<![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze - Kotaku Comments]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze - Kotaku Comments]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> I am very excited about Haze. I really truly feel like if anyone can give the FPS genre the jumpstart it so desperately needs, it's Doak et al. But I truly have no idea, at this point, what exactly it is they're going to be doing to that end.

I mean, they've dropped hints that the things Haze does that'll make it Matter will be more story and character related, harder things to quantify in tech specs and screenshots. And heaven knows if a game has to give me a character, it could do better than to insult my intelligence by telling me I'm now Jan Templar or Marcus Feenix. But then again, this sounds like it could all end in tears.

Homage

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> I'm personally looking forward to this, due to the four player co-op and the drug use making gameplay interesting, plenty of time to polish and modify the game though. I hope to think this game will suprise us all.

BurningRevenge

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> I actually really enjoyed the Prey single player campaign...but then I generally play FPS's mostly for Immersive storylines and atmosphere. The multiplayer isn't as critical for me. If I want multiplayer, I'd rather play something like one of the Battlefields or now Quakewars. Games designed from the ground up for team play with objectives etc are much more interesting to me then death match or CTF tacked onto FPS #5.

VendettaUF

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> @Atomicvege:

I'm glad at least one other person knew what I was talking about. Most people today are oblivious to older games. If it wasn't on the NES in the 80s most kids won't know it.

I must say that I also don't really enjoy the FPS genre too much. Besides Doom 3, Halo, Rainbow Six Vegas and Resistance Fall of Man I can't really stand the genre. However I am still looking forward to Haze. Although I think Bioshock is going to be the best game this year regardless of genre...its simply sublime on every level.

Bones_Jackson

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> The biggest barrier for me is that the title is PS3 exclusive. I mean no disrespect to the folks at Free Radical, but I am not going to spend $600 just to play Haze. I rarely purchase a console/peripheral just to play one game alone.


As for the "one-trick-pony" statement...

From a design stand-point, most games are "one-trick ponies." A lot of ideas are thrown around while prototyping a game. Some ideas work, some don't, but eventually you'll stumble upon an idea that sets the game apart from similar titles. So then you'll polish the hell out of it, market it (to a consumer or a publisher,) and then use whatever money you have left to flesh out the other ideas and make the game fun to play.

Some may take this as an inflammatory statement, but I consider Bioshock to be a "one-trick pony." There is nothing about the game mechanics that sets it apart from other titles. Technology-wise, it's not much different from any other Unreal engine 3 game. The game's selling point, it's one trick, is atmosphere. Without atmosphere you wouldn't care about the story. You'd hardly even notice Rapture was underwater; Bioshock would just be another post-apocalyptic FPS with magic powers tacked on for good measure.

Kain-Xavier

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> Maybe a Mantel soldier, finding his stash pickpocketed, could have a set time to find a spare haze pack before they found themselves temporarily incapacitated, you know, for a helpless living corpse humping. Because that's what we mean by evolving the FPS genre

Good idea but then you would have to balance that out with the rebels. Perhaps the balance issues are exactly why there are no withdrawal effects.

Wolfkin

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> @Striderhayasa:

[sarcasm]
Wow, it's good to see you're supporting original IP instead of sticking to safe, incremental, formulaic updates in the form of sequels and franchises with heavy marketing!

I really hope I never see you making one of those "yawn - sequel! I want original!" type posts.
[/sarcasm]

Give me a game that tries to add something new over one that doesn't any day of the week. I've got much more respect for something/someone that tries and fails than something/someone that never tried at all.

And with that said, I will remain more open-minded towards Haze than any other of the games you happen to mention in your original post.

Bumpmap

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> im excited by Haze, im not gonna lie. I think the angle is cool and the idea of four-player co-op through the whole campaign mode is going to be a real treat for student houses/etc and graphically i think it looks great. Innovation is, of course, important but at the end of the day - fun is the key to gaming, its the whole point, its why we do it. And im yet to come up against a Free Radical game that wasnt fun to play.


Not only have free radical proved themselves in the past (as pointed out by several people above) in their FPS construction, but also, through Second Sight, their story telling ability. I think before the game gets a proper play test people should be a little slower to criticise. hey, this is Dave Doak we're talking about here, people!!! the dude is IN goldeneye the game :| this makes him almost as kewl as Samuel L. Jackson...and thats pretty damn kewl

Gypsie

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> I wish more developers would follow the footsteps of Media Molecule (the dev who's making LittleBigPlanet) by thinking something brand new.

HobbaHobba

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> Halo, Haze, Crysis, Killzone, COD4, Medals of Honors, Rainbow 6, they are all the same to me: gun in lower right screen, you are in first person view, occasionally you see the left hand doing misc stuff like throwing a bomb or something.

Shit, all the stories or whatnot they are trying to throw at you, they are all the same.

God, I hate FPS. They are all the same and way too many of them these days. This genre should just die die die ;)

HobbaHobba

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> @Bones_Jackson: My hat off to you sir for that comparison. Man, Syndicate... that takes me back. Awesome game. Bullfrog certainly had some hits on their hands.

Haze sounds like it could be interesting, but as not a big FPS fan, i only play one every now and then, and it's got to hook me. Fear did it 2 years ago, Prey did it earlier this year and now i have Bioshock.

It'd be worth a look at least. :)

Atomicvege

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> I've read I-don't-know-how-many articles on Haze, and I still can't get excited for it. The only thing that the game really has going for it is Nectar, but at its base level, Nectar doesn't sound any different than the way Samus will be able to power herself up with Phazon boosts in MP3.

That, and Haze is yet another FPS game with guys running around in power-armor and a "behind the visor" view. I respect Free Radical as a developer, but their concept for Haze just seems, well...hazy.

Lezard

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> @cal9745:

Thanks for that bit of data, but I'd just like to point out that Forge has been around since the days of Marathon.

Xirolad

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> @cal9745: That would be a different story, yes. I applaud them for finding a way to bring it all to the consoles, I just see these aspects of it being heralded as revolutionary in and of themselves, not in their inclusion on a console game. I fear a future where people download Garry's mod and piss on it as being "a halo 3 rip-off." Where four-player FPS co-op is a "nod to Halo 3's success." I don't see them trying to pin screenshots on being Halo's, but I've read crazier stuff out there on the internet. Knee-jerk fear based on prior experience, forgive me if I came off too harshly.

@The Intangible Fact: I wasn't aware pointing out flaws in an argument was being a prick, I'll keep that in mind the next time somebody says something that isn't completely on the mark. As far as the "You're Welcome" comment on the end goes, it may have a little bit of a bite to it, but I figured after saying relatively opposite things to everything else he said, I should end on a similar note. It's still technically polite, anyway.

Plus that Gamer's Fuel is vile - Neither here nor there. But if you're going to simultaneously praise a game for doing things well that've been done elsewhere before ((Halo)) and piss on a game that does something good that's been done elsewhere before ((Metroid Prime)) you should expect to be called out as a fanboy by somebody. It's one of those crazy disparities that marks irrational thinking.

Maldron

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> "I think Haze is, unfortunately, that sort of one-trick pony FPS that fails to explore its Big New Idea to a level that makes it rise from the pack."


How the hell can anyone justify a statement like that before even playing any of the game?

I can see there are very few people left who have any faith left in Free Radical. I'm proud to one of them. I've never been let down by any of their games.

Magnet

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> Can't Not?

The Intangible Fact

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> @The Intangible Fact:

Keep it up, Jack. You'll be banned again in no time.
You just can't NOT take petty little pot shots at Nintendo, can you?

MR. FAP☆FAP!

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> @Maldron: New in console games.

cal9745

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> @Maldron:

Why be such a prick?

The Intangible Fact

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> @cal9745: The first one you admit to not being original, so I'll let that go.

The second one you cite a comparable and time-tested example, so I'll assume you can see the lack of new there.

Screenshots have been in PC FPS games forever, and people have been taking videos of their gameplay forever as well - integrating it into the software is nice, but nothing new will come of it.

4-player Co-op has been around since AT LEAST Doom for FPS games, big levels aren't insomuch "new" as "more," collecting a score as you play is a staple of arcade games since their inception.

Graphics are nice, but they aren't new, and they're already being surpassed or met by other upcoming FPS titles. Unreal Tournament 3 comes to mind, but even games like Bioshock are already out and already amazing - it's not like Halo is doing it poorly, but being on-par with the line set for the current generation of games can't be construed as pushing the envelope. And yes, people use too much Bloom. It's a travesty.

Psychiatrists are medical doctors who have taken a few more years to get a Psychology degree, they are the only Psychology professionals allowed to prescribe medicine. I'd think you mean Psychologists, as a medical degree is hardly necessary to gather what really amounts to focus group data, and focus groups aren't all that new either. Just because this one had a focus groups with shrinks doesn't make it too special in my mind, and I find it hard to believe that no other title in history has ever bothered to consult with psychological experts on how to better their game.

You're welcome.

Maldron

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> @cal9745:

Nice post thanks. You made me more excited for Halo. Post more news if you can.

The Intangible Fact

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> @cal9745: I forgot to add that although all of this is new to Halo, about 50% of it is new in the FPS genre. Still, it is a huge amount of new things.

cal9745

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> For everybody saying Halo 3 will bring nothing new to the table:

New Weapons and Vehicles (okay, not that original)
-Equipment not seen before in a multiplayer console game


Forge (Map editor with the likes of Gary's Mod)
-Not only create levels modifications, play gametypes like 2 people playing as the object "creators", with each creator feeding his team ammo and vehicles, while blocking off the other teams escapes and stealing their placed objects.


Saved Objects:
-Save videos you can manipulate with different camera angles, etc. Upload to Bungie.net. Send to friends.
-Take screenshots of a game. Use them as a your desktop wallpaper. Again send to friends.
-Create a gametype. Send to friends, upload to bungie.net with a chance to have it in a new matchmaking playlist
-Create a level modification with forge. Send to a friend.


Ridiculously big single player battles:
-One battle has more levels than an entire level of halo 1
-4 player co-op
-Metagame, where you collect points and compete for a high score in single player. You can even have 2 characters compete for a higher score against another 2 players in a co op game.


Now for graphics:
[media.1up.com]
[media.1up.com]
[media.1up.com]

*All images directly taken from the in game film editor. No photo doctoring at all.

Watch some new high quality videos (ign has alright ones) to see the top notch animations, lighting, particle effects, and more. And BLOOM!! (joking)


Multiplayer and single player balance:
-Psychiatrists were actually hired to work for bungie to observe people playing games, discover their fun level on certain parts of the game, and ask for suggestions that might improve the balance


Thank you.

cal9745

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> I don't know if this has been mentioned ( I didn't read through all the posts), but Haze was already done like 15 years ago.

Yea, there was a little PC game called Syndicate which is pretty much the same thing as Haze. Instead of a FPS though, Syndicate was a RTS style game. You used drugs to alter your cybernectic "agents". You worked for a corporation trying to take over the world from other corporations. The only thing missing is the narrative storyline.

Syndicate kicked all sorts of ass. So I am at least moderately interested in Haze. I doubt it will live up to the classic that is Syndicate, but it should be an interesting re-imagining.

Bones_Jackson

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> Mark Wilson shouldn't be playing only one mode of a game and then calling it a one trick pony.

Gagamus

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> "See, I have this theory. It's not really a theory, really, and it's not my original idea. But every year we see people excited about some new FPS. We hear its features-the way it's doing things differently. And we're generally sold (anyone remember the Prey media blitz?) "

Replace Prey with Bioshock and you get another example...

JimmyHACK

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> @The Intangible Fact: dude I don't give a rat's ass what the reviewers give it but it's good to see your time machine is still working to bring us back the goods. Some of these same clowns that review the games we play don't have any skill. I witnessed that myself first hand. I've been a Metroid fan since the beginning. Metroid Prime 3 is already bought and paid for. I never liked Halo and as far as multiplay goes...legions can play Halo all they want, more power to them I'll be playing Unreal Tournament 3 online. Actually, I'd play UT 2004 before I play Halo. That game is just not my cup of tea. Can we get back on topic now and save your comments for actual fanboys?

Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> @Striderhayasa:

I respect your comments. I like it when people don't back down and stand up for what they believe.

The Intangible Fact

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> @The Intangible Fact: oh and for the record, I criticize Nintendo more than anybody but instead of using ridiculous dumb ass arguments that make no sense I try to bring something constructive to the table. Metroid Prime is one of the series that Nintendo made for the fans at the constant request of the fans in the face of its failure in Japan. They get much love for doing that.
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Free Radical announced a new Timesplitters as well as Haze. Did they mention a map editor with TS? Or is Haze getting a map editor? I would consider it if it had a robust map editor.

Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> @Striderhayasa:

Ok...so ignore "The Game that Sold the Most Preorders" for Metroid "The Game that Plays Catch Up with the Big Boys"

Metroid will get a 7.8-8.5
Halo will get 8.8 -9.7.

The Intangible Fact

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> @The Intangible Fact: really? take a 2D game and make it into 3D and keep the same elements and feel of the original material along with the gameplay and atmosphere? yeah...not that impressive. Cause Castlevania translated into 3D worked great....oh wait! Street Fighter was awesome in 3D too...hmmm then again...
Sonic....yeaaaah, Sonic was definitely top tier in 3D in the "so bad it's good" column ....wow not even worthy of that...

Okay...I guess you're right. I was mistaken. So I have no choice but to...

Ignore Halo AND Haze and play Metroid Prime 3 and Unreal Tournament this fall. WOOT!

Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> @baberg:

Mario = formula
Bioshock = beer

I love hating on Nintendo for one reason....the fanboy reactions.

I think developers should hype up their game. It would be stupid not to. Haze would share the same fate as Ico & Okami if it is good :)

The Intangible Fact

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> I'm a ps3 owner and I'm not even jumping for joy about haze. Same game...different story...yawn.

nxp3

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> @The Intangible Fact: You really need to get over your Nintendo hate. It's not healthy.

Haze has always been a "meh" title for me. Years of experience have shown that anytime a developer overhypes a game it ends up horrible. And the developers of Haze have been hyping it to no end.

Plus it has the unfortunate side-effect of being released after Halo 3 and Bioshock which itself has already raised the level of polish expected in FPSes. Although, since Bioshock and Halo are console exclusives to the 360, maybe Haze will have a good reception this winter on the PS3.

baberg

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> I do remember the Prey blitz, and being pretty disappointed at the result, especially since it was announced initially back in my earlier years (mid 90's or something?) and had quite a bit of hype even then about the portal system.

Haze looks OK. I haven't really gotten a feel for it because of all the Bioshock/COD4 love recently.

But like you say, if the whole Nectar thing is the only real difference, it's not going to sell me on the concept.

splines

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> This seems like the a game that's being forced to be popular (the whole 360/PC yes, no, maybe-so seemed to grab a lot of people's attention.) I'm sure PS3 owners will pick this up so they have something to actually play...but I can't see this being anything more than that...

jihadjoe343

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> @Runna:

Yes they could. A mature Mario fighting a dark/crazy Bowser with mothafuckin machine guns would rock.

The Intangible Fact

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> I just my first drink of the Mountain Dew Halo 3 Game Fuel and it taste fucking goood just like the game will.

Also Metroid wasn't that great. It was a FPS with adventure elements. Other games did this along time ago. Just because its Nintendo it doesn't mean its "revolutionary or near perfect". Gosh!

The Intangible Fact

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> truthfully lost in the pack!

@DannoHung: I got a suggestion for you! Since you guys love Halo so much and every think it is weak suace then I wonder if bungie could make a better mario game?

Runna

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> I'd argue Gears Of War was a one trick pony, but what a trick!

FunkyJ

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> ... what is the point of this "story"? Can we expect to get updates on how other fps franchises are "one trick ponies" or once you achieve halo and cod status you are rendered exempt from pointless buzz kill "news" blurbs?

IchimaruGin

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> "But every year we see people excited about some new FPS. We hear its features-the way it's doing things differently. And we're generally sold (anyone remember the Prey media blitz?)"

Remember the Bioshock media blitz?

Kotaku fails.

SolidFro

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> Its the timesplitter's guys. Who really cares about such little niggling facts. The game looks badass and I know the multiplayer will be fun as well. It's not the world's most revolutionary game but at least it is based on a new IP.

MrSatan

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> Those are my predictions.

TylerOwnsYou

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> Halo 3 9.6 Haze 9.4

TylerOwnsYou

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> Thank you, Mark, for being as jaded as I am.

boopadoo

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> God DAMNIT I am tired of people criticizing Halo.

NO IT DOESN'T DO ANYTHING INNOVATIVE.

The title is "Combat Evolved" Not revolutionized, not massively different, not wildly innovative!

THERE ARE NO CLAIMS OF ANYTHING EXCEPT ITERATION ON ESTABLISHED IDEAS! Does it deliver? On iteration of established ideas? YES! AND STUNNINGLY!

There *were* a few shitty sections of level design in the previous two games. No game is flawless throughout, but it was one of the most FUN FPSes in years! Probably since Half-Life! And it was on a larger scale AND it established a universe that is compelling to even mild fans. And it had excellently balanced multiplayer.

Not every game is going to introduce a brand new idea to the genre, but it takes the one that does it really well to make you remember it and help other game makers figure out how to make it work all the time.

DannoHung

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> @Dark_Cheetah: that's hilarious because I remember playing the original Unreal Tournament and me and a few mates were laughing at how you could dual wield the Enforcers and kill a room full of rocket launcher and Frak Cannon WhoreNoobs.

Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> @TylerOwnsYou: Personally, I think Halo is overrated too. I was never a fan of it. I tried to get into it but just couldn't.
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Free Radical are good developers but I haven't seen anything in HAze that makes me say "ooooo, gotta have it." Timesplitters rocked because of the custom maps and scenarios you could make. I played that for months because me and a friend made maps there were better than the maps that shipped with the game. Timesplitters I'd buy if it still includes a map editor that's as good or better than the last gen editor.
For the record, at least Metroid Prime 1 and 2 were truly different than the typical FPS and one of the greatest 2D to 3D translations ever made. Now if you said "another Zelda" or "another mario" I'm with you there to an extent but Metroid....try again.

Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> @TylerOwnsYou: Although I don't agree that a ride makes a game suddenly overrated. I do think Halo has been overrated since it came out. Nothing in that game was original for the time. The graphics were pretty...other than that most of the things in it that people were amazed about were originally from Marathon. A friend of mine at the time let me read two old sci fi stories from the 70's that were pretty much the exact same story. Besides the fact that there were already FPS's out that had far more in the way of game mechanics such as dual wielding and what not....which seemed amazing to people when Halo 2 came out(?).

Dark_Cheetah

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> After watching the Haze videos it looks subpar in every way.

Nexus6

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> @Kirbytheslayer: Don't forget Goldeneye.

That game was kinda ok no?

PlayingKarrde

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> @TOWER_JUNKIE:

Thats actually pretty cool. :)

TylerOwnsYou

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> @Kirbytheslayer: I was never a TimeSplitters fan. It didn't hold my interest for more than two levels. I'm not a huge fan of their only franchise so far, so I'm not holding my breath for the second. Maybe it will end up being mindless fun, but until I get a demo or rental copy, I don't see myself laying down $60 for it.

Custom Reality

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> @Maldron: And a 17 year-old game made by another developer somehow makes Haze bad?

Kirbytheslayer: In-Kirby XMB

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> @TylerOwnsYou:
That ferris wheel was only for Leipzig, you know. There was an HDTV and an Xbox 360 in each cart so people could play Halo 3 on the ride.

TOWER_JUNKIE

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> @tylerownsyou
whoa...calm down kid....firstly, judging by the public beta, halo3 is gonna be, at worst, 'a good game'
secondly, they have'nt tried to make anything stupidly revolutionary with the game, theyre just making a game thats gonna be good, continue on a brilliant story, and sell well...IMO...

[flame sheild]

Naif

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> I remember the linear speedbump that was Prey.

Maldron

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> Some of the people that created Perfect Dark + new FPS on PS3 = Me excited! So there.

Parabolee

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> @Custom Reality:

Im far from a fanboy i have Nintendo Wii and a PS3 and will be getting a Xbox 360 for christmas .So you are telling me that the Halo franchise isn't overrated. they have a damn halo ride for christ sake c'mon dude.

TylerOwnsYou

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> The game does look great. I give Free Radical credit for trying. If Bioshock, Crysis, Turok, wasn't around I would buy it, but for now ITS A BLOCKBUSTER NIGHT with Haze!

The Intangible Fact

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> I've been saying pretty much this type of thing for a few years now. Once the hype dies on a new FPS. You invariably get to see it without the rose tinted glasses. At that stage you notice the flaws (of which some are huge). In the single player FPS's there is usually some totally inconsistent element that ruins the atmostphere. In multiplayer it's usually weapon imbalance which highlights how little people actually balanced stuff. These days they get the poor paying public to playtest it for them under the guise of being the lucky few on a beta (I know we openly discuss stuff like that at developer conferences and backstage at shows).

penhalion

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> @Custom Reality: Wait? You think the guys who made Timesplitters can't make a good game? Are you crazy?

Kirbytheslayer: In-Kirby XMB

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> W/e im still getting this game, it looks great.

mnml10387

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> I'm pretty much ignoring this game. From what I've heard and seen of it, I just can't find myself to care enough to get excited about it. They make a huge a deal about being able to take you're opponents weapon. OO, cool! But then they show that one move over...and over...and over again! There's more to not be impressed by, but I'm lazy at the moment and don't have the patience to type it all out.

With all the other games coming out, this one really isn't worth my time to pay attention to.

Atheist Jew

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> @The Intangible Fact: I'd be right behind you saying...."Wow...another Metroid" my friend.

Dark_Cheetah

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> @TylerOwnsYou: We have a fanboy in the house. =D

You need to stop playing video games if they make you so emotional over someone else's opinion, kid. =D

Custom Reality

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> @Dark_Cheetah:

If I said "Wow, another FPS. original" in a Metroid thread I would be cussed at and called an idiot for saying something so bad against Nintendo. Don't be such a prik!

The Intangible Fact

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> Haze has potential, it's from Free Radical.

silentbob343

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> @Custom Reality:


Wtf makes you think that halo 3 is gonna be any better? Its been the same damn game since halo 2 and will be the same shit in halo 3.

TylerOwnsYou

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> I knew this game was going to be mediocre right from the get-go.

TOWER_JUNKIE

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> @Hap: What is this game about??? Mantel? Rebels??? Are the mantel like insects or something??? Is this coming to 360? If not, i don't care.

thresixty

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> Wow, another FPS. original.

Dark_Cheetah

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> when you put it that way, the game sounds really, really lame. Makes it seem like they dropped the ball already. Oh well, at least we have things like COD4, Halo 3, Crysis and Bioshock to keep us happy. I knew Free Radical couldn't pull off a decent game.

Custom Reality

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> Haze isn't on my radar. It's not going to be on my radar. There are entirely too many FPS coming out to the point its becoming maddening. Actually, this has been the case for a long time now. It's "me-too" itis at it's finest. Like I mentioned in the other post, if it's not Metroid, Resistance2, Quake, Unreal Tourny or Half Life....I don't care. An exception may come down the pipeline but as it stands...Haze will get no love from me.

Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.

]]> <![CDATA[Sloppy Seconds - Haze]]> Sounds interesting. Though the "haze?" affect would give me a terrible headache to be honest.

Hap

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