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Really New Metal Gear Solid 4 Screens

Sunjammer — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 04:57:52 MDT

@TheIrishNinja: Fair enough =) This is all my opinion of course. I can see how it's appealing to others.

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TheIrishNinja — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 22:38:18 MDT

@Witzbold: current schedule has me working like 3 days a week, and auto troubles are keeping me here a lot (yeah, that's the ticket...)

@Sunjammer: just...just dont play this game, then. if you really think 2's plot was "written by monkeys", what do you expect from the closure of that title here?

TheIrishNinja

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Mega-Driven — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 22:19:27 MDT

Ok, these are great screens. Really.

My personal wish, and this is for almost every game, is that I could pause the game, and then use a "free" camera to zoom around and check things out in better detail, and compose my own awesome looking screenshots.

C'mon, devs! this is not hard to enable at all! Please!

Mega-Driven

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rich8606 — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 22:17:17 MDT

@شاه: You mean Gider girl? They're all women.

rich8606

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dcdeveloperx — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 21:52:16 MDT

Im a bit dissapointed with the 2007 trailers of mgs4 but considering I liked 1-3 I will hopefully like this one as well.

dcdeveloperx

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tuteja1986 — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 19:37:55 MDT

Watching this movie reminds me some of the bosses from Ninja Gaiden :( .

tuteja1986

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DarkCode — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 19:08:50 MDT

@TheIrishNinja: You never played ZOE2? That game is definately one of my favorites! Enjoy!

DarkCode

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Maldron — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 18:25:39 MDT

@Unastheslayer-PSN: But then you still wouldn't have a dog.

Maldron

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Unastheslayer-PSN — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 18:24:37 MDT

@Maldron: In that case IT'S T-VIRUS TIME! Zombie dogs FTW

Unastheslayer-PSN

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Maldron — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 18:12:49 MDT

@Unastheslayer-PSN: And my dog died a year ago. *Uncomfortable silence*

@Doshu: But I don't know you well enough to get on your case about it. :(

Maldron

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Doshu — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 18:07:19 MDT

@Maldron: @TheIrishNinja: You unbelievable bastard, You haven't played ZOE2? If you thought I beat you up for not having played Okami or Shadow of the Colossus you should know - there's more coming.

Don't worry TheIrishNinja, you're not alone. I haven't played any of those either. ;)

Doshu

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Unastheslayer-PSN — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 18:03:29 MDT

@Maldron: I DON'T HAVE A DOG. *Dramatic music*

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Maldron — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 17:33:35 MDT

@Unastheslayer-PSN: PS - My dog could beat up your dog.

Maldron

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Maldron — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 17:30:36 MDT

@Unastheslayer-PSN: Yeah yeah, charge times blow, whatever.

Maldron

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Unastheslayer-PSN — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 17:28:47 MDT

@Maldron: The Shteve could defeat the vector cannon...
Doubletap forward, R2, hold down, square. Down back triangle, wait, forward, X, Triangle, square, square, square, wait, X, square, square PERFECT. See? The Shteve wins

Unastheslayer-PSN

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00000000 — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 17:20:43 MDT

Freakin' Sweet! Although, kinda creepy. Some of it kinda reminds me of MGSxSilent Hill lite.

00000000

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Maldron — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 17:09:32 MDT

@Unastheslayer-PSN: My fists fly so fast it feels like you're being beat on by an extra half-person.

Gods I miss the Vector Cannon. First time I ever used it it was gorgeous, and it remained gorgeous forever.

I still have a near-record time for beating Zakat. Loved that boss to death. Only reason it isn't a record is because the PAL version had some extra stuff in the mission mode.

Maldron

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Sunjammer — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 17:06:24 MDT

@Witzbold: I don't know BITTER. Disappointed maybe? MGS1 was amazing when it came out, MGS2 wouldve been amazing hadnt it been written by monkeys, and MGS3 was an actual game but so far gone plotwise it was just hilarity all the way through. I just don't know wtf people are praising Kojima for anymore, anyone who actually reads books or watches movies that AREN'T hollywood made knows how low grade this junk is.

It sucks to see the best people in the industry working on pretentious self-referential feedback loops that never seem to fucking end.

I'm not saying all games need to be Kafka or something. I'm saying this guy pretends he has real narrative POWER, but obviously knows he DOESN'T, since his games are so self parodic it all kind of cancels out and becomes a gray mush that's hard to care about.

What do we get? Versus. Over and over. Cool characters doing cool shit for no reason and it never really satisfies.

Sunjammer

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joelface — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 17:06:13 MDT

i equally hate that when developers ask the gamers questions, they just ask all the same old tired questions.

i remember when there was a question-time about home... and i tried to ask an original question, but everyone else was more concerned about asking questions that had already been asked before.. just made the whole thing so much less interesting.

joelface

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Unastheslayer-PSN — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 17:04:40 MDT

@TheIrishNinja: We're not! Well I'm not, but I would be if I had the Tekken online mode. RAGE!

Unastheslayer-PSN

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Witzbold — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 17:01:01 MDT

@Sunjammer: Bitter much?

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Sunjammer — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 16:55:36 MDT

I love how we get excited about stuff like the bosses in this trailer, even though we know, in the end, it boils down to a series of one-offs set to stock "hollywood action scene music" where they follow a rigid pattern and occationally have some weird gimmick to figure out. Also, worst boss design to date. I don't give a flying fuck about any of these "cyber monsters", whereas Sniper Wolf and The End were fascinating as *characters*.

The more elaborate these cutscenes get, the more obvious the fallacies of the gameplay are.
I hope i'm not the only one that laughed at the "raage", the wolf howl and the opening monologue. This stuff is lapsing so hard into self parody it's difficult to take. I'm sure he thinks of the Doc Ock ripoff as a "tribute" or something.

All this said about characters, script and whatnot, MGS3 was easily the best GAME of the series to date (if you leave out the hilarious plot), so maybe this one will actually play as good as it looks. Though i'm prepared to bet money it won't be radically different enough.

Hideo Kojima, a mediocre anime director with hollywood budgets. He should be making more games about sniffing 14 year old girls' panties and grabbing titties. To honor his past.

I hope to dear god this is the last MGS. Let the fucking horse die already while we still have good memories of it.

Sunjammer

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Witzbold — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 16:53:31 MDT

@TheIrishNinja: Jesus mate how do you even have the time to do such feats of gaming marithonisms? (Yes I know thats not a word. :D)

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perfectoon_0901 — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 16:48:26 MDT

has anyone thought that maybe Crying Wolf's legs are cut off? and it is possible for her to change from the wolf stance to a upright walking position. thus, the gun on her back, so when she is not in wolf mode, she can just pull the gun off her back and start shooting.

perfectoon_0901

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TheIrishNinja — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 16:44:54 MDT

@Maldron: but, but i beat okami, colossus, and im beating Ico today...ive been so good! why do people keep hitting me?!

TheIrishNinja

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Unastheslayer-PSN — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 16:37:30 MDT

@Chupakun: Sahem the vs mode was pish, it could have been awesome, but it... it just wasn't

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Tom Clancy's Samuraidino — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 16:37:08 MDT

OH,i just noticed that one of the marionettes that mantis is carrying is a little Psycho Mantis puppet.
i love the cool little things like that.

Tom Clancy's Samuraidino

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Chupakun — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 16:24:55 MDT

Oh god, I love ZOE 2. That was one helluva game. It's sort of like a culmination of everything that makes make anime so titillating and exciting.

Chupakun

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Unastheslayer-PSN — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 16:23:36 MDT

@Unastheslayer-PSN: Also, when I was mentioning camera problems I am convinced that every 3d combat game has these problems

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Unastheslayer-PSN — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 16:22:01 MDT

@PapaBear434: I know, that gun is fucking EPIC. You know that big battle just before you get zero shift? Good timing+Vector Cannon=A corridor of the battlefield devoid of any enemies. Good fucking times. As for the other subweapons, I just finished replaying the game and I actually used the vast majority of them. I used the geyser and the gauntlet in the narrow canyons of Vascillia, then I upgraded to the wisp and then it was pretty much just the wisp and the gauntlet until I got the homing missiles and decoy. Oh, and I used the Mummyhead for health. Zero shift is SO awesome. Zero shift+close range burst attack=Win. Doing a lot of that at the moment. Weird

Unastheslayer-PSN

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Maldron — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 16:17:40 MDT

@TheIrishNinja: You unbelievable bastard, You haven't played ZOE2? If you thought I beat you up for not having played Okami or Shadow of the Colossus you should know - there's more coming.

Maldron

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PapaBear434 — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 16:02:43 MDT

@Unastheslayer-PSN:

The camera issue is more or less solved once you get the Zero Shift ability.

I got that ability, I don't remember using much else. Maybe the traction whip, just because it was fun to grab an enemy and toss him into a wall.

Oh, and the Vector Cannon. Because, well, it's the fucking VECTOR CANNON. Nothing like blowing a small hole in the world.

PapaBear434

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FightingChance — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 16:01:21 MDT

@HenryTownshend: It's possible the women aren't physically whole; at least not Crying Wolf. I'm getting the vibe that they're war orphans - topical enough for Kojima.

FightingChance

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Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live. — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:59:32 MDT

@3xch4ng3: Welcome to the PS3 brigade. I gripped my for free from my 360 loving father that got the 20GB PS3 for $350. Awesome indeed. Yes...I eagerly await the MGS goodness in 2008 but to be quite honest. I'm glad it's not coming out this year. I have far too much to play this year as is...

on topic, the images are frightingly awesome...

Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.

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Unastheslayer-PSN — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:58:46 MDT

@TheIrishNinja: You'll love it mate. Fast paced mech combat, smart enemies, sweet weapons and two AWESOME set pieces. It's what all Gundam games should be. Only big problem is the camera, but even that's not much worse than DMC or Ninja Gaiden

Unastheslayer-PSN

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mikeluisortega — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:58:22 MDT

@3xch4ng3: Good deal, some fool sold me his for $250 sans control, which I have from the last PS3 I bought (and sold)
Used ps3 prices are dropping to chump change, it's a crime to pass up MGO, I'll rent MGS4, still skeptical and expecting a retelling of a retold story.

mikeluisortega

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PapaBear434 — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:56:25 MDT

@TheIrishNinja:

Trust me, you will LOVE it. Especially after you unlock Naked Jehuty (You'll understand when you beat the game.)

PapaBear434

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3xch4ng3 — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:52:05 MDT

I couldn't turn down a Used 60GB PS3 for $400, so looking like I'm getting on the MGS4 Hype-Train with my newly purchased PS3.

Only drawback is all the good games for PS3 I already own on 360 besides Resistance :(

But, 2008 will be nice.

3xch4ng3

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HenryTownshend — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:48:59 MDT

How do you squeeze a woman into that Crrying Wolf mech? I mean, her legs would have to be broken...

Beautiful and tortured... I hope I don't have to rough 'em up to badly. That said, how 'bout a testosterone injection as far as the enemies are concerned... Vamp and Liquid Ocelot and... that's it?

HenryTownshend

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Heiae — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:47:29 MDT

Of course they look similar to ZOE designs.. Yoji Shinkawa does most of the work for both series.

And do I ever like these new gals.

I love Shinkawa's designs..

Heiae

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Alalu — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:46:10 MDT

@sora000111: I think "Octopus" actually makes reference to Decoy Octopus, also an enemy from MGS, but not exactly a "boss" as you don't fight him.

About the names, I also see references to bosses from MGS3:

Raging = The Fury
Screaming = The Pain
Laughing = The Joy
Crying = The Sorrow

Alalu

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Bloo — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:43:06 MDT

The other MGS games had plenty of color in them. Why does this one have to be what is practically black and white? Oh well, still looking forward to it - greatly!

Bloo

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GFX-187 — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:42:37 MDT

@sora000111: correction Decoy Octopus was in MGS1 (SPOILER he was impersonating darpa chief)

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Kingdom Oblivion — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:36:53 MDT

Has anyone noticed anything about the names and appearances of these bosses? Laughing Octopus, Raging Raven, Howling Wolf and Screaming Mantis? Mantis , Wolf and raven appeared in MGS 1 right? And is Octopus anything to do with Solidus? Could Liquid Ocelot have brought them back but in mecha style?

Kingdom Oblivion

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vagrantscholar — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:36:06 MDT

@vindicated: The designs are definitely stylized in the vein of ZOE. Decoy Octopus was ill. Died too quick a death in MGS1. The new Octopus enemy design is fresh. Makes me hungry for some takoyaki.

vagrantscholar

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GFX-187 — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:29:26 MDT

@jackal888: Why would you mount a rifle and keep its butstock, handgrip, scope and have it on its side sounds..... RETARDED. thats not the kojima style.

GFX-187

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HenryTownshend — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:27:03 MDT

@rikkestoban:

Maybe I need to adjust the color profile on my display. Screens look greenish-gray to me. :|

HenryTownshend

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Eliasoz — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:25:41 MDT

@jun581:

They did. Something towards that effect was mentioned on Kotaku. Rumble on PS3 is a rumor no more. It's fact.

Eliasoz

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Eru — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:25:25 MDT

Doctor Octopus, anyone?

Eru

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vindicated — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:22:45 MDT

Kojima - staring blindly through his sunglasses, "the theme of this game shall be...dirt."

vindicated

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rikkestoban — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:22:43 MDT

Man! The last time I saw this much brown, it was in the bottom of my rude joke removed.

rikkestoban

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jackal888 — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:19:59 MDT

@GFX-187: Who is to say it is not a mounted gun? I think it is unlikely Fortune would be Crying Wolf take a look at the actresses that will play these characters.

jackal888

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TheIrishNinja — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:17:46 MDT

@vindicated: funny, ZOE 2 should be on its way here from gamefly right now, if its half of what papabear says it is, should be a blast.

@jackal888: i was gonna say arthritis, but were both kinda right.

TheIrishNinja

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FightingChance — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:15:34 MDT

Great pictures.

After watching the video of these guys in action, I have to say the local insurgents are either incredibly brave or really dense; as soon as I see a huge black mechanical tiger push over a bulldozer, I am gone. Seriously, throwing down my gun and booking it. Bye!

FightingChance

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FP Belias — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:14:33 MDT

*drools* Let 2008 come now... please...

FP Belias

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GFX-187 — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:14:18 MDT

Really kool,

/drools over screen shots and creates a new wallpaper.

you can even make out the fortune style railgun on crying wolf's back. hmm i wonder if fortune never really died and now shes back crying as usually. also how would wolf carry that unless she has attachable arms like the bad guy in spyhard lol.

GFX-187

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The Vampire Raziel — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:12:53 MDT

Bad Ass. Loving the Screenshots. I seriously wish someone would ask about Gameplay and Chars and Secrets more than the damn 360 and Rumble crap myself.

The Vampire Raziel

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Stevedroid — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:11:31 MDT

@Datalock:
Wouldn't want you to be disappointed.

Real is brown, apparently.
[www.vgcats.com]

Stevedroid

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Jun581 won't give you tree fiddy!! — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:09:14 MDT

@TheIrishNinja: i didn't think about that. new wallpaper indeed

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arcvr4 — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:02:09 MDT

@Alalu: thanks!

arcvr4

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jackal888 — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:59:25 MDT

These Bosses are awesome. With Solid Snake being such a bad ass and having so much skill in battle these Bosses are the only ones who can kill him. Oh yeah except FOXDIE, and a bad back.

jackal888

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vindicated — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:58:12 MDT

These remind me very heavily of Zone of Enders. The "Mech Styling."

vindicated

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Datalock — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:57:54 MDT

game color bitching starting in 3,2,1....

Datalock

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TheIrishNinja — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:57:36 MDT

new PS3 wallpaper material, right here.
2008, you shall be kind to me.

TheIrishNinja

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HenryTownshend — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:57:04 MDT

@Guizzy:

Begone, Xbot! I'm packin' pyrethrins...

*readies can of bug spray*

HenryTownshend

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Alalu — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:54:29 MDT

@arcvr4: It looks like The Sorrow from Snake Eater, when he is wearing his raincoat.

Alalu

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Candlejack — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:50:36 MDT

@HenryTownshend: Ok then (:

Candlejack

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Guizzy — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:50:28 MDT

Yes, MGS4 will have rumble... On the 360!

ZIIIIING!

Guizzy

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arcvr4 — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:47:21 MDT

can anyone tell me who that second doll is of with the new mantis character? I recognized Psycho Mantis, but dunno who the other is (didn't play Snake Eater, is it a character from that?)

arcvr4

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HenryTownshend — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:46:07 MDT

@شاه:

Glider gal...

I'm gonna use one of these as the wallpaper on my Triple. :)

HenryTownshend

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Moonshadow101 — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:44:28 MDT

The puppet master one is badass.

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btrick — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:43:59 MDT

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE

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Gamemaster — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:41:40 MDT

I've got to say Mantis looks awesome, but the tentacle one looks pretty crappy (IMO).

Gamemaster

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Allenby — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:41:21 MDT

Tokyo Game Show, believe.

Allenby

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Candlejack — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:39:47 MDT

I especially like the glider guy.

Candlejack

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Jun581 won't give you tree fiddy!! — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:37:41 MDT

2008 cannot come fast enough!!!
also, i'm surprised i haven't anything about the rumored rumble. I could've sworn sony would make a big announcement with regards to that at the convention.

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Kokuryukai — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:37:16 MDT

Sick!!!

Kokuryukai