My wallet will die come the end of this year. :(

SomeRandomGuy

Kyuzu

PainfulPriapism

SHADOSofNin

Yeah and nintendo loves the consumers and don't care about money at all. Soon they'll be standing on rooftops dropping free games for everyone. Seriously, i think they don't even accept money at nintendo... they make sculptures with it, and tribal masks which they wear around the office.

Mpalm

All they are is a bunch of greedy rich dont give a shit motherfuckers.

CaptBirdseye

What audience is that? the old, fat, and overweight audience?

Ixero

Johnny Pathetic

-

I bought a PS1 because of Ridge Racer as I'm sure tons others did.

Cellien

Wii games that have sold more than one million copies, as of July 25, 2007. (From Wikipedia)

Wii Sports (8.32 million) (packaged with system in all regions except Japan)

Wii Play (4.49 million)

The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (3.61 million)

Wario Ware: Smooth Moves (1.82 million)

Super Paper Mario (1.25 million)

Mario Party 8 (1.03 million)

Rayman Raving Rabbids (1 million)

Red Steel (1 million)

stop2

Collapse The Control

afroabdul

Tepoz

It is true, neither Sony nor Microsoft is competing with Wii right now. They are both in a slug-fest with each other. There's no way either can compete with the Wii until the prices of their main systems are within the Wii's $250 price point. This is where consumers buy consoles. It doesn't matter if you have the most bad-ass mama-jamma machine out there if it's too expensive for the average consumer.

In a couple of years when both the PS3 and 360 are around $250. The Wii can only go down so far in price before it's competing with the DS. You will then see Nintendo sweat ONLY IF they haven't helped 3rd party developers make those AAA games for the Wii. Right now, this is Nintendo's weakness. Not HD (less than 30% of households with 720P as standard) or Blu-Ray/HD-DVD (sales of one DVD title outperforms both combined). If the games are there and the price is right, the general consumer/gamer will buy.

Tepoz

Big issue is the cost of the system. Last-gen people spent about 200 on average for the system. This gen it's going to be 400. (prices will go down). You also have depreciation to deal with, so people will want these systems to last longer, since they're more expensive. I think the Wii will have about a 4-5 yr cycle, X360 a 6-7 yr cycle, and PS3 a 7-8yr cycle (10 if you count the wind-down time, which the PS2 is in now)

Those above numbers are guesses. The Wii might last longer if it evolves, and people really don't care about graphics. One advantage the Wii has is cheaper dev costs (high-def gaming might price itself downscale- which is a reason I think the current consoles will last longer- the pace of technology will accelerate, but the cost will equally, and become cost-ineffective)

arstal

Hooray for liberals...

Keep the politics off this board please, only game hate here.

x999x

What that a poke at ps3 not having any good games? Because you listed some pretty bad games...

Anyway, i'm constantly posting the same stuff about my thoughts on wii and it's success... and i'm kind of tired of it. Price does matter, not needing an HDTV does matter, the details of consumers does matter (it's easy for parents to buy their kids a wii when it's so inexpensive and doesn't have many games where you saw people in half with a buzzsaw/gun thing). All i know is that twilight princess was WAY too easy, which didn't hold my interest, and if they are catering more and more towards casual gamers, i hope they don't bust out the easy stick and make games a walk in the park. If they can keep the games fun and make them at least somewhat challenging, possibly grab some good 3rd party titles, maybe some quirky RPGs and such, i will gladly repurchase it... it's cheaper than going out to eat these days anyway.

Mpalm

HAHAHA!!! luke makes me laugh :D

classic

Termisk8er

ビッグ ボス

deaftly

*reads comment* yawn. *goes back to playing dead rising, oblivion, gears of war, Crackdown, GRAW, Bioshock demo, Forza 2, Viva Pinata, and Lost Planet.

presto117

Lets break this down, shall we?

"Next gen, to them, means digital distribution (XBLA/PSN)"

Digital distribution like the Wii VC? Funny you mention LIVE arcade and PSN, but avoid the VC which has more games released digitally than arcade and PSN COMBINED.

"it means proper online gaming"

Strikers online mode is fantastic. I can't wait for battalion wars, fifa, guitar hero, madden 08, geometry wars galaxies, nitrobike, and a bunch of other fully online (proper?) enabled titles coming in the next couple months. Nintendo may be late to the online party and friends codes are a pain but don't think online isn't coming big time to the Wii this year. And it's free.

"it means not worrying about memory cards"

What? Have you ever seen a core 360? Its the only next gen console that requires memory cards. The Wii doesn't need any memory cards so I have not idea what this even means. The 360 core system is the problem in this regard, especially since it only supports expensive proprietary memory from MS.

"it means consoles that have the processing power to last for a long time, perhaps even 10 years"

Now, this is must marketing spin that you've swallowed. The 360 will certainly have a replacement in 5-6 years, as will the PS3 almost certainly. Maybe you want to be stuck with the same console in 10 years, but I don't. 5 is plenty thanks. In fact, look at the PS2, arguably the greatest console ever made. It had a great run of 6-7 years, and STILL people bitched about the 1 year delay of the PS3. Gamers do NOT want to wait 10 years for an update. The 10 year nonsense is a myth propogated by companies whose consoles are not selling well in years 1 and 2.

subnet6

hvnlysoldr

There is precisely one demographic that seems to be more attracted to the 360/PS3, and that is the 14-25 year old male demographic. Luckily for Microsoft and Sony, that happens to be the most steady and profitable demographic in this industry by a wide margin, so I'm sure they're quite safe.

LittleBallOfHate

Well, someone had to beat me to it.

Though I think it's cute that Nintendo has taken the attitude that they have. Its like saying the big people won't listen to me, so I'm just gonna go over here and do my own thing. While I will agree that there are some people who'd never dream of owning a 360 over a Wii or a PS3 over a 360 or what have you, there are definitely legions of kids out there that are still rabidly waiting for the Wii that won't even look at a Sony or Microsoft product, and their parents are nothing but happy to oblige them.

AndrewG009

RIIIDGE RACER!

Terinije

Hilarious.

cadekun

MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

TheRemedy

unless the "non-gamers" take the market....

Vecha

lol...

Vecha

sectionz

Sorry.

sadkermit - soon to be banned for standing up to the ummm nazi.

Papa Midnight

oohhh...lol I forgot about the "motion control"....

I was playing fear one day on my ps3...then switched to Resistance and totally forgot I had to shake the control to stop myself from still being on fire...

Vecha

NoMorePuppies

Gamemaster

Maybe the next 'wii' will be just as good as the ps3.

blu-ray with motion control!..lol

Vecha

I *think*(its 4am over here and me brain isn't working) what I'm trying to say is engaging in the way of story...

I don't play Mario party and puzzle games to sit back and actually think about it after I play the game.

I don't do this either with Halo, madden, etc.

I would with Bioshock, mass effect, Kotor, ...you know what? I give up!..lol

...long live the casual and hardcore market..

Vecha

It's odd that you'd make that comparison, though, Vecha. It's actually the PS3/360 games that are violent, action packed, have huge budgets, and specifically target the 12-27 year old male age bracket, just like action movies, a la Blade or 300 or what have you. Wii/DS games are low budget, are usually not violent, and often specifically try to engage your brain -- Brain Age or the vast number of Puzzle games being good examples. That's much more like "indie" films, if anything. Again, it's kind of hard to compare, say, "Bioshock" to indie films and "Mario Party 8" to big budget films when Bioshock actually has somewhere on the order of 12x the budget, so I don't think that's a fair comparison at all :x

I think it's more like Dungeons and Dragons (hardcore) vs. Monopoly or Life (casual). Neither is really more cerebral than the other, it's just a matter of taste. And it's also important to note that in that field, D&D has managed to maintain a steady, very dedicated fanbase.

LittleBallOfHate

I think it's more like Dungeons and Dragons (hardcore) vs. Monopoly or Life (casual). Neither is really more cerebral than the other, it's just a matter of taste. And it's also important to note that in that field, D&D has managed to maintain a steady, very dedicated fanbase.

LittleBallOfHate

And saying Wii doesn't have -any- games with depth or story or action? What about Zelda and Red Steel? A pair of launch games. And then Godfather: Blackhand Edition, which is considered as the defining version of the game, even beyond the X360 version.

Sure, Wii has a ton of shovelware that isn't even worth picking up. But, it's not like that wasn't the case with PS1, when it became the console of choice, even after being so sluggish and nearly written off as being the newcomer. It's what happens when something disrupts the status quo.

Developers are busy trying to find some way to create new material for Wii, while shoveling other, low budget things in to try to make some quick money. But to say that it'll wind up being entirely low budget garbage is really stretching it. A lot of developers rely strongly on their brand name, to make a quick buck on shovelware. If the developer isn't known and they make a garbage title, they won't be around long enough to make another one. If a good company just makes garbage long enough, people won't trust them when they try to make a real game(look at what happened with Sega.. so much garbage, they destroyed their own followers).

And you want games that are really next-gen on Wii? Sure, how about marble games? Or Mercury Meltdown? The games require the motion controls to be able to do their thing right. And from there, we get Dewy's Adventure. And then there's also Elebits, another game that couldn't be done with a standard control setup.

Godfather: blackhand? The entire reason why the Wii version is the defining version is because of the motion controls.. the pair of motion controls, rather. PS3 couldn't do the same game any justice, by comparison.

Or, maybe even shooters? After we really get some hands-on time with Metroid Prime 3, which is simply a second-generation shooter with wiimote controls(Red Steel and CoD3 were the first generation), we may find that Wii is even better suited for shooter games than X360 or PS3.

Now wouldn't that just piss the industry off? Focusing so much on all the potential of PS3 and X360 to make their games prettier, when Wii turns out to be able to simply make the games play -better-. But, time will tell on that matter. We may need to wait until a 3rd or even 4th generation motion control/pointer shooter game, before the controls are more or less perfected.

Though, personally, something I'd love to see the revival of, is the mech genre. Wii would be able to do a game like Armored Core the justice it deserves, by being able to move and aim easily and without having to confuse your fingers over which buttons change weapons and which ones change the angle you're firing at.

SilverStar95

Oh we can!....I have a wii, ps3 and 360.

Love em all.

I mean...I love a good casual hollywood movie every now and then that doesn't require much thought...something I can just enjoy...but If I didn't have my indie/independent films...i'd go nuts.

Guess you could use the same metaphore with a game like Halo vs. psychonauts(halo hollywood...psychonauts indie)

Vecha

LittleBallOfHate

No. I'm not suggesting that MS and Sony care about me or anyone and neither does ninty. And I'm also not suggesting that Ninty cares about us.

I just Think the gaming market is going to turn into a hollywood esque type world.

I mean the market has already change and older gamers(some) hate it.

I mean look at a game like Daggerfall, Fallout, etc etc...all the old classics...then look at today...

I wouldn't say the market is "dumbing" down...just appealing to the masses...

I just hope the Hardcore/casual gaming market is able to coexist.

Vecha

It doesn't suck...it just appeals to a crowd that you don't belong in.

Vecha

Are you suggesting that Sony and Microsoft care about you?

LittleBallOfHate

mphz

If everyone thought like you, I reckon George Bush would have gotten re-elected again.

Jesus, talk about an iron clad argument!

Gamemaster

thinred

So...companies should only worry about profits?

Vecha

Friend codes fucking suck. Everyone knows it. It's possible the system will be improved with a firmware update, but most of the Wii's multiplayer games aren't really aimed at online mp anyway. Wario Ware isn't as interesting when you can't see the guy you're playing with act like an ass.

"Innovation" is one of the relative terms people bounce around to justify their opinions in the gaming community. It's total BS. The only crime worse than that is forward-dating how awesome a console will be 10 years from now.

Insomnia Bob

oboroky1

With this kind of mentality, FPS's would have gone the way of the dodo when RPG's became popular (in the U.S.), and Fighting games when FPS's had its' turn, too. It's just another movement, and before you know it, you'll start to see the ratio between casual and hardcore games start to even out again. Who knows? Maybe you'll even see games that offer the best of both worlds-- it's the way of the beast. It's how games... or any other form of media, for that matter... evolve.

RiceBandit

Nintendo isn't thinkin about growin the industry in the lines of beautiful graphcs, immersive and story diven gameplay. They seem to be more interested in makin a quick buck for little to no work. The Wii is packed filled with mini games Zelda and Metroid are great games but they are few and far between. Cooking games and other 5minute games seem to be their main focus.

I really hope Sony and Microsoft don't attempt something simular next gen. If so i think i'll just skip that gen all together.

Jamaicangmr

@Warren DeMontague: THANK YOU.

mphz

Gamemaster

Wii doesn't require demanding games, therefore it holds back innovation. Would we get Bioshock, Mass Effect, ssasin's Creed if the whole market was Wii-only?

What is demanding about Bioshock, Mass Effect, and Assassin's Creed?

Oh, demanding on the hardware

so basically:

Bioshock == System Shock 2 w/better Graphics
Mass Effect == KOTOR w/better Graphics
Assassin's Creed == Thief w/better Graphics & 3PP

Hooray for INNOVATION!

BTW, I'm looking forward to all 3 games, but NONE of them are "innovative".

FlapjacksAreTasty

Obviously since these were what the majority of each of the system owners played, they know nothing of good games, and all three games were casual game shovelware.

BPMΣ

Jamaicangmr

He speaks for more people than you know. People who don't want gaming to disolve into minigame collections, people who want to experience storyline/immersion at some point in their lives. The Wii has yet to provide that, and if the rest of the industry follows that path, the majority of hardcore gamers (that is, not really HARDcore, just not "lite") are screwed.

Dangeresque: I know Gundam is dirty but I love 00

Mmm, cupcakes...

Gamemaster

CastorKrieg

Yes, the Wii appeals to casual gamers more than "core" gamers. So? I've been a gamer since the Atari 2600 days, having played thousands of games across dozens of platforms. Honestly, I felt as though the gaming industry as a whole had reached a stalemate. Tons of RPGs and FPSs and action games coming out every year; not a whole lot changed other than said titles getting a new coat of paint. Ingenuity has dwindled while art direction has taken focus. In my personal opinion, the Wii's interesting controls and more casual approach to gaming breathed fresh air into that stagnancy.

Meh.. I could go on and on, but it's late, and I'm tired. :/

mphz

Luke Plunkett

Wow, that's absolutely absurd.

baberg

How about you just put it that way, please? Personally, I don't like the Wii. Therefore, it's success is bad for me.

I skipped the PS2/GC/Xbox generation -- playing only PC games -- precisely because that generation was not good FOR ME. But that's just my opinion, and you have yours. Please stop behaving as if you speak for some giant legion of people: you don't. Speak for yourself, please.

LittleBallOfHate

CastorKrieg

The Wii has assets that exceed the PS2's, which had several (a ton, really) serious games. Nobody has really said anything that would define the Wii, and anyone defining the Wii is basically spewing hearsay.
For instance, several years ago, the DS and PSP came out. Back then when the PSP was obviously the "best" choice, would you regard someone predicting that the DS would be on top and stealing potential PSP exclusives as anything but a Nintendo fanboy? Tons of developers are seeing the DS as the best choice for their games, even hardcore ones, like Contra and Castlevania- this was unpredictable, just as the Wii's future.

Gamemaster

Almost half are respectable games, varying on your tastes (tho id think Wii Sports, Zelda and Paper Mario are pretty universal) but when youve got titles like Wii Play, Red Steel, etc up there, its hard to look at it and feel good as a gamer. again, all my opinion here.

@Plunkett: understandable, but since im not, and im just here to play games, its hard to figure im gonna be excited about their business goals, you know?

TheIrishNinja

Stop right there. (Actually, you did, since that's the end of your post, but whatever) "Higher-res"? Flamebait if ever I heard it, but I will try to be reasonable. The 360 and PS3 are not just about better graphics. Next gen, to them, means digital distribution (XBLA/PSN), it means proper online gaming, it means not worrying about memory cards, it means consoles that have the processing power to last for a long time, perhaps even 10 years.

Nintendo's next-gen console has terrible online (friend codes, anyone?), no hard drive, and certainly isn't powerful enough to last long. It isn't about graphics there, it's about being able to process what data is being thrown at you, and if you think a control setup like the Wii's doesn't through a hell of a lot of data, you're beyond wrong.

Nintendo does have okay digital distribution, and a truly remarkable control scheme (which, by the way, needs to use rechargeable batteries, like, now). But it simply was not built to last. $250 nets you a Wii, which, I would guess, will last for maybe 4 years before they release a new console. The $500 PS3 will be around for ten freakin' years.

And how is new control scheme definitively next-gen? By that measure, there have only been 4 generations- atari (basic controls), NES (gamepad), N64 (analog stick), Wii (motion controls). Where does the SNES or Gamecube fit into this, not to mention the innovations brought to bear by the Xbox, PS2, PS1, etc.?

Sorry it's so long, but that had to be said.

Dangeresque: I know Gundam is dirty but I love 00

How could you say that the Wii is bad for the gaming industry? Combined, Sony and Microsoft have lost well over 5 billion dollars in the last two years, and those losses seem set to continue. By contrast, Nintendo is seeing solid profits -- as they always have. How is it Nintendo that's hurting the industry? It seems obvious that they're the only ones keeping it from record losses.

LittleBallOfHate

CastorKrieg

Luke Plunkett

Wii is not a "serious" console, PS3 and X360 are. Wii appears to impusle buyers, who don't care about games, don't read games' sites, etc. They need something fun, something fast, and colorful if possible. Japan with their in-born girliness is a great market.

Till it is proven that casuals move at some point to become hardcore, Wii-effect will influence gaming industry in a VERY BAD way.

CastorKrieg

In my opinion the Wii control scheme has the potential (as shown by RE4:Wii Edition) to improve FPS (and other) gameplay, and to me that's more important than having prettier graphics with the same-old awkward dual-analog setup.

The Wii is for people who think "next-gen" should be more than just another way of saying "higher-res"...

erlik

Mostly what you see are a few gems peeking out from a sea of movie tie ins, EA's yearly Sports Update lines, crappy JRPGs (not to be confused with GOOD JRPGs.), and games that pander to adolescents, either through boob physics, riduculous uses of the world XTREME or some derivation, or premises so ludicrous, no one out of high school would be interested in paying for them. AAA titles are rare, and even A titles arn't exactly crawling out of the woodwork.

If anything, the easy of coding for the Wii (two gamecubes + duct-tape) probably contributed to the early proliferation of shitty games. Publishers threw out whatever games they could to take advantage of the console's launch fever. That doesn't mean the system sucks. The new Zelda is fucking rad, Smash Bros, Mario Galaxy, and Metroid are all poised to be damn good.

Is the Wii AIMING for the 'hardcore audience'? No. It doesn't have to. Nintendo's just making some good games for it's system, and trying to get the third party to do the same, since they could make a great game for the Wii for the same price (in development costs) that they could make a shitty one for the PS3.

Insomnia Bob

There are 8 million selling titles on the Wii thus far:

Wii Sports
Wii Play
Wario Ware
Mario Party 8
Rayman Raving Rabbids
Super Paper Mario
Red Steel
Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess

And before anyone complains about Wii Sports, it is NOT bundled in Japan, and it's sold 2 million copies in Japan alone. For reference, no PS3 title has sold 2 million copies worldwide yet (Resistance is ever so close, though) and only two have reached 1 million copies sold: Resistance and Motorstorm.

LittleBallOfHate

....................... Its not supposed to be a serious console, if it was it would be in direct competition with the 360 and PS3, which its not (since it can't compete).



"I went as far as to say "ruined" is solely because the potential isn't being exploited at this time."
Looks to me like its intended potential being exploited pretty damn well.

98abaile2

Old geezers and soccer moms have money too?

regnez

Gamemaster

TheIrishNinja

asherdude

Dangeresque: I know Gundam is dirty but I love 00

Also, compare the number of third party AAA games on/comming out on the Wii and the 360 or PS3, hell, compare the number of third and first party AAA games. Even then most of the AAA Wii games can't compete with the AAA 360 or PS3 games.

Not to mention that George Harrison said that they were targetting the casual market (words to that effect).

So no, its not the third parties that are ruining nintendo, its wrong to say that Nintendo are being ruined in the first place, the problem that is affecting you, is that you are not Nintendo's target and you've been left high and dry in terms of games. You need to stop thinking that the Wii is a next gen console that needs to compete. the fact is its gone a completely different way to Sony and M$ and until people realise that, they are going to keep complaining that the Wii is trailing behind.

Everybody needs to stop thinking of the Wii as a serious games console, with the way it has gone, its more of a interactive, light entertainment machine.

98abaile2

asherdude

people wont stop repeating it because they still its funny. It's almost as funny as Carlos Mencia's jokes. yes i went there. Well i guess its a fight between Sony and MS. The HIGH DEF WAR!!!! but like bashcrafts go away post... people don't understand wars. Either way GO ************ i added extra asterisk so people dont know who im cheering for!

Kotaku Chat ( Irc.synirc.com #kotaku)

@TheIrishNinja:
No worries, pal. Old meme is still and old meme, regardless of age.

BPMΣ

I think he means it starts with Bioshock. Then Warhawk, Heavenly Sword, Halo 3, et cetera

Heliophage

pfive81

Gamemaster

shinko

Providence

Sound dumb? Yeah, it does. No more dumb than saying that all the XBox platform has is Halo, though. It's hilarious that even after a multitude of titles people identify with the platform were released, there are still retards out there who go "durr, all they have is Halo." Seriously, at least update your idiotic, spewed-out written diarrhea and use Gears of War instead of Halo now. Live in the now, moron.

KaneRobot

I need your awesome foresight to settle some bets about the 2008 election... I'm gonna clean up

Gamemaster

RiceBandit

@BPMΩ: my bad, i cant keep up with bad PR and its exact time, i just kinda lump it all together.

TheIrishNinja

Dangeresque: I know Gundam is dirty but I love 00

MS has had a slew of "only on xbox" titles that I can easily identify with. Off the top of my head I can think of more than ten Xbox only games that were console sellers. To include GTA:SA which prior to the latest iteration was a PS2 seller.

Sony on the other hand seems to be quickly infiltrating into Nintendo territory with simple family friendly games. What I am assuming started with Katamari, and Loco Roco seems to be turning into a big deal for Sony as they try to sell the new PS3 as a "hi-fi family entertainment system".

The whole while Nintendo is courting more FPS/Action Adventure games.

My point being, you just can't make a blanket statement like "Sony = race, MS = shoot, Nintendo = different" and not expect people who have been following the console scene to do a double take. There are just too many cross platform games, and too much competition from rival game companies to be so simple.

I'll end this by saying that Nintendo has a legacy of cool concepts, and that I love them to death. Wii just didn't have the games I wanted to play

pfive81

but sony has always appealed to a large audience with a wide variety of games.

nintendo is just the first one to try and appeal to your mom.

joelface

Gamemaster

asherdude

Dangeresque: I know Gundam is dirty but I love 00

@SuperMaxZero: I'm not sure we can make RRoD jokes. We can just hold a 360 owner's hand in comfort while he cries.

Dangeresque: I know Gundam is dirty but I love 00

Gamemaster

RawSteelUT

Black-Dog-Howls

RonJeremy4Pres

Yeah of old geezers and soccer mom's.

DigitalHero

MetaKz

RawSteelUT

@Black-Dog-Howls: I'll buy that. :)

@Dangeresque: Touche. :3

mphz

You don't have RRoD jokes. You automatically win in the joke category just for that. Ridge Racer, giant enemy crabs, and real-time weapon change are just icing on the cake.

SuperMaxZero

Stranglehold, Jeanne D'Arc, Lair, Blue Dragon, Guild Wars: Eye of the North, and Wild Arms 5, all excellent games, will be out by the end of the month. Okay, Wild Arms 5 is a stretch, but I'm looking forward to it.

Dangeresque: I know Gundam is dirty but I love 00

Gamemaster

Black-Dog-Howls

BPMΣ

Secondly, like it or not Nintendo is still grouped in with Sony and Microsoft. They're all in the same business. It's like a film noir popping up in the middle of pop corn flick season. They can say they're going for a different audience but it's still movies and it'll still be played in the same places to the same mass market.

Now I'm not comparing Nintendo to Film Noir. Oh god no. However, the example still holds up.

Lastly, this George Harrison doesn't go out of his way to visit the dung heap that is the intrawebs very often does he?

Black-Dog-Howls

mphz

When you look at casual games on the Wii, you mostly see third party titles- which further perpetuates my recurring argument: It's the third parties that are ruining the Wii- not Nintendo.

Gamemaster

"Halo Edition Xbox 360!" *Silence*

And Nintendo?

"Our wonderful new name! The Wii!"

Yeah, it's not just us. Everybody has their retarded quotes. ...Ours are just funnier.

Dangeresque: I know Gundam is dirty but I love 00

That is all.

SuperMaxZero

Luke Plunkett

Trowble (XBL/PSN)

RawSteelUT

pupaboy

98abaile2

3inst3in

It's like trying to win a drag race with a razor scooter- the cars aren't even trying and they're leaving you in the dust.

An exaggerated comparison, but a valid one.

Gamemaster

Talk to me, Nintendo. :(

Heliophage

TOCATL

TheIrishNinja

SpacePenguinBot

MR. FAP☆FAP!

Then again, he could've been in the audience at Sony's conference last year, too.

BPMΣ

phinehas

flippzilla

SanjiX

Covo375

NitrousO

?

Laser_iCE

I can only hope Kaz helped Namco along with getting us a new Ridge Racer sometime soon.

-Niric

Niric

JayD16

mphz

TheRebellion

Naelok