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Figures</p> <p>Gehirnesser</p>]]></description>
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Basically ampillion I explained that if they were challenged it was by Decipher or Nintendo (I think that WotC brought the lawsuits) and they lost. If I find the info I'll post it here. You can produce other card games but they must not contain a trading aspect nor a battle aspect that reduces a players hp down below 1 to win as well as not including any mana or spells...and so forth...they cornered the market basically. It's a real shame too. I feel that a lot of people would be able to create some nice card games out there but can't afford to license the patent.</p> <p>Gehirnesser</p>]]></description>
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@<a href="#c1347895">ampillion</a>: </p>
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I don't disagree with you at all. I would love to see more companies out there producing unique and wonderful card games. I think Decipher challenged them in court and they lost. That or Wizards threatened them and Decipher caved in. I looked around while typing this and can't find anything off hand. If I do, I'll post. (Not sure if this gets posted twice as kotaku has been down for me)</p> <p>Gehirnesser</p>]]></description>
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@<a href="#c1347895">ampillion</a>: </p>
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I don't disagree with you at all. I would love to see more companies out there producing unique and wonderful card games. I think Decipher challenged them in court and they lost. That or Wizards threatened them and Decipher caved in. I looked around while typing this and can't find anything off hand. If I do, I'll post.</p> <p>Gehirnesser</p>]]></description>
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@<a href="#c1347594">Gehirnesser</a>: Why is that not legally challenged? Seems a bit of a monopoly. That's like me 'owning' the right to he ball. Want to play soccer? Pay me.</p>
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@<a href="#c1347628">Violater</a>: I'm not saying they wouldn't. What I'm saying is that, if they made the cards themselves entirely useless outside of the PS3 game, it won't be nearly as successful, as if they make the game something you can play with a buddy locally with just the cards. <br />
You'd generate more interest if the game itself is something you can play with just the cards, and then the video game allows you to do more with it.</p> <p>Ampillion, Dayman. Fighter of the Nightman.</p>]]></description>
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@<a href="#c1347199">StocDred</a>: </p>
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WotC only made a few of the games in your list there, buddy.</p>
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Jyhad was White Wolf.</p>
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Dune was Five Rings Publishing.</p>
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I think Doomtown was Decipher, but I could be wrong on that (it wasn't the Whatsee, though).</p>
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X-Men, well, that depends on which one you mean, and I'm pretty sure Whatsee didn't have a hold on the licence for long, if ever.</p> <p>LynxWinters</p>]]></description>
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@<a href="#c1347590">ampillion</a>: <br />
"Now, if they make a good card game that's balanced and fun, AND it has these extras like online play and cool graphical effects for the cards that are being put into play, then it definitely can be successful as well as innovative"</p>
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Why do you think they would not include all these things to make it successful. I don't think it is a matter of If with Sony but when. </p> <p>Violater</p>]]></description>
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@<a href="#c1345986">ampillion</a>: </p>
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Hasbro owns the patent for Trading Card Games <a href="http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=5662332.PN.&OS=PN/5662332&RS=PN/5662332">Patent in Question</a> Annoying to read but in general you get the idea. Most other companies that produce their games license the patent from Hasbro.</p> <p>Gehirnesser</p>]]></description>
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@<a href="#c1346895">weatherman</a>: I'm going to tend to agree with that. In all honesty, if you like playing card games (The people this will appeal to.), you'll want the cards to actually be some form of game as well. I don't think people will really feel as great about plopping down extra money to buy the game and an Eye, if they can only play this card game in front of their PS3's.</p>
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Now, if they make a good card game that's balanced and fun, AND it has these extras like online play and cool graphical effects for the cards that are being put into play, then it definitely can be successful as well as innovative.</p> <p>Ampillion, Dayman. Fighter of the Nightman.</p>]]></description>
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God, I miss Netrunner. That was a fun CCG.</p> <p><a href="http://blogs.pyoko.org/dogstar/">PratzStrike</a></p>]]></description>
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@<a href="#c1346730">moofrank</a>: </p>
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Yes, and you can only use your playstation 3 to play this game and no others.</p>
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Come on man, get a grip. If you already own a PS3, and plan on getting the PLAYSTATION Eye anyway, this is a great game for you to have. Hopefully you can play the game without a PS3 (just like a normal CCG), but for those of us with PS3s and wanting online play - this is a great thing.</p>
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Early plans were to include the camera with the game (much like Guitar Hero), but we'll see if they keep to that.</p>
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Hey, WOTC has had plenty of failures and short-lived product over the years. NetRunner, Jyhad/Vampire, Hecatomb, Harry Potter, X-Men, Doomtown, Dune, the non-Decipher Star Wars game, The Simpsons, and those major league sports games. Don't go giving them the Midas Touch. If Eye of Judgement is a crappy game, the best tech in the world and the best game marketing company won't help it sell.</p> <p><a href="http://www.fourhman.com">StocDred</a></p>]]></description>
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I've got to be honest and say that this is *just* the kind of thing to sucker me right back into MtG.</p> <p><a href="http://www.ctoforaday.com/">gblock</a></p>]]></description>
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I love the way people will hope for the worst till the very end (sarc.). Innovation and success can only drive competition, which makes things good for all of us.<br />
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I think the only way this is a commercial success is if the cards are playable without a PS3. A smart company would leverage card sales to console sales by hooking players with a great card game and showing them the advance play modes when they play it with a PS3. A dumb company would think that they could get people to buy a console just to play the card game. Why do I have this feeling that Sony falls into the latter category?</p>
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But I won't naysay just yet. This is a very cool concept if it can be done right. </p> <p>weatherman</p>]]></description>
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A CCG that REQUIRES a $600 console, plus a TBA priced camera, PLUS collectible cards!?!?!</p>
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It is cute and all, but it may be a setup for a disaster of BreaKey like proportions.</p>
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(Seriously, look at this link <a href="http://boardgamegeek.com/game/18044">http://boardgamegeek.com/game/18044</a> for more on BreaKey)</p> <p>moofrank</p>]]></description>
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@Michael Fahey: You're suck a geek,and we love you for it!</p> <p>huginn</p>]]></description>
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@<a href="#c1346399">Violater</a>: </p>
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Don't quote me on this, but as I remember the TGS interview with the producer announced a pre-emptive price of $6- $8 for a booster pack of 10 cards.</p>
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Again, this is all subject to change and I could totally off - but that's what I remember since I've followed this game for a while.  </p> <p>AdeptVoice</p>]]></description>
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Well, it seems they have marketing and distribution covered, Now lets hear the price.</p> <p>Violater</p>]]></description>
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@<a href="#c1346088">gwangi</a>: Hey, maybe you had a more casual crowd, that's cool. And when playing with my buddies, sure, it was all about creative, goofy decks, having fun. But I got brought along one day to play in some little local mall tournament (Talking maybe twenty people at most actually playing.), just after a set came out. And you'd have people who would bring boxes they just bought and just peel through them, only after certain cards. <br />
So, money was a factor. But then again, I set foot into their Magic Nerd territory, perhaps I was unprepared for their ways and customs.</p> <p>Ampillion, Dayman. Fighter of the Nightman.</p>]]></description>
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Wow... Wizards of the Coast may be in on EoJ??? That's like... That's like if Sony had worked WITH Konami to make a Karaoke revolution that didn't suck instead of destroying them with Singstar! I mean, that's a really good thing!</p>
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If Sony and Konami had struck some sort of deal with Karaoke revolution, where the PS2 version could have real songs (not covers) and such, they would have sold just as many, and Bemani games would still be coming to PS3... </p>
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Sorry... it's not really related, I just miss my DDR... Or, I don't "miss" it because I still have it, I just want it on the pS3 with 4 or 7 player multiplayer. </p>
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This is awesome news... Teaming up with Hasbro... This will make it legit with all those comic book stores... Sony is going to make an absolute killing... This may be Sony's "Pokemon." </p> <p>bobtheduck</p>]]></description>
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Magic the Gathering sucks big steaming demon dick.</p>
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Legend of the Five Rings rules all.</p>
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This has been your weekly L5R fanboy message.</p> <p><a href="http://blogs.pyoko.org/dogstar/">PratzStrike</a></p>]]></description>
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M:tG was a plague on my wallet too.  And anyone that complained that the people with more money won the game just weren't creative enough to come up with a good deck.  I have long ago sold off all my card, but every once in a great while I will see M:tG cards somewhere and I will get a little itch to just buy one start pack and 2 boosters just like back in the day.</p> <p>gwangi</p>]]></description>
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This thing sounds pretty cool, almost like a real life version of yugioh (the whole holographic monsters summoned from a card thing, and yes i find the concept of that cool). If the game is well designed and fun to play, I can see this being a nice hit for a specific niche.</p> <p>Takemoto</p>]]></description>
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@<a href="#c1345931">Gehirnesser</a>: Don't think they own alllll of them, but they own a lot, no joke.</p>
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I only got into it around the whole Visions/Mirage thing. It was fun for awhile, but then it slowly became a game of 'Spend the most money = win teh game'. Which I stopped buying in to.</p> <p>Ampillion, Dayman. Fighter of the Nightman.</p>]]></description>
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		    <title><![CDATA[Sony Taps Hasbro For EOJ Cards]]></title>
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Most card games today pale in comparison to MTG (3rd Edition, after that I quit playing as I felt they were adding unnecessary cards just to increase profits)</p>
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The only one that comes close is a game called "Hecatomb" (check wikipedia). This card game is yet another one I won't buy because Hasbro somehow owns the rights to all Collectible Card Games (Someone tell me how that is possible?)</p> <p>Gehirnesser</p>]]></description>
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