keyransolo

brodie123

mcderek3000

SK

ghibli303

Koneesha

TheIrishNinja

It doesnt need a great story or single player to be GOTY... GOTY is made of something thats NEW overall to the people.

Rukusa

Unastheslayer-PSN

I'm not disappointed with my ps3 at all, and i don't think it matters what they said. They could have said they loved everyone and would pass out rainbows to all the children of the world and people would still be bashing the ps3. People just need something to complain about to make themselves feel important. "I have a 360, to hell with ps3. I have a wii, screw 360 and ps3, i have a ps3, screw wii and 360." In the end, all consoles have their strengths and weaknesses. Ps3 will have great games, 360 will have great games, wii will have great games. It just doesn't matter... honestly get a job and you can have all 3 for less than a good gaming computer.

Mpalm

Unastheslayer-PSN

Yes, i meant for the price. Like you said, for a 6-7 hour experience, i could part with about 30 dollars... but 60? I'll see what other reviews say but i get the feeling that the gameplay isn't going to score well in most of them. I doubt the game will take much more than the time stated by IGN UK... IGN US didn't give a time but they gave lasting appeal a 5 out of 10 because they said it was over so quickly. I'm definitely going to give it a rental because it's a gorgeous game... but i'd rather save my money for all the other games that will hopefully not flop... like Ratchet, Halo 3, Mass Effect, Uncharted etc. etc. Maybe if wii starts coming out with some stuff i like i'll buy another one. I'll make sure the money i stored for heavenly goes to good use... poor heavenly, you were so young :(

Mpalm

Are we to believe that people will be falling over themselves to buy a PS3 just for an online toy that has no real point beyond running around and jumping on things?

inphanta

What is the aim of the game?

That's the question. I was there looking at the demo and the consequent GDC stuff. Creating levels looked like great fun. Playing the levels was actually quite dull. I think we were told to collect sponges but as no-one seemedto be doing that and there seemed to be no consequences to NOT collecting them I'm completely stumped as to what the aim of the game is.

Took this off my list a while ago as a result of that. Like spores before this. I don't see what the actual game behind it is or more importantly where the lasting appeal will come from.

penhalion

It's not at all clear how broad Dewy's level editor will be, though. LBP looks like it has a pretty interesting character editor, though I've never particularly cared what character I'm using to jump from this to that. I've never heard anything about the actual level editor though.

This game does seem like it could be a huge disappointment, as much as I like platformers: look at Spore, for example. I could see this being a great showpiece for the PS3, like a Mii channel that's fun for parties, but I don't know if a lot of people will find it fun. The platformer genre has been kind of dead on Playstation ever since Jak and Daxter became a GTA clone. I don't see this game causing a resurgence without lots of blowing up of stuff. (And introducing such an element would completely destroy the game.)

sxp151, the happy-headed nose

It's not going to be a phenomenal action game, but it should still be good regardless. I've seen enough of it and played enough of it to know what I'm getting into, though. :p

Maldron

I *really* have to disagree there. (IMO) A lot of people got pissed at Sony about the price point, then rationalized "not wanting" the console ("Sony are dicks, anyway... murmur murmur").

Sony was arrogant all through the PS2 years (just ask any PS2 developer), but they did fine.

FlapjacksAreTasty

Green_sauce

TheIrishNinja

Maldron

LBP is one of those games that need more then to be lost in the holiday Sony wheel...

Mixiboi

@Maxine_T: yeah, its gonna hinge on the physics.
to answer your question, id say "no", but then, this kinda experience relies heavily on the kind of online experience im hoping sony's ready for by then. Offline or multiplayer, this'd be (in my mind) like Mario Paint: nothing more or less than what you can get you & your friends to make of it.
To me, the strength comes in designing levels/enemies/obstacles and playing through the top 10 or so each month, rating them and such. I see your point on casual gaming clearly being on the rise, but even so, i think that's the dimension this game's bringing that makes it stand out so...if this was on the PS2, no, i dont think itdve been nearly as big a deal.

TheIrishNinja

Laser_iCE

Yeah, the presentation and graphics scores were stellar... and apparently the story is pretty well done too. However, i don't think i could justify buying a game that i can beat in one sitting, other than having to get up and pee.

@TheIrishNinja:

Here's from IGN UK review:
"Throw in the decision to completely remove sword fighting again in chapter three (of six, one of which is simply a boss fight), replaced by some over-egged archery, then cripple it later still with some pretty but soulless silliness, and it adds up to maybe three to four hours of decent combat in a game which takes a rather embarrassing, and distinctly un-epic, six or seven hours to beat."

I cried a little :( I mean even if the gameplay was a bit repetitive, to have the game last 6 hours? I guess all the money went to the voice acting and graphics.

Mpalm

Because, truly, this is a casual game. It's one where you could just go in for a few minutes, fuck around, have fun, then shut down and go do something else. It doesn't require you to devote 20-30 hours, or have massive skillz, in order to have fun. Simple rules that work in a logical way, where the player is given all the power to do pretty much anything they want. That's a modern casual game.

Funny how what would be one of the biggest sellers for the "hardest of hardcore" systems on the market, is a pure sandbox game. it's not the predesigned campaign that anyone is interested in, it's going in and fucking around in an almost Sims way.

SilverStar95

@Mpalm: wait, who said Heavenly Sword was 6-7 hours? holy shit, that's short. that's like Ico short.

TheIrishNinja

@Unastheslayer-PSN: Play Asia is still around though, unless you know something I don't.

Maldron

teh_bear

stop2

Dennen

Unastheslayer-PSN

Don't speak of heavenly sword... i'm sad it got hit so hard by IGN's bad rating stick. I'm definitely going to rent it but geeze, a 5-6 hour game... why would they do such a thing.

Anyway, little big planet seems like it's going to be a ton of fun with endless possibilities. Glad it's getting good reviews so far, and better acting is obviously a huge plus. Love the top hat :D

Mpalm

Maldron

Unastheslayer-PSN

Unfortunately, it's not really worth $500-$600 alone.

MR. FAP☆FAP!

I think Ratchet and Uncharted will not let anybody down as far as promises this year on the PS3, so I at least have them to look forward to.

I'd hit you up on the PSN but I'm not sure what of that is your name. My name is mine, as universally as I can make it.

Maldron

Unastheslayer-PSN

White Knight Story, on the other hand, will be awesome, I loved DQ8 even though I hate random battles and turn based combat and the DC series was really cool, if kind of flawed

Unastheslayer-PSN

@Unastheslayer-PSN: for it to have any chance at GOTY it better develop a deep, engrossing single-player mode too, with a spectacular storyline.

aelfin

I don't think Heavenly Sword will have overall engaging gameplay, but I want it for the cinematic graphics and story all the same. Lair I gave up on because of all that slow-motion nonsense, which I crusade against. I think Sony shot themselves in the foot on both with all the self-promotion, advertising decent titles as system-sellers just leads to... well, what's happening, really.

Maldron

The games with the most hype (Lair and Heavenly Sword) do have a degree of uncertainty about them (I think we're all aware of the IGN heavenly Sword review and the EGM lair review) but with Uncharted and Ratchet & Clank there's no need to worry. Insomniac and Naughty Dog have never made a bad game between them so why would they start now?

Looking into 2008, Level 5 (White Knight Story) have an excellent track record (DQ8, Rogue Galaxy, the Dark Cloud series), Gran Turismo is the original driving simulator and MGS4 is, well, MGS. These games all come from developers you can trust. Littlebigplanet is an unknown, but if there's player created content it's sure to have some merit. Killzone 2 you say? I'm intrigued but not yet convinced. I like cover systems, and it does look amazing but I played the first game and found it very repetitive. Still lots of convincing to be done there

Ultimately, you can probably tell that I'm not too worried; even if Heavenly Sword and Lair are both massive failures, there are still plenty of games from reputable developers which will be good. If I'm wrong about Uncharted and R&C future then I will never post on Kotaku again.

@Hayabusa: Enemies have been confirmed in the game, and you can set them with basic behavioral patterns, such as "move left constantly" or "go up and down". Dunno about health though.

Unastheslayer-PSN

Ether02

krokus

as702ecs

Hayabusa

As for this game, I don't like the track record for first and second party games for the PS3... I've noticed a lot of hype for any Sony-made game be in huge abundance regardless of quality of the actual game. I'm not saying this is going to fizzle upon release like previous PS3 exclusives have (read: folksoul's release in japan; over 9 weeks only 36,798 units have been sold), but I have a hard time trusting a system where every game gets an incredible amount of hype before any information concerning the game is released at all. Media Molecule, as a company, has never made a game before, from what I can tell.

Then again, I haven't watched any of the trailers for the game, partly because I have horrible memories of sucking at 2d platformers as a kid, and partly because I have "ps3 hype fatigue" at this point.

Akin

You also say "sometimes a review copy is better than the finished game"; really? You seem a pretty straight up sorta guy, judging from previous comments, but I can't help but think this is bullshit. I read reviews on several sites: IGN, Gamespot, 1up on occasion and I also buy PSM3 on a monthly basis. Not once have I ever seen any evidence of what you are saying here. If you can provide an example of this then that's fine but it's not something I've encountered before. Also, games generally get better the further along they get in development, not worse. Considering the fact that the levels I have seen played, either by journos or devs, have already looked like fun I sincerely doubt that this game won't live up to my expectations.

Unastheslayer-PSN

I'm referring to a problem that comes up from time to time. Press demos and release candidates ( aka RCs) aren't exactly the same beast that ships to stores ( RTM Release To Manufacturer ). Sometimes a 'review copy' if you like is better than the finished game, or an issue like Bioshock's DRM comes up that wasn't even part of the review copy. Games like all software are far from static, but at some point you have to ship. My point was don't project too much on a game based on a demo. I'm sure LBP will turn out fine, but there is always a factor of uncertainty until it's in users' hands.

Mongoosekun

InsidiousTuna

Can't be a level without a chance of falling!

remanance

Maldron

With that dry info on emotes and 'acting', I guess there'll be some gratuitous internet-humor?
Guess LBP will not only be game and extreme level editor, but yet another outlet for Machinima..

ah, So 'LittleBigPlanet' lives up to it's name now with the 'Little Prince' type interface.. makes sense..

Nymo

Unastheslayer-PSN

Maldron

scotty999

In the words of Howard Dean, "Yeaaaaaaaahughhuh !!!!"

BoffrO

Still waiting for the ones that will look like balls and dicks

jive238

No one said anything bad about Bioshock until the RTM issues came to light either, so don't get so over hyped on it -- or any other game for that matter. You never know the issues that can be introduced from RC1 to RTM. That said you come to 'trust' some development houses like you trust your toothpaste brand not to sneak in powdered chili seeds. Not the kind of surprise you want rubbing into your gums. I think that's the reason people are so pissed with Bioshock.

Not that I think this specific game will have such issues. It's still unknown to a degree. I'll get LBP at some point, but I'm not expecting anything more than a coop platformer with user content. The reason is the game will only be as fun as the other people playing with you. This is one of those games an asshole with a headset can ruin. It's true you'll more likely only play this with friends, but part of the fun is finding new 'game' friends like back during the hay days of Quake. One of the reasons Quake2 was so great was the LMCTF mod had a great international community. You never knew that would happen before it shipped. ^^

Mongoosekun

Kyle4rmCa

Ilia Chentsov

Rukusa

damn you >:(.

I still dont think Sony is truely aware of how much of an impact this game has made on the gaming community, plus they probably dont know that they might've bought the publishing rights to one the -perhaps- potentially huge-st game made.

Rukusa

EDGE

yup... i agree!!! i also agree with boxelder... and with jip100... and with samaridino too!

thisissami

Unastheslayer-PSN

InsidiousTuna

Tom Clancy's Samuraidino

looks good, but not GOTY material.

presto117

So far

Metal gear Solid 4
Final Fantasy 13
Gran Turismo 5
Killzone 2
LittleBigPlanet
Socom 4

You have 6 potential system sellers already

Anyway LBP is one of those games everyone needs to play. it will be epic. I can predict a 10/10 from Edge all ready

jip100

InsidiousTuna

Mikatro

Kyle4rmCa

teh_bear

It's like a virus. A very fun, well animated, well textured virus.

PapaBear434

Boxelder

I think it looks pretty good -- I wonder what they're doing to achieve that effect.

cello

Unastheslayer-PSN

Unastheslayer-PSN

Ecks

Please, no tea-bagging. That's all I ask.

InsidiousTuna

ErinIsADrunk

MoeB

NoMorePuppies

jeffram

d4t4

Tom Clancy's Samuraidino

Any word on the beta/demo supposedly out this fall?

InsidiousTuna