pluckylump

jro4525

MetroidJunkie

shadow007

Akimaru

Akimaru

voodooKobra

frankmarlowe

RedWolf

First off, I am going to assume you do not live in America, correct?
Secondly, school shootings are not as common as you think they are (this is a common misconception even among most Americans).
Thirdly, you cannot buy guns "everywhere you go" in America. I cannot just walk down to the grocery store and buy a gun.
Finally, just because guns are illegal does not prevent shootings. There are countries that have guns outlawed and there are still many many brutal slayings. The point is, regardless of whether or not guns are legal, anyone with a criminal intent WILL find a way to get what they want no matter where they are. Just because it is illegal to have a gun will not stop them if they also intend to do other illegal actions.

Again, the issue is society and the mentality it breeds. There are so many issues prevalent in America culture that are not prevalent in other cultures that prevent the proper course of action from being taken. This has very little to do with gun control or even video games. This is because this society has had so much freedom to do as they please. There are so many underlying issues that it would take me more time than I have to write concerning WHAT is wrong here. But regardless to say, banning fire arms would not have stopped him, just stalled him until he could get his hands on them.

jlodus

You people might want to... I dunno... LOOK INTO what the fuck you are talking about. This guy is not a citizen, and wouldn't be allowed to purchase a pistol, anyways. He collected 2 pistols through some illegal means.

since you brought up the subject (of the need of 'looking into what the fuck one is talking about'), the guy used two 9mm pistols, at least one of which was bought at a gunstore some 30min drive from his dorm. i watched the comments by the storeowner, how sorry he was and yadda yadda, but how at the end of the day, he had all rights to, and no reasons against, selling him the weapon, plus 50 rounds of ammo.

i'm waiting for the moment when the 2nd ammendment will be quoted to give rights to americans to carry personal ballistic weapons. you know, just in case, for those far ends of the lawn. and for feeling more manly, of course.

sad. apparently 33 kids' deaths are not enough. it seems the only thing that can change a gun-supporter's mind is a bullet in _his_ chest.

darkblu

Buying guns everywhere you go is the problem. Look at the rest of the world. Almost no shootings at schools why? Guns are illegal. Guns are hard to get for young kids. Only in America there are so many shootings at schools.

Games are played everywhere in the world and there are no or almost none shootings in schools.

Slein

Baine

Flak

Anyway. Jack Thompson has sunk to the lowest low. In my eyes, he makes Stalin look like a saint. Please Jack, choke on something big.

Flak

Two-Hour-Hiatus

How frivolous. You know as well as I that rocks would not be an effective weapon. A 9 millimeter, or two - you could be a master swordsman and the uneducated peasant with the great equalizer wins.

In fact, on the subject, how many mass murders have been carried out without a gun or bomb? Hmmm. Now how many used rocks?

We're not talking about banning rocks, because killers DON'T use rocks. We're talking about some common-sense, FEDERAL controls on gun distribution, instead of a patchwork quilt of confusing and contradictory laws depending on what state you are currently in. We're talking about reducing the harm some of these nuts cause, by taking away the tools they need to inflict damage on this scale. Does that really effect you so much that you need to freak out over it? You know, monitor guns the same way we do bomb-building components like nitrogen fertilizers. It can be done. Also, when a crazy hand-makes a gun capable of semiautomatic fire with clip reload and it does not malfunction - well if such an event ever occurs, which is highly unlikely - then we can throw up our hands and say theres nothing we can do. Until then, I don't see why we should stop. Because of a few foaming at the mouth NRA supporters? The same militia nutcases that brought you the Oklahoma City bombing? They were all about 2nd amendment rights.

As I recall, your solution is that we should ALL bring weapons to school. Are you actually serious? Do you even consider the implications of asking the entirety of society to be armed so they are safe enough to go to school? I for one would rather move then consider arming my daughter so she can feel safe going to school. To a sane place, you know, like Japan or nigh-anywhere in Europe.

"If you know that there is a 90% chance that every person around you is packing heat, are you as likely to do something this stupid?"

If you're crazy, the answer is 'yes'.

I'll leave you with this final shredding of your thesis, ZWarren - gun free zones =/= gun control.

The Commissar

It is already illegal to sell/give guns without going through the proper paperwork. As for Virginia, you have me there. I know nothing of Virginia laws.

note: I don't own a gun, if you wondered.

If I misunderstood your message, then I apologize.

All Love,
Zach

=)

ZWarren69

But with that said, the weapons he had come from somewhere. If gun control stated that you were responsible for your guns and they could not be resold. I am not going to explain how laws actually could prevent this from happening, but it could. Your conception of gun control is limited to current failed weak attempts at bringing control to this problem.

Another thing, background check as I understand it is not mandatory in Virginia, as I understand it, you don't have to leave your name for the record of the gun transaction.

Still. I am not saying it is the end of all, gun control is a far reaching issue and anyone implying there is something wrong with the gun laws in america immidiately gets a knee yerk reaction from almost all americans. It is in the culture, in the blood of americans.

I don't understand why someone would oppose that all guns had to be accounted for? An active database of all guns. With controls and checkups. Liability to those who lose their guns. Regulations for storage. Well, like laws in countries where not one of 3125 persons where shot to death everyday.

Sure there are other explanations, but why aren't proper arguments come forward as to why these things happen in the US. CNN US edition is on around the clock at my home right now and they go on and on about how the school should have acted differently to prevent this tragedy. Not exploring any other angle. Was there a bullying mentality? Gun laws, social segragations etc.

Nothing, they go on and on blaming the school and local police who are real victims in this situation, The chief of police can barely hold back his tears and the journos just go for his and the schools managements throat all the time.

My point is, there is not one thing to blame here, not gun-laws not the school or the police. This is just a very tragic event and my praise to the student body chairman(?) who realizes this and focus on the healing, not the blaming.

MartenKL

Brian Crecente

So, he said video games were created because of a shooting? :-P Think you got that a bit backwards.

jesirose

You people might want to... I dunno... LOOK INTO what the fuck you are talking about. This guy is not a citizen, and wouldn't be allowed to purchase a pistol, anyways. He collected 2 pistols through some illegal means.

The argument of sales and restriction of sales, due to this horrible event, is null and void.

Thank god, some people actually fucking research things.

Your reactions are no different than JT's. It is a knee-jerk reaction, placing blame on something that does no need it.

This problem is much deeper and more complicated, than the tools used.

-Zach Warren
myspace.com/zwarren69

ZWarren69

MartenKL

So, not very feasible, however, laws tend to have an effect on peoples attitude and moral. If the state kills, it lowers the bar on how easy it is to take someone elses life. If guns are allowed they will be more common and ultimately easier for criminals to get their hands on.

By going to war, killing tens of thousands civilians on foreign ground, by executing people at home, by allowing firearms the US Government sets standards their civilians will base their opionions, morale and ethics on.

Violence in videogames is an extension of all that, not a forerunner, merely a documentary of our world. Same goes for Catcher in The Rye, Heavy Metal, Movies and what have you.

And please, stop praying and start acting. Mourn however you need, take the time it have to take. But if you want things to change for the better, start changing the fundamentals of American Ethics and Moral by changing laws so that human life is respected wherever, whomever.

MartenKL

yurlittlepony

I totally don't agree with this statement, but i admit that the other points in your post are right.

The matter is that (even before this guy took somebody's weapon) firearms sales, circulation are totally without control (correct me if i'm wrong, i saw that in Michael Moore movies and french -non orientated- documentaries about this subject).

look only at murder by firearms bodycount in a year for USA : about 17,000.

That number really scares me and how many more post or pre teenager killing America needs to understand the whole firearm issue that lot of people are underrating ?

You're talking about education, but it's at the same time The problem and The problem solver.
Why ? Because it's easy for government to say "parents aren't doing their job" .
But, I mean.. 17000 killing a year by firearms + campus tragedies are now hot government issues.
By doing what ? Police work on illegal wearing of weapon, strong psychological analysis on people who are willing to purchase weapon... only examples...

You'll find the solution, i believe in America.

diktafunk

It's the damn same thing here in France, there's always a dumb sociologist to tell that rap, violent movies and also video games are turning youth to the Dark Side.

In France, where i live, TV medias reported this video game thing about Virginia campus killing which is about merely crap.
Why ? because adults doesn't understand teenagers and probably would never.

But much more dangerous (or ridiculous) is the US government position wich is close to the NRA and basicly say : "If students were armed, they could have defended themselves" : if that was the case we would probably be in an online gaming situation in the Jack Thompson logic ???

picture me here totally desorientated by the american way of life.

R.i.p to all the students, help their families and put yourself in the streets to push your government to ban firearms.

peace

diktafunk

I'm not suprised in the least at this, anyway. It's Jack Thompson. This is what he does. This is his life. It's pitiful and cruel, but I don't see why anyone would be surprised by Jack Thompson saying this.

Baramos

ZWarren69

2. The guns had the serials filed off, leading me to believe that they were illegally purchased.

3. There were 2 pistols. TWO Pistols, are not a vast weapons cache.

If he had used a homemade weapon, would you be for the banning of all the pieces used in the construction?

If he had killed them all with rocks, would you start banning rocks?

The problem is not as simple as the Kotaku readers want to believe!!

-Zach

ZWarren69

First off, my sympathies and condolences to the
friends and families of all those involved in this horrendously sad saga.

I will start with the smaller points as they hopefully can be covered quickly.

1. For those that are bashing Fox News in specific, all news is built to cater to the people that watch the station. As said before, it is sensationalism at its finest. Every and all news stations are guilty to some degree of it. HOWEVER, by insulting the intelligence of the viewers only degrades the argument you are trying to make. That being said, keep in mind that these so called "insultory adjective here" people are also the people that will be voting on the laws and bills in your states so by generalizing and degrading these people or you are doing no better than Mr. Thompson himself. You are welcome to your opinion regarding what you watch just as are they.

2. The issue of gun control has been raised and will forever continue to be raised, but we should really consider the root of the problem. There are a few things to keep in mind when addressing this issue. One thing is something I think the majority of people overlook and that is why Americans have the right to bear arms. This stems back to the days of the Revolutionary War. Americans were given the right to bear arms to defend themselves against the government among other options (remember, America belonged to Britain at the time so this refers to the British Government). Now, 231 years later, our nation has grown much larger than it was then and the need to protect ones self from the government is now unnecessary (tea tax anyone?). I personally do think the gun laws are somewhat antiquated as the original intention for the amendment is no longer in question, but that is my personal view.

That being said, the other notion is that gun control is NOT the issue. If there is a person of questionable mental stability and they have the desire and will to inflict harm upon others, they WILL find a way to get a dangerous weapon in their possession (be it gun, bomb, whatever). On the same note, most guns used in crimes generally do not belong to the person using them. What I think would be more feasible would be better gun education (much like some people need better video game education) to properly put into context the uses and safety of guns. Much like everything in life, there is a proper time and place for certain actions.

3. Now for the ugly part of this discussion. Mr. Thompson's involvement is not shocking, but is completely reprehensible in this act. Since most everyone hear has pointed out how deplorable it is to promote agendas, yadda yadda I will try not to rehash that. However, we can not ignore him simply because he will not go away. He will continue to preach from his soapbox and people will continue to listen. Why you ask? Because no one is countering him. We, as a community, need to stand up and say, "Look, the acts of a few unstable individuals do not represent this community." Every type of community has had to deal with this stereotype. In the past, we were content to let people think what they want primarily because it had little or no bearing on our lives. Now it does. Mr. Thompson decided to stereotype us as the worst he possibly can and without proper resistance, he will convince your average voter that he is right. That will affect every person in this community no matter what and that is the real issue here.

4. I think a lot of time, people fail to realize that any particular action is not the result of just one event, but a culmination of many. As someone pointed out, the American society is intent on scape-goating. In our society, people do not want to be placed with blame because it means failure or it means culpability. Neither of which people want to be associated with and for many reasons (lawsuits would be one). Unfortunately, people are very intent on avoiding responsibility for their actions (politics, anyone?) simply because it would imply direct failure and/or weakness.

Along the same lines, the guilty find it too easy to place blame on something other than themselves to deflect the consequences of their actions (I didn't do it, the aliens made me). As a result, we have to affects of this. One is that the guilty receive less punishment (it wasn't completely their fault) and we get witch hunting (video games did it, kill video games, etc, etc). The issue, I think, stems from basically the path of less resistance. People will naturally choose the easiest route to get to the result they want (the end justifies the means) even if this means they have to sacrifice their values and morals.

Really, in the end, we as a society need to stop being so focused on fault and blame and actually start trying to make a community. This tragic event is not the fault of video games, it is the fault and failure of the society in which we live and the mentality it fuels.

And again, I apologize for the length and my deepest sympathies go out to all those in need now. I know I could not possibly understand the pain and anguish you are feeling now, but you have my heartfelt wishes.

jlodus

I think I've read through the comments and not found this. This is the actual fox news broadcast. Shameful by Fox News.

imattclark

kwant

Seriously, why is his reaction news? Is there anybody on this PLANET who wasn't expecting this reaction?

TRT-X

kwant

and <3 Kotaku, I wasn't calling you a liar :D

Koinu

SamVT81

Shizzle

But if he doesn't have guns, how many people will be killed ?

denzuko

You think CNN is conservative? Ted Turner? Conservative? that's a laugh... Really, get a clue. Just because it isn't government owned BBC doesn't mean they're conservative...

I don't remember who said it (in these comments) but no news channel is innocent, but CNN is definitely not conservative... Neither is ABC... I'm not sure about CBS or NBC... I doubt CBS is, it's viacom owned, and they're quite far from conservative (if you've ever watched MTV or Nickelodeon you'd know that)

What a friggin joke... At least fox COVERED the damned thing... The other US networks kept the soaps running until the scheduled news... yeah, they cover high speed chases, but not the greatest school tragedy in american history... Oh, and in case anyone missed it on the Madden curse thread, here's a treat for everyone http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v107/bobtheduck2004/madd...

bobtheduck

Toad

Toad

Trevor from the Netherlands

trevor1brian

@AnnonKaiesZi: I'm surprised Fox let him on the air. He's got to be, by far, the dumberest person I've ever heard of.

I feel terrible for the poor people who were involved in this shooting. Sad, sad day. I wish I could say something useful :-(

L_K_M

maxiline

And on to JT, the sad thing is that some people will swallow all the things he spews out of that dirty mouth of his, irregardless of the things we do and do not know of the shooter.

Hooray for ignorance!

axiom

The reason for asking Jack Thompson for proof was because I know he has poor studies under his arm to show off. By running around showing off items he doesn't even understand, that in and of themselves are old and don't hold up, he'd be showing off how incredibly foolish he is. Let the man be his own downfall, as I said.

The rabbid fandom is tired of being a scapegoat, but this is really what it takes for gaming to make it big. It seems that all forms of media have to go through this. We know that music and movies were and still are scapegoats, but books were the collective scapegoat way in the past. It's how we know that we're onto something. It's still relatively new and strange to people. Time to model to everyone what a game acts like rather than rabbidly attack someone who tries to knock us down a peg. Doesn't help the gaming culture much if everytime he tries to take us down a peg, we down ourselves two.

Gospel X

Virginia Tech Shooting -- Gun Bans Are The Problem, Not The Solution

http://www.gunowners.org/pr0704.htm

AmericanNinja

gdamascus

(a) It's JT.
(b) It's FoxNews.

You put them together and they'll blame everything on anything. "

true that.

smeee

Pixelantes Anonymous

I believe the current death count is 33, including the shooter himself. I have also been greatly affected by this tragedy as I have lost two professors in my department. I was in lock down in a building behind that in which the shooting occurred, and had almost decided to go visit a professor in that building to pick up a test instead of going to my second class. Thank god that I didn't. I personally don't understand how someone could blame this on a form of entertainment, especially with out any facts to base it on.

jennyfur05

FUCK that douchebag. We need to organize a "Ignore JT Week" or something. Get a bunch of magazines/TV people/etc in on it.

For a long amount of time, just have no one talk to Jack Thompson.

Giant version of the cold shoulder, I guess. THe man feeds off of attention.

Lyrai

if you actually take the 5 minutes out of your time to look up the following two things:

1) homicides per capita by country
2) firearm homicides per capita by country

the ratios of the two data sets where actually basically identical by country. as in the US might be in the top 25 in both data sets... Japan at the very bottom in both data sets.

that is... firearms weren't really the defining factor in numbers of homicides per capita. in addition there are many countries that have a much higher per capita number of guns that the US and consistently are lower in homicides.

it's the *culture* of the countries that lead to high homicide rankings... not an inanimate object or the popularity of "electronic murder simulators".

if i was to blame anything... i'd blame the 'blame-mentality' folks that always like transferring the cause away from the actual person and onto someone or something else. nothing is ever anyones fault anymore. no one ever needs to take responsibility for their actions (or inaction) ever.

x23

Wernstar

Why am I not surprised Jackie-boy would put a spin on something like this. It is insulting to the families and all those affected by this for him to push his political agenda like this.

Condolences where they need to be. But a Sad day indeed

huginn

There is no question that the wiring in some of the heads here is so fricking twisted by some eerie force that Jack Thompson's stance seems bizarrely plausible.

The man opens his fat mouth in a way YOU disagree with and you express desires to KILL him or have him DISMEMBERED!!??

Man, this is just disturbing and alarming and deserves proper scrutiny.

AgileMolecule

How witty...

Sorry, I have friends in Detroit, and I have been there a few times. There are dirty guns. Say what you want in the safety of suburbia, but there are places where *GASP* people bypass legislation.

The problem is not the guns, games, movies, etc. Problems are more complicated than that. The problem is our culture! The problem is in slower/poorer economic regions! The problem can be parenting! The problem can be someone's mental state! But no... never... the problem is the guns. The guns killed people. Yep, you fucking got it.

Maybe the problem is bigger than you want to imagine? Maybe the problem is something that cannot be generalized to meet your agenda.

I am a moderate, leaning towards liberal polices. So don't think I am some right wing neo-con. But guns are not to blame, except for being the tool used.

The last few decades have produced many mass homicides, in the US. The most notorious have all been in gun free zones. So how effective was gun control? VT was a gun free zone, as well.

-Zach

ZWarren69

Second, I'd like to applaud the posters on this comment site for their intelligent, coherent and even-tempered discussion on this topic. Very rare.

Finally, it seems to me that while gun control may not be an end-all solution for this type of madness, it would certainly be a step in the right direction. To say that we shouldn't even try to limit firearms because that won't stop the problem is like saying that we shouldn't outlaw murder, since we won't be able to stop EVERYONE from killing!

Perhaps I am in the minority, but I am firmly in support of eliminating the second amendment, and I don't feel that blaming guns and blaming video games in this situation are at all similar. Owning a weapon is not a form of expression, nor is it a tool to aid the free exchange of ideas, nor is it an art form. Owning a gun is merely a preparation for a violent encounter, by it's very definition. If HALF the effort was made to limit gun ownership as is made to limit GAME ownership, I'd wager that violent incidents like this one would decrease greatly in frequency.

It's amazing to me that realms of pure fantasy such as video games are attacked after tragedies like this, but the people who actually manufacture and sell the weapons used IN REAL LIFE to murder innocents go unscathed.

Probably gonna get blasted for this, but I had to speak my mind in response. No disrespect intended toward anyone.

Peace.

CaseyJustice

I'd hope it'd be quite the contrary, he doesn't need to be a martyr.

MonkeyBiz

kenbo

Hopefully Jack Thompson will meet a violent end at the hands of some video-game crazed schizophrenic.

Dirtbag

dcartist

Necron117

Rekno

The problem with asking Jack where his proof comes from is that he often points to studies that are often flawed or entirely incorrect. However, the're stil there for him to refer to.

It's unfortunate that he is so single minded that he feels that children/young adults cannot differentiate fantasy violence from the real thing.

Yes, the gaming community often goes a bit franboy/girl-ish in their responses, but the community as a whole is tired of being the scapegoat.

electric_goldfish

MGSgt_Reaper

bman784

Of course, that leads right into the role of individual differences, which need not be addressed here. The role of most studies is to streamline everything down to the mainstream effect. Unfortunately, the journey is still out regarding any pro-socal effects of gaming, especially as it concerns violence.

---

Honestly, I'm just tired of the cycle we keep encountering. Something happens, Jack Thompson jumps in to say something, and then the gaming community attacks him in both rational and unrational (mostly the latter) ways. It's getting old. Sure, the old man is attempting to make us look bad all the time, but I think a large portion of the country also does not care so much anymore. Beyond that, our responses usually make us look bad for him. Sure, a few people outwit him and make him look a fool on the internet and we have a good laugh, but the rest just look like immature little shits. Instead of acting like obsessive little fanboys who can't stand to have people attacking their hobbies, how about we step back and say, "That's a nice opinion to have. I'm just curious, where's your proof?" The man is self-defeating. Let's not slow down the process.

Gospel X

@electric_goldfish: If I were to wager a guess... when he's dead. (then again knowing our luck, he'll just come back from the dead and resume...)

DarkTetsuya

MartenKL

DarkTetsuya

my love goes out to all their families and friends

BigChiefSmokem

Sharpless

Brian Crecente

dragongate84

Sharpless

You're absolutely right. Our country is a gun nation. If the price of our second amendment freedom is 32 dead college kids every once in a while, well, that seems like a toll we as a nation we are willing to pay. Europe used to have guns and look at all the problems they've had since they got rid of them. Hell, nowadays you can't even walk past a dirty Scandinavian alley without some criminal popping out offering to sell you a cheap gun. The madness.

ca$h

So I'd like to appologize to you Crecente, I'm sorry if it seemd like I was calling you a liar, because I wasn't (Geeze, I've said this like 3 times already ahah). Just try to see it from my point of view as well <3

-Koinu

Koinu

Brian Crecente

I am sad by what I see, CNN makes a point in trying to blame the officials of the school and the local police. BBC is focused on gun control laws, having a spokesperson from the Brady Project (I think it was called) speak his mind. They however miss to point out that his main argument is background check which so far looks like it wouldn't helped at all. These kind of acts are most often done by people whitout a criminal record.

Euronews takes a less blaming aproach but still making fun of archaic gun laws and financially strong NRA.

Swedish news are so far not putting the blame on anyone but my guess tomorows topic will be american gun laws.

What I get is that the american view and the European view is completely different. What I don't get is how they can't try and view things in a different perspective. CNN has not once mentioned the relaxed gun laws of Virgina and BBC has yet not mentioned any other background to this tragedy.

But please, O'Reilly and Jack Thompson must be best buddies so stop being shocked Jack appeared on Fox. I couldn't bear hearing O'Reillys take on this tragedy as he will surely blame relaxed immigration laws as the shooter has an asian look.

As for the poster or posters blaming Kotaku for cheap publicity, what should Kotaku do, ignore it? Most people concerned with gaming and reading Kotaku is a lot closer to this tragedy than Jack Thompson or Bill O'Reilly. Now doctor Phil is telling me about tragedys on CNN, got hear the man out.

MartenKL

ZWarren69

-Zach

ZWarren69

-Zach

ZWarren69

Kotaku spreading false info? Im going agree with you on this one. Until we have a source, im going to have to say this is false. Lets just hope its not.

dorylomorphs

Koinu

That's the most i know so far.

This is terrible, and more than likely an unstable mind and drugs had the most to do with this tragedy. For Wacko-Jacko to place the blame on cideo games is sick, disgusting, horrific, and monstrous. That he would place blame on something so early on, when even the information i just stated wasn't even released. His actions have gone too far, and this man should be barred from practicing law in any state, and arrested for slander, libel, and anything else they can drum up. For him to say that was completely wrong, and he should be punished for exploiting such a horific and saddening event for his own personal Gain. I'm actually sick from all this, and what he says just inflames that sickness and anger.

Nadams1229

Karttikeya

I'd still like to break Thompson's nose. I know, two wrongs dont make a right.. but the crack under the knuckle would sure feel good...

lastly, I dont want to start a whole new argument here, but it still makes me sick how easy is it to get hold of lethal fire arms in the US.

richhigg

Nick!

The fact is this - violent media does not make children violent. In fact, it's been shown that it makes kids LESS violent as they work out their frustrations and anger through the games to get it out of their system.

That study that Jack always points to is ridiculous because the scientitists themselves said they didn't even have time to read all the research before they made their statement.

When will he quit spouting this ignorant bullshit?!

electric_goldfish

CarpleTunle

kidko

laesperanzapaz

swift

Jack Thompson himself.

the list ends there.

diablofreak

dorylomorphs

How are you going to affect access to firearms so much that it makes it impossible for someone to get 2 pistols? It's not like he walked in with automatic weapons. 2 Pistols... You can get 2 pistols from your neighborhood drugdealer for $500 a pop

Aex

thurstonkillgore

casper_uk

PlayerX

Does not compute.

CyberSkull

Heartfelt condolences to all involved in this tragedy.

shufflemoomin

P.S Love the southpark reference.

Hater3000

wheezo

DragonAsh

lemmy

sam-i-am

ZWarren69

Trash>>Gamespot forums,Gamefaqs forums>>DOG poop>>Ign Forums or Vesti>>>>Pug on a steaming pile of shit>>>Systemwars.com,1up forums.

I just had to get that out of my chest.

Hater3000

This is NOT about Grand fucking Theft Auto, this is about PEOPLE DIEING.

It's truely disgusting to see any human do that, let alone everyone's favorite disgrace to the American Judicial System.

Pheonix Gamma

Lolerz!11! is not in my vocabulary. I did not mean to come across as immature. I see your point. However, you should take action towards this nonsense. I was trying to get people to do so. Not with L33T speak, though.

I see no reason for me to grow up, needless to say.

ZWarren69

Guns are not the problem. The problem is much much bigger than any one thing. You can not legislate sanity.

ZWarren69

And sure enough as I hit enter to view this page I am met by the headline. I am not going to make comments that JT should rot in hell or make harsh statements about his mother and what he does with her at the weekend. What I will say is that this man is a sick and sad person who is using the pain of others to get yet another moment in the spot light.

Please mr Thompson ask yourself who is worse, the developer making a violent video game or the media whore who overshadows the tradgedy of 32 innocent people killed for his own gain?

I know where my (and everyone else's) vote lies.

headgoomba

Koinu

I thought that interesting, until the day I saw them reporting on some 13-year-old girl who had been arrested, by actual cops, at her school for writing on her desk (not even anything obscene, either). They actually brought on some woman who argued in favor of the arrest, so they could make a 'news analysis' segment out of it. And that's when I understood how accurate description really is.

Fox News is like a the National Enquirer of political TV. It'll report on anything, get someone to argue for anything, just to have something to say. JT on Fox is just not surprising to me. You don't expect Star or People to handle our celebrities with particular grace: don't expect Fox to handle current events gracefully, either.

Am I saddened? Yes, absolutely. Am I disappointed? No, my expectations were pretty much fulfilled.

nickaix

Scazza

protozoider

Xenon

Agreed 100%. Jack Thompson is spreading ignorance. How do you combat ignorance?

Certainly not by ignoring it.

Toasticus

Police are having trouble identifying the guy. Thats some source you have Mr. Thompson.

I think Jack knows his ship is sinking and this was a last ditch effort at trying to look like he knows what hes talking about. Its looking more and more like he was BSing

Handles25

Yikes! Sorry, I pulled that from a post on another site. I should have taken the time to check. /shame

Elly

Hater3000

Rlly the only game that twisted fuck might played(Please dont take this as a racial comment)is probably WOW.

Hater3000

Those that pray, please pray for the people there and the families. Those that don't offer them a moment of silence in reverence to those that died.

ARVash

Koinu

ZWarren69

To those who say just ignore Jack Thompson - I don't know what you're thinking. He already has a soapbox. The problem is that the Kotaku's and Joystiq's of the world don't. The more powerful the voices become here, the more likely his brand of insanity can be countered effectively and he may not be able to secure a spot on a cable news show to capitalize on some future persons pain and suffering.

Letting him go unchallenged will just lead to the even more pointless scrutiny and legislation aimed at this medium. The media isn't going to be the counterpoint to his insanity. If he's the only one talking, then his word will go as unchallenged truth.

OrionTheSmiter

Not gun rights, mind you, their funders at the NRA would never stand for that, but right of free speech and right of assembly will be abridged for our safety.

MrAkai

Skylar

You hit the nail on the head, but I didn't want to get into a big thing about "Fox News" in a thread like this. Really, watching CNN disgusted me just as much as anything today. There are no "innocent" news stations here, each one is going to do whatever they can to draw people in.

KaneRobot

Well said, sir.

ZWarren69

I'm afraid you are incorrect, it is the killer's fault, not the gun's. Last time I checked, guns did not have a conscious or will, of their own.

Your reaction is a knee jerk reaction, in the same way blaming games/music/books is. I understand you mean well, unlike JT, but your statements are not correct.

And about the gay marriage thing, it will happen sooner, rather than later.

ZWarren69

Your argument is flawed, AnnonKaiesZi. Rath