<![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING - Kotaku Comments]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING - Kotaku Comments]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> @FUNKYJ, OZ or the USA will NEVER win a World Cup.

rainofwalrus

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> @Huckleberry:

Yea, I wonder it Italy's dives will be more over the top than other teams...

SnowLeopard

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> Diving? NoooOOOoo
I hope the computer doesn't use it like a common move. That would seriously be annoying. I might need to build a bulletproof glass shield around my TV, since the controller will be a flying projectile if I keep losing to diving.

k3nji

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> @triplehelix: Sorry to burst your bubble, but Australia will win the World Cup before the Yanks.

We just need to get Guus back from the Russian mafia.

FunkyJ

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> @FOFFITY
"When you're at the level of teams like Brazil, the Argies and anyone in Europe, then you can start to be taken seriously."
anyone in Europe, eh? are you including Liechtenstein, Malta, Austria, Albania, Slovenia, Switzerland, Ireland, Norway and such? because I'm pretty sure the US is better than all those teams. :)

metz

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> rabid english footy fans are incredibly threatened by the accelerating US MNT.

granted, it will be 2022, 2018 if we are lucky, before we have a solid shot at winning a WC, but there isn't a single team on the planet, that is consistently qualifying, that is increasing their quality at the pace that the US is.

and of course beckham didn't turn a rubbish team into a championship team on his own. there are 11 players on the pitch, and no single one can turn a turd into a pile of gold.

triplehelix

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> @r1nce: Damn right. Thats the only game of Association Football I've ever watched and after that, I don't think I'll ever watch another.

Personally I'd like to see a kerb-stomp option added to combat diving. "whats that you whiny little Italian man? You've hurt your ankle?" *CRUNCH* "There, -now- you've got something to complain about.

Jackablade

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> As lame as diving is in soccer, it is pretty much a staple of it. It makes the game a lot more realistic, which is kinda sad since I do so loathe seeing players dive in real life. I just hope it doesn't actually work in your favor very often.

PurpleMonkey

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> Deliberately not reading the comments before I post.


Luke, this is just left over aggression from Italy's #1 diving scum-bag Grosso doing us out of the World Cup with his gold-medal performance.


I've still got the tears of rage from that night, and one day I fully intend to jam them down that filthy cheating asshole's throat.

r1nce

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> Wow. For one thing, I'm impressed that Konami actually have the balls to include such a feature. It's now a real simulation. On the other? It's basically cheating, something that is going to bring up bad memories for Australians, Frenchmen and anyone else...

DarthHomer

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> henry only did it because Portugal team are such divers..

as they say..
"If you can't beat them, join them"

on topic though, Love it.. hope they dont remove this feature.. roll on Oct.

HOVA

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> So finally, it's a real simulation.

I assume the American players will get their skulls busted open, be a man and walk to the sidelines, get stitched up, and come back out to play. Just like in real life?

Will next year feature injuries from soccer riots?

Will your coach get murdered when you lose to an arch-rival.

I can only hope they continue to bring realism to the sport.

yonderTheGreat

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> @DouglasQuaid:

Did somebody say 'Zinedine'?

justhesh

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> I hear that Italy has a rating of 100 on the diving statistic! Incredible!

Huckleberry

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> If they are going to include cheating why not include, some barging and pushing, and just further on from that maybe a little fisticuffs. You might end up with 10 men but at least you got the satisfaction of giving the cheater who conned the ref a bloody nose.

DouglasQuaid

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> So this will just add to the realism, as players everywhere will go on destructive (possibly) drunken rampages when their team loses due to a bad call? Interesting.

Purple Dave

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> They used to have this in FIFA 1999, and it was actually a lot of fun. It was fairly easy to get a defender a red card with a dive. As long as they make the odds very much against the person diving, I think this could work out OK.

thewisestfool

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> @rainofwalrus:
USA v Portugal???
And you guys keep bringing that up...
We imploded pre WC... there are many stories involving prostitutes (I guess everyone loves an asian girl) in the team's hotel during the preparation.
Many guys who played didn't deserve to be in the team, and we gave you 30 min of an head start.
That game means as much as winning the Gold Cup, and that's between -1 and 1!


BTW, I kinda like the feature, FIFA had it, I've played many tournaments with friends where every game was decided with a last minute penalty!

Seinrien

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> Horrible pic...
That dive there cost us (Portugal) the final at the 2006 World Cup...

Damn you, you french people you, and your penalties that cost us finals...

...that's all I got...

Seinrien

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> Now THAT'S realistic soccer! It's notorious for that kind of thing in real life.

justhesh

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> where's the option to challenge with spikes up?

tetracycloide

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> They used to have this FIFA 1999, and it was actually a lot of fun. It was fairly easy to get a defender a red card with a dive. As long as they make the odds very much against the person diving, I think this could work out OK.

thewisestfool

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> @Foffity:

let's see...

1. easily baited
2. national bias
3. argues over which sport is better

that means ... YOU'RE 12 YEARS OLD! If you are older, just pretend you're 12. It's less embarassing for you.

FlapjacksAreTasty

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> @scndmg: I'm with you on that. Gotta be optional!

Pixelantes Anonymous

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> Yep, looking at the back of my EA World Cup 98 CD - Q for Dive (also when on defense, Q for intentional foul)

bruzie

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> @JOHNZIM

One thinks Drogba should be on there too.

Now if only they could make it so Lampard can only score using a deflection and sky the rest... it will be perfect!

Peetfeet

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> Aha! I finally understand why RONALDO is on the cover of Pro Evo 2008!

Johnzim

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> .

@MOKONA, no doubt. HOLD LT + RB + X for Catsup Packet Dive! I can't wait to play English blokes, you think they hate Argentina now? oh man, this is gonna be World Cup 1998 all over again!


I'm gonna learn actual Argentina goal-celebrations and dance around my living room after any/all unfair, lategame, PK-cheese!

rainofwalrus

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> @gils0n: In that case, why does your 'real' football primarily involve throwing the ball??

Foffity

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> You could always buy a real football game like Madden. ;-)

gils0n

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> world tour soccer has this feature to dive too...but i dint find it too useful....but it might be fun to use i guess.

Dante18

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> @rainofwalrus:
Yeah, I really hope there's a "diving stat" for each player and some are better at it than others, like the italians or argentinians (let the flame war begin).
All in all, as it was said, if it's done properly, I guess it could be a fun feature. (If I was Konami, I would put the option to turn it off, especially in Online modes, just in case people abuse it).

What it needs too is a proper replay to show your opponent how you fooled the ref.

Mokona

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> CONCACAF?? lol. the only other half decent team in the competition is Mexico. When you're at the level of teams like Brazil, the Argies and anyone in Europe, then you can start to be taken seriously. Is it any surprise that most of your best players play in the EPL (the best league in the world) when your domestic teams are such a joke.
Even David 'I'm completely over-paid and over-rated' Beckham can't stop LA Galaxy losing 'cos all the rest of the team is terrible.

Foffity

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> What they should do is get rid of it in real life! All it takes is a video referee or 2 and about 10 seconds of game time. That would certainly put a stop to it. Then they can get rid of it in future versions of PES.

sauvage

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> @rainofwalrus:
The Gold Cup?!? That's damning with faint praise.

hockalees

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> @Foffity:
"Americans shouldn't comment on football until you get any good at it."

It's been 38 years since England has been "good at it", mate.

hockalees

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> Now this is a soccer sim!!!

rich8606

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> .

love it or hate it, this means Argentina will now be unstoppable!

rainofwalrus

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> .

@FOFFITY
at ease, tiger. usa v portugal ring any bells? how about CONCACAF Gold Cup 2007 Champions? how does that make you feel?


SHAKE... and bake!

rainofwalrus

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> I think its just being included to create talking points in multiplayer - I personally cant wait to piss my mates off with an 89th minute dodgy decision.

Foffity

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> I like how they're bringing
in this kind of Splinter Cell/
Thiefish element where instead
of the enemy guards spotting
you it's the refs. I say cheat
away as long as the refs
aren't looking.







Sullyville

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> What next, you get to duke it out controlling RTS style your whole team if you disagree with the call?

Dr.Chocobo

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> its bad enough it happens in real life. i dont like this one bit.

Dirkcee

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> ITS FOOTBALL NOT SOCCER.
as long as the diving is handled well (i.e. Depends on the position of the ref, if you dont get the penalty you get a card etc.)

Americans shouldn't comment on football until you get any good at it.

Foffity

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> This brings back a certain USA cup match that ended badly.

Can't wait til the simulation soccer games pick this up and have 'frequency of dives' slider.

To you nya sayers, it is as much of soccer as Drugs (steroids) are to baseball.

Welcomed? No, but does it happen and everyone knows about it? Saddly yah

huginn

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> @adamcole: Yeah, and the graphics of Pelé's Soccer were so good, you could literally see what brand of shoes the players were wearing. To this day, I think it's the most advanced simulation of the sport. True story.

L_K_M

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> There was diving in Fifa 98:Road to the World Cup and Fifa:World Cup 98 as well. Sucked then but was always funny to run straight at the keeper and take a dive! Usually nothing was given but now and then the keeper got a straight red.
Hopefully it'll be better in PES than FIFA's attempt at it.

NunianVonFuch

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> Pretending to be fouled in a football videogame? That's taking simulation too far. Here's a tipp to the devs: You don't have to simulate the crappy parts of the sport, you know?

This doesn't make the game better, it just makes it more realistic. Not the same thing.

I don't want to die in an FPS after taking one shot. I don't want to fly out of the course and be out of the race just because I break a bit too late. I don't want a game of Baseball to actually last hours. There is such a thing as too realistic.

L_K_M

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> @Witzbold: YEAH! They should add "Yo sista is a ****" insults and headbutting for the complete SIM experience!

Atilla_the_Nun

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> @thesillyone: You serious. Fifa sucks balls. PES is a real football game, diving is a part of football so should be included to make the games better. Still this feature was annouced months ago

jip100

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> My former flatmate accuses me of diving in every game as it is, so god knows what it'll be like now!

*sigh*

Zoidy

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> Even Pele's Soccer for the 2600 had diving.


...at least I think that's what those three squares were doing. :)

Adam In Texas

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> Thats nothing, until they put the Zidane head attack, I wont be impressed. ;D

Witzbold

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> @4thVariety:
I assume it'll be factored in the AI if that's the case.

CommentatorHatman

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> I wonder if the national teams of Italy and England will reflect their different attitude towards this when the computer is playing against you.

4thVariety

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> how appropriate choosing thierry henry as the posterboy for diving- hehe

someone must be a spurs or england fan on your staff...

spursusa

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> ISS '98 and 2000 on the N64 both had diving and it was implemented in a way that was realistic.

For example, if a player with the ball was running past an opponent player and the defender did a standing tackle and tapped me, your player stumbled and you could press all the 'c-buttons' and the player continued the stumble motion into a fall. Which is realistic and not really a dive.. Why should one struggle to continue going forwards in an awkward way when you can have a free-kick or penalty?

Aslong as it is implemented in a way that is realistic like this, rather than just random falling over seen in Fifa '98 RTWC and others, then you have a realistic new component to an already successful game.

Its alot better than the 'punch button' in Viva Football on PSone.

Chelmdog

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> no problem as long as you can turn it off.

also if you want realism. make sure the ref makes bad decisions ALL THE TIME. also have the "fans" demolish whatever city the game is being played in.

Latonone

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> I used to play a footy game that featured diving, I forget the name but it was always funny to dive when there was absolutely nobody anywhere near you as the ref would quite often give a foul anyway =)

As for Pro Evo 8, I think it will be fun to have diving. I would also like spitting, swearing and a selection of hand gestures.

Diving WILL suck online, but Pro Evo and FIFA have never been much cop online - they are best played with mates that are located within punching distance.

IronsUK

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> i think there was one Fifa that had a diving movement too...
( 97, 98...i dont remember right now)

btw, for me this was one of the few things that PES was lacking, now im happy :)

sinny

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> Kotaku are a bit late on this one, its been known for about 2 months ;-). But there's no need to worry Luke, it's very hard to dive successfully (ie. get decisions to go your way after pulling one off). You have to make sure the ref has a constricted view to have any chance (other players in the way of his eyeline).

I personally cannot wait to try this out (in This is Football I'll never forget getting a mates players sent off in the box - straight red), good times.

Theoris

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> That's so awsome. Sure to get some of that "emotional response" developers are lusting for.

elevenoverzero

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> Can't shake the fact that they made a deal with the guys who manufacture gamepads. I've broken about 3 of those playing the current version, 2 alone in frustration over Adriano's insane uberpowered abilities.

With this thing, I'm not sure I should be allowed to play unsupervised, or my TV might suffer.

LarzJG

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> ISS 98 on the N64 had diving as well.

rogue_pigeon

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> Diving is part of the game, if you want an accurate simulation you've gotta have that, I suppose. I'm interested in seeing how touchy it is and how easy it is to pull off successfully in gameplay.

Nobuyuki

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> thats why you should get fifa.. plus PES reminds me of some cheaply made pirated soccer game i used to play when i visited mexico.

thesillyone

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> What a horrible idea. Diving/embellishing should never be a feature in any sports game.

Kavatar

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> @Prophane33: This is Soccer. Yeh i remember that.

satanyoka

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> The game was Fever Pitch Soccer (aka Head-On Soccer). It was released on the SNES and Jaguar if I remember correctly. I loved that game and thought the diving was a fun touch. I think this will be a good edition to the PES series.

Morpork

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> They probably added the feature so that the game will appeal more to Italian football fans.

Marlor

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> Oh, this is great.
Fifa 98 also had this 'feature' if I'm not mistaken.


Gneiss

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> I think the game was Fifa 95 were you could hold all shoulder buttons and dive. I think its a good idea, especially when your playing with your friends and it enrages them ahaha....

WildCard

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> I just hope you can turn this feature off in the options menu. Although, it could be quite a fun gimmick for a few matches.

scndmg

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> One of the Sony Soccer (or football in the UK) games had diving in it. It worked the same way that it's being described in Pro Evo 8. I think it's a stupid feature to have too. However, it IS a simulation of real life and if there is one thing Winning Eleven/Pro Evo is good at it's simulation. Compared to FIFA's arcadey style. I will of course be picking up both this year.

Prophane33

]]> <![CDATA[Pro Evo 2008 To Feature CHEATING]]> Great picture!

Daft

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