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Game Critics Announce Best of E3 Noms

Fetus_God_of_Love — Tue, 24 Jul 2007 08:43:14 MDT

That list shows that fighting games are a dying breed. Virtua fighter is good stuff, but the other 2? That's just sad.

Fetus_God_of_Love

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gojira — Tue, 24 Jul 2007 05:57:09 MDT

This will probably go on to show us how detached game critics are from the average consumer.

FPS getting all this praise is ridiculous. There are probably 5,999,990,000 people out there who are ready to play games where they aren't shooting germans, aliens or anything else for that matter.

Come up with some new ideas and then get an award.

gojira

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perros — Tue, 24 Jul 2007 01:53:22 MDT

360 made a good showing. Especially good to see it having all but one of the games in the RPG nominations (other was PC only).

Maybe this will shake off talk of 360 being "all about the shoooting".

-Perros-

perros

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Cartman86 — Tue, 24 Jul 2007 00:59:13 MDT

Hmm Mass Effect from my understanding (could be wrong) wasn't actually playable? At least according to Gametrailers and i've yet to see a real hands on preview from any site. Now by playable do they mean at least someone playing it on front of you? If so doesn't that mean Killzone 2 is able to be nominated.

Cartman86

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aleams22 — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 23:14:34 MDT

I guess I am disappointed with the lack of respect Halo 3 is getting. I am not gonna go fanboy on anyone, but Halo 3 looks better to me then Bioshock... COD4 I understand why some would like this game so much, but it kind of doesn't make sense to be more hyped over the final Halo game of the trilogy. Saved films, forge, working on online co-op, so many more weapons, more vehicles, much better graphics then Halo 2 definitely, and one of the best story lines (reminds me of Star Wars how it is such an epic series)in a game ever. Definitely not hyped up enough yet already more pre-orders then Halo 2.. I preordered the week it was announced.. (i am 116 in line lol)... COD 4 looks good, but why would G4 give it best 360 game? it's not even an exclusive? I saw the same video as everyone else, and honestly I wasn't that impressed. I mean if they want to go modern, and compete with Halo they have to make a good game, but nothing stood out even multiplayer wise, but then again I have never played it, but still. I would rent it, if I like it then I will buy. I hated the fact that some critics were saying Halo 3 was "same ol', same ol'", Halo 3 is already better then Halo 2, but yet not a lot of hype at e3. Bioshock seems cool, but I am not seeing anything special about that game either. Nice graphics and cool gameplay effects, but otherwise it seems not that much different. G4 was only talking about COD4 and GHIII and Rock Band. Now GHIII to me seems like it will not be as successful as Rock Band (i want the mic and drums lol). Rock Band is like GH x4 lol. I don't see much more expansion for GH, nothing really new except soundtrack, nothing new game play wise, nothing truly special about it. Yet it is already getting rave reviews by everyone. I think Rock Band is already looking awesome cause you can go online and have a battle of the bands. Also they (Rock Band) have a bass guitar, GHIII doesn't have one. lol.. I was only really impressed with Rock Band and Halo 3 and Mass Effect. Otherwise really nothing else stood out. Surprised with the critics choices for the best of e3 nominations, but hey... Personal opinion...

aleams22

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seasponge — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 22:05:02 MDT

I'm surprised Rock Band isn't in best online multiplayer game. But I have to say I agree with almost all the nominations. But isn't Bioshock an action game, not an action/adventure?

seasponge

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Lot Krotan — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 21:24:33 MDT

wow, why is anyone calling Bioshock "another shooter?" That's like calling Street Fighter 2 "another fighting game, or calling Starcraft "another FPS", or calling Res Evil 4 "another third person survival horror" game.

First thing that sets bioshock apart from Doom, Halo, and Unreal Tournament: Story. The game is crafted around a story, the NPCs (which can be enemies if provoked) live the story, the environment is the story, and audiologs of the dead, along with the half crazed splicers are all part of a breathing world.

second: Character progression. How many FPS games have you get stronger through the game by leveling up abilities? Using modifications to enhance equipment, or tonics to improve stats.

Third: Gameplay. You don't just go in and shoot, while you may get the job done, you'll use more resources than needed, along with unintentionally destroying something you need/want. You can set traps, use enemies to fight each other, or even ignore some enemies.

Fourth: Moral impact. How many games have you hold the life of a little girl in your hands, asking you to either exploit her for personal gain, or help her for her gain?

I could keep going, but I feel it'd be lost in the mindless "lol PS3 is teh super computer!" and "HALO IS BETTER THAN SEX" comments...

one last thing, I will give a prize to anyone who can tell me how to win at Little Big Planet. Until then, it's on the same level of Forever Blue of non games.

Lot Krotan

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Chris_C — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 19:34:51 MDT

I might sound weird, but Mass Effect is probably my favourite out of all the ones that I've seen up there, mainly because of a vid I saw for it recently. It was just a conversation between the player and an NPC, but the the expressions and the flow of the conversation was really nice and fluid. It'd be amazing to play a game that made conversation genuinely fun.

Crysis was also looking pretty amazing. No surprises there, I guess.

Chris- [www.games-digest.com]

Chris_C

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UncleTonii — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 19:31:01 MDT

@Ludwig:

I never stated it was a bad game, I am simply saying it was not as amazing as it was advertised to be, especially without online play.

UncleTonii

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Nexus6 — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 19:30:25 MDT

Call of Duty 4 gets what it deserves

Nexus6

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ShadowsofHeat — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 18:39:16 MDT

@migsho: Mass Effect, Eternal Sonata and Fable 2 pretty average? Hey dude, can I have what your smoking, must be some strong stuff.

ShadowsofHeat

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Konchu — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 18:02:32 MDT

@Sparkamus: You might be onto something there a totally new Genre :)

@sxp151: Its really hard to make a totally new game since its all been done before. And I really think the point that Warren DeMontague was making was in the quality of the game if we closed are eyes and said oh look another copy of Mario 64 we would miss a well crafted game like Psychonauts ignoring its story telling and art directions.

@Jason85: Wow it is interesting we live in a world were around 80% average game rating across most reviewers = sucks. That is at least for The Darkness and Prey both of which I enjoyed playing through I admit the online play on those is weak at least The Darkness is now and Prey was when it came out but I have a friend that only plays the online games with a touch of the single player and Im the opposite in most cases. So maybe these game just aren't your thing but I'm definatly interested in Bioshock.

Konchu

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migsho — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 17:59:28 MDT

@Charli3: Yeah and most of 360 games are for the other consoles too, except for RPG's, looks they are pretty average.

migsho

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nikolajz1 — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 17:53:05 MDT

I truthfully thought Gears was overrrated. All the levels were completely linear, the gameplay was meh, the only WOW were the graphics. Bioshock on the other hand will own and so will Mass Effect.

nikolajz1

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Samos42 — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 17:52:32 MDT

@UncleTonii: I actually thought Gears lived up to the hype but I do agree that with you about Bioshock. I can't see why people are getting so excited over Bioshock compared to other games.

Samos42

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OGHowie — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 17:34:58 MDT

@Jason85:

Yeah, because all 3 of these games are made by the same development studio. Oh wait...

OGHowie

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Scazza — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 17:27:59 MDT

Isn't Hellgate London coming to 360 also? If so, thats 5 RPGs in the top for 360... Pretty cool how the tides have turned...

Scazza

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Jason85 — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 17:25:16 MDT

Bioshock will suck just like all 2K Games that are FPS. I mean come on Prey sucked & The Darkness sucked even more.

Jason85

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sxp151, the happy-headed nose — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 17:21:28 MDT

@Warren DeMontague: Psychonauts was just another 3D platformer. It was a fantastic one, of course, but there was nothing especially revolutionary about the mechanics. It was the level design and story that made it great.

And Wii Sports was basically Virtua Tennis with motion controls--it was the controller that was revolutionary, not the game.

Don't know about your others, but it really should be remembered that a lot of games, even great ones, are "me too" games.

sxp151, the happy-headed nose

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sxp151, the happy-headed nose — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 17:18:13 MDT

@Unastheslayer: Different from what? Except for Echochrome (of which nothing is known) and Little Big Planet (which sounds like a great game), nothing you listed is substantially different from anything out on the market today.

sxp151, the happy-headed nose

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Sparkamus — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 17:14:16 MDT

@Konchu: They really should make a game where you simply talk about how all your friends are playing games where they shoot people. It could be a second person shooter. SPS! ;)

Sparkamus

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FlapjacksAreTasty — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 17:09:22 MDT

@KONCHU

I agree. Anyone can look at a screen shot (or 3 minute trailer), and say "That's just the same as so-and-so".

--Imagine if you thought "Company of Heroes" was just another WWII RTS.

--Imagine if you thought "System Shock 2" was just another FPS

--Imagine if you thought "Psychonauts" was just another 3d platformer.

--Imagine if you thought "Wii Sports" was just another Tennis game.

It's amazing to me that so-called "gamers" dismiss (and miss out) on so many games because they dismiss these great games out of hand.

More's the pity for them.

FlapjacksAreTasty

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Stefanten — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 17:09:21 MDT

@Ludwig:
Uhm, yeah it is. Watch some gameplay videos and read impressions of the game. It's definitely a shooter.

Stefanten

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kingofallcosmos — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 17:07:05 MDT

It is time to kill the fighting genre as a category in award shows. I still play them and I still buy the new versions, but it is a niche genre.

kingofallcosmos

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Unastheslayer — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 17:06:06 MDT

@UncleTonii: Something different? You mean like Echochrome, WipEout HD, Littlebigplanet, Lair, Calling all Cars, Heavenly Sword, Ninja Gaiden Sigma, Afrika, White Knight Story? Is that different enough for you?

Unastheslayer

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Sparkamus — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 17:05:13 MDT

@Frenzy54: Yeah, with the exception of some pretty smooth character animations and the ability for projectiles to penetrate walls (this effect ought to be standard in this generation), Call of Duty 4 didn't exactly blow me away with its gameplay or graphics.

Sparkamus

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SpishackCola — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 17:03:21 MDT

Goooooo Contra 4! Can't wait for awards to go out next week!

SpishackCola

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PlayingKarrde — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 17:01:27 MDT

@Hagglegaggle: I think we all know that that isn't possible.

But you do have to admit it is a bit hypocritical when publications and blogs and site etc write articles on how sad it is that studios like Clover shut down and how innovation should be encouraged and how little there is in the industry right now, and yet something like Call of Duty 4 is constantly up there as best game of E3.

PlayingKarrde

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Raveness — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 17:01:24 MDT

Unlike GOW, Bioshock looks to have depth to it.

Raveness

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Konchu — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 17:01:21 MDT

People need to let go of the FPS thing a bit. There really are not that many FPS's on that list sure won a lot of catagories for the same game but that isn't uncommon. A 3d game is normally only one of 2 perspectives at its fundemental core 1st or 3rd person. You can call Metroid Prime a FPS but that is a a vague generalization to a great 1st person adventure/platformer. Really many of these games like Bioshock are adventure (in this case with some survival horror aspects) and are games with great stories and gameplay at a 1st person perspective. Sorry if that doesn't float everyones boat.

Konchu

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jkwest — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:57:26 MDT

Heavenly Sword is sorely missed on that top spot...

jkwest

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Macca — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:56:51 MDT

Wow, every game nominated for Best Of Show is available for 360. It's going to be a sweet year.

Macca

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TOCATL — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:54:06 MDT

I really dont get whats the deal with bioshock or the other shooters, they are the same exactly FPS everyone has been playing for a decade, they only look better and have a little more options, im an FPS of the old times (BF1942, Quake3arena) so maybe the new FPS audience is differente now...

TOCATL

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Hagglegaggle — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:53:17 MDT

@PlayingKarrde: By being capable of independent thought?

Hagglegaggle

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PlayingKarrde — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:41:58 MDT

I will be very disappointed if Call of Duty 4 wins best of show. It will be clear that games press do not care about innovation nearly as much as they claim.

How can the gaming public get behind original games if the press don't in the first place?

PlayingKarrde

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Maleficence — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:40:47 MDT

LBP is totally underrepresented there! :(

Maleficence

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deathscent — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:40:32 MDT

@BPMΩ:
First of all, I personally think common sense tells us that he meant games that looked fun to play or that just kicked ass. Second of all, I think few people will actually hate Bioshock for what they did. I already know that there's going to be some completely retarded element to it that'll make the game hard (scavenging, anyone?), but that won't detract from the game. Yes, the game is gorgeous with a few minor problems (water hitting dude's back then flashing straight down), but that doesn't mean it's all about appearances. This is a game that's got a completely different philosophy, so I respect the game right there. I just can't wait for it to be released so I got rub against the figurine for a few days.
Well, anyways, congrats to all the games that made it, and boo-urns to all those that didn't. Loved it that Bioshock was up there, as well as WiiFit (HAHAHA!). Seemed like a reasonable list, but like someone else said, the Kotaku list was definitely better.

deathscent

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TaggarT6 — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:37:42 MDT

Now this is something Kotaku should take bets on. Every one make up their winner list and the winners get put into a drawing for some free promotional goodies.

A hell of a lot less confusing then E3 predictions.

TaggarT6

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=O — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:36:32 MDT

@BPMΩ: graphics arent the only think you can look at, you can also look at the gameplay etc. its not like i can go to e3 to try them out for myself, so i look forward to what seems like it'll be fun, or more casually stated, "looks good". you know what i meant.

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Kuraudo — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:32:44 MDT

@sxp151: Most of the best of show games are RPGs...

Kuraudo

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Nickatiah — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:32:39 MDT

Oh I get it. This E3 was so small that every game shown got on some list or another. And CoD doesn't have a lot going for it.

Nickatiah

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BPMζ — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:31:52 MDT

@sxp151:
It's heavy on the puzzle elements of the game. I guess you could call it "puzzle/adventure."

BPMζ

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BPMζ — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:31:16 MDT

@hass:
"Great"/"Average looking?" So, graphics are more important than gameplay?

BPMζ

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sxp151, the happy-headed nose — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:27:57 MDT

Are those "best of show" games all shooters? (Except obviously Rock Band.)

And how does Zack & Wiki fit into the "social/casual/puzzle"? It's obviously an adventure game.

List fails.

sxp151, the happy-headed nose

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strider_mt2k — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:27:47 MDT

Woo hoo!

Looking forward to Contra 4!

strider_mt2k

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monkey_87 — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:27:33 MDT

I just hope that Bioshock isn't headed for another 'best game no one played' award.

monkey_87

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=O — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:25:39 MDT

gears was over rated ( i have it), but its certainly not bad.

and sure the systems are overstocked with shooters, that doesnt mean they should get rid of the great looking ones (bioshock), but stop wasting time on the hundreds of average looking ones.

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Ludwig — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:22:50 MDT

@UncleTonii: Bioshock is first person but not shooter. (See: SystemShock.)

And you are the first person I ever read saying Gears is bad... even on sony/nintendo camp .. O.o .. well you are entitled to your opinion. Back to fitting.

Ludwig

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Citan359 — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:22:18 MDT

Hmm, I liked Kotaku's list so much more. I guess that's why I only read stuff on this site.

Citan359

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UncleTonii — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:18:06 MDT

@Yoko_Yasha:
BioShock will be another Gears of War, overhyped, overstressed, and in the end not as amazing as it is cracked up to be. The Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 are overstocked with shooters, I wish they would try something different every once in a while like a certain company I buy from.

UncleTonii

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usfslacker — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:16:12 MDT

@Charli3:

Too bad it sure as hell wasn't putting said 360s together...

usfslacker

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Unastheslayer — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:14:13 MDT

It puzzles me the way they've got such general "genres"; no platformers, shooters or all the norms. Action and action/adventure. What, pray tell, is the difference?

Unastheslayer

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White-Sharingan — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:11:51 MDT

Something beat mario? O= lol j/k

Wow bioshock owned. Cant wait for the game.

White-Sharingan

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Reneg — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:10:44 MDT

aw, doesn't look like Zack & Wiki is likely to win anything. shucks.

Reneg

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Frenzy54 — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:10:38 MDT

Honestly Call of Duty did not seem all that special to me, it looked exactly what I expected Call of Duty to look like in a modern setting with standard next-gen graphics...

Frenzy54

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Charli3 — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:10:27 MDT

Lots of Xbox 360 titles on the lists. Looks like MS and the 360 done something right.

Charli3