly of them, don't you think?

Archaotic

Kyle81

DarkNight_DS

Chiriko57

zany_ninja