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Ten More Years Of Atari D&D

play2win37 — Tue, 24 Jul 2007 13:35:11 MDT

It was a business decision to just buy back the rights to artari, however on more professional level, everyone should of been informed, instead of waking up one day finding that the site has been changed. I'm confident that another site will be taking over yahtzee, even if there is a fee, which I believe that is what it all comes down to, money. The game is very popular, interactive, real people want to know what happened. At least have the common courtesy to let us know what is going to go on with yahtzee?

play2win37

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kwazylumina — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 20:06:51 MDT

Would love to hear that another site is going to take over what Atari had such as yahtzee...they just with no notice came and deleted the game from underneath our nose overnight. I am disabled and homebound, played on that site for almost 7 yrs so it became my home. Woke up one morning and poof my home was just GONE! It would be a great relief to just even know who is taking if over or where it is going to be moved to, just to know my home is going to return.. So if I person is needed to test these I would be candidate for that now that I have nothing more to do beside stare at my screen hoping to hear some news on the game relocating..thank you for your time!

kwazylumina

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MonsterKingRen — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 02:11:59 MDT

D&D Shadow over Mystara > Other D&D games.

But that is because Capcom is better than Atari of course.

MonsterKingRen

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nh2 — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 16:35:59 MDT

Personally I thought NWN2 was fine except for the bugginess in the beginning. DND Online was a pile, along with Dragonshard, but my opinion of the Eberron world isn't very high. ToEE was very buggy and wasn't even all that playable unless you download the Circle of Nine patches that make the game playable.

Side note, who did the Pools of Radiance game that was practically unplayable?

/sigh, must stop buying crappy D&D games...

nh2

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SirUrza — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 15:35:58 MDT

Atari/Infogrames had NOTHING to do with the Baldur's Gate series and Neverwinter Nights (1). Those were Interplay titles.

Now it's true Atari PUBLISHED NWN(1), but that's because Interplay got into financial trouble (eventually leading them to go out of business) and Infogrames picked up the D&D license almost when NWN was done being developed. Interplay owed BioWare a lot of money for the Baldur's Gates series and that could have put an end to NWN if it hadn't been for Atari.

If anything, Atari is responsible for pushing back the D&D brand by a lot of lackluster titles and letting the Black Isle ex-Interplay flunkies anywhere near Neverwinter Nights. Black Isle's hack & slash approach to using other people's engine (hello Icewind Dale) should have altered people that KOTOR2 and NWN2 weren't going to deliver the stake and potatos that the Bioware originals came with.

SirUrza

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Mongoosekun — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:32:31 MDT

@Keldan:

Thanks, man. It's rare you hear people taking up for Obsidian on forums these days. They did the best they could with the scheduling. They really are some stand-up guys there.

Mongoosekun

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Keldan — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:14:51 MDT

@monkhino: You do realize that Obsidian is made up of ex-Black Isle folks, right?

And it's not like Feargus and co. are unexperienced in making D&D RPGs, they made Icewind Dale, the godly Planescape: Torment and co-produced the Baldur's Gate series with BioWare.

I really thought it wasn't bad, yeah the toolset was a little sluggish, but the single player was pretty good, and the player made campaigns are turning out to be excellent. You should try the first part of the Pool of Radiance remake, and look into Purgatorio.

Keldan

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monkhino — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 12:48:08 MDT

NWN fanboy here, loved the original, hated the second. A game that required so much graphics power and still looked like crap was not a worthwhile purchase.

I was pissed that I pre-ordered, in the hopes that it would be like the original NWN, but nope, they adopted a few of the WoW formulas, turned their back on everything Bioware created for NWN and royally screwed up the franchise.

Atari, is not really at fault here, but they do need to stop worrying about how fast a game will come out and let the developers do what they do best and make a great game without having a giant black dragon looming over their heads and breathing fire everytime a delay happens.

So long as Obsidian is never allowed to touch the NWN's franchise again I will be happy. Let Bioware take it back or let the Baldur's Gate creators pick the reigns back up and lead it into a new era.

monkhino

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Mongoosekun — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 11:31:52 MDT

I shouldn't say anything about this, but I think it's bad for D&D for Atari to continue to be the publisher. Don't mind me. Maybe they won't force the next developer to make the game in half the time it should take. ^^

Mongoosekun

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WizarDru — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 11:14:08 MDT

What Oyn said. Temple of Elemental Evil was an excellent representation of the source matieral, and with a lot more personality and character interaction (which, admitedly, Gygax expected individual DMs to add).

Temple of Elemental Evil wasn't a bad game for it's design or plot, it was a bad game due to it's many, MANY game-killing bugs. Like NWN, it has a dedicated fan following who've expanded on the engine to create their own content.

NWN2 took NWN and then took several steps backwards while creating a prettier engine. However, there is still good user-created content coming out for it regularly.

If you want to play D&D, buy the books or go to the d20 System Reference Document for free. If you want to play it online, go get OpenRPG.

WizarDru

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EtherFreak — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 10:28:33 MDT

I wonder what Turbine has to say about all of this.

EtherFreak

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ATimson — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 10:28:31 MDT

@LORDofDANCE: Atari chose to let them use it for NWN. But the Baldur's Gate series was under Interplay's aegis.

ATimson

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Oyn — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 09:57:21 MDT

Gee, and here I was under the impression that the Baldur's Gate games were published by Interplay.

@Thriceborn: If you don't like Temple of Elemental Evil, blame Gary Gygax. Actually the pc version has a lot more added plot than the original module.

Oyn

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Thriceborn — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 09:34:28 MDT

Let us look at the recent DnD games that have came out:
Neverwinter nights 2: not great
DnD Online: not great
Dragonshard: RTS based on DnD license. Good but not an RPG
Demon Stone: not an RPG
Temple of Elemental evil: terrible RPG. Has less story than most FPS. Perhaps the best rendition of DnD rules 3rd edition though.

It looks like the last good RPG based on Dnd was Neverwinter Nights, and even then, it was nowhere as good as the Baldur's Gate series.

I was hoping that someone else would buy the DnD license. Atari has been dropping the ball with it for years now.

Thriceborn

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LORDofDANCE — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 09:25:03 MDT

@PMAvers:

They chose to let Bioware use their properties. It is like Bioware and LucasArts with KoTOR.

LORDofDANCE

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Hagglegaggle — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 09:22:22 MDT

@PMAvers: Don't you know that publishing is half the battle?

Hagglegaggle

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ConstyXIV — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 09:17:42 MDT

@PMAvers:
Who is now sick and tired of D&D, and will probably never do one again.

ConstyXIV

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PMAvers — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 09:12:01 MDT

> Atari has been doing a lovely job with Neverwinter Nights as well as the Baldur's Gate series

...You mean BioWare, right?

PMAvers

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Kyle81 — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 08:54:31 MDT

Really looking forward to D&D Tactics

Kyle81