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shawnpfiore

shawnpfiore

After watching the Killzone 2 Trailer, I then proceeded to watch the Unreal Tournament trailer...what is happening here?? I was BLOWN away by Unreal's trailer, which looked very similar and beyond as impressive as the first time we saw the Unreal engine on a PS3 at an E3 event.

Resistance: Fall of Man being better than Gears of War? Are you kidding me? I havn't even played GoW and I've never been a M$ fan, but there's just no way. I own Resistance, and I rarely play it. The multiplayer maps are okay and all, but playing the 1 player has me gawking at the bad graphics and dieing because I notice a brick wall that's just a blur up close, grass that doesn't even look as good as World of Warcraft's up close, seriously now...I'm sure GoW looks better than that.

Unreal Tournament looks like something that blows away what Prey and Quake 4 look like at their highest settings on my GeForce 7800, too bad it seems it's on PS3 AND X360. Wait a minute...

It's a cross platform game, and it's what's got my jaw dropping? This Killzone 2 stuff got a shrug and it's being made exclusively for PS3, yet Unreal is staining my pants?

I play a lot of FPS games, preferably with a keyboard and mouse, but beyond that I do play them. Not my favorite type of game (actually I like DDR and games like F-Zero and Extreme-G), however I've been eating up every little bit of all this action and I don't settle for less than the best quality I can get.

KZ2 isn't living up to the hype for me. Warhawk on the other hand...I've played that game first hand and I'm still looking forward to playing it again (so long as they allow you to mute the other players because I don't want to hear about their mall purchases anymore...seriously wtf).

Warhawk, Unreal, Final Fantasy, MGS4, Guitar Hero 3, to name the big contenders, then maybe if they do a PS3 Wipeout with some more extravagant tracks, some ultimate mix of all previous DDR games into one PS3 version and a collectors edition and limited-edition bluetooth hard grippy DDR pad (dreaming a little there), and maybe some sort of rip-off of Smash Bros, then PS3 would finally take a lead on sales and be making the money they wanted.

I don't say anything unless I have a lot to say. Thanks for reading.

MegamanXGold

DarkCode

Spartan1308™

shawnpfiore

haggen

If you are impressed by this, go get a 360 and sit down and play Gears of War, then watch the KZ2 trailer again and you'll know what I mean.

Call of Duty 4 on the other hand, that was f'in impressive!

KEELr

In my opinion, Gears does still look quite a bit better than what they have shown so far for KZ2 primarily b/c of the textures. The fact that these comparisons w/Gears are being made and argued about is a great credit to the obvious hard work Guerilla has been putting into this game. I watched the HD version of the trailer at gametrailers.com. That still isn't a perfect representation of how it will look when complete, but I have my doubts about the ability of the RSX to produce textures as crisp as the Xenos. The texture detail is clearly much greater all around the environment and on the character models in Gears. Just compare the faces of the any one of the guys in the KZ2 trailer to that of Marcus Phoenix. Compare the footage for yourself.

Gears
[www.gametrailers.com]

KZ2
[www.gametrailers.com]

We really need to see some continuous gameplay around the 10 minute mark to make judgments about the amount of activity that remains on screen at once. It looks like the quick cuts between scenes in the footage released thus far are distorting the pacing of the action. Whether it looks better than Gears or not when it is complete, good job Guerilla.

Spartan1308™

@sand0789: yeah, so very upset, if and when that ever happens.

@thaKingRocka: well, at least youre giving it a chance.

@lane5slacker: @rodsky: comparisions to PC shooters have never worked, dont see why you think they would here.
also, PS3 online network is vastly superior to PS2s, weve got dedicated servers for one.

@sand0789: i like that were talking about games that arent out yet that youre so certain'll be superior (i agree, a few of those do look great) plus you named a few that arent even due this year. class.

@ezwaffles: ...you ever played anything online on a ps3? you should.

@tbone4690: boy, you really had to dig to come up with a shot on this show's performance. nice try.
Also, props for knowing the kilzone storyline, from the future....jesus.

TheIrishNinja

k4polo

Wow, Kevlar35...seriously now? I'm really skeptical, too, but i'm not blind. Note that in GoW, when there's so many things going on, framerate takes a substantial hit. KZ2 doesn't seem to have that problem.........maybe.

bubuli

September

in all honesty the ps3 is playing a 12 month catch-up race in the software line-up in contrast to MS. however, the momentum is beginning to gather pace for Sony. they're also investing heavily in new & original IP not only in terms of content but in technology and application as well (Little Big Planet, Home, EyeToy as well as other announcements i'm sure they'll be releasing later today). while the E3 line-up from MS is certainly solid it is far from inspiring and most of those titles are PS3 bound anyhow (res5, ac6, cod4, gta4). it certainly conflicts with their intention to appeal to more casual gamers since these titles seem geared more towards the traditional hardcore mainstay.

a confusing presentation from MS if not somewhat humbling in light of their recent hardware issues. on principal i don't feel comfortable purchasing a console with inherent design/manufacturing flaws (extended warranties or not). call me old fashioned.

one thing is for certain - we're in for an interesting 6-12 months!

as702ecs

The only reason all the MUCH better FPS games haven't matched the sales of the Halo franchise is simple: Fans. Or drooling 13 year old fanboys to be more precise. It's always been the cult like following that has given it its market power, it never had much to do with the quality of the game (which never matched the hype around it).

Killzone is absolutely a Halo Killer, in terms of graphics and game play, just like Resistance, just like half of the PC shooters. But it won't match it in sales. In terms of buying power you can't beat an army of morons (AKA: the Halo Nation).

LordKanchi

littleman

Eat it you whiny pricks.

Boxelder

With a bad story line.

tbone4690

Bump mapping.

The textures covering the larger geometry were noticably flat. There is a lot of texture work yet left to do. Hopefully thay can get those textures looking a bit crisper before the release. If that is done, this will definitly be one of the best looking games of all time.

ibelli

tbone4690

Pimped up graphics isn't going to save the PS3. Is KZ2 fun to play online? The dog and pony show doesn't answer that question. I expect it will fall short of the benchmark set by Bungie and Halo 3.

ezwaffles

@Patient: I agree. The ps3 just launched pratically and it's already bringing some crazy shit to the table.

Heihachi.vs.Kazuya

This must be the greyest game I have ever seen.
It is almost like the quake palette brown replaced with grey.

Dougman

Easy there big boy. MS showed easily more quality games coming out yet this year than Sony can. Bioshock, Mass Effect, the full GTA4, Halo3, Splinter Cell, Ace Combat 6, Banjo, Sonata, Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, Alan Wake, plus all the titles they share.

I can not remember a time where so many big budget monster games were hitting one console in a 3 month span. Seriously, that list is f'ing sick. Look at those franchises and the devs behind them. How could you not be excited about the 360's fall? How could you not think it is the best lineup of the three? Go hide behind the RRoD argument or something.

Sony's lineup isn't even close. Only a fanboy would think that it is. Why does MS having a better fall lineup mean they are going to start being outsold by the PS3 all the sudden? It seems counter-intuitive.

The PS3 may eventually catch up and take over, but this fall is the the 360's time to shine. That platform is absolutely where it is at. Not saying the PS3 lineup sucks; it is good. But it does not compare with what the 360 is offering, based on quantity of stellar titles.

sand0789

This game looks way better than Gears? Have you even played it?

Granted this trailer has restored some faith, but to claim so boldly that it outdoes Gears is clear fan-boyism. Really watch the trailer for Killzone, pause it and look closely at what you see. COD 4 on the PS3 looks better than this game.

Courtesy reminder for Gears:

[www.gametrailers.com]

Fully in engine

pattherat

Infinite910

strider_mt2k

also someone mentioned something about 40+ multiplayer, that would seem like a pain in the butt having to wait for that many players to join
plus how is the ps3s online network, live is amazing, if the ps3s is structured like the ps2 online network, multiplayers will be crap

and srsly what are loading times gonna be for this if the game is so graphically intense

rodsky

I agree with you Bungie made Halo as their own not to compete, that is what Killzone is all about and has been since we saw that trailer in 05.

tbone4690

However I think a huge folly of many games that came in the wake of Halo is that they only came to be to compete with Halo. Bungie made the series because it was their passion, not a commercially driven motive from themselves as much as it is one from Microsoft. Whilst the devs of Killzone may think likewise I think they're still influenced and condemned by this mode of thought.

Well, that's my two cents: the psychological factor.

Absent Blue

Phenom88

[e3.gamespot.com]

MAAAAN!

pixelsword

sinny

but for a game thats still half a year of development away, its looking like it has potential to live up to the hype of the first game.

oh and feel free to insert standard halo killer remark here, not that it ever will be because halo-fanboys are alot like the undead. there's just no stopping them.

Kayin

tbone4690

Sure, it's not coming out for consoles but you can't just discount it.

lane5slacker

I am more than happy to be a PS3 and HDTV owner right now. What is even more impressive is that keeping in mind the young age of the PS3, a game like this has been squeezed out already. It usually takes a bit for developers to really utilize everything a console has to offer.

What makes me even more happy is seeing every "Fanboi" of other consoles try and shit all over this trailer.

I haven't played GoW, nor do I intend to, its not out for my console. Ignore the comparisons people, unless if the game is a multi-platform.

Killzone is creative masterpiece, the story line is involving if not gripping and really it is a fantastic franchise to pick as a flagship.

Lose the comparisons, it makes you look like an idiot (Like Atheist_Jew) and really doesnt add anything interesting to talk about when it comes to the actual game.

Patient

thaKingRocka

i am getting this game when it comes out. i like the first killzone, so i'm excite to see more of the story.

jerrt

kthnx

BigChiefSmokem

Yeah... That has nothing to do with it's installed customer base or availability of shooters, now does does it? Think man - Halo was THE shooter for Xbox for like 5 years until Gears came along so what else were people going to review, buy, and play online??

7ucky

This beats Gears and Halo 3.

B33

[uk.ps3.ign.com]

read fourth paragraph

GospelGangsta

The one thing about Halo 3 is that you can pick it out from a crowd no problem. They're not afraid to use bright colors and it sets it apart. The game even takes place in a desert and you don't see the same "brown is next gen" look that just about every other shooter is going for at the moment.

KZ2 looks great, no one is denying that. It's not E3 2005 good, but it's very good and looks to be a nice showcase of the PS3's powers. But to say the graphics are anything but generic is fooling yourself.

jihadjoe343

7ucky

khuntilla

Scipher

Scipher

SliceWarriorX

Balance_In_Life

You are going to be sorely disappointed when, despite having less impressive graphics, Halo 3 is received as a much superior game in review, sales, and online hours played.

sand0789

Witzbold

SO SOOOOO JEALOUS!!

SliceWarriorX

But yes I know what you are saying. Just had to correct you about your statement on the fact of people not having played Halo 3.

Witzbold

I lost out on most of saturn and all of dreamcast even some mega drive (still own one though.) And I have regrets for that, fanboys in the end just hurt themselves, one day it aint "cool" to hate on PS3 and by then you missed out on a lot of great games just to be cool on the internet.

/sigh

Irenicus

phalanges

I feel sony really does'nt have to do very much to surpass m$'s conference.

1 a playable demo or 2 on the PSN

2 some surprise of sorts,somthing we don't know already,unlike microsofts conference which was just things we already know about.

3 game line up for next year.

thats a recipe for success my friends ^_^

P.S. I own a 360 and a PS3,not a sony or M$ fanboy.

I am a video game fanboy >:D

morpheous

The textures in the new video are good to quite poor, the sort of insane detail on show in the 05 trailer is nowhere to be seen.

Phil Harrison said the game had surpassed the '05 trailer in some respects. Give me a break.

Killzone 2 looks like a perfectly competent next gen shooter, on par with Haze and maybe COD4, and Assassin's Creed graphically.

No doubt I'll play it, but it isn't the second coming people.

kevlar35

But yeah for me there are many games besides MGS4 and FF13, system sellers? hmm I bought 360 at launch and there was nothing until GOW that justified system seller, but after a few patches on COD2 a dead rising a WWE smackdown VS raw 2007 im not all upset. All though I think Xbox 1 had much better titles and early titles offline and online.

But a system seller, shhh that word... no I want warhawk I want the new Socom I want Haze I want calling all cars I want Little big planet I want Home I want killzone mgs4 maybe final13 (I didnt like 12 after awhile, never finished it.) Then I also want many other games that goes for all platforms, I also want BluRay I want hdmi I want a better media center then my 360, I get all this from my PS3.

Can any 1 thing justify a purchase? no, not anything on 360 either tbh, or Wii for that matter. Cause who do I judge by? I can afford and am willing to buy, so who makes it a system seller? a poor student with empty pockets or a kid or granny? It is all small pieces of a tasy cake. I can afford a PS3 I like the games out and the ones comming same for 360 same for Wii so I own all 3. A system seller, I mean I bought Xbox 1 for Unreal Championship not really giving a shit about Halo1 until I played it. I play my PS2 often, guess what I play? eye toy! Now I managed to loose my string of thought :P hope you get my many points crammed into 1 paraphrase...

Anyway, what ever game you want and is a deciding factor is cool by me, I just thought you were some fanboy making some dumb ass statement that PS3 only got 2 games coming out. Which is so far away from the truth :)

Irenicus

pixelsword

Thx for highlighting the awesomeness.

That made the video even more jaw-dropping.

sakuraz

You said I was saying MGS4 and FFXIII are the only titles for the PS3, or some such nonsense. Clearly that's not the case.

As nobody will ever let me forget, there's Killzone 2.

For the record, I'm not a fanboy. I was somewhat excited for this game back on the first page of this thread. Now my bias is growing larger out of frustration for the incessant flame war that Kotaku intentionally spawned this morning.

After this afternoon, plenty of other titles (they did say 100something, didn't they?) should aspire to join that list. I doubt many will make it, but I would be surprised if one new PS3 title announced today didn't interest me.

Heliophage

thegunshow

Oh and as far as people globally not buying it? It is outselling the 360 in many markets and is selling at almost the same pace as the 360 did in it's first 7 months.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

Lachoy

I think Killzone would have been better received had that one producer never spouted that 'Halo killer' line, as it ended up actually being a 'Killzone killer'. I don't know if the game still holds up or not after all this time (I know Halo doesn't for me) but if you haven't played Killzone 1 yet, I would give it a run. It was a lot of fun back when it came out, and had a very gritty, grounded, realistic feel to it. Great weapons, too.

z0mbi

z0mbi

@z0mbi: I admit, I never played Killzone 1 and I still sometimes imply that it was less then good, I have no idea if im far off or not, I do remember my buddy who I play Halo1 with every month saying that the singel player was fun. But from seeing footage of Killzone 1 I just never felt interested, Killzone 2 however!

Irenicus

z0mbi

It was announced as a 360 title at X05 back as Project Assassins still. I don't recall if there was a showing at E3 that year for Sony. Even if there was, it still suggests that the title was always multiplatform.

Do you want a source? Look it up. It should come easily enough.

@Irenicus:

What about MGS4 and FFXIII? What are you talking about?

Heliophage

Heihachi.vs.Kazuya

@ez054098: 2008!

@jeffram: Yeah I got all started with the "leaked" screenshot... then it was a FAKE! lol oh well looks like the game will kick ass.

Irenicus

deaftly

rojo

I'll eventually get a PS3, but it won't be for Killzone or Resistance.

Sgt. Bilbo

ez054098

Irenicus

Of course, the fact that the trailer I watched, on GameTrailers, was laggy and slow, stuttering every half second, plodding along, didn't help its cause. I'm sure a better stream would do it some more justice.

Grue

I do wonder why people who dumped on Gears for being "gray and brown" are now welcoming yet another gray and brown urban game with open arms as if it's never been seen before. I also sure would hope that a game that's coming out two years after Gears looks better than it.

I guess it was only a matter of time before Sony got some good news because lord knows if they messed up this E3, which could still happen obviously, they might as well pack it in and get ready for the next outing.

jihadjoe343

jeffram

Maybe Sony really will turn it around, KZ2 certainly is a nice step in the right direction for once.

Absent Blue

The fact remains that we're basically getting impressions of someone watching someone else playing a game. Clearly it's pretty, but I don't know how excited I can get when no one writing these articles got to play it whatsoever.

I'm sure it'll be a good game either way, but considering that I don't know how it could be labeled a "killer" of anything yet. I remember when Killzone was coming out and there were tons of articles about it being a possible "Halo killer" and then it got lackluster reviews. It's still on the fence how that'll turn out.

semjaza

Irenicus

jackal888

twesterm

I'm pretty sure a lot of games are intentionally making mouth movements (if not facial movements) vague and a little off if for no other reason than that it's just allowing them to dub different region-based languages... anyone confirm this?

Evil J

Scynix

You should try that side by side comparo you recommend.

It would show you that, although it looks very good, this is nowhere near that professional FMV trailer. Nowhere!

Look at the explosions in the air in the intro. They are an embarrassment to the rest of the trailer.

I can't and won't dis the overall quality that is apparent here. Why would I?

Let's be realistic here.

Sony has a great-looking game on its way!

Let's hope it plays as good as it looks.

kNZA

stennex

Game does look very very nice though, I aint dishing out the money for a PS3 yet. I wanna wait till I see/play a demo at a friends house or something. Im glad it doesnt suck though.

Covert-X

Glasgow's in Scotland genius.

Webdemon

TheIrishNinja

jip100

RedbeardTheRed

TheIrishNinja

drack48

the killer app all my fellow fanboys have been waiting for is soon upon us!

PS3 and KILLZONE 4da mothafuckin WIN!!

BigChiefSmokem

TheIrishNinja

soulscreme

IF {
user(console) = PS3;
Graphics = Better.than.GOW;
}

IF {
user(console) = XB360 + PS3;
do : laugh.at.douche.bags.and.play.all.great.games;
}

dMek

jip100

lushen124

skobar

jip100

Looks good. Very good.

Not as good as you all have been saying, though.

I am glad that Sony is doing their part to raise the bar but nothing in that trailer showed a revolution in game design or performance.

Also, doesn't the helghast planet city look a lot like an earth-city?

kNZA

KEELr

B1ooDshOt

TheIrishNinja

jip100

skobar

Nexus6

TheIrishNinja

@Weresmurf: There is a difference, Vista sux... community will be non existent or poor atleast, and playing against people with mouse and keyboard is bad, it is bad no one likes it if anythin shadowrun prooved this, even if it would work it is dumb. I use to be, "thats cooool" but after shadowrun I cant see anything good about it even if pulled of right or better then 'run.

Also they started making UT3 version for PS3 first, and at GDC midway said it will be compatible to 100% with mouse and keyboard. If anything the versions will be on par with eachother.

But I cant wait for Halo Wars that will kick ass I bet!

Irenicus

Name one game that uses multi-sampled anti-aliasing and deferred rendering if you've worked on "so many".

And my reference was toward unreal ED3 and Gears.

Which again, sucks ass when it comes to dynamic lights, so it's obvious out of "all the engines you worked with" you haven't touched unreal ed 3.

s1n6ul4r1ty

they dindt capitalize, and i too am happy if sony owns the show - they look like they worked hard to improve from past blunders - so youre right that their show wasnt strong (tho if i had a 360, i think idve been nearly content), but to say they got nothing coming isnt correct, either.

TheIrishNinja

How am I at all wrong? If the PlayStation 3 has such great games out/announced why is the general public globally not buying into it?

[img64.imageshack.us]

Take a look at the chart, the Wii's games are unique and truly fun to play, and the sales reflect that.

Gamers want a good experience and enjoyable games not neccessarily the best visuals.

UncleTonii

dadeisvenm

subnet6

MS done this year, what sony did last year IMO

Still With HOME, LBP, eye of judgement, more killzone, etc Sony are pissing all over MS at E3 this year

Its true what they say 'good things come to those who wait'

jip100

TheIrishNinja

So the game will be in development for 4 YEARS!!!! Damn!! I hope it tops everything currently released, then. They must be using GG for R&D for their future first party games..

peacefuloutrage

Marius

Lachoy

Ixero

Sony is now almost guaranteed to have a great Christmas, and even the most jaded 360 fan, who might like the console, may consider dumping it next year as Sony's innovation (high def eye-toy, anyone?) blows MS out of the water. For a multi-billion dollar company, they have made grevious errors that will finally come to bite them big time. Microsoft is their own worse enemy, and even those that like the 360 may switch to Sony in the near future. MS's press conference embarrassed and probably greatly disappointed most 360 owners, and they will probably turn on Microsoft once the late 2007 games are out. Little did Microsoft have to show for post early-2008. All Sony has to show is a couple of demos, and the hi-def eye-toy, and they will overwhelm Microsoft not just in Europe and Japan, but even in the U.S. The one big chance that MS could have scored a knock-out (announcing a price-cut, showing a new controller that implemented motion sensing, showing a camera that could track player movements, etc), and they sucker-punched themselves. What an incredible STUPID company.

bornonce

"All of this spells danger for MS who have only Halo 3 to herald as a flagship, 1st party title."

Halo Wars as well remember. 1st party titles are nice, but it's the third party titles that keep consoles going.

The thing with KZ2, is the reports so far, have generally said that its making incredible use of sound, atmosphere and animation, apparently the textures are only slightly less detailed than something like GOW but the whole experience, apparently makes up for that. It does not MATTER if the graphics aren't the be all and end all, what you want is the WHOLE PACKAGE to be quality.

Weresmurf

You get out much?

jip100

TheIrishNinja

Nexus6

@RedbeardTheRed: And about the art I love it, but just as with gears of war I wanna play something more... uplifting from time to time, gets too moody.

@TheIrishNinja: is this true about assasins creed? hmm

@Karttikeya: it is a script... of the actual engine just actions are scripted. We should compare that too, why not? I didn't notice faces getting worse, for me it is same as the scripted scenes in GOW.

@Heliophage: In that case you should not start with comparing it should you? to begin with. Claiming only MGS4 FF13 and this is anything worth getting and nothing to play until 2008, if it is not a flame bait or you beeing an ignorant fanboy then I dont know what is.

Watching this trailer more then once in HD gets me very excited, and this time it is a real trailer. Im definatley happy to hear about destructable enviroments, and animations are top notch, I hope this gets more developers focusing on animations enviroments etc like the new battlefield and the new star wars game, not just more high polygon stale FPS crap a la im afraid COD4 is one of those.

No focus more on animations, scope, frame rate and AI which has been taking the back seat for far too long in development.

Irenicus

@kNZA: Yeah, agreed.

TheIrishNinja

Don't forget that Halo is not as has never been about the prettiest graphics.

It is a damn fun game with an interactive environment.

You can dis it all you want but it does change the fact that you can have a good time on the game.

I loved 1 and PC more than 2 but damn, let it go. Halo 3 doesn't have to kill anything. It just has to recapture the madcap fun that the earlier games brought.

If KZ2 kicks as much as as we all think it will, then the industry benefits and PS3 owners can sleep better.

Let's stop with the bashing

kNZA

I'm lucky in that I don't prefer one consol over any other. I'll get this when it comes out but, I do wish that Sony Fanboys would stop making silly claims about the game and the video. Heck for that matter I wish the press would too.

Take that oh so amazing opening scene for instance. Notice that the towers in the background are simply painted on and there isn't actually any viewing distance. What was supposed to be impressive about that?

The other squad of ships in the distance are simply lines moving on this flat background. It's hardly taxing for the PS3 now is it. The characters look fantastic but, and the banter is very scene setting. Notice that the guys in the other haulers (when they appear near you) are all masked so that they don't require facial animations). In game all the HelGhast wear masks too, so I'm betting these facial animations are only in cutscenes and on the main characters.

In short it looks like a great game but, there isn't anything ground breaking about it.

Yay Sony finally have a game worth shouting about! A game that starts to justify buying the hardware (though still doesn't excuse the price). Shame on you Sony Fanboys for lying about how great it is and having no ability to be objective in any way shape or form.

The press will lead you guys by the nose to the slaughter house if you don't grow some balls soon.

penhalion

The claim in the article is that this demo level used more than 2GB of data.

On the PS3 that requires over 5 minutes of NON-STOP loading at absolute maximum transfer rate.

They called it a short level. How short?

I have to assume that this game will require a HUGE installation onto HDD.

Even so, 2GB is a lot of data to transfer.

On the impressions side, it looks hot!

I wouldn't start waving it around as a penis substitute but it looks good.

Let's wait until it is out and we can play it before crowning it or dissing it.

kNZA

sectionz

floppylobster

Kyle81

TheIrishNinja

Really?. Not

david78

Dante18

I don't feel the need to repeat all the great games others have already listed. That being said how does it feel, being wrong?

Lachoy

UncleTonii

Man Halo 3 is so forgotten even Quake wars got the taste knocked out of it's mouth. You see this is what art direction and game play can do for your system or development team!

Runna

TheIrishNinja

RedbeardTheRed

...source?

TheIrishNinja

Karttikeya

I'm not even going to get started on your assumptions that the PS3 versions will be better, given the record so far of multiplatform games, but I just wanted to note that Assassin's Creed was a 360 title before it was named prior to pretending to be a PS3 exclusive.

It's clear that the titles has always intended to be multiplatform, as have many of the others you have listed.

Regardless, this isn't a penis waving my-console-is-bettter-than-yours thread, at least it shouldn't be. This is about Killzone.

I get the feeling that many people can't accept the notion that both console adopters can enjoy their experience. Not you in particular, as per your disclaimer, but in general.

Heliophage

TheIrishNinja

"So the 2005 trailer was real afterall? Damn, I didn't see that coming:)"

No the 2005 trailer was pre-rendered CGI, when you check it out, it's clear it is. Though, to the KZ2 crews benefit, it was Sony, NOT them, who claimed it was ingame. Sony tried to backpedal with some confusing garbage. Thankfully the game company behind KZ2 came out and said straight up "Thats the level of graphics we're aiming for." which, in the end, restored some respect for them in my eyes personally.

I still don't respect Sony (Or MS for that matter, tho I own a 360 and will oneday own a ps3 and wii), I think they spout too much hyperbole they cannot live upto, but it's good to see the gaming producers are living up to their end.

Now lets hope it doesn't play like Killzone did and all will be good in the world!

After all, the ps3 is dying for a killer app and I'm sorry but Resistance was nice? It just wasn't the killer app to sell consoles.

Weresmurf

Let me say first that this video is impressive. Damn impressive. Nicely done for Sony.

That said...

No one has played it yet. How can anyone say this is better than Halo when we haven't even seen one or played either?

Qui-GonJim

Ok I'm going to call you on this one. Every engine I've worked on in the last few years uses deffered shaders to do such things as high dynamic range and other post processing effects.

As far as I remember from way back in the old Voodoo/PowerVR days, Deferred rendering was using tiles to render only the parts of the screen that had changed and deferring the other parts. Are you saying this is what Killzone 2 has to do to get it's graphics running smoothly or is it as I suspect, that you simply haven't got a clue what your talking about?

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