<![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3 - Kotaku Comments]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3 - Kotaku Comments]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> I don't believe part of his opinion is crazy. He clearly understands that the average person would enjoy this at a monthly party. It's not something that will have long term value. I feel its more of a hype thing. The next cool toy you buy that gets to sit in the corner of the room after its initial excitement is gone. One could argue its the same with the rest, but how often can the average player swing a Wii remote like a baseball bat before it gets old? I guess the same as pressing the button on a PS3 and X360. The point of a PS3 being so much potential.. well potential never reaches its max. PS2 has more capabilities yet nobody (including sony) can even achieve there wasted technology. Potential PS3 wins, Using a system to its fullest X360 wins.. Hype like the Tickle me Elmo doll Wii all the way!!!

Ruefiesty31

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> Fanatics

coalhalo

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> @Sparkamus: It does yet I havn't tried to play any other FPSs yet, call of duty is suppose to be better I'll see soon. It works pretty damn good though. They should make a red steel 2 and fix the controls! Funner sword fighting would be cool also.

Really do this go to walmart...LOL get a Wii keep your receipt and go reant some of these games for like 5 days. If you don't like take it back! The reason why I say try a few games is because each one has a solution yet once all the solution are in the next wave of software then every thing should be great.

Runna

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> Considering that the Wii has been dominating the charts, it would not even dampen the sales no matter what Sega says. More importantly is that, whether the Wii will still be around next year and this is the real issue.

HD is the only way to go and 1080p seems to be the sweet spot. The Wii has only 480p and unless they upgrade to Wii 2, it is unlikely the public will continue to be "enthralled" by the Wii.

iixion

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> @vinnchan: YES! and for only like $500 while the ps3 (somehow graphically inferiror in your book at this point...?) is where you put it at $250...you see the problem here?

@Northernsky: Im with you! Shenmue III, by god!!

@LIVINGLEGEND69: DONT LOOK NOW BUT YOUR CAPS LOCK IS ONS

TheIrishNinja

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> Considering we've had the same directional buttons, and pseudo-'A' 'B' 'Y' and 'X' buttons for a while now, I don't think the wrist motion controls will be getting stale anytime soon. The biggest innovation button-wise we've had in a while would be analog sticks and trigger buttons, so I rather welcome motion controls. Doesn't mean I want everything to rely on motion controls, but you have to admit it adds a bit more entertainment usually. And it's ALWAYS funny to watch people make a fool of themselves while they play ^_^

Shadowmist

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> I agree. Historically, Nintendo consoles just don't have the endurance they once had (NES, SNES).

I think "historically", it's pretty silly to draw up TRENDS based on a handful of platforms from each manufacturer.

Nobody can predict the future of consoles based on the past since multiple different conclusions are supported. The "experts" who look at previous market performance for the industry are freaking morons.

I may not know what will happen with PS3 or Wii... but I know a lot better than to try to use NES sales in in the 1980s to predict what's going to happen with COMPLETLY NEW TECHNOLOGY over 20 years later. It's like predicting airplane market based on which car companies were the best.

And if Sega is so smart, why did they go from 65% of the North American hardware market... to 0% in just 8 years? If Sega is so smart, why are they reduced to writing software for OTHER hardware manufacturers after being SOLD OFF.

dcartist

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> @THE WHOLE DAMN WORLD:

2006: Nintendo releases the Wii for $250. Sony releases the PS3 for $600. BILLION people buy Wii. Half a billion buy PS3s.

2011 (halfway into the PS3 life cycle): Sony FINALLY drops the PS3 to $250. Nintendo Releases Wii2... for $250; it has full backwards compatibility with the Wii and it still has its now PROVEN waggle powers. Because the technology has evolved, the Wii2 has BETTER graphics than the PS3, and Nintendo still makes a profit on the system. They sell a Billion Wii2s, cause hey, people love graphics.


Has anyone ever considered that option? Because looking at that simple and logical path, nintendo will have the same technology in the end that the PS3 will, but with a better selling system that will ALWAYS have made them money. A very clear victory. And, 5 years is enough for the fad to die and be reborn when the pretty new graphics come out.

vinnchan

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> does everyone that keeps saying the wii wont last for more than a couple years think that mom and dad and all the new people the wii brought to gaming are sitting there saying

"wow metal gear solid looks soo much better than mario party, better dump my wii for a ps3"

no, they're not gamers like nearly all of the people that post on kotaku, they want value, which the wii will still have over both the 360 and ps3, and they want something they can comprehend, which the wii control scheme apparently is...they dont care about graphics as much

so i dont know why all the graphics whores keep thinking that jane and joe smith are suddenly going to jump ship on the wii, and make a further, more expensive investment on another console

kingsneak

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> been said 10x over, but....
1) he's right, the hardwares limited, if you dont think itll really, really show in hte coming years, youre not sure of what you bought for $250 (and i like mine).
2) i tend to think he's getting more trashed for saying "yay ps3" than "yay 360" buy i could be wrong.
3) i understand its not wise for him to be saying this.
4) how does this matter? if NiGHTS is good, will this statement stop/affect sales? no.
5) that said, NiGHTS better be fucking awesome, cause i havent liked a sega title since, uh, Sonic Adventure 2. and that's including Yakuza...sad when you figure i grew up on a master ssytem.

TheIrishNinja

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> Did anyone post the update to his comments? A little bit of back pedaling and "clarification"

"SEGA has fully supported the Wii since day one and we continue to do so - it's no secret that we are close partners. Nintendo has done a masterful job of selling its vision and expanding the market. That said, it's a shared responsibility and opportunity for the whole industry to take advantage of the possibilities of the Wii. If we don't realize its true potential, we will have missed a great opportunity to expand creatively and that is what I was cautioning against in the Reuters interview. I'm not just putting the responsibility of innovation on Nintendo. It's on SEGA and all the publishers and developers as well to carry that flag."

In other words, I shot my mouth off, Sega of Japan and my bosses are pissed, and now I have to fix it.

tebunker

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> I've been getting _outstanding_ value from wrist motions for years. And although the motions may be derivative, the value is going to stay up, right where it is now.

internetnerd

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> THE WII SUCKS!!! That is all.

Phenom88

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> Sega: You can't be creative with motion controls, so we make uncreative games for traditional consoles!

--

Everyone seems to be pretty unhappy with Sega's games as of late, but I wouldn't be blaming them for this guy's comment. If anything Sega is probably seeing some extra income because of the Wii. I doubt he speaks for the majority of their perspectives.

StarStabbedMoon

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> Wii is the suxorz, ps3 ftw!!11ºº1!º1!

Mike918

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> Hey developers, maybe instead of complaining about the Wii and saying that the Wii hype will fade. Why not, oh I don't know, make good games that way everyone is still buying Wii's and you get money. That way everyone wins.

Kemuri

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> I AGREE THE WII IS A VERY LIMITED CONSOLE WITH LIMITED CAPABILITIES. I FEEL THAT THE WII POTENTIAL IS ALREADY BEING USED..IN A COUPLE OF YEARS THE WII FAD FILL FADE OUT@sarshelyam:

LIVINGLEGEND69

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> Lets just say no one in their right mind will pay $700 to play sonic the hedgehog. Fact.

(price in $CDN)

charman

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> Um... "hating on it?" "burning bridges?" "kuh-razy?"
What article are you reading? I hate to say it Plunkett, but those comments are fucking, needlessly nuts.

The man is expressing doubt that the Wii's popularity will continue unabated. It's different technology and direction, you'd be retarded to NOT be cautious about its future.

So Sega doesn't have the best track record, but this is just one guy stating an opinion, and an entirely reasonable and completely moderate one at that.

He thinks the Wii *might* not keep its appeal forever, and he thinks the PS3 likely has more *long term* *potential.* What the fuck is so crazy about that?

Jawajoey

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> @crck:

If you can't state youe opinion without flame baiting or sounding childish, please keep it to yourself.

You don't like the Wii, fine. No skin off my teeth. However, when you make comments like this, you become annoying and your point -- assuming you had one -- is lost.

EmeraldDragon

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> oh yea I am not a wii hater I am getting one for smash and thats about it. I may play with motion sensor a bit but i only goigng to play smash with gamecube controller for wii, sad to say :(. Motion sensor just doesn't grab me as me being a very lazy person.

k4polo

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> Sparkamus:

Even though it had control issues, Red Steel had a control setup like this. The analog stick on the nunchuck moved you and the remote allowed you to aim, so you effectively moved and aimed independently. Hope that answers your question.

panadero99

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> Hmm I agree with him. While games dont need motion sesnsor the wii is MOSTLY about motion sensor except for a gaeme like smash brothers. Without the motion sensor the wii wouldnt be close to a success and thats a fact. So if you develop a game without motion sensor(Which is most popular on the wii), then the game has a negative to it, Most wii players play with motion sensor.

While the classic controller and gamecube controller can be used the fact remains that the wii is guided by the motion sensor controller and most games have to follow that route to be a success IMO.(Popular games like FF:CC wouldnt need it though)


I think the problem is that is can be hard to make a some games for the wii that are better suited for ps3 or 360.

k4polo

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> I'm sorry Luke but I gotta dissagree with you on this one I completley agree with Scott Steinberg. I don't think it was worth stating because it will only hurt his buisness but still he makes a very very valid point I work in a game store and we are getting more and more little kids coming in saying they are getting tired of there wii do to lack of good dames and if a video game system can't hold the attention of a 10 year old then there is a big problem for nintendo

Neo_X

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> Question for the owners of the Wii:
Does the Wiimote allow you, in a first person shooter, to look, move, and aim independently of the other?
What I mean is this: In console and PC FPS, where you look is also where you aim. So, one analog stick is assigned to movement, while another analog stick is assigned to turning (which is also aiming).
I'm wondering if the nun chuka's analog stick, the Wiimotes D-Pad, and the infared pointer could facilitate a FPS where one can move (using the D-Pad) look (using the analog stick) and then aim (using the pointer)?

Sparkamus

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> Thats all the correction I'm doing ...LOL I would do more but hey thats speed poting for you while your supose to be working!

Runna

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> WOW man this post box needs to be bigger!

Although most people just couldn't understand the moves where pointer based and couldn't keep the pointer on screen.

This is actually the main problem. Developers forgot on screen recognition of inputs. You should be able to turn this on for beginners and turn it off for people who know what they are doing all in game.

Runna

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> @Runna: Good lord They know who they are! And actualy are too cool to post on web sites like this for fear of being called a geek!

Runna

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> @Runna: LOL

Really the breaking point for me and my FRIENDS that think they are cool... Sorry about that!

Runna

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> @Northernsky: Well isn't that a good reason to get a PS3 I with you on that, yet Sega is not really ran by this guy so I think I'll keep on buying cool stuff even if they do happen to make it. Now If I hear this from they're dev team then you just know it's going to suck on purpose.

Come on Panzar dragoon would be sweet! Shinobi.. a real one damn it! Actually the game play for that game is built for the Wii... weird why not port stuff that got forgotten by the PS2 hail storm of AAA titles? Of course you may want to fix some things...

Runna

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> I AGREE WITH GenRedLeader THIS WAS A STUPID MOVE BY SEGA OR WAS IT..CEO'S AND COMPANY HEADS ALWAYS TRY TO CREATE CONTRIVERSY TO KEEP THE NAME BRAND GOING...MAYBE THIS WAS SEGA LAST DITCH EFFORT..

LIVINGLEGEND69

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> @silkysm00th: Really the breaking point for me and my that think they are cool ...LOL Don't worry they know how they are and we give them hell too, was Madden. Kicking actualy took skill, tackle actual had alot of choices do I dive or will I sprint, will he spin thur my hard tackle? And running is a dream come true. You can stiff arm and juke and even run over people if you know what you are doing.

With MK we had tons of jokes then when I figured out how to play it and showed every one it was like the snes all over again! even people that didn't play fighters loved it and the cheesy ripping all you guts out with just grabing at them...LOL

Although most people just could understand the moves where pointer based and couldn't keep the pointer on screen.

Dragon ball was total different... You actually shake the controller forward and use the a button to beat the hell out of them then put the cursor on screen to shoot the hell out of them with the trigger button. When you get use to the controls and the strategy the game really shines and I never hope around playing that game... I'm sitting down the whole time.

Now red steel is a beaty with a drinking habit I have to say.. turning down the in game sensitivity helps alot yet you won't be quaking it or even socoming it on this game... You better get a shot gun in the beginning as you'll be as good as the guy would be in real life if you have never been trained in the military... LOL which is ok to me and makes sense yet they did drop the ball on this.

Also too Pool and shooting and the crazy hard lazer hockey game are bragging rights games in my circle along with nightly and week end FPS maratons!

I havn't played Scare face yet nor have I got around to seeing when manhunt comes out but it actually got a crazy high review! Of course I'm getting res evil though.

It's not much but I'm really looking forward to whats coming next and I applaud the games I've listed as this was the only way I didn't join the I hate nintendo camp. From the first step up issues to not know how far away I should be from the damn thing to adjusting the setting to fit me.

But hey I'm a PC gamers I expect these things. most normal casual games don't need these tweaks and work fine out of the box but it's clear to see the game are going to get a lot better and waggle is a bad way to describe the system and will get your ass kick in real hardcore games.

It really is a trip when you start to use the whole controller. Hell I'm so hard core I only rented zelda...LOL that wasn't the system seller for me. So I'm not sure how many of you guys actually have a Wii... Now if you just tried it out then I see your point cuz you didn't have time to get use to it and playing it in stores is actualy a bad thing. There is a reason why nintendo has a couch in the player videos cuz it staedies you hand by resting your arm on your lap the same way you play real games...

Runna

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> Erm that's great that Sega is hitting up the Sony bus, they seem to be going bat shit insane ala Playstations execs anyways.

I don't think Nintendo really cares, whens the last time a Sega game was actually relevent on any platform?

Ohnuki

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> Infact, I suggest something to all the disillusioned Sega fans out there, something that we can all work towards, for the greater good!

From this day forth, I, Northernsky, am refusing to buy anything affiliated with Sega until I see a genuine release date for Shenmue III.

WHO'S WITH ME?!

Northernsky

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> @crck: You are a fool get a DLP. How am I anti tech when I told you what to get and you claim that you won't get a Wii because you have friggin LCDs please man you are so fake stop pretending to want a Wii man. If you are really want a Wii then get one if you have a DLP TV. I mean damn! Some of you guys are so backwards. I lash out at every one thats what I do I'm not your moma so when you say stupid stuff i tell you. Get A DLP and stop buying Tvs from walmart! LOL I don't have an xbox exactly for that reason... It's old tech with even more boring sequels that i really didn't like. If I do get an xbox it will be for good games I actually like. Other wise I've already built a direct x 10 gaming rig yet all I do is work on it right now expect playing some olders game at insanely high frame rates...LOL!

Oyeah sorry about the fool thing I was just playing but really my cheapest TV and probably better value is a samsung with DLP I got a PC running 1200 by what ever and a Wii on it... Looks fine to me and thats even with regular old RCA AV cables...LOL My PC uses the VGA port. Pioneer is in the living room I love their stuff! And you'll never know where I live cuz getting robbed is not cool at all...LOL

Runna

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> ok .. i'm sorry .. but i have to agree with him. I finally got a chance to play a Wii the other day thinking "Ok .. this is the point where i totally flip opinions.. go sell some old ps2 and a ps3 game and buy a wii ... shit.." and so i sit down and run through all the wii sports and the DBZ game ... cause it was the most action style game and i didn't have to flip fuggin burgers ...

I'm sorry ... but why do people think this machine is fun? Sure it took me a bit to figure out the controls on Budakai but getting pummeled isn't that big of a deal when you are just learning ... but i honestly had more fun laughing at my friend that was playing the game jumping around than actually PLAYING THE GAME.....

So now .. seriously .. i want to know ... why is it that this thing sells? Cost? is the whole freakin world really THAT poor these days?? Do you really have that much fun with it? how?? WHY???

i dunno. I walk away convinced my original opinion was the correct one. this is a little kids gimmick machine that will fade away in a matter of years instead of 5 or 10 years like the reigning king. Color me un-impressed.

"when i was a child .. i did childish things..... " the duke would handily beat the ass of everyone that owns one of these things. I can feel it.

silkysm00th

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> Its a pity that all people talking about Sega inavility since third party for making good and creative games, dont go beyond Sonic (or dont know beyond Sonic or any other furry game).

I know it is just becasue you are bitter, but if you are really talking serious...

...buy Crush for Christ sake!. If not you are going to use Crush for trolling five years in the future about Sega inability on making good and creative games since Crush. That you'll do, no matter what.

There is no point on defending at heart the necesity of the creative nature of wii while deliberately avoiding the creative nature of anything else.

Muesli

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> "I am a little concerned about the creative depth of the Wii pool. I'm not sure if they will top out in 2008 or 2007."

I bet he tought the same about the DS well look where it is now. Don't ditch something because it doesn't have the latest technology...oh Sega when will you learn.... hope they put Sonic in brawl just to kick his a** with Mario...LOL

vamp07

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> I dont see why SEGA's complaining about this. Their games suck anyways.

Dr. Snuggle Bunny

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> @Runna: If you aren't upset you wouldn't be lashing out and calling me a fool... You sound just like a xbox fanboy when Square came out and said no FF 13 for the 360. boohoo! I guess Square doesn't like money! *runs home and cries*. Wii owners are becoming like an anti-technology cult. We have 2002 graphics and thats the way we like it damn it! Either that or like I said previously, you guys got suckered and are just to proud to admit it.

crck

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> Uh, Mr. Steinberg? What are all those people outside your window?

"Oh pay no attention to them. They're just gamers and our fans screaming out good ideas at us. They're meaningless."

shoutanenjeru

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> Perhaps Sega's inability to conjure creative ideas outside of the hardware arms race is why they went from their past glory to a mediocre 3rd party.

msondokat

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> where is this hype. Hype is "all I want for christmas is a psp". Hype is "we want you to save and work extra hours for ps3!" Nintendo seldom trucks with hype. Nintendo is all about BUZZ, which is different from hype. Buzz is created when people talk to others about your project after trying it for themselves. Hype is created when people talk to others about your project after hearing you talk about your project. Shiggy vs. Spielberg Wii Tennis at E3? that's BUZZ. Nintendo almost did too good a job; "z0mg teh wii is the MESSIAH OF GAMING that will have NO PROBLEMS of ANY OTHER VIDEO-GAME SYSTEM" and when the first year, with software slow in coming, just like every other software platform going back to the NES, the chorus of people who believed that the wii would magically solve the problem of software development and everything else wrong with video-games recanting and declaring they'd been duped by "hype" can be heard far and wide.

Anyone defending this guy's statements; are you high? like, you can agree with him and you're wrong for different reasons, but why in god's name would the marketing director for a software corporation put on blast the platform one of sega's most important properties is making his next appearence--maybe this is some sort of viral marketing for mario vs sonic...

Software drought ain't nothin' new. Ain't a sign of SHIT, and you'd know this if you bought a DS at launch. Ya'll be too busy to come back at me for playing Galaxy come fall.

StratfordX

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> @Northernsky: Making money to pay for their hooker addiction! that reminds me I do have work to do... Freedom is a very bad thing! Maybe Kotaku should release a game on blueray and the other systems also! It's called the kotaku portal and all they would have to do is put a link to their web page on their since all the system have online support. The ultimid goal would be to get comments in multi tap! Oh man would Matt over at IGN be so mad at you guys as you would clear 100,000 or more disk a day!

Runna

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> @lordofsword: No thats not the only reason... guess what Wii owners are more exceptable to 2d graphics in a good resolution and dev cost is just right. The Wii is a way better platform to use to try out new franchises or new twist on old franchise. Plus too you can even have any type of control you want. If you can get res evil graphic then you home free as every loved those graphics. There is a middle ground for good graphics and affordable set ups. Once you get there you need good game play.

Every one against the Wii ignores this and if you are trying to make money in this industry then it's almost like you like paying out movie budgets just to prove who is bigger...LOL

It's funny but HD really is turning out to be a fad cuz every one claim it should be cheaper just paid over 1200 for a good HD tv. So sony is look at you and saying you cheap bastards! LOL

Runna

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> He'll be fired before the end of the cycle.
Sega's not gonna jinx the game at this stage in the game.
Employee review will allow Sega-Sammy to separate the wheat from the chaff.
John Lucas

johnlucas

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> @crck: No one is upset... go read your sale figure fool.

I really tired of this thinking in the industry and it's getting really boring. People want games and I love gaming. I see what they are trying to do but you guys fail to see it has any thing to do with gaming. He is saying this so investor don't get together and firer his ass...

Like I said heads will roll because there is money to be made here. The HD money train is going to end just like the WEB bubble. If happend to neo geo it happened to 3do, and to a weird extent the dream cast and the xbox. All great systems yet they where all crushed by sales numbers. Pcs can afford this faith as they have always been the back seat to consoles.

Runna

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> I can't believe that so few people have commented on the disturbingly hot picture...

Where are the testosterone fueled Kotaku commenters I used to know?

Northernsky

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> When did this become Runna's blog?

A-Rude-Hero

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> @Imaria: I know right. It's like they are pissed because they have to make new game now. The sequel thing just won't work or is it the publisher fault? I would like to work for a pub just one day to see the bull crap they are feed. these companies should be banking so HARD right now. Actually screaming mini game is actually putting down your profession...LOL

The only different your mini game takes long or has more rounds. I wonder why atari games where not called mini games? What about the NEs mini games? Really... a lot of companies are going to go down this year and next with this type of thinking. the smart one will use the PC as a life line.

Runna

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> @Darthvinder: your also right when did adding a new control method as standard ruin game play when the older generation of gamers calling them selves hard core didn't want to adapt. You could say I'm one of them yet I love golden eye on the N64 after that anolog was nerver really done all that great since I hate the PS2's anolog and the xbox 360 is just ok. Yet for some reason that trihher on the bottom made the analog some much better on the N64.

Runna

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> Why are wii owners so upset? This guy is just telling it like it is. If you wanna be mad at someone be mad at Nintendo for suckering you guys into buying a gamecube with "flick a stick" controls. Hype is a bitch and you guys just got owned by it.

crck

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> @hobob: That attractive ass is totally fake and that dress just make it look bigger... Don't believe the hype...LOL Or ass that is.

@Muesli: Also too the Wii mote was actually designed to slap developer that lack Zoe Mode development skill and hopefully this is no one hit wonder as I'm not really fimialar with any thing else they made.

It's always been about game play but the remote adds some thing else. it also welcomes players of certain types and to people who can actually use it the remote is only second to my mouse gaming wise in 3d that is.

Runna

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> Whatever. The Sega output for the wii has been of dubious quality (would it break your fucking hearts to port REZ? how long would that take, like a week?)and what all these "yeah but in 2 years wrist control ROFLCopter" people are forgetting is the installed user base and how much dramatically cheaper it will be to make third generation Wii titles than it will be third generation HD console titles (screw this "next gen" nonsense, I'm not strapping anything to my head and wearing power gloves, it's not next gen it's HD) and that there will always be a segment of the gaming public who refuse to spend 300 dollars on a video game when a majority of the console owners this generation bought in at the 199/149 price point. the wii is going to get there a hell of a lot faster than either HD console. IF sega want me putting down 60 on a new sonic title with awful 3d platforming, they're going home alone tonight--but anyone who is game most likely will be buying a used copy from gamestop that's been resold thrice already, tidily locking sega out the revenue loop. If Sega want me putting down say 10 to 15 for a new spriteporn 2D sonic with wiimote support, that's lining their coffers with unfiltered profit.

StratfordX

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> @Zim:

thank god somebody sees this.

"But how much value can developers and creative folks get out of this wrist motion two years from now, or 5 years from now, or 10 years from now? How can they design products that aren't too derivative of what's already out there?"

He's exactly right, the products may not be derivative AT ALL. But guess what, nobody fucking cares. Ok, so analog sticks, I may have my history wrong with this, but suppose the N64 was first (I dunno), well it's been 11 years, more than 5 or 10 years, and people still use them. Wait wait wait, there's more. Not only do we still use an analog stick, people liked them so much that 6 consoles have used TWO analog sticks. HOLY FUCKING SHIT THIS IS A REVELATION LADIES AND GENTLEMENS. I don't even have the time to get started on buttons, but yeah. Sega fucked up. Big time. Don't think they can just go crying back to Nintendo, I'm sure they saw these comments.

Darthvinder

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> @Cellien: Get a DLP tv fool My wii looks just fine Damn! Get over it hey better yet buy a xbox 360. I got no jaggies at all red steel looks great even surprisingly good. Hey no one told you to get the cheap brands.

Runna

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> Sega's comments are merely amusing. This coming from a company who really didn't achieve anything with their consoles nor their recent games.

I really don't understand why Sega always makes the wrong decisions. Firstly their design for all 3D Sonic games are really mediocre. Sonic has become a joke in the gaming industry. The only thing Sega is good at is launching Sonic games during a console releases, cause regardless of how bad it the game is, it'll still sell.

And their biggest blunder, Dreamcast.
I loved that console a lot, but the timing was just horrible. Approximately a year later the PS2 was released which sort of buried the console.

Again bad decisions by Sega. I think it's high time that the Sega execs. should just learn to stop talking big. They are not a major gaming company anymore. So no matter what they say, people would hardly listen to them.

otakufaisal

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> Is pretty ironic that Zoe Mode's "Crush" (incidentally produced by Sega) is far more creative and good than any game on wii at present. Even been launched in a console with clunky controls, it deliberately obliterate all slogans, concepts and executions about wiimote been the saviour of the industry.

Also, for being loyal to Sega roots, no one is buying it but every one will cry for it in the future.


Muesli

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> One funny thing I don't think you guys realize is the new comers really like these games. I mean really they play them like friggin solitar. These are actualy games that should have full games and different setting. I'm talking about stuff like Pool, poker, fishing, hunting, bowling, water sports, hand gliding (real hang gliding like pilot wings) hell even if they made a sim garden with gardening tips people would buy it and love it. These are games these people really do play yet no one really gets out any more and gas prices are pretty high too. Really all these games need is a club like or either a high tech design to them.

Also too any one addicted to skill based gaming will love the Wii. You have to figure out if you are a skill based gamer or a button masher hoping for save points. Really if you have two systems then why even complain about the Wii you have game to play right? Well just know if there is ever a Wii base game in a tourney that involve skill I'll be there ready to kick your ass believe that! Be glad there is not online yet. The Wii is the closes thing in console to my mouse a first favorite video game controller. It takes a different type of coordination and no I don't play standing up.

First you complain it's too easy then you complain it's not accurate. I'll show you accurate...LOL you just wait! Noobz I had to say it just had to!

Runna

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> for the ps3.

hobob

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> Judging by this picture and interview snippet, I can only assume Sega has plans to develop a game about a whore from the 19th century with a large and attractive deriere

hobob

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> Gotta say.. I kinda agree with him about the Wii. Its cool now, but the ONE reason I haven't pursued purchasing one is that its not in HD.. I have 3 LCD HDTVs and it bothers me the Wii doesn't output at least 720p.

We have one at work for "research"' and its fun to tinker with. I just don't see its tech standing up the test of time being a re-tooled Gamecube.

Cellien

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> @Gremory: Actually out of the FPS i've played it was incredible for the Ai to actually hide so well I couldn't find them till they where shotting me in the face. then on top of that they would actually flank me pretty well. How come Gears of war is the only game where I've seen to be a big then in the game play? Every one always talks about AI but really there is no such thing as a affordable AI that uses brute force.

These guys need to learn game design again. Had red steel got the aiming right and maybe some online ubisoft would be on their way and we would have got a flood of tom clancy crap...LOL

Runna

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> Everyone keeps saying "In 3 years the graphics will be dated and people will turn to the new lower priced 360/PS3."

But, let's take a moment and really think about that. If it takes 3 years for the Wii "fad" to wear off, Sony and MS can just kiss this gen good-bye. Any one who has been in gaming or the gaming culture knows it is a positive feed back industry. The console that sells the most at the beginning gets the most games, the console with the most games in turn sells more consoles.

That is the way it has always worked.

In 3 years, Sony and MS will be so far behind Nintendo, even if the buying public does a complete turnaround in buying habits, developers are still going to be focused on the Wii, because it will ahve the largest user base.

For those who say that after Christmas the fad will stop, because casuals won't care anymore. I disagree. For the casual and non-gamers $250 is a lot of money, not an impulse when it comes to gaming. They aren't going to spend a day locked away with only a six pack of jolt, a basket os sandwiches, and their console. They aren't interested in memorizing the 27 button combo for invisabilty. They want fun games that can kill and hour or two on weekends or rainy days.

Even if you don't like the Wii's "waggle," no one, who isn't in complete denial, can say it is a gimick or a novelty. If that were the case the Wii won't be selling out every shippment, and won't be so hard to find 6 months after release.

Wii won this generation, suck it up and deal with it.

EmeraldDragon

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> It doesn't seem to make sense as a developer to give up on the Wii just yet. Strike while the iron's hot. Jump ship when it starts to sink. Unless you feel that Wii failure is absolutely imminent, why burn the bridges now? Game players don't really care about the technical potential of a system as long as there are games that are interesting or fun. Vide games are not necessarily about mimicking a hollywood film, or about pushing the system's potential to the limit. Last generation, the console on top was the PS2, guts-wise the weakest of the three, but strongest perhaps when it comes to games.

And even more important, why announce publicly to burn bridges? It seems unwise to do so, because if you get it wrong, you will be a laughing stock on par with the "Daikatana" "make you his bitch" line.

Just in general, it seems that people in the industry need to hold their tongues, because it seems a lot of them nowadays end up eating their words and with egg on their faces.

Question: How many cliches did I use there?

onikuwagata

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> What is dated about being able to move close to the screen? What is dated about actually perfecting a move rather than pressing the button for that move.

There may be mini games but wake up out of the matrix kid even your epics are glorified mini games! Gaming has always been a mini game they simply added weak stories mixed with sci-fi or trolls and you guys love it. That cool and all but it's like you guys really believe in the episodic gaming experience and don't even realize it. Gaming is like your soap opera or some thing. If spike TV was a game you would love it wounldn't you!

I don't know I think a few of you got your hobbies mixed up and developers are totaly confused about the signals you are sending. Your other friends won't get a PS3 cuz it cost too much yet thats the only console people think should be home to so called hardcore games. WOW if you guys keep this up then the PS3 will surely fail... I mean where are developers going to get the 20 million to make these game if you aren't hardcore enough to go and get a PS3?

Some thing has got to give? You won't get a PC becuase it cost too much and you won't learn how to use a Wii mote... when does the industry began to say F- you.. really? I now if you have a Wii and your trying to get good at it with just party games then thats your own fault...LOL

To play foot ball you need a field not a bathroom... get out there and try some more games out, they are actually fun and if you have beat all of them already then you may have a right to complain if not you should be quiet or either you should stop lieing as if you have madden and your such a man;y man then you should be happy till 08 comes out...LOL

Runna

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> @lordofsword:
There's a few incentives to developing for the Wii over the 360 or especially the PS3, even with traditional games. Besides the fact that it has a very quickly growing user base, the development software is apparently pretty damn good (unlike the PS3's). This may reduce development overhead, meaning that the cost of making software may be lower than it would be for other systems. Though its graphics aren't amazing, they're serviceable and, for 2D games, the hardware is more than enough to handle sprites and whatnot.

maikeru

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> This coming from the company who created the game with the worst motion controls I have ever played on the Wii. Trying to make Sonic jump and attack enemies gave people the impression I was having an epileptic seizure, heck I probably would have been better at the game if I had.

susurrate

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> @NoBullet: Thats the problem he actualy works there yet has no control over his own lively hood meaing he really doesn't have faith that sega can keep making innovative game and from his point of view sega is big time cuz he work for them yet if he worked at nintendo he would be like sweet more money and they love us!

Why or the US dev house in the state simply localization campes with PR- robots. Robots need love yall!

Runna

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> @majortom1981: You really want a 3 year console cycle?

A-Rude-Hero

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> Considering his position, this is an opinion that would probably be better left unsaid.

However, I agree 100%.

Yes, the Wii's graphics will look dated. Frankly, they already look a bit dated. That's okay, graphics aren't the be all end all. However, it's hardware in general will also be dated. Hardware accounts for a lot more than graphics; AI, physics, amount of detail on screen, number of characters on screen, etc., etc..

The real problem is that the gameplay also stands to get dated, as he mentioned. The creative depth of the Wii only goes as far as a couple of motion detecting controllers will get you. Already, you can see that a large portion of Wii games fall into generic categories; minigame collections, sports games, and so on.


When you factor in dated hardware and stale gameplay, there is no reason for a developer to choose that console over one with better hardware, even if the gameplay isn't innovative. If you're not planning on using a motion sensing feature, than the PS3 and 360 offer much more possiblity, not only in terms of graphics, but in terms of things that actually have an effect on gameplay.

I know that many people (Wii fanboys, at least), quickly jump to accuse hardware of only being good for graphics, which is utter BS. Compare the sophistication of a game like Metal Gear Solid with Metal Gear Solid 2 or 3. MGS3 couldn't have been done on the PS1. MGS4 stands to be extremely sophisticated, with a level of depth in the game world that has yet to be seen in games, and incredibly sophisticated AI, physics, destructible environments, to name a few. Even MGS4's ability to render multiple locations at the same time (as seen in the trailer in which both locations of the 'codec' conversation were being rendered in real time, in full) opens up a number of possibilities.

Suzaku

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> @V1L3: I see your point about the HD stuff yet I'm in the camp that HD is not really needed. Sharp graphics can be done in normal resolutions. The HD stuff is needed for FPS where you have to see the enemy thats actually too far away. It's funny but HD's secret weapon is really in good 2d art. Why do I say this.. well that what made the neo geo and all the other high end 2d systems cool. The 2d art just looked way better. Truthfully 3d in it's current state has actualy put the industry in a bad state where people are getting left behind because of cause and because of taste. The developer decide if the industry is polarized are not. Believe me if it rocks and it's hardcore it will sell that same way it did on the PS2 and one.

I mean really if god of war never came out on the PS2 and suddently popped up on the Wii it would totally crush at least nintendos first party sales for a while , if metal gear first appeared on the Wii it would do the same. Really it's like putting the wolf among the sheep yet most developers seem to have an nintendo inferiority complex and can't see to get it together and are really betting on HD and normal maps...LOL

Runna

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> Why hasn't Sega merged with nintendo? That's the only 'questioning' Sega should be doing.

jive238

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> also regarding the Wii as i currently do own one and rarely use it...

Judging from my own experiences with the system, Sega and a lot of people posting here have a very, very valid point about its future.

I'm really not looking forward to any Wii games, but am actually thinking about games coming out on a system I don't even own yet (the PS3).

BigChiefSmokem

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> Dear Sega,

what happened man? You used to be cool.

I stayed loyal to you, even after the death of the dreamcast (bought it opening day 9/9/99), and stayed away from all other systems skipping a whole generation. This was because I loved your innovations (Dreamcast: funky controls with little vmu, built in modem).

This is why I bought the wii, because it was different and innovative. So why are you guys against innovation? Do you still hold a grudge against nintendo? Come on guys, Sony was the reason you truely met your demise.

Also can you please please make a wii Samba de Amigo game! Also, dont mess up the Nights game, it was my childhood.

From,
Ken

Kenoji

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> There is only so many times I can say this. Nintendo is in a great position. They are making a profit from day one on the wii.

In 3 years when the wii looks dated they can just introduce a new system . They can do this because they made a profit from day one.

So people should stop doubting the wii. Nintendo is in the best position of the 3.

majortom1981

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> Saddly this guy is no better than patch since he really has no say so in his own future as the US produces no top quality games at all. Right now the US's strong hold is hopping for the hi resolution moddelers to save their non-game making asses. Thats cool cuz money is good... It's like people getting mad because their mini game sucks and people like nintendo's...LOL Well fool nintendo doesn't make shinobi! Hell if temco can make a good ninja game who come you can't? And where the hell is the arcade groups! Did every one leave WTF!

@Burguois: It only stops being a fad when you realize you are going to settle down and learn how to use the new control. There are two type of people screaming fad people who can't use the controls and developers and such who want you to ignore the new controls.

Every one else is having fun except sega of course... Really man where is the talent over there?

Runna

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> Let them go to PS3.

Let them make a "Sonic the Hedgehog". The one that came to the 360.

Sony will return it (Sega) to the store like a cocker spaniel that can't be house-broken, and goes every 30 seconds.

THEN...

Sega: We feel that PS3 just isn't breaking the pool in enough, so we're eying *closes eyes and spins around and points* THAT console!

The only good 3D Sonic I've played (I haven't played Sonic and the Secret Rings, so bear with me) would be Sonic Adventure 2: Battle for GC. That's right, I said it. Doing the stuff with the Chao was fun and addictive for me and my brother.

Mesren_Makai

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> I have to say I agree with him. The Wii is getting nothing but shitty mini-games or just bad games. I feel that by the time Nintendo shows people that more can be done with the Wii, developers will have epic games lined up for the rest of the consoles and it will be too late.

I am not hating on Nintendo. In fact I actually own all three consoles. It's just that what he is saying makes a lot of sense.

Everyone's right though. All of this coming from the mouth of Sega is f***ing crazy. I would expect something like this from Itagaki :D.

ReVivAL

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> Sega has been making horrible decisions since the genesis era ended. No surprise here.

splotki

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> seeing as i'm going to own a PS3 soon, this is great news for me

BigChiefSmokem

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> Developers should push the Wii to it's full potential. Gameplay wise.

†ЙОSЧЭЯДТЦ†

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> Wow, this is really bad news for Sony.

This is akin to a leper recommending a good place to get a facial.

slaughteredewok

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> @Dargakis434:
HD tv is nothing special. Imagine all the MIDDLE end computer monitors in the world. Made bigger, pricing it $1000.

I like your logic!

charsuipau

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> @quen:
What??? Nintendos strategy is to make money, lots of money. The End.

†ЙОSЧЭЯДТЦ†

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> First off I checked the original article and all I can say is, well, it sucked. LOL, Kotaku actual posted the majority of the article here from what I saw. Without a longer interview I'd say it was relatively un-newsworthy for Reuters (not neccesariliy so for Kotaku).

To be honest, I own a Wii, I enjoy it. It can be good fun. To be completely honest though I haven't felt compelled to buy a 3rd party title since red steel and trauma center when I bought the damn thing.

Yes, Nintendo has brought in a new group of casual gamers who never before may have bought a console. But, I can easily see this changing in the next year or so. Remember the Furby doll? Was all the rage one year, people killing each other in stores to get it for Christmas? Next year, no one cared. Tickle me Elmo, Cabbage patch, etc. etc. etc. This is what happens with the "non-hardcore" audience.

So basically, in the next couple years, I'd say the Wii will still have the fans, but not nearly in the numbers as now. It will end up being the stalwart Nintendo fans. The casuals will move on to something else, and the "hardcore" will remain.

And as far as the guy being a nutter for saying what he said considering his position, I'd disagree. But then again I've never been one big on pandering. He said what he currently sees going on in the situation. And at least for the moment I'd say he's correct. Unless we start seeing some crazy shit churned out for the Wii, I'm gonna say alot of people are gonna get tired of it. Developers are going to get tired of trying to change the controls just enough to be "innovative" for innovation's sake, and consumers are going to get tired of making the same weird repetitive motions. (Again, believe it or not I don't care, I really like Wii and enjoy the motion controls myself) Alot of the "casuals" probably won't want to keep doing the motion stuff for games.

Yes, button mashing is repetitive too, BUT it's EASY. It's stood the test of time because alot of people want to sit on their ass and veg while playing a game. You have to have more motivation to play a Wii game with motion vs a button press game.

And no you don't HAVE to make a game with motion controls. You can make a regular game, but at that point you may as well go multi-platform to pull in the most money you can. Granted just developing on Wii probably is much cheaper.

Anyways to end a long rant:
I love my Wii
I see the guys point
I think he's justified, even in his position (especially in his position)
I never want to meet an angry Nintendo fanboy in a dark alley

My prediction for the whole stupid "war" remains
1st PS3/Wii
3rd X360
All very close though. A clear winner will be nigh impossible I think.

A-Rude-Hero

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> I'm Mr. Burns, blah blah blah, I'm Mr. Burns, blah blah blah.

xerus`

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> @lordofsword: These programs you speak of wouldn't existed in its current form or at all if the mouse hadn't come into existance the way it was. Also never claimed motion sensing concept was new. But then neither was the mouse new. It was first developed in 1964.
It took more than 2 decades before it was refined into what it is today.

As for failures in peripherals, I wasn't trying to claim the wiimote would end up like the mouse, it could quite well fail. Was trying to show how you can't just judge something as a novelty just because its not the norm. As i said in another post I don't know whether the wiimote will become another hula hoop, or end up as a mouse, but writing it off as a novelty just because its not the norm is wrong. Something doesn't become a novelty until it becomes a novelty, and certain things that were a novelty can sometimes on occasions be upgraded out of that status into the norm.

Its both a motion sensor and a pointer, a pointing device isn't new either, but does that matter?

Also yes the wiimote is like another way to control a game, which a controller could do. But easily is subjective. There are things that the wiimote can do for gaming that will make it easier control wise than a normal gamepad, but not everything will be made easier, some will be made harder. At the same time it will also introduce new things which couldn't be done with a gamepad into console gaming, i.e. expanding the kind of games that can now be run and played on a console that wouldn't have been fun with just a gamepad.

charsuipau

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> @S.Steinberg:
"I am a little concerned about the creative depth of the Wii pool. I'm not sure if they will top out in 2008 or 2007."

Perhaps he means the current creativity of the developers for the Wii? In my opinion, I think he's right, and the system seems to be taking on way too many minigames or ports.

StupidDufus

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> ya like sega know how to win console wars..

bigsamboni

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> I support everything the guy said about the Wii.

justhesh

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> @KaneRobot:
The 360 is hardly "solid hardware", it's a big pile of malfunctioning crap. Microsoft is just making it worse by refusing to acknowledge that they are putting together inferior products. Now don't get me wrong I have a 360 and love the games for it, but right now it's collecting dust b/c I refuse to pay $150 to get it fixed a year and a half after I paid $499 for it.

charman

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> Is Sega jealous the Nintendo's Dreamcast hardware is selling better than theirs did over 5 years ago?

Note to Sega: You lost remember? It's not NintenDONT anymore, it's NintenDOES. As in NintenDOES pwn your development team, look what's become of Mario and what's become of Sonic.

ggnorethx

x999x

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> @PlaidNinja:

That's not fair, what about the Game Gear, the Pico and the SC-3000? Sega has their finger on the pulse. That's why they went bust.

floppylobster

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> What the hell has Ape Escape got to do with the introduction of Analog sticks? I think you're talking about Mario 64 right?

But anyway, I had my doubts that the Wii might be a fad, but these days I can't help but feel the addiction of using the controller as a motion sensor. Sitting still with the contoller in my hand just doesn't hold the same appeal anymore. It's like going back to a GBA after using the stylus on the DS.

floppylobster

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> Well the creators of the Sega CD and 32X would know all about making bad hardware decisions.

PlaidNinja

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> yeah i think people thoguht the same about the ds vs. the psp. Just wait about a year until all those publishers/developers who came the the realisation that the wii got a lot of mainstream appeal, get all their whacky games out, as happened to the ds after an intense drought ^-^

pillow

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> Nintendo, please buy Sega out, reign them in, and get them back to making good Sonic games.

Sabre_Justice: Okay, no more long name.

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> Well Sega and Nintendo aren't exactly known to be good friends :) He has a valid point, but his excuse is flawed -.-

nardsy

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> Sweet, more Nintendo bias. Just what I'd expect from Kotaku. *yawn*

I agree that the VP of Marketing shouldn't be saying things like this, but I suppose he found it difficult to lie through his teeth when asked his opinion on the Wii.

Like the DS, developers don't have to be creative with the Wii controls, but you can bet they will be judged more harshly because of it. Also, the PS3 does have more potential than the Wii because it has more power and more disc space than the Wii, period.

It's sad that this happened, but Sega makes their money from the arcade sector, so they're fine whether Nintendo separates from them or not.

Do Kesubei

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> I just wanted to come in and say a couple things:

1) I have made no secret about my personal dislike of the Wii. I think it's a gimmick that was tacked onto a Gamecube with a new case. They could have just as easily released a peripheral, but that would have looked bad at E3 that year as the only major company NOT to have a console.

2) I think eventually, people will get bored with the novelty of "waggle" and the dedicated will move on to bigger and better systems. The casual market that has been so touted so far won't matter, because game companies make most of their money from game licensing. As casual gamers only buy one or two games a year, their market share will come mostly irrelevant.

3) That picture is hot. Looks like Salma Hayek in Wild Wild West. She was arguably the only good part of that movie.

PapaBear434

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> I'm SICK of hearing "crap" and "dated". It's ANOTHER system, that CANNOT be compared with any other. I mean: It's not on the same league. I peed when first played Gears of War, in a kiosk. But I peed all the way through Zelda: Windwaker. None can say GoW graphics are better than Zelda's. I'ts like saying "Clint Eastwood it's better actor than Charlie Chaplin".

The first gameboy had "crap" graphics. The Lynx had a color screen, for gods sake! Also did the SEGA And the GB pwned. I don't mind that even the Pope says It's going to be dated. I disagree. And the graphics? Besides the GB, graphics on first PCs sucked (CGA anyone?), compared to that of the Amiga, for example. PCs won.

So, SEGA, EA, whatever, even Nintendo: *DESIGN* and DO games *FOR* the Wii. And the Wii, and it's crappy graphics will never be dated.

BTW, I have a Wii (mostly good GC games), and I plan to buy a 360 this weekend (If I quit smoking :D). And I'm sure I will pee all the way. I'm biased towards Nin, and against MS, for several other reasons... but I always try to be objetive.

Afterall, they ALL are after our money. If they can earn 10, will not drop 2 for other reason than earning 4 more tomorrow.

pepote

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> Luke, buddy, if you weren't such a fanboy, you would see that the guy has a point. Maybe not a view that you share, but a solid point.
I mean, think about it: How exact are the controls on the Wii? And be honest. How precisely can you manipulate you wrist to play a game like, oh... Tetris? Not very precise, are they? I would say that an above average player can achieve 90-95% accuracy with the Wii remote, but even the most steady-wristed among us shouldn't be handling virtual Uranium with a Wii remote. I've said it before, and I'll say it again: The Wii remote is borderline gimmick at best.
So already, from square one, developers are working with an imperfect science. And I'm sure this realization is evident in the amount of quality 3rd party games available. If I were a developer, and I wanted to make good money, I would think, "Well shit, let's just develop for the Wii. The development will be relatively easy, the graphics are simple, and it's all the rage with the kids these days. Only thing is, it can't use controls that require precision... so let's just make a cutesy game that uses it to, like, flag down a taxi cab or something."
Transversely, if I were a developer that wanted to make good games, I would see how limited the medium (DVD), controls, and graphics are on the Wii, and also the lack of a HDD, and realize that if I wanted to compete with a series like Metal Gear Solid or Grand Theft Auto, I better start looking for greener pastures.
Now that isn't to say that the Wii is a bad system; I own one, I love it, it's good fun. But the Wii has it's place in the videogame industry, which is different that the Xbox 360 and the PlayStation 3. The Wii simply isn't in the same class, and needs to stop being viewed as such. The Wii has already reached all it's limitations, with the exception of "new ways to use that zany controller!", whereas developers are contstantly discovering ways to push the envelope in every way on the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3.
So for Sega to say, "Maaaaybe the Wii isn't the pony to bet all your chips on for the long haul," makes sense, and probably isn't as "fucking, needlessly nuts," as you might think.
Of course, that would hurt your dreams of seeing the Wii dominate all consoles mercilessly, the Xbox 360 coming in at a not-too-distant second, and the PlayStation 3 failing horribly. That's just a guess, though, I don't get any kind of biased vibe from your articles. Very objective, they are.

jtyson

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> @charsuipau: The mouse is practically necessary for a lot of things, some programs you literally couldn't use without one. Motion sensing isn't new, and is just a different way of doing something a controller can just as easily do. You also can't just pick out one successful peripheral from a history of dozens of failures, including a more apt comparison - motion sensing mice.

lordofsword

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> @DarkNight_DS: yeah i meant used as an interface, meant more about the console interface as opposed to the graphical interface. yes yes linux and alot of things have console interfaces, but the majority of the worlds computers and every day personal use, use mouse and keyboard.

Yeah Dos was a bad example, but was trying to highlight how if the mouse specifically hadn't appeared, the worlds personal desktop users still might be just using cd:/, cd..,copy .... ,move ... etc as opposed to click click click click. Heck took me 2 - 3 years before i moved away from DOS after the introduction of the mouse and the windowed gui.

oh, and I don't know whether the wiimote will be as successful as the mouse, analog stick etc or just end up being a hula hoop. Just saying theres just as many arguments as to why it might be a novelty as why it might not be.

Although saying that i'm pretty certain the japanese market will ensure the Wii will pretty much rule Japan along side the DS, they seem to be be in long term love of this new gaming experience thing. Rest of the world who knows.

charsuipau

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> @FinalSin:

While I respect your opinion, I must point out that the kind og come back you are talking about has never happened in the gaming industry. The one with the best launch has always won -- though not always in the untter domination the PS2 exhibited.

The Wii is breaking sales records left anf right, while the PS3 is doing good just to keep it's head above water. This generation has already been decided, it's time people accepted that.

EmeraldDragon

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> Anyone else remember Ape Escape? I kept thinking Analog sticks were a crappy fad that would never go anywhere. How wrong were we.

It will remain a "fad" only for as long as people consider it such. At the moment developers are just throwing shit at a wall and seeing what sticks. When people start making games that utilize the pretty unique controls to the best they can be used, I doubt it will be considered the same.

Burguois, Teabagger of Olde

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> Boy, I wish back when I was at school that Nintendo fans were so easy to rile up.

Seriously, did it occur to any of you that this guy is dishing out his opinion because someone - I don't know... Asked him what he thought?

It's enough that he's not allowed to have his own opinion, but when you start taking his words out of context, you're just showing how little you actually care about the subject.

When he says that he's concerned that it'll become difficult to release games that aren't "derivative," he's saying "Okay, great, you're releasing a racing game with tilt controls, just like Excite Truck. Or a minigame compilation, like Warioware."

Sure, the DS is doing great, but is it because every DS game is a glorious and innovative experience? How many Nintendogs clones have their been? Brain Age clones? And how old are those games?

Graphics and gameplay are not mutually exclusive, and it disturbs me that there are so many people who are perfectly willing to ignore one type of new technology (motion sensing) in favour of others (camera motion tracking, advanced physics/AI, etc.)

We should be pressuring each company to make the most of the technology available because it all pushes gaming forward, both in terms of entertainment and artistic value.

Criticize Sony for neglecting rumble. Chastise Microsoft for 360 failure rates. But don't laud Nintendo for ignoring HD. Tolerate it, absolutely... but don't praise them for it.

V1L3

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> @charsuipau: **COUGH** your DOS comment was a little silly, DOS still runs a lot of the most mission critical apps out there including your banking, shopping etc... but the rest I can agree with ;)

DarkNight_DS

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> Needlessly Nuts, that should be a new tag.

themunk

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> I agree. Historically, Nintendo consoles just don't have the endurance they once had (NES, SNES). I think the N64 cartridge format scared a number of devs off...and the format chugged a mere 3 years in. Same things with the Cube, and if history repeats itself...well...

I bought the Wii because I enjoy Nintendo-made games. Right now, however, the Wii takes a backseat to the limited releases the PS3 is currently getting (which is going to change), and the occasional 360 game I just have to have. Not to mention titles like Bioshock and Mass Effect are going to rule my system in a matter of months.

At any rate, no fault to him for being a little cautious when the rule of Nintendo home consoles is certainly not one of endurance. Perhaps he should choose his words carefully considering his public accessability, however...I agree with him wholeheartedely. Hell, we're seeing gimmicky implementation of the system and its control sets right now, not even a year into the lifecycle.

The Yam!

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> @Lost_Fable: "The Wii just introduces a new control scheme, in the future it's novelty will fade away"

Just like the mouse. That silly novelty faded away in to obscurity, and DOS rules the world. New control scheme's pff, who needs them, change is bad.

charsuipau

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> Athiest Jew Spew: "GAMING ISN'T ABOUT HARDWARE. GAMING IS ABOUT GAMEPLAY. HARDWARE IS IRRELEVANT."

How ignorant are you? What, if Reggie says it enough at press events, you take it as gospel? "Hardware is irrelevant?" What kind of hopeless idiot actually believes that nonsense?

What's really funny here is the Wii is only about hardware. The one "system-seller" to date has been a game released (arguably in superior/"correct" form) on the Gamecube at essentially the same time. You're classifying "hardware" as the graphic capabilities a system has, and that isn't an accurate definition. The only leg the Wii has to stand on is a hardware gimmick that, as yet, hasn't proven it has legs that will carry it beyond the "Ha ha! Girls think its fun too, so it sells quickly!" fad stage. You really think the Wii is going to be this strong for Christmas '08? Not if they stay on the same course they are on now. Hope that's not the case, since I foolishly bought one back in January. Unfortuately I haven't touched it since March.

Gaming is about BOTH hardware and gameplay. One without the other means the system is trash. If you disagree, well, I feel bad that you're missing out on why games are fun. It's funny, because the PS3 is actually in a similar boat: interesting hardware (in a different way, of course) and underwhelming software. If only there were a company that put out powerful hardware AND had a solid lineup of titles...oh, wait. That's the 360.

I am getting a laugh at the people saying "HA HA THIS IS WHY SEGA DOESN'T MAKE HARDWARE ANY MORE"...as if Scott F'ing Steinberg had a major hand in the fates of stuff like the 32X and Saturn.

KaneRobot

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> It's great business decisions like this that have made Sega the industry powerhouse it is today.


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I had a hard time even TYPING that with a straight face.

Century

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> Well, if Sega wants to stick to the PS3 that is their choice. I wish them luck, they are going to need it.

EmeraldDragon

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> Too bad Sega isn't dying...then they could sell out to Nintendo.
Then they could fire the douche.

Apparently this douche can't even see the 8 million folks buying the Wii.

ITR

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> Maybe sega likes losing >.> You know so they can be at the part and be all ''Hey nintendo, sony and MS you have had it easy you don't know what it likes to have been through what we went through. You guys are priveleged we are fighting for it.''

@Lost_Fable: Indeed just like analog sticks faded away >.>

Zim

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> AKA, "we hate money."

edgeblade

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> its not like sega has been putting out lately anyway.

FlapDangerous

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> Well he certainly is opinionated; and he is entitled to that opinion. But! Let me just say these 2 things. Dreamcast, and Sega Saturn. Didn't wanna say it, but I had to. I thought I was done making fun of Sega, but this guy had to mess with the Wii.

charman

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> The Wii just introduces a new control scheme, in the future it's novelty will fade away, and all there will be left are last-gen graphics.

Lost_Fable

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> @NoaAltwynn: Didn't Atari use Game Cube controlls in there Wii game and look what happened to them...

xpnet

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> forgot to mention the wii wasn't just a double in power of the console it was a change in gaming.

PS3 was a massive upgrade in power. i.e. upgraded graphics.

charsuipau

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> @lordofsword:

Developers have a big incentive to develop for the Wii: It's selling like hotcakes.

If developers only cared about technical prowess, then the XBox would have had all the games last generation, and the PS2 would have had none.

Marlor

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> I totally agree its about hardware.

But people confuse hardware with processing power, i.e. clock cycles, frame rates and screen resolution.

This concept that the wii will fail because in x years time, graphically, processor wise it will be weaker than its 'competitors' is rubbish. When has anything in the gaming industry ever 'failed' because it was supposedly 'underpowered'. Never.

Hardware isn't just about how much bigger my processor is than yours, its about what you can do with the hardware and affordability. Yes the jump from PS2 to PS3 processor wise is quite massive, and what is the benefit of that? well simply put its just a massive hardware upgrade. The jump from game cube to wii, is a respectable hardware upgrade (2x the power anyone, if my computer doubled in 'power' i'd be quite happy still).

Every generation they always claim the same thing at the start, console x will win because its capable of x amount of polygons compared to everyone else, ye hah. Guess what console x in every of those generations usually came last or close to last.

This VP opinion was very fanboyish considering, Sega's history of constantly losing to the 'weaker' console, or the 'limited' handheld, gamegear v Gameboy anyone. If anything that should have taught them something. People, not the minority of hardware enthusiast, buy a gaming platform based on affordability, practicality and the gaming experience. All its showned is why Sega has been a failing company, because they don't learn anything from their failures.

If anything his opinion, is flawed because you could quite simply say, why did sega ever bother creating consoles or games for consoles, since the PC has always far more powerful than a new console even before launch. If he reflects the belief of Sega in hardware processing power, then Sega should have only ever been a PC game developer, at least until the PS3 and Xbox360 came out.

charsuipau

]]> <![CDATA[Sega Doubts Wii, Hitches Skirt For PS3]]> @Duoae: 1) "You do NOT need to use motion control."

The motion controller is the only reason to develop for the