Sloopydrew

ferrarimanf355

but as it is.. i dont really care.

rumble is totally overrated.

most of the time i dont even notice it. and i have even played games where i preferred to turn the rumble off.

how many games have you played where the rumble was necessary.

almost none.

in my opinion the motion controls are WAY better.

if sony cant get the battery to last a long time, i say just forget about it.

if your going to do rumble.. do it differently somehow.

like.. how about a rumble body suit that lets you know EXACTLY where you got shot.

nah. i wouldnt want that either. it would look SO rediculous.

almost as rediculous as people look playing the wii.

joelface

I have 1 rechargeable battery, and the play + charge kit, that just connects the controller to ANY USB port and charges the battery, even while I'm playing. So I have a great, rumbly wireless controller most of the time, and a great rumbly controller with a cord a small fraction of the time.

That's what the PS3 controller should end up like if it gets rumble. (Except without the option to swap in a different batter if you want).

But frankly, I'd support rumble for the PS3 if only for the weight, seriously. The controller feels like I got it from a plastic egg from a gumball machine for pete's sake.

Jawajoey

Also, I am not very concerned about battery life when it comes to a rechargable controller. I have a big problem with the Wii and its battery munching. I am probably going to ask for a couple of rechargable packs from my wife for the holidays this year.

kingofallcosmos

skobar

krisb

krisb

My 360 pad has never had the rumble switched off and lasts more than long enough. It gives enough warning that I can simply pause and swap out the battery pack when needed. Maybe sony can simply add a battery pack to the new controller and a battery charger on the side.

Oh and Nintendo! Don't think you get off scott free! Where the heck is YOUR rechargeable battery pack?

penhalion

Bad battery life? Sounds familiar. Hey, Sony, anyone with a Wiimote is familiar with short battery life, so don't let that hold you back. Just pack in a sensibly long USB cable and we'll call it done, okay?

Agreed. To be fair though, long USB cables can be bought separately.

EliasAlucard

This is what you get for replacing your classic staple with half-arsed waggle.

Sabre_Justice: Okay, no more long name.

PBnZelly

YoRone22

@Papabear434: yeah man...I always charge the controller at my computer also, since I leave that on at all times.

I got 2 controllers now, wouldn't mind upgrading when the rumble comes out. Also pretty excited about time crisis4. I don't know why gun games are not popular, but I love gun games. Bought most of the gun games for the ps2, unfortunately some of the sorrier gun games also. I hope the pads on the guncon3 is good quality though. It has a lot of potential to be used in first person shooter games.

nxp3

If my controllers both run dead, I usually just plug it into my PC. Three hours gives me another month of use. Quite nice.

PapaBear434

@PapaBear434: yeah, youre not wrong there...been playing some of the warhawk beta today, moves nice but shit can it overcompensate on the light-ass sixaxis! we'll see.

15 hours is really a problem, people? seriously? just leaving your sytem on folding for like an hour and charging the controller, youll be fine.

TheIrishNinja

Runna

Action-Bastard

nxp3

"unproven"? Well in slo-mo's defense BRD is kicking DVD's ass in sales, it's backed by just about every major movie company and major manufacturer in existance, prices are just about even (if not lower) with more video features, and even 360 owners have been known to say that BRD's picture quality is better in HD than DVD. So unproven or not, BRD is here to stay. DVD had it's run, but just like VHS it had it's time in the sun and now it's time to move on to the next format

alucard_0007

About the Wireless: I've been running my PS3 on wireless since I bought it, and I am running (usually) a 32 man Warhawk server, full of people, with no one having pings over 200 (the average is around 100-120.)

I also have yet to have a lag issue with Resistance, Motorstorm, or Calling All Cars.

PapaBear434

We aren't "fanboys" and I really wish that term would disappear off the face of the planet. To many people use it to describe anyone who doesn't agree with them, and more often than not end up showing more signs of "fanboyism" than the person being accused.

We just simply got used to it. It's not something we are going to bemoan the return of, and I will be happy to see it back. But we just came to the realization that it wasn't a game-breaking feature.

PapaBear434

FP_slomo788

Funny, I don't remember buying an HD DVD drive. But then again I'm not dumb enough to buy an unproved video format that probbaly won't last 5 years. And I don't remeber buyinga wifi adapter...soince I prefer my online gameplay lagless. And since I stream my media, I barely ever use more than 5 gigs.

You were saying?

Marasai

Toasticus

What? No. Double As are great. Buy a big pack, switch them in when the old ones die. No having to play wired because you forgot to charge it, or it ran out in the middle of your session. No having to deal with the LiOn battery degrading to nothing over a year and a half.

To be honest, one of my biggest problems with the Sixaxis is that it doesn't support double as. I have no problem with the lack of rumble.

rateoforange

bernbaum

@Action-Bastard: By the way, I owe you an apology for being so insulting in that other thread regarding whether or not Microsoft was being hypocritical. I was a real jerk in the way I argued about it. Sorry about that.

Toasticus

Edge of Blade

and mind you... its a piece of plastic with buttons... lighten up.

dadeisvenm

FP_slomo788

I can't see why rumble support couldn't be patched into any game that allows downloadable content. I am already willing to lay money on the fact that games like Resistance will get a patch allowing for Sony's version of Achievements to activate (whether or not they backlog for the achievements you already have in-game is another question) so I don't think it would be long before it gets rumble support as well.

Especially since they probably knew (being a Sony related studio) that the embargo on rumble tech was only going to be limited to the length of the lawsuit. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if the programing was already there, just waiting for a patch to add it to the menu.

PapaBear434

Citan359

Acunia

I'll admit i'm a ps2 fanboy, but i've been holding off on buying a PS3/360 until they've both had a fair chance to get themselves, games and features like online etc. to the market... The way it looks now, i'm better off with Sony.

JCtheMC

Tzepish

Sparkamus

Whoops, I can play the game, too.

Tzepish

Never mind, that was an issue with USB 1.0. Not so much an issue with the new generation of USB (seeing as they sell ten to fifteen foot cables.)

PapaBear434

FP_slomo788

Thrillhaus

Yeah, it's just a mini-USB to standard USB connection. I have a six foot cord and the one that came with the system.

Honestly, they didn't do anything bigger because from my understanding a USB connection actually begins to degrade over that 6' length.

PapaBear434

Runna

Terroris

FP_slomo788

The biggest reason I want rumble in my PS3 controller is actually to add a little weight to it. I hardly ever use the motion controls in Motorstorm or Warhawk because of it.

Not that they aren't good. They are very sensitive, fine tuned, all sorts of good stuff. But the controller is so light, it makes it to easy to over correct. I end up sweeping one way to hard and then turning way to far the other way to compensate.

With a little heft to it, I may have less of a struggle with it.

@Action-Bastard:

15 hours would suck. With as much as I play my PS3 right now, I have yet for a controller to even get into the halfway charge mark. I usually just use one controller and leave the other plugged in all the time. When one starts wearing down, I switch them out. And that only happens maybe once a month. That's DAMN good.

Not that I ever game for more than a couple hours anymore (I have a wife and kid, and they tend to get grumpy if Dad spends more than half an hour on,) but I would be greatly disappointed if my controllers started running down on the rare occasion I have folks over for a game party.

I think the limiting factor in battery life has to be the size. The 360 controller is shaped fairly large, but it's battery sits vertically along the middle where it's not noticed. They can add a decent sized battery pack there.

The Sixaxis has the battery horizontally between the hand grips, so there is only so much space in that bridge when you take into account all the buttons and motion sensors (that really HAVE to be in the middle.)

Why they can't put the battery in two seperate packs on either side in the handle, I don't know. They probably just want to even out the weight, so it's not tiresome to hold, but I WANT the weight...

Ok, pointless long rant done.

PapaBear434

Action-Bastard

8 should be fine. O_o

SliceWarriorX

onikuwagata

SliceWarriorX

@Toasticus: Ah yes...the hamburger controller. I liked to mess with my roommate and mime like I was eating it. While playing Halo. Deathmatch.

onikuwagata

Action-Bastard

Slomo, for your own good, shutup. I'm all for PS3, but don't do that idiotic price thing, considering some people don't buy any of that... (well AA batteries, I guess)
And considering you have to buy an HDMI cable for PS3 if you do what Sony wants you to do.
If you wanna defend Sony, choose your battles, and think... (In short, Don't act like Sony.)

Citan359

I also think the current version is too light.

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And, as anyone that has Zelda or Elebits can tell you, the Wiimote eats batteries. Pointing drains it quick. Thank god for rechargeables.

Mr_Fuzzypaws

Toasticus

For shooters its pretty much worthless as it doesn't really add to the experience as much as it should. If it were a linear feedback (i.e. recoil motion) though then I would be on the other side of the fence. The only place that traditional rumble (two offset weighted motors) really works is in driving games (mostly offroad) and air combat games, though the power in most motors doesn't really give as much feedback as you might like.

To be honest, the best rumble I've ever used is the N64 original rumble pack, which was really quite awesome with Starfox 64, though that could be just good memories!

The place I would personally love to see feedback motors would be in the new Namco G-Con 3 guns! Proper arcade style recoil in those things would be amazing!

Flazh

@Kosher Infidel:
And I'm not trying to argue, but no...I really don't miss rumble... Hell, it should have been there, but defiantly wasn't a big hit for me. I was playing the 360 at my friends (playing Oblivion) and I really didn't even notice rumble at first, and when I did it added nothing... (for me anyway). GT, and maybe MGS are the only ones that come to mind for rumble, but I'll use a wheel for GT and Kojima is the best developer ever so he'll make something work without rumble anyway.

Sorry for any grammar error's didn't proof-read.

Citan359

cant wait to get rumble back, especially in time for MGS 4.
Im with McWhertor here: gimme a longer cord in this new one to charge the controller whilst i play, instead of like 2' from the system and we'll have no problems at all. hell, even if you dont, if it swings 15 hours of chage, im kool & the gang with that.

TheIrishNinja

Action-Bastard

GET HIM!

I don't know any Sony fan that wouldn't MIND rumble, but honestly all people are saying is that they don't miss it as much as you'd think.

At first, it did feel a little dead in my hands. After an hour, you don't even notice.

That's not saying I won't upgrade when they come out, but come on, man. Let's leave the sweeping generalizations to your imaginary fanboys to use.

PapaBear434

@ridleysaria: So it costs $400 and you have to pay $200 for a HD DVD add-on, $100 for a Wi-fi adapter, AA batteries and $180 to upgrade your drive? The 360 is even better right?

FP_slomo788

That's true. And with the right attitude you can forgive anyone, no matter how badly they mistreat you.

ridleysaria

ontopic: most ps2 games had it off on default, i would only notice the lack of rumble when i was adjusting options and the menu said 'vibration: off'. I hope they make rumble special again. Immersion was said to have some new haptics which would do more than vibrate like last gen ;)

Dargakis

FP ph15h

Toasticus

People don't miss rumble, please. Shooters, action games, hell the re-hash of PoP is awesome with rumble.

KosherInfidel

silentknome

@Citan359:
You know of decent PS3 titles you could play? Tell me!

Rhaedaw

Toasticus

sakuraz

last I checked I spent 20$ and haven't had to spend money on batteries since.

sc00t420

Citan359

Toasticus

dadeisvenm

Barbara

ridleysaria

funny, thanks to all of the anti-sony fanboys "lol i will never buy a ps3 without rumble, 360 ftw!!" blog postings, real ps3 fans will get rumble ! :D

Dargakis

=O

Looking at getting a battery pack soon.

ITR

Arkanius