SCEA Prez: "We Don't Buy Exclusivity" - Kotaku Comments

PS3 installed base in Japan is less than 3x the 360s.

360 is not selling well there but neither is Sony.

kNZA

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kNZA — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 06:27:46 MDT

@evulcow:

When did the PS3 get an installed base of 5 million?

Did they even ship that many consoles yet?

kNZA

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kirstpo — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 02:57:03 MDT

I wonder how much money Microsoft actually dishes out for exclusives and games to be put on the xbox. I also wonder how much profit Microsoft is making taking into account all their expenses. Are they still in the stage of putting in money as an investment for the future, or are they already reaping what they've sowed?

kirstpo

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SliceWarriorX — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 02:23:09 MDT

That's god. damn. right.

SliceWarriorX

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DataBaker — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 01:52:19 MDT

I don't run Sony but I do make videogames (for all platforms).

The posturing, prejudice and levels of ignorance passed on as expert knowledge in the feedback to this article is absolutely hilarious.

People using bullshit to accuse someone else of bullshit is based on .. what? Nothing other than guesswork and prejudice

It is pretty pathetic and very telling of how objective (or not) vocal gamers are when it comes to their alleged principles.

If gamers using pseudonyms ever had to be responsible enough to stand by the bile that they spew under their real names and be held accountable for it (like the hold everyone else accountable for what they say) then, perhaps, some thought and objectivity might make it's way through some of the ignorant ranting.

Anonymity + prejudice x ignorance = thoughtles, ranting gamers

DataBaker

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penhalion — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 01:41:24 MDT

Hey Jack can you keep the noise down please! Look I know you are building a coffin and all but, the noise of those nails your hammering is getting really irritating.

Surely you must be on the last few nails by now. I mean it's been what? 6 months.

Why couldn't you build a nice quiet online empire like the boys from Microsoft. See how they have a little data fort on their front lawn and are playing all nice with their developer pals. Where as you go all goth and start building coffins. Does your Mother know about this?

*sigh*

penhalion

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datafox — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 23:57:44 MDT

@rojo:

So you find SquareEnix and Konami are without honor? That is a very rude thing to say.

I think Tretton is at worse a liar and at best playing games with words. People get paid in one way or another to do exclusives, like money, bigger cut of the shares, less of a royalty cut, cheaper materials. Something. To say you offer nothing to the developer is sounds like a tall tale.

datafox

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CerberusXTX — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 23:31:15 MDT

@mentalboy11: I think people hate SONY because they don't like being LIED to....

CerberusXTX

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CerberusXTX — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 23:24:33 MDT

@7ucky: I think they mean "greener" as in profits, trust me, theyre not all out to get you.....

CerberusXTX

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CerberusXTX — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 23:20:05 MDT

@Unastheslayer: Boy are you waering the fanboy hat, as it's been said TIME AND AGAIN, performance wise BOTH console are about equal, I just can't figure out how you fanboys can figure the PS3 will somehow be more technically advanced than the 360 in five years, magic upgrades?!? Just because sony feeds you that 10 years BULLSHIT, doesn't mean its gonna happen. In november you guys said, just wait, in febuary the PS3 will take off...and in febuary, it was june....Jesus Christ, wake up and realize when you've been had! I wouldn't show that much blind faith in ANY company, they don't care about you, they care about your money!

CerberusXTX

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CerberusXTX — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 23:11:46 MDT

@Phenom88: You act like it's not in M$'s best intrest to solve those hardware problems as soon as possible, if they get stuck with a reputation that will hurt sales...do I agree that they are being too smug about admitting there is a problem? I do. However if you think they are not trying to fix reliability, you sir are an idiot...

CerberusXTX

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Next-Gen-Gamer — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 22:45:48 MDT

@CerberusXTX
Its not hard. Its impossible. Unless of course you're under the impression that this generation is nearly over, as opposed to just beginning.

Next-Gen-Gamer

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CerberusXTX — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 22:37:35 MDT

Give me a friggin break! Sony threw GOBS of money at devs last gen, why the hell can they not just own up and admit they messed up this gen, is it really that hard?!?

CerberusXTX

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littleman — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 22:23:48 MDT

@VakeroRokero: When you FEAR someone, you don't tell them how to do things.

You can give your child respect, and still teach/tell him or her what to do.

littleman

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stennex — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 22:18:36 MDT

Go Sont do not sell out to anybody. Keep dignity. And use your money to create great games. For one whole we had to put up with xbox360 crap of third party games especially from crappy EA. All micro have to brag about is Gears of War. Please gaming now needs something like even the wii. continue to fight for good gaming and not mindles crap just for a buck. Time for a change.

stennex

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Next-Gen-Gamer — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 22:01:56 MDT

For once, Tretton is relatively correct. Although the shot at Nintendo is a tad misleading, considering that they can get away with it, because the Wii is $250, and a massive success.

We're getting to a point where consoles are going to have to rely heavily on first-party content. Sony learned that the hard way over the past 7-8 months. Yet, even knowing this innevitable change, Microsoft relies just a tad too much on third-party support.

Even most of their potential killer app. exclusives are third-party. That's great for them right now (the games look amazing), but what happens later when the only established franchises Microsoft has are PGR, Forza, and Halo?

I know we all like to believe MGS4 going to the 360 would kill the PS3, but with a price drop seemingly on the horizon, and a few developers pressing for a reasonable price drop (hopefully not just to $500), I doubt it. So where does that leave Microsoft? We know where it leaves 360 owners (happy as all hell). It leaves Microsoft a couple mil less, for a game Sony never paid for, and had at least 6 months exclusively.

They have what Microsoft has, and then some. Which is why Sony hasn't budged, and Microsoft is throwing money at developers for formerly-PS3 exclusive titles.

Again, I'm not saying it isn't working. Its rather obvious that spending money helps, and Microsoft knows that better than anyone. However, they seem to be spending more time and money on what already exists, instead of expanding. First-party content is going to eventually become the #1 deciding factor, and Sony [easily] tops Microsoft. They have a wide selection of pre-established franchises, and they're already creating new ones.

Next-Gen-Gamer

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trmn8r — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 21:58:17 MDT

Sony says "We Don't Buy Exclusivity", but we do a crappy job of copying (sixaxis = turd). If it wasn't for Blu-Ray, PS3 would be dead already.

trmn8r

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eilegz — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 21:50:21 MDT

yeah right who its gonna belive them, i would like to see them said the same thing last gen with ps1 and ps2.

eilegz

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Gouki4u's avatar has a severe case of Jekyll and Hyde — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 21:50:04 MDT

If they don't plan on buying exclusivity then they should be prepared to lose it on some more titles.

Gobs of cash are the only incentive for developers to bother considering exclusivity right now, especially on the PS3 since it has a smaller installed fan base.

The PS3 obviously could use some exclusive killer apps, and attempting to claim they are taking the high road by not "bribing" developers for exclusivity deals isn't going to sell consoles. That statement smacks of the arrogance Sony has consistently shown to be their PR strategy. Funding the development of exclusive titles isn't bribery. It's good sense, and that is apparently in short supply over at SCEA.

It seems that Jack fails to realize during the reign of the PS2 its huge player base made exclusivity a safe bet for developers, but now the tables are turned and Microsoft has the upper hand.

Gouki4u's avatar has a severe case of Jekyll and Hyde

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rojo — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 21:47:15 MDT

@BlueTemplar: its selling better than the 360 tough

rojo

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rojo — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 21:46:50 MDT

@baberg: i do buy consoles... for the parent name...srry.

rojo

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rojo — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 21:43:24 MDT

there are still some japs with samurai honor... they respect what they made them big... like mr. nomura and mr. kojima... some sell themselves for friggen 5 million bucks... the good ones are still with ps3 and exclusives... i hope namco changes its mind about ace combat... it's a great game...

rojo

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SuperTurtle — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 21:42:05 MDT

Of course Sony would not bribe anyone. You see, they are going after good old family values with commercials that have chicks taking a dump on the toilet, naked girls humping, and guys jerking off, and people walking around with suitcases of money. Nah, Sony would never stoop too low to promote a product…

Super Turtle

SuperTurtle

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VakeroRokero — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 21:08:42 MDT

I was going to continue to fully explain my point but the fact that this interview pretty much shows how different their strategy is by putting down the rest and being arrogant again. they have been doing the same stuff that has them hanging to the edge when just last year them being number 2 was impossible. And when you respect someone you don't try to tell them how to do their stuff, just what everyone was been telling Sony. out of respect of course.

VakeroRokero

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satanyoka — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 21:03:28 MDT

Wow. It seems, on the internet, freedom of speech means freedom to be an asshole.

satanyoka

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Kaneda — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 20:49:04 MDT

Kemuri:

I am serious? Do I really think that the japanese would do anything, even if it were very irrational, to save their country (their economy?) and not lose to the enemy?

Heu... Yes. Yes I very much think so.

Kaneda

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Ultrasinc — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 20:41:52 MDT

This is propaganda, being pulled off by Sony cause everyone thinks/knows they don't have the money...

I also recall that VF5 was released later on 360 cause thats when the contract with Sony ends... I.E. Sony DID pay!

For the number of exclusives they've already bought for the PS2 means Sony has already stooped so low

And finally, expecting the earn exclusives on a console which is full of crap to program on and has bad developer support... is just taboo.

Ultrasinc

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Kermi — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 20:35:00 MDT

Really, it's all well and good to ride a moral high horse everywhere, but how are you going to feed it, Jack?

Kermi

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Rectangle — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 20:26:18 MDT

If respect buys exclusives, I've got some respect I can give Sony if they agree to give me a $600 PS3.

Rectangle

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zerodin — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 19:58:24 MDT

@creid: Ba-ZING! *rimshot*

zerodin

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Sawboss — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 19:56:39 MDT

"We don't buy exclusivity. We don't fund development. We don't, for lack of a better term, bribe somebody to only do a game on our platform."

So Sony is now suddenly abandoning the business model that helped put them in the lead in the first place while simultaneously bashing those who still follow it? Why does this smell like a lie to me?

Don't worry folks, once they get some money in their accounts they'll be back buying up companies lickety-split!

Sawboss

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Last_Raven — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 19:44:34 MDT

I guess I'm one of those rare people who actually would believe that M$ would stoop to such levels. Guess that it's not really a surprise since they treat their customers with similar ethics... If you check out the reviews too, they are all positive for the 360. Why? It's because M$ greases the reviewers' palms too by giving them sports tickets, tvs, and all sorts of goodies. The only plus side to this is that once the money falls out, everyone will come back to Sony.

Last_Raven

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Runna — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 19:38:30 MDT

WHat respect thats for winners... Not selling out well thats for loosers...LOL Who don't like money bags and money printers.

Ironicly I lost respect for SONY even more when crazy Ken left... I mean really if no one there had the balls to tell him he was dreaming to big and too a head of his time then I fail to see why any one should respect SONY. Other wise carry on people. SONY will be just fine! The winter line up is going to move way more units than a neo geo!

Runna

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Crull — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 19:21:15 MDT

Its a PR spin, plain and simple, I don't know why people are attacking them for it, who doesn't do it?

IMO It's pretty obvious, that while it may be partially true, it's probably more along the lines of "we never had to pay for exclusives" rather then "we don't find it an ethical business practice." They've simply never had to play it that way, nor has anyone else really.

I don't know if they will get away with it this generation, they aren't going up against Sega or Nintendo, or a -beat before it was released- Xbox. They are going up against the 360, Microsoft, and games that take $$ to make. Microsoft isn't exactly known for its play-it fair and ethical practices. They will, and have countless times in the past, shell out the $$ to either completely buy-out the competition, or pay for exclusive rights that will cripple the competition, they've done it before and its what they're good at.

You're going up against Microsoft sony:p One of the most cut-throat company's that ever was. Might have to get your hands a bit dirty to pull out on top heh.

Crull

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ShepherdDog — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 19:15:31 MDT

@Keeko_ca:

And so is nintendo, The only company that doesn't have a head the size of a zeppelin is microsoft.

ShepherdDog

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AmericanNinja — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 19:14:02 MDT

Man Sony is really doing things right lately. You tell'em Jack. I hope Sony never lowers themselves that low. Good job Sony :)

AmericanNinja

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ShepherdDog — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 19:11:57 MDT

DMC4 Is very much about eyecandy. Awesome moves that look awesome. Releasing the game on the wii would be pointless, it'd just be a moderate game with horrible gfx.
I"m sick of this "Release it on the wii crap" a game designed for the 360/ps3 and released on the wii would be the same game, but with horrible gfx. The wii doesn't need half assed ports it needs unique games that take advantage of its unique controls.

ShepherdDog

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ShepherdDog — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 19:07:53 MDT

@Bowler:

Some games are aimed at a target audience that is known to mostly own that console. For instance I know of alot of games that were made for the ps2 and the xbox, but never released for the gamecube despite there being as many gamecubes out as xboxs.
Thats because the money spent porting the game wouldn't have been made up by the sales of the game on the gamecube.

Same reason the xbox got next to no jrpgs, people who like jrpgs either didn't own a xbox or already owned a ps2 and the sales of the game on the xbox wouldn't have made up the costs or loss of profit from releasing the game latter.

ShepherdDog

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versellios — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 19:06:43 MDT

I call bullshit! They bought exclusivity of Tomb Raider games for PS1. They also bought lots of other exclusive rights which partly was the reason the 3rd party crumbled for the Sega Saturn. This same thing happened years ago and now the carma is coming back to them.

versellios

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k4polo — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 18:59:17 MDT

ps3 wont go any where any time soon. They will not skip a generation. Ps3 has a 4 million user install base. SOny can afford a loss and will be here even 10 years later. Time change and transition change as well. also sony is doing bad at japan because they dotn have many games catered to them.

Although I wish sony listened to suggestion made by others. Well E3 comes next year, A big chance for sony.

k4polo

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creid — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 18:58:21 MDT

You forgot the second half of the quote. It's: "We don't buy exclusivity, we lose it."

creid

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shoutanenjeru — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 18:55:40 MDT

Is it just me or does anybody distinctly remember Sony paying off Square and Rockstar to keep games on their systems exclusive?

shoutanenjeru

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hero76 — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 18:52:40 MDT

geez sony is losing it i am a fanboy and i am saying this sony has gone completely retarted but i am still ok as long as i get my warhawk,heavenly sword,lair,and of course god of war 3 so i don't care to much,but why did the mighty creator of playstation leave and let his sytem be run by idiots.if he was still around ps3 would have less price and completely start winning

hero76

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RPGZero — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 18:38:03 MDT

@littleman: Hilarious ha~! Suuuuure I am. I can't honestly think his statement is both stupid and bad business. Nope, just pure company hatred on my part.

@StrikerGold: I hope so. They need to hurry up and announce these damn games they've paid for already.

RPGZero

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pupaboy — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 18:32:48 MDT

Microsoft has already said they are using the same strategy they used to establish the Windows operating system. They are giving incentives to game makers in the form of cold hard cash and a longer share of the per game profit.

pupaboy

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MehGinla — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 18:28:00 MDT

@zerodin:

I know.

MehGinla

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Lanhoj — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 18:25:31 MDT

@Atilla_the_Nun: exactly! they dont buy exclusives or fund games, cuz they have no money to do so, end of discussion.

Lanhoj

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zerodin — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 18:20:55 MDT

@MehGinla: Takes money to make money, you spend $50 million to make $200 million, or maybe lose that $50 million.

zerodin

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MehGinla — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 18:04:55 MDT

@zerodin:

I wonder if Msoft is losing more money than Sony right now? Or vice versa.

MehGinla

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zerodin — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 18:02:33 MDT

Translation: We are too broke this time around. We can't throw our money at companies anymore...we can't even keep Namco! NAMCO! In short MS is doing great and all we can do is take a cheap stab at them.

zerodin

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MehGinla — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 18:01:17 MDT

Microsoft can win out any venue they dive into. They have pretty much unlimited funds. So I hope everyone wants an xbox 1080, everything else will be bought out.

MehGinla

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EmeraldDragon — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 18:01:02 MDT

Just remember, the high road may be more honerable, but the fall is a lot longer.

EmeraldDragon

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chudgoo — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 17:56:29 MDT

@ Bowler :
"Why would anyone ever do an exclusive to just one platform if there's no financial incentive? That's just rediculous."

So is your spelling. (jk)

There are several very real reasons that a developer might stick to one given platform. Multi-platform development ushers in quite a few problems...

1) MP dev reduces the overall quality of any one version of the game.

(when you design a game to run on one particular system you can optimize the hell out of it. When you aim for the middle you tend to churn out trash. On ALL systems. Nearly any disney or marvel based game can testify to that. (Kingdom Hearts being a notable exception...possibly because it was PS2 exclusive)

2) MP dev increases development costs, which eat heavily into profits seen from sales on 3+ systems.

(debugging a game is hell. Now imagine debugging the same game on 3+finicky hardware platforms. This costs money. There is an example of your 'financial incentive')

If you are aiming to do absolutely nothing but make money, then sure...aim for the lowest common denominator. THQ has proven to be quite successful in this.

But if you have been paying attention to your audience and their demands, you will only release games that are custom tailored to their hardware and their interests. You don't see too many cross-platform games on any of the various 'top xx games of all time' lists.

chudgoo

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Psychotext — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 17:49:45 MDT

@Ivan M.: There's been some suggestion that this PR is pre-emptive damage control for a lost exclusive that's going to be announced at E3. Time will tell I suppose.

Psychotext

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strangepork — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 17:43:12 MDT

I love that Sony is suddenly a hardened prison inmate -- "It ain't cash that matter, yo, it's respeck!"

To those of us on the outside, though -- as many commenters have already stated -- it ain't cash or respect that matters, it's games. Bring games and we won't care what you did to get them...bring no games and no amount of "respect" gets you out of third place.

strangepork

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fatefodder — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 17:41:09 MDT

There's been a lot of talk about a new property developed by Epic Games exclusively for the PLAYSTATION 3, to be unveiled at E3 next week. The story goes that Sony has been ponying up a handsome amount of cash for this deal. This is just hearsay for the moment, but it's been circulated around forums, in journalist circles, and industry idle gossip.

If true, I wonder if anyone will remember this quote by Jack during the Q&A session.

fatefodder

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Ivan M. — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 17:39:42 MDT

@jallen:

I find it hilarious that you believe our armed forces in Iraq, or the United States government in general, has been obeying the Geneva Conventions.

Anyway....

Jack Tretton's touted exclusivity ethics hold about as much significance to the interests of PS3 owners as the choice between regular and reduced fat Chips Ahoy! does to a fat kid.

Ivan M.

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lil_kitty — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 17:38:01 MDT

When your cosole is on the verge of becoming the next N64, ya might wanna buy into that "exclusivity"...

lil_kitty

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Daiden — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 17:20:31 MDT

Honestly I don't care if Microsoft pays off whoever they want, as long as I get a good mix of games on my console. The "high road" mentality from Sony is just silly. Nobody cares. What your customers want is to see whether or not you're bringing games to the console they just paid $500+ dollars for.

Daiden

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Unastheslayer — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 17:20:31 MDT

@ShishouMatt: How do you compare Halo to God of War or Ratchet and Clank? You may as well compare chalk and advanced fission reactors. You can't say that an FPS is better than a platformer because it sold well, in that case I can say Madden is better than Shadow of the Colossus. Also, if I want to play an FPS on my PS2/3 I can. If I want to play a Driving sim I can. Can you slay Colossi on your Xbox? Can you kill gods on your Xbox? Everything on the Xbox had some analog on the PS2, but not everything on the PS2 had an analog on the Xbox.

Unastheslayer

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Xiedo — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 17:19:04 MDT

I don't see Sony 1st party as any better than Microsoft 1st party, myself. Definitely, from what Microsoft is offering now and in the immediate future I prefer Microsoft. Microsoft just has better games right this year, period. First party, third party, whatever.

Xiedo

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Unastheslayer — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 17:12:22 MDT

@BlueTemplar: First of all, of the games you mentioned only Alan Wake, Halo and Mass Effect are exclusive to the 360 so you obviously somewhat misunderstood the meaning of the word "exclusive". If I want to play DMC, Assassins Creed and GTA then I can, no skin off my nose. It's not an exclusive if it's coming to another console or the PC. Secondly, for every 360 exclusive you've named I can name a PS3 exclusive from the same genre; Mass Effect meet Shirokishi Monogatari and the two FFXIII games. Halo meet Warhawk (I'm comparing these two on the basis that they're both going to have good online modes, not the POV). I could chuck Killzone into the mix but I really don't care about it, so I won't.
@MasterOfPastures: How does Sony moving the launch forward have anything to do with what I said? Why do you think PS and PS2 were so successful? They were the most successful because they were on the market for longer than anyone else so people had more time to buy them. Think about it and you'll see it's logical. Historically speaking Sony tend to lose money in the first years of a console and make it up over time. Sure this time they're losing more money than usual but the pattern is still the same. If a bad year meant an exit from the console market then Microsoft would have been out after their first year. Don't count the PS3 out yet.

Unastheslayer

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Do Kesubei — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 17:10:32 MDT

I didn't know there was a "high road" when it came to exclusivity. I don't think developers made games Sony exclusive because the PS2 earned street cred. I'm pretty sure it's because the damn thing sold like - as 'they' say - twinkies at a fat camp. Most of the world owns a PS2; meaning companies can make money from most of the world. Regardless of the Wii's current sales, regardless of Microsoft's fat pockets, the 360 is currently number one in this generation. And three of the four franchises listed above hav traditionally sold better in the west, where the majority of 360 owners reside. Realize this, Sony.

Do Kesubei

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KosherInfidel — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 17:08:19 MDT

Oh bullshit. Sony did plenty of underhanded shit last gen and if they were in the position to play dirtier this time they would, but it seems the people are tossing the BS flags at Sony.

Suck it up, admit you are in trouble, and move forward as best you can. The PS3 is not doomed; not until Sony makes it so.

KosherInfidel

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Walker — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 17:06:11 MDT

And who cares? If Microsoft wants to bring some of the best games to 360 owners then thats fine with me. Its foolish to think Sony wouldn't do the same thing if they had the money... Fact is they lost so much money over the PS3 that they can't. Its not that they wouldn't, they can't.

"Microsoft is too dependent on the third-party community," Wait, SO you werent last gen Sony? You had the biggest library of games on any console and that was mostly thanks to third party games.

Anyway, lot of that is pure fud, the main reason games are coming to 360 is user base.. Plain and simple, it makes way more sense from a business stand point to release it for the one with more userbase because it gives more potential sales than a small one.

Walker

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littleman — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 17:05:12 MDT

@VakeroRokero: (1) Sony's current strategy is different from Sony's past strategy. Tretton didn't claim they were the same. So your point is invalid. I do agree with you that it's a sad, empty moral boast because of their history of exclusives.

(2) Sony has a REALLY strong array of first-party developed titles compared to Microsoft; and certainly more variety than Nintendo (who hold default-trump-cards in Shigeru Miyamoto's Zelda, Mario and Donkey Kong). Sony has SOCOM: Confrontation, God of War, Gran Turismo, Killzone, and so forth.

Objectively it does seem they have a good mix of both. However, also objectively, it doesn't mean too much right now.

(3) Those companies telling Sony to lower the price is not disrespect. It's silly of you to say that : )

(4) Sony's ethics are one thing. MARNEE. MONEY. CASH. KA-CHING.

As are Microsoft's; and believe it or not, Nintendo's.

littleman

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Darcii — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 17:04:45 MDT

Translation - We are broke and can't afford to get the things we need to make us come out of debt

Darcii

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VakeroRokero — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:56:49 MDT

Oh my god, I wish they were this naive in reality, but they are just saving face.

1. Sony has paid for a lot of games in their past. They have even paid A PART OF THE MOVIES' BUDGET (Lara Croft, Resident Evil & Final Fantasy).

2. Sony says they have a balance of third parties & first parties, but WHAT THE F*** is that?? Can someone give me an example of this thing Sony has?

3. Sony talks about respect, something they don't get anymore other than Konami. Square-Enix, Namco-Bandai, Capcom, Ubisoft and even what-is-left-of-Sega have all "disrespected" Sony That they should lower the price.

4. Someone mentioned up there something about Sony's ethics... I ask again about what ethics you refer to since they really have been stealing everything they can from everyone that gets even a little recognition. I bet they are looking at the iphone right now seeing can they can "invent" themselves for their Sony-Ericsson, pioneers of technology, after going out and buying Ericsson.

That's my opinion.

VakeroRokero

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Kemuri — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:56:39 MDT

@Kaneda:

Are you serious??? I don't think Konami and Squeenix are going to really care whether ps3 loses or not. Sure they'd be sadden that they are losing potential sources of cash, but when you think about it since all of Japan is now crazy for the DS and Wii I really doubt that they are just going to go and start cranking out games just so the ps3 can stay alive.

Kemuri

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HenryTownshend — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:55:20 MDT

I think Japanese developers/publishers want a Japanese console manufacturer out there (other than Nintendo, who's more self-reliant) having some say in steering the course for the videogame industry, setting the agenda, or some similar cliche.

Like you say, it's a complicated relationship.

HenryTownshend

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Buttah — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:52:52 MDT

I agree that it's not very monetarily sound to make a PS3 exclusive.

But honestly, if the game industry was just about making profits, there would be no next-gen and people would just be making games for the PS2 and DS.

Buttah

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Valee — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:51:10 MDT

You know what will make me really want your console, Sony? Making sure there are lots of games for it.

I'm not buying some stupid console just because it has respect. Are you a gangster, Sony?

Valee

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littleman — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:50:21 MDT

@Kaneda: Haha, I think the relationship between Sony and Japanese developers aren't exactly "mother ship" and "baby ship" relations.. With Squeenix it might be a little more complicated. When they bombed with the FF Movie: The Spirits Within, then Squaresoft lost about US 100 million. If I recall correctly, I think Sony actually bought out 15% of Square's stock to help them in that situation.

This means that if I'm not wrong, Sony should still be owning some Squeenix stock unless Squeenix bought it back. So, their ties are a little more complicated.

Microsoft also pissed off Level 5 in the whole Fantasy Live Online fiasco ending with the cancelling. Level 5 developed DQ8 and Rogue Galaxy, along with the upcoming White Knight Story. So, M'Soft might not be all that popular.. on the other hand they've set up a special development team (which is unheard of in the entire history of gaming development, as far as I know)to support Mistwalker for Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey. So perhaps their relations with JP companies will steadily improvee.

littleman

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BlueTemplar — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:45:58 MDT

But, you dont know that anymore than I do :)

BlueTemplar

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HenryTownshend — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:45:18 MDT

I hold no illusions that Sony isn't compensating Quantic monetarily. But I don't believe Sony actively courted them.

HenryTownshend

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Kaneda — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:44:07 MDT

I agree it's going to be hard for Sony to fight against Microsoft's wallet. A lot of damage can be done before the wind turns.

I think things will change only when the situation will trigger Sony's survival mode. We should not forget that if Sony is truly in danger, then Japanese devs will go back to their mother ship and help Sony get back in the race.

I think Sqenix and Konami will always be watching to make sure Sony doesn't get that bad a beating.

I mean come on. If it becomes an economical war between the US and Japan, Japan will not give up so easily. We all know they need a lot to give up.

Kaneda

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BlueTemplar — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:42:46 MDT

Fine with me but when did I use nintendo as a reference point?

BlueTemplar

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littleman — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:41:58 MDT

@BlueTemplar: Using Nintendo as a difference point is just illogical. I don't know what you're getting at but it just seems you're blatantly anti-Sony. Get off their case. If you're one of those poor Europeans, all i can say is: too bad : ) I won't spend more time arguing with you.

littleman

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Kemuri — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:41:16 MDT

@baberg:

Agreed.

So they can bullshit themeselves and their fans with all this crap about respect, ain't gonna help them win this console war.

Kemuri

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BlueTemplar — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:41:14 MDT

Quantic Dream: Hi Sony we have this game and we want to halve our potential sales - can we only release it on your system please?

Wow.

BlueTemplar

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HenryTownshend — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:40:20 MDT

@Buttah:

Heavy Rain was previously demoed for PS3 at E3 so I think it's totally plausible that Quantic approached Sony with this proposal.

HenryTownshend

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BlueTemplar — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:39:57 MDT

@mentalboy11:

People hate Sony because they keep making ridiculous statements like the one mentioned above.

They also seem to think consumers are idiots - "All I want for christmas is a PSP" a case in point.

BlueTemplar

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Gamemaster — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:38:50 MDT

@Toasticus: They mean that they don't offer development money as a bribe for exclusivity.

Gamemaster

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HenryTownshend — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:37:19 MDT

Nintendo and Sony have 3rd-party exclusives as well. Those weren't given in his list.

HenryTownshend

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mentalboy11 — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:37:16 MDT

Why is it everyone hates sony? please answer me this, a simple question. did they do something to you to make you mad? or is it because they own playstation? if they created the 360 and microsoft created the playstation would you all hate the 360 instead and say it sucks because of its failure rates and it is losing against blu ray? would you say it also sucks because you have to pay for online and many 360s dont have hard drives? or would you still hate the playstation made by microsoft because it has a built in blu ray player, HDMI ports, a hard drive upgradeable as long as you get a 2.5" SATA, and memory card slots with blue tooth and a built in wi-fi attachment all for 200 more.

seriously, i bet you would hate the 360 if sony made it. a lot of you.

mentalboy11

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Buttah — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:36:52 MDT

Tretton said they don't go desperately throwing money at developers to make exclusives. Whose to say Quantic Dreams didn't come to Sony with this proposed deal and all Sony did was sign off on it. Hell, even Rockstar and Ubisoft said it. They went to Sony offering them timed exclusives for GTAIV and Assassin's Creed respectfully but Ken Kutaragi never got back to them. (Glad he's gone =/)That's totally different than flashing 50 mil in Rockstar's face for exclusive DLC.

Buttah

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Toasticus — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:36:49 MDT

Wait, wait, wait. I missed this when I first read this article:

"We don't fund development."

What the hell? What's wrong with funding development? Isn't that exactly what publishers are supposed to do?

Or do they get people to make games for them through some kind of bartering system? "We'll send you another puppy if you get that robot mesh done by Thursday!"

Toasticus

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BlueTemplar — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:35:13 MDT

And it makes what difference when you are playing them?

BlueTemplar

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BlueTemplar — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:34:30 MDT

It errr.. didnt stop Nintendo or MS from releasing in the EU simultaneously. The only company who didnt release in the EU (and therefore segregated its consumers) was good old hypocritical Sony.

BlueTemplar

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HenryTownshend — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:34:09 MDT

@BlueTemplar:
He was talking first-party ONLY.

Can you not read?

HenryTownshend

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littleman — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:33:02 MDT

@BlueTemplar: The EU issue is different. The EU is a seriously different political game and that's why it's divided into its own general region against Japan and North America. For you to regard the EU release policy as one that contradicts their "non-segregation policy" is a fallacy and poor understanding of world politics and business at large.

Anyway, the non-segregation policy was just P.R. speak. The two companies are just each trying to get a number over the other. Don't get distracted by these red herrings.

littleman

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BlueTemplar — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:33:02 MDT

I know, I was just being facetious about DMC4 coming out on Wii :)

BlueTemplar

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HenryTownshend — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:32:26 MDT

@BlueTemplar:
Uh, he doesn't say anything about "lowering himself"...

Sheesh...

HenryTownshend

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BlueTemplar — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:32:00 MDT

@Buttah:
"While Nintendo is offering up it's usual Zelda, Mario, Metroid combo and MS has....Halo, Sony is not only offering established franchise like R&C, GT, Killzone, Final Fantasy, and etc. but New IPs like Lair, Heavenly Sword, Eight Days, Uncharted, and LittleBigPlanet which all have AAA potential. "

I think you forgot to mention one or two MS exclusives, so allow me:

Bioshock, Alan Wake, Mass Effect, Forza 2, Gears of War, Dead Rising, Prey, Lost Planet, PGR3+4... i could go on.

BlueTemplar

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Knoxximus (360/PSN) — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:31:02 MDT

Whoa whoa whoa! Did he really say that it's bad that Nintendo leans heavily on 1st party?!? Last time I checked, Jacko, Nintendo was cleaning UP!

I mean, knowing that, if push comes to shove, you can survive on your own without having to lick anyones (proverbial) nutsack has got to the reason why Shiggy and Iwata and co. sleep like babies EVERY night.

Someone puh-LEEZE put some coconut creme in his piehole....NOW!

Knoxximus (360/PSN)

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humperdinck — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:30:59 MDT

Sony's juvenile pride and sour grapes schtick is getting old.

Pretty soon they are just gonna take their ball and go home.

humperdinck

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littleman — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:29:49 MDT

@BlueTemplar: Also, releasing DMC4 on the Wii is not going to cut it. There is a reason why neither Sony nor Microsoft really see the Wii as a real competitor; and that's because the Wii's target audience is substantially though not totally different from the market that Sony and M'Soft is aiming for. In their case, their targeted consumer base is very similar. The line is often drawn between "hardcore gamer" and "casual gamer" but it's not all that simple, though generally correct.

In the Wii's case it's literally CREATING a new market, but for companies to release their flagship hard-hitters on the Wii will negatively affect their long-term strategies. I'm sorry but it's a little too much to explain. But notice in general how Sony, while initially concerned about the Wii, have now turned almost all their attention towards Microsoft - and the latter the same. They've caught onto the facts.

It's just sad most gaming websites don't have editors who do. Including this one.

littleman

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BlueTemplar — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:29:30 MDT

@littleman:
Even today - no sooner has this idiot announced that they wouldnt lower themselves to buy exclusives, than they go and buy an exclusive from Quantic Dream.

BlueTemplar

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Buttah — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:28:55 MDT

He went on to say

"Microsoft is too dependent on the third-party community, and Nintendo is too depended on first-party. We like to feel that we got a pretty good mix."

Say what you want but spending 50 million dollars towards DLC that people won't even see until 6 months later is just plain wrong. If Sony has made such a move, the same people who were calling MS "brillant" would be saying Sony was "desperate". Why spend that much money on DLC when you could use it to fund several FULL next-gen games. Also what message does this send to in-house developers where the average budget is around 8-10 million dollars.

While Nintendo is offering up it's usual Zelda, Mario, Metroid combo and MS has....Halo, Sony is not only offering established franchise like R&C, GT, Killzone, Final Fantasy, and etc. but New IPs like Lair, Heavenly Sword, Eight Days, Uncharted, and LittleBigPlanet which all have AAA potential. If that's what Sony is putting it's money towards, then I say money well spent.

Buttah

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BlueTemplar — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:27:34 MDT

They really dont help themselves in that regard though, continously coming out with often contradictory/hypocritical statements.

Remember the whole "we would never segregate our consumers" crap they came out with when MS revealed the video marketplace? About a month later they announced that Europe wouldnt be seeing the PS3 until 4 months after the US/Japan.

Its this kind of thing that winds people up.

BlueTemplar

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LuckyD — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:27:12 MDT

3rd Party always have the right to make game to whichever console they want(usually the one with the largest user base). And more often thant not, console maker will pay them to have certain exclusivity. Nintendo, Sony and MS all at one point pay 3rd party to have exclusivity son some game!

Now...Sony just doesnt want to do so(compare to the previous generation). Not only that, the system is not selling well at the moment and the big name won't be releated until 2008(MGS, FF13, GT5).

LOL he is so funny when he say "we will never lowered ourselve". Pfff as if they never have done it and won't do it again...ya sure everybody does it, it is all about the business.

Video games company are in for the big bucks, been/trying to be "noble" just wont cut with investor.

LuckyD

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littleman — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:24:02 MDT

@BlueTemplar: I was pretty strongly anti-Sony with regards to their incredibly offensive and intrusive root kit fiasco. That warrants pure hate. Let's not forget the exploding batteries...

But on the PS3? As far as I'm concerned the amount of Sony hate present regarding the PS3 is almost unreal.

littleman

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Islandkiwi — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:23:39 MDT

Game Designer: Hey, we have this great game here...
MS: Wow, it is great...can we talk exclusivity?
Game Designer: Well, that means we don't make money from other consoles...
MS: Okay, we'll throw in some cash.

Result: MS gets an exclusive game, the game developer has lots of programmers used to working on the 360, more games come out on 360 as a result.

Game Designer: Hey, we have this great game here...
Sony: Wow, it is great...can we talk exclusivity?
Game Designer: Well, that means we don't make money from other consoles...
Sony: ...and? You disrespecting me?

Result: Sony loses exclusives.

This is not a respect issue, it's a business issue. Frankly I think it's disrespectful of Sony not to offer companies some cash for exclusives. It shows they don't feel you're worth it.

Islandkiwi

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EnigmaNemesis — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:23:04 MDT

@NotNormal23224:

Saturn broke its own back with the $500 price tag, and the bitch to even make a game for system.

EnigmaNemesis

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Marius — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:22:31 MDT

Peanuts and pistachios? I do not agree. Try caramelised pekan nuts ooooOOOOhhh, now thats a good combo.

Marius

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NotNormal23224 — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:20:09 MDT

The only reason Sony would not pay for exclusives is if they are broke. For all you young'un who "respect" Sony for that line of BS they just fed you, Sony used it's wallet to break the back of Sega consoles TWICE (Saturn, then much more virulently the Dreamcast), as well as use it's cash to buy it's way into the industry in the first place (fighting Nintendo). Folks who buy this lame line need a serious history lesson. Heck they just bough an exclusive deal the other day for Heavy Rain, it's in the news today, man if that guy was Pinocchio his nose would have killed the interviewer by skewering him through the heart as he spoke!

NotNormal23224

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Konchu — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:17:21 MDT

Really there are lots of games that have been funded or supported by one side or the other. And really is just mud slinging to say otherwise. You see its a consoles makers job to make sure there are plenty of games for it and I will say MS has been doing a nice job of it this generation.

Sure games like Gears of War, Blue Dragon are funded and produced by MS using external companies but this happens in the industry all the time look at Nintendo with Smash Brothers (Hal), F-Zero GX (Sega), Donky Konga (Namco). The thing is making your system compelling with games is the manufactures duty and Sony just hasn't quite got there yet this gen but I look forward to the fall when it gets into its stride.

As stated above there have been deals made for a long time for exclusives be that the Tekkens,Soul Calibur 3, GTA's etc. To be fair this last gen they probably didnt have to work hard for exclusives cause they where the market leader and they could just throw there weight around.But like Nintendo of the 90's throwing there weight around and arrogance had its consequences and they are just now recovering. I hope Sony can too cause I want the competition that is the main reason I bought a PS3 there will be some good games for the PS3 and competition is a must so no one developer becomes too comfortable.

Konchu

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BlueTemplar — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:17:20 MDT

Lol yeah "DMC4 - Crappy Standard-Def Mini-Game Edition"

BlueTemplar

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7ucky — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:17:17 MDT

"With a recent batch of exclusives that were traditionally on the PlayStation family of platforms making for greener Xbox 360 pastures"

What the fuck is that? The articles on here keep getting more and more biased... against everyone. When did gaming news (if you can call it that) become so cynical?

7ucky

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HenryTownshend — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:15:44 MDT

*cackles disdainfully*

Now that game they'd make for the Wii wouldn't be DMC4, would it?

It'd be DMC Legends, cutesy twee version.

HenryTownshend

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BlueTemplar — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:11:18 MDT

"And I think Capcom actually wants to sell at least a couple copies of DMC4 in Japan... "

They need to release it on the Wii then, coz PS3 is selling really badly in Japan as well. /notsarcasm /coldhardtruth

BlueTemplar

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jive238 — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:10:33 MDT

How is Sony's line up the balanced one of the three? I'll agree that Nintendo relies one first party(they don't have much choice) and Xbox goes with third party, but Sony being the balanced of the three is bull! If anything Playstation is more know for its third party support even more than Microsoft and i'm sure they don't have a first party title they can rely on as much as mario for Nintendo so where is the balance? You can almost say Sony is made of third party, why do you think people are still watching to see if games like Final Fantasy and Metal Gear shift over? Its almost as if no other games matter.

jive238

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HenryTownshend — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:09:27 MDT

Amazed? Yeah, 'cause those games are system-sellers. /sarcasm

And I think Capcom actually wants to sell at least a couple copies of DMC4 in Japan...

HenryTownshend

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alucard_0007 — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:09:27 MDT

Just for the record, buying timed exclusives is NOT the same as buying exclusives. Exclusivity means barring all consoles but one. If it comes to a new system down the road it is in no way, shape, or form "exclusive". So let's drop that argument right now.

And actually if you go back and read some developer comments (i.e Square and Quantic), they're only developing for the PS3 because it has the greatest potential to make the epic games they've envisioned. That's another false assumption that anytime somebody says something good about a console its written off as "oh they paid them to say that". Nope sorry, some developers aren't all lazy and actually do enjoy their job.

alucard_0007

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littleman — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:09:24 MDT

@Tezs: If Sony stock is bottom-barrel now, there is only one way - and that is UP.

So buy stock now : )

If you don't understand the economics, I can teach you.

littleman

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BlueTemplar — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:09:19 MDT

@littleman:
In fairness bud, it's pretty hard not to be a little anti-sony when they continue coming out with this kind of crap.

BlueTemplar

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Justcrim — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:09:08 MDT

I know they are NOW a first party company. But Killzone was announced PRIOR to Sony finally making them part of Sony (Wiki says they signed the deal in 2004, but later in the page it says Dec 2005).

From how I remember it, Killzone was announced, hyped, Sony announced they bought them, the game was released. So, when the game was being developed, the game was third party, and being called the Halo killer. Sony invested in helping this company remake itself. The company reformed and changed their name in 2003, with this whole thing happening in 2004-2005. Sony used it as an investment, and decided later to purchase.

Also, Microsoft doesnt go around buying one company after another. And Neither does Sony. They buy specific companies for their own reasons. Microsoft may not have bought a large Japan based company, but they sure have invested in game developers that are highly revered in Japan. You pointed out earlier their investment in Blue Dragon. They basicly bought 2 games to be made by that company when they helped fund the creation of their studio. And so far those games they are making are getting a lot of hype and great scores. They could buy that company, but they most likely would not have gotten 3 legends working there almost exclusively for them. Out of respect, but respect for the money.

Justcrim

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sasquatchua — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:08:43 MDT

So if they don't buy exclusivity, they "earn it," (presumably through the desirability to develop on the Playstation platform), and they're not getting the exclusives...

I think Jack Tretton just admitted that he's in charge of a platform that's undesirable to develop for.

sasquatchua

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littleman — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:08:11 MDT

@RPGZero: You certainly didn't mean that. You deliberately shat on Sony by exploiting general internet user behavior. You're obviously intelligent. But your behavior obviously hints at the anti-Sony badge.

Wear it as you do though for whatever motivation you have, because obviously most won't take the time to think over your statements.

littleman

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jip100 — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:06:23 MDT

@Justcrim: Sony OWN gurrila studios now, so really they are funding there own projects,

@HenryTownshend: Its multiplat not exclusive

jip100

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MasterOfPastures — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:05:59 MDT

@Unastheslayer: Hahaha... Actually, the official word of Sony at the time of the Xbox was that due to it, they had to move foreward and launch the PS3 sooner...
Sure, MS will have a new console by 2011 or '12, but if Sony does not act up and catch on, they will be left behind fast. Or they will have to "skip" a generation. Remember,a one year delay has already damaged Sony enough.

MasterOfPastures

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BlueTemplar — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:05:32 MDT

I@HenryTownshend:

It wouldnt surprise me in the least if it happened given the way things are going at the moment - I was pretty amazed when I heard Sony was losing Katamari and Fatal Inertia.

BlueTemplar

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HenryTownshend — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:03:33 MDT

It's listed among the exclusive games in the article... Fatal Inertia, Ace Combat 6, Beautiful Katamari. I thought perhaps this was a new development.

Anywho, that's a relief...

HenryTownshend

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ShishouMatt — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:03:27 MDT

@Unastheslayer: -"@ShishouMatt: Really? Can you name me a single Xbox exclusive, Microsoft developed game apart from Forza motorsport? Crimson Skies, Halo and Fable were on PCs and I really can't think of many other Microsoft developed games that sold particularly well."-

Just because they are on PC, doesn't make them any less of a 1st party. Microsoft still makes money off the game and own Windows. 1st party and 2nd party tend to be the same thing nowadays, so let us just categorize them together. Halo alone beats out any franchise Sony has, perhaps with exception of Gran Turismo. Quality over quantity, Halo has proven it can push consoles far better than anything Sony has, that is what I like to call a great 1st party. Mario, Zelda, Halo, great franchises that push consoles out the door. God of War is about the best Sony has for pushing consoles yet it doesn't sell well enough to be on the level of Halo. Xbox's best selling games = 1st party and Playstation's = 3rd party. I think that speaks for itself.

ShishouMatt

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BlueTemplar — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:02:42 MDT

@Unastheslayer:

Okay, i'll mark your words if i can find time between playing all these quality xbox exlusives - may take a while though, theres shedloads of 'em.

BlueTemplar

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BlueTemplar — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:00:56 MDT