I expected individually buyable songs for negligable pricing to make each one an easy impulse buy, not a brutal MS points kicking everytime and with less choice involved....

MS and Red Octane blew a real good chance to make GH a 360 Ambassador and base console sales on its rep.

Gougeing fans doesnt help anybody!

vonvolks

protozoider

[sarcasm]Also, nice anti-semitic statement. Gives you much more credibility. [/sarcasm]

Darkest Daze

$100 for a $40 game isn't insane?

Darkest Daze

boognish523

DragonAsh

Any who, yea, microtransactions are about choice, and we all have the choice of getting ripped off or not taking advantage of one of the main draws of this already expensive ($90) game. For shame.

Wernstar

For instance - I was actually planning on buying the 360 version because of the ability to buy tracks online (for instance - all the old GH1 tracks) I own GH 1 AND 2 on the PS2, but love the game enough to shell out even MORE money to buy the 360 version AND the GH1 tracks (both of which I already own.)

However, if all the songs are going to cost this much theres no way in hell I am bothering with either the microtransactions OR GH2 for the 360. I will wait, save my money, and buy GH3 instead.

I dont think they realized there would be such a backlash to the price, otherwise they wouldn't have done it. If they're SMART they will lower the price - but I think they have already cost themselves a lot of money from people like me who are reconsidering buying GH2 for the 360.

darkened-flame

A poor showing of the DLC GH indeed.

On another note, maybe they will include the indie songs in free packs later?

Aex

Franklin Comes Alive!

shufflemoomin

The lure of promised CHEAPER DLC and unreleased content has been soured by this bait n' switch to higher prices

so their math is:

PS2: GH2 with Guitar & GH1 game only = $120

360: GH2 with Guitar & GH1 DLC songs only (WITHOUT packaging manufacturing, game disc manuf., retail chain or distribution costs etc.) = $187

A $67 markup...not including XboxLiveGold fees

I give a flying fuck about MS, ATVI, or RO's reasoning for increasing the cost of OLD GH1 content on 360.

It's offensive to charge MORE for GH1 DLC than the boxed copy (compared to ps2 gh1 pricing or to 360)

***
Shouldnt it be Greatest Hits prices anyway?
***

I'd pay $20 bux to DL all the GH1 songs. Isn't that what people were expecting, with all the "Decreased costs with DLC!" promises MS has been wagging around?

FUCK YOU for insulting your consumers.
In case you didnt hear it, listen to my wallet.

JoshReflek

I'm glad I'm not going to buy it. This is the second coming of Lumines on Live, but worse.

darkslide

ev1l_er1c

The difference is that if you write the correct series of words to the black hole of customer service, you will get a response from someone in a position to make a change. The problem with most internet petitions is that you basically just have a general statement and a list of names that will get passed onto underlings until it eventually gets completely lost.

Lightbunny

But seriously, come on. When Guitar Hero 3 comes out for all the next gen systems, I guarantee extra downloadable tracks will cost the same amount across all three platforms.

WinterSnowblind

So you think that MS has nothing to do with this? A company who is forcing a game dev to release their new maps for a fee instead of free, like they wanted. A company who made Bizarre charge for Geometry Wars instead of free, like they wanted. A company that feels $180 is "fair" for a $120gb laptop drive, just because they put a proprietary casing on it.

I'm pretty sure MS is just as guilty as Red Octane. This is horrible and I'm seriously hoping the PS3 lowers it's price and gains a lot of ground, offering lower priced or free content, forcing MS to actually compete for our business, not just assume they already have it.

Darkest Daze

AgainstOne

spookytooth

I'm probably the only one who cares about this aspect of the game, but I actually liked unlocking new tiers/venues. My dream was that the new packs would be added as new tiers/venues.
Now that would have justified the price.
...IMHO

iso

Im guessing that's the plan. Im sure RO has the data about which songs were good and which ones kinda sucked in GH1. Now they will fit 2 shit songs with 1 good one. I betcha anything.

radink

As to everyone comparing the songs to itunes. I think we should really compare it to GH1 or GH2. Lets say the GH 2 without the guitar is 60$. Theres 70 songs. So each song is really costing less then 1$. Now thats without removing the actual cost for making the engine (which they dont have to rewrite for every song) and art.

rizeup

In turn giving us (again) a choice to speak louder with our wallets than whining about it 100 times over in a comment section.

latefee_910

dh4645

That idea is stupid. If i can't afford them or no content at all is the same thing. No content. I'd rather not have the content than to be insulted by having content that is way overpriced.

radink

I signed it. It only takes 10 seconds. Plus it saved me from writing the black hole that is Customer Service.

edb87

lol, I know - they're sooo effective. I wouldn't have even mentioned it if it weren't for the fact that the bioshock collectors edition petition got some positive attention. I doubt this one will have the same impace, but who knows.... stranger things have happened.

What The Geek

Jabbertrack

This is great, because internet petitions always work.

Lightbunny

BTW - I knew about the GoW "Mapgate" scandal but I didn't know about Lumines or Geometry Wars. Thanks for the info, fellow posters.

edb87

yes your example, not only is it drastic but missing the point.
If one agrees that it's too price we have the CHOICE of not buying and speaking loudly with our wallets. And that's the point I was getting at. I never said it was a good choice to buy them. I just think the price isn't that bad of a deal and having the choice of buying them is better than not having them at all.
Just as the price can go up, it can always come down.

@marshmallow_fields:
you want me label me as a 360 fanboy because I think having the choice is better than not having one and you in turn think I'm a 360 fan boy because I used a 360 pricing as an example? Fine. But you're an douche for not having anything productive to say to this tread except for calling someone a fanboy.

latefee_910

T-man

When will MS stop using their loyal consumer base as economic guinea pigs?

You can only rape a fanboy once, or maybe it's ten times... I forget. I think there's a pretty clear idea of what pricepoint/content value ratio is acceptable by now MS. Stop trying to make every penny you can and worry more about giving the consumer what they want for what they want to pay.

Believe it or not, you'll make more in the long run and expand your consumer base by offering content that is priced appropriately. This continued bilking of your core userbase is only gonna make Sony look less and less out of touch with the market by comparison, and limit the future viability of the marketplace.

You've got the best tool in the business for combating the used game market in the xbl marketplace- start using it as something other than a cash cow and it'll pay off in dividends over the long term.

(posted this comment earlier in the GHIII post, thought it was more appropriate to this thread)

stranger

Gawker sites are Blog sites. It's not traditional journalism. Want to bitch about grammatical errors, go hang out at IGN. Those guys are straight up journalists without a spellchecker on the entire site. The crap that slips past their "editors" is shameful.

Complaints about phonetic errors on a blog is like bitching about poor spelling in the comments section. Find something worthwhile to bitch about- like the pricing of DLC on GHII.

That's what this comment thread is supposed to be about anyway.

stranger

starla79

detox84

Let's face it, MS do not want price drop in the marketplace so consummers do not get used to the idea of waiting a few months before downloading things for cheaper, and they do avoid free downloads like GoW or Geo Wars so that within a few years people won't recall they used to get patches and updates for free while they will overcharge for POS games...wait, that's happening already.

I heard abut 'testing the market' so many times now it's not even funny. Everytime there is a backlash. It's time to stop spreading nonsense and stop assraping us.

As of now, that's one less customer on the marketplace.

Fabrice

Erona

AlexNC

Penguinator for life.

Hiru

As more people hear about this I think sales of GHII for the 360 will wane, as all us early adopters got shafted.

And where the online co-op!!??

snowilli

Fact 2 features some very flawed/oversimplified logic though.. So there was virtually no work involved in adding GH 1 tracks?

What if they had to remaster them?

Did they have to re-record or tweak the bass/rhythm sections for co-op?

Did they have to sync songs up with the environment in each arena?

How about GH2-izing them beyond just the rhythm or bass in co-op? (3 note chords, HO/PO ect - Not that anyone has actually purchased the packs to let us know if anything has changed!)

Finally.. what about importing previous animations? If anyone takes time to actually *watch* their guitarist they are fairly intricate in their depiction of playing. Again.. all new work for coop here!

It might not justify the price.. but let's at least not be deluded about what goes into adding "old" songs.

niledeltadisco

So much for the promise of DLC

angry_gamer

from the guitar hero forums - it seems petitions are the new hotness.

What The Geek

Scazza

Me? I think it's a bit overpriced but that fact doesn't personally offend me.

rluzinski

Dr. Steve Brule

The iTunes model would have been nice.

I think that the best way would have been to treat it like a retail game digitally downloaded. All songs from GH1 for 3800 MS points. That would have been the sweet spot and they would have had more people buying it that way than any other way.

Distro to stores too, $49. They make more money on the digital, and they get more coverage.

They dropped the ball HARD here. I won't be buying 1 song.

BrywalkerX

I very much doubt it. Music companies do not loosely give away licensing rights. The terms of the licence will almost certainly have been strictly delineated, single platform and possibly time limited. That said, PS2 has a far bigger install base and as others have pointed out much of the work on converting the songs to GH2 format will already have been done, so charging more than for GH1 is insane.

cdammers

At 500 MSP for a pack of three songs, the pricing is a bit high. I want to abstain from purchasing the song packs to send a message to Red Octane that this pricing is not acceptable. However, the lure of some awesome songs from GH2 being in my GH2 is probably too much for me to ignore.

What is a gamer to do?

The only way that publishers will listen is if we vote with our wallets. For the most part, they don't care what people on blog comments or forums are saying about this, they care about how many people actually *buy* the song packs.

Maybe I can hold out until they modify this pricing structure. But probably not. :(

RedFive

I figured itd be bad, but this is just stupid.

aphexacid

MonkeyBiz

Are you not aware that they said the first songs to come out for download would be the songs from GH 1?

I feel like i'm the only one actually reading this site sometimes.

But I agree to the price point here. Especially for old songs that they didn't have to do a lot for. Maybe with having to place markers on the maps for new ones, but old ones should have been dirt cheap/free.

Amsterdaam

Warning! Warning! 360 FANBOY ALERT!

marshmallow_fields

And here I was kidding myself when I bought this game thinking that these download packs were going to be the shit... Well I guess I was kinda right, they are shit. AHHHH I'm pissed!!

NiteRydr

Why is it konami can charge a reasonable price but activision/ms has to rape everyone on guitar hero tracks? My guess would be that it has nothing to do with licensing issues and a lot more to do with guitar hero's popularity compared to that of karoke revolution

terryboot

So if someone gives you the choice of being hit with a cinder block or a hammer, this is a good thing?

I know that's a bit drastic, but if we the consumers accept the "choice" of overpriced content, the situation will only get worse over time. If these three packs sold extremely well, the next three might cost 100 points more. If you just lay back and say nothing about things like this, the situation will only get worse. We live in a world where the companies we purchase from can hear our opinions on their products - don't look down on anyone for sharing that opinion. Also, don't be afraid to share your opinion - consumers now have the power to make changes in what they buy, how they buy it, and how much they pay, and this is a good thing.

Sorry for getting off topic there.

What The Geek

Fact #2 - The developers didn't have to do anything to these songs, that work was done for the PS2 version of them. All they do is put them in a folder that GH2 already knows to look at and load extra content (an ability that's development was paid for, see fact #1).

Point #1 - You should only be paying for the license to use the song on a new platform (I don't even want to start the debate about whether or not I should have to if I paid that license on the PS2 or own the cd the song is on).

Point #2 - MS should be paid for the use of their network infrastructure and bandwidth, but that shouldn't be much.

Point #3 - Sure, some fat cat Music Industry mogul and MS needs their wheels greased, but if iTunes can pay the license and cover their bandwidth costs for $1, then why can't MS/RO do the same. I could see $1.50 for a new song, extra cost going to the work it tacks to set up the tracks, but they are just ripping 360 GH2 owners off.

SpcmnSpf

Otherwise they can shove it. I'm not giving 'em a penny.

interstate78

Well maybe not so much. In 2 of the cases I'm aware of(Geometry Wars, Gears of War) Microsoft is the publisher of the game and has every right to set prices for DLC. There's no expaining away the Marble Blast Ultra situation though. ;)

On topic: Any company that believes charging more than the cost of the original game for downloadable content needs to do a reality check or get out of the business. This kind of BS ruins your reputation.

aka Bitter

So by your logic MS makes no money on DLC?

Let's look at it a different way - Publishers may set the price, but gamestop sets their own mark up. They make between 12% - 20% per game. Do you think MS doesn't want to make the same sort of profit for selling content on marketplace? Do you REALLY believe that MS is so charitable that they don't need a cut even though the content is hosted on their servers, and delivered through their console?

It's business. MS wants a cut, and that affects the overall price of the content. They may not set the price, but they do have a hand in it.

What The Geek

Scazza

As "ichiban1081" said, MS is about choice. It's always been about choice. Whether you want to buy the eilte, core or the premium it's YOUR choice. It's not like they're getting rid of the 20 gig and saying, now you have to spend $600 to buy a system. When has choice ever been a bad thing?

Sorry for going off topic.

latefee_910

This is different than the Gears situation because there MS *was* the publisher. They also happen to be platform provider as well, but again, it's the *publisher* that sets the prices, not the platform provider, as people keep thinking.

JCRooks

ichiban1081

Frankenjam

Basically, I don't think there was any 'porting' at all. They're data files, not code. They had to make a few more midi files for the extra note sets, but that's it. It's cool that they're making the songs available, it's not cool how much they're charging for them.

At this point, Mass Effect might be the 360's last chance to earn a spot in my house.

Rallion

You vote with your dollars. By the looks of it 1 out of every 20 of us is jazzed about the pricing. So instead of making $1 out of nearly everyone here. They will now earn $2 from 5% of us. Way to go Activision and MS, way to go.

I for one was very excited at the prospects of downloading content for GHII, it's why I waited to purchase the 360 version. Now that I see the songs are $6.25 for 3 where only one song in each pack appeals to me. I'm sorry but I have better ways to spend my money. That is a monumental rip-off. It wouldn't have been so bad if I could have at least chosen what three songs I wanted, or purchased them individually for roughly the same price, but the method that was used here is not consumer friendly.

Shame on MSFT and ATVI. This further proves that publishers don't give a damn about the people who buy their products. If they did they would put their best foot forward in making sure games where polished before hitting retail and then price them fairly when they do.

mrWalrus

1) I do not in any way feel ripped off for my purchase of GH II on the 360. I'm getting a ton of play time with it and really enjoying it.

2) For me personnally these packs are over priced. I know some ppl with defend the price saying that songs on iTunes are $0.99 cents and on GH more effort is needed. However, by that justification the GH II game should have cost me almost $200.

($6.25/3) * 70 = $145.83 + the guitar which is about $50 = $195.83

So I'll say it again. I'm disappointed that I won't download new songs due to the price however, I am not disappointed in my GH II. Anyone that tries to claim differently should consider that with the PS2 version there was never an option to add more content so should all of the GH fans on the PS2 have been disappointed before they even bought the game?

Munkey_Funk

While I have no evidence, I SUSPECT that the original license probably allowed for cross platform distribution. It would have made sense to leave a back door open for expansion of the franchise. Perhaps, however, digital distribution did need to be renegotiated. I still HIGHLY doubt that even with the cost of a new license, $2 / track is justified. As I said before, at a more reasonable price, more tracks would sell, adding to the net profit - in other words, everyone gets paid for everything if the price is a little lower, because if the price is a little lower, more people will buy it.

What The Geek

I hope this goes over as well as Horse Armor, causing someone to wise up and make subsequent DLs more reasonable.

Binx

I have no intention of paying these outrageous prices, but I do feel the need to point out that we're assuming a level playing field with regard to licensing and costs that may not be in evidence. The licensing for GH I was for inclusion in a game, not for online distribution over an international network....there may be differences in how the contracts work. The amount of work required to adapt these songs would have been minimal, at best, but there may be new costs associated with bringing them to XBL.

One hopes the widespread outcry will show Microsoft that the public already has a pretty strong perception of value for added content and how price sensitive we are. Clearly, Bill Gates and I have differing defintions for the term 'MICRO-transaction'. :P

WizarDru

TRT-X

Rockbot

How can you justify the more expensive (and IMHO) uncomfortable guitars (that half are defective!)? How can you justify more expensive graphics on a rhythm game?

The songs might be old, but Xbox people have never had Guitar Hero. They should still be 200 points.

Justin

When people aren't willing to spend what's basically a GIFT card on your product because they feel like they're being ripped off (despite having to pay nothing), you better start worrying about your damn business practices.

ilyag

It's like Luminus HD all over again.

FoxHoundADAM

Does it not dawn on you that you can turn that on it's head?

i.e. When buying the iTunes tracks, you can use the track on your MP3 player, and on your PC and even burn it to CD. All sorts of functionality you WONT be getting from your Marketplace download.

Admittedly this is not expected content from a game, but when you're paying above the normal price, you'd expect extra functionality to be thrown in. Maybe let me listen to my tunes through the 360 Dash?

.digiwalsh

edgey

soooooo.... what you're saying is that they PORTED the rhythm into the GHII game engine, and that makes it ok to charge over two dollars a track for them?

Let's look at it a different way - let's say you're going to buy a pure bred golden retriever puppy for $300 dollars. Is the puppy worth $350 if I put a little sweater on it before I sell it to you?

Look, I'm not saying that the tracks should be free or anything, but they're trying to make an exorbitant amount of money on a product that required little investment on their part.

Look at it this way - at $6.25 for three songs, the 47 original tracks from GH would cost you around $96 (?) dollars - would you pay that much money for Guitar Hero 1 for the 360 without the guitar?

What The Geek

Darkest Daze

u friggin' baby!!!!

so what u don't like the price of the downloadable songs?

don't buy em!

and you still have gh2 for the 360, whcih is the best version of the game right now with 10 more songs and leaderboards (which i kinda like), so u wanna take it back because u don't like the price of three songs you don't have to buy for a game that already 74 songs?

grow up!

PrestoMovie

KaneRobot

if these were new songs that people wanted, i bet there wouldn't be as much complaining.

PrestoMovie

Either way, whoever is to blame needs to get a grip.

Scazza

i have gh2 for my 360, and i have absolutely no regrets.

46.25 for a song?

i don't like the songs anyways, so i won't buy em.

people, stop whining! you don;t have to buy the songs!!!

when new songs come out that you like, if you like em enough, you;d buy em.

i'm still happy i got gh2 for my 360, cause the controller won't need any upgrading cause of it's extension port for the stomp pedals, and it has 10 more songs, which are really fun to play.

PrestoMovie

a) Even if you feel these songs are priced outrageously, that's no reason to not pick the game up at all. The game is great, and alot of fun.

b) Of course these are going to be more than iTunes tracks! You're not just paying to be able to listen to the music - you're paying for a video game. There is alot of work that goes into putting every song in the game aside from just licensing the music.

c) These aren't just the same tracks from GH 1. Each song has been updated to GH 2 style - meaning multiplayer modes, training modes, bass parts, etc.

phnord

Gadgetron

You don't know that. It has been well-documented that some developers wanted to give content away, but MS didn't let them. It's clear that, even if they don't set the prices, they have a hand in the decision.

Plus if you think about it 2 dollars a song is far. It's a dollar on iTunes and now you put in the time to devolep the song so it has the right rythm parts with update graphics.

No, it's not "far," nor is it "fair." It's a cover version of the song, so the rights can't be more costly than the original. The meat of the "devolep"ment of the gameplay is already done from Guitar Hero.

Your spelling is on par with your understanding of the situation. I'd advise you to sit back and just read from now on.

KaneRobot

That's nice and all, but let me take a minute and refute your comment.

"Microsoft didn't set the pricing people. The publisher is."

I'll leave the grammar alone, but MS has an impact on pricing - as I said before, Bizarre wanted Geometry wars to be free - a gift to gamers, Microsoft insisted on it costing money. Been reading any gaming blogs in the past week? Same thing happened w/ the upcoming gears of war map pack.

"Plus if you think about it 2 dollars a song is far. It's a dollar on iTunes and now you put in the time to devolep the song so it has the right rythm parts with update graphics."

In addition to ignoring your grammar, I'll also ignore your spelling. Most of the work for these tracks is already done. All of these songs were included in Guitar Hero 1, so really, they only had to be ported to the 360 - not developed from scratch.

"Why should it be $1 because of iTunes. That arguement is stupid because you can't use just a mp3 to play a game. It's not background music. It't what makes the game."

Continuing to ignore both your grammar and spelling, I almost agree with you there - comparing an itunes MP3 to a Guitar Hero track is an apples to oranges comparison. However, $1 / song is a fair price for GH tracks that were developed long ago, and licensed long ago. The work has already been done, the pricing is an attempt either by Activision, MS, or both to bleed gamers dry to get the most out of a game they love... and from what I'm seeing here, it looks like very few people are willing to pay it, thankfully.

What The Geek

jsteinbruegge

chinesedentist

embee

$6 for 3 songs that I will likely only play once or twice? No thanks...

It would make much more sense to make larger packs of songs organized by genre.

jslay012

so i should get GRAW for free when i buy GRAW2? that's insane and completely retarded.

TonyRockyHorror

About $1.50 a song does not seem THAT terrible considering that you're getting an interactive song, not just the music itself.

But still. 5 song packs, or genre-grouping would be better.

chinesedentist

People like you is what allows companies to rape us like this. You sir are part of the problem.

radink

Definately not worth it.

godai

k1llm3kwik

However, I will agree with Justin42 that these will sell well because people are willing to pay this for the love of the game. I won't be one of them.

Munkey_Funk

harold

Let's put the blame where it belongs - on MS. Bizarre wanted Geo wars to be free, MS said no. Epic wanted the upcoming gears map pack to be free, and MS said no. I suspect activision pitched this at a reasonable price, and MS went ahead and doubled it. There's no way to justify $6.25 for three songs when you can get the original guitar hero for the ps2 on ebay with all 47 tracks for around thirty bucks.

Furthermore, no one is going to make back the money they want at this price. Think about it -

200 songs sell at $2 a piece for a total of $400
500 songs sell at $1 a piece for a total of $500

Which one pays the bills?

While we're at it, don't blame licensing - I'm sure a deal that allowed for the game to go cross platform was inked in the beginning, meaning that these reused tracks likely cost activision very little to produce.

Phew - I feel better.

What The Geek

Look at the entire Gears of War mess. Yes, we will get the maps free but at sometime down the road.

I wish we knew the portion that MS kept for themselves.

UmaroLovesMilk

Zips

What I don't understand is surely Red Octane have already got the licensing costs and song publishing sorted for these tracks seeing as they were included in GH1.

After paying £70 for GH2, ẁhich includes 75 tracks and the controller, I'm not willing to pay £15 for 9 songs.

If they sold GH2 without the controller, the RRP price would be £50. Working out how much each of the 75 tracks on the disc would be for the price of £50, it would be around 67p per track, including the packaging and material costs as well, so why should we pay 3 times as much for extra tracks, especially when no P&M are used.

Blatent rip-off from MS and they can't blame these costs on Licensing costs. They might as well sell it for a cheaper price or sell each track seperatly, because then people would buy them, therefore covering the "Licencing Costs".

At the moment though from looking at everyone's reactions, they won't be getting much cash for these DL's.

freemonk

Justin42

As someone who plays a LOT of multiplayer Guitar Hero, that was the most exciting part of the GH1 downloads for me - the ability to play the first game's songs in co-op.

It doesn't make the price any better, but it does mean that direct comparisions with "just get the PS2 version of the first game" aren't entirely fair.

BryanLambert

tk.

If you DIDN'T buy GH2 for the 360 but already had a PS2 it's almost the same price to just buy GH1 and 2 for the PS2.. which is pretty sad.

These companies are shooting themselves in the foot by overpricing microtransactions so fast -- the promise was always how digital distribution would make content so much cheaper and easier to obtain... then they got greedy before the market even really took off.

That said, I am sure these will sell just fine and someone from MS will come out in a few weeks and say how happy they are with sales and it just proves how 360 users are motivated to buy when they see compelling content.

I mean, seriously, when has anything on the Marketplace dropped in price to what it SHOULD cost?

Justin42

it's still a lot of points. you could use your free points for 2 full arcade games

dh4645

But think of it like this. GH2 is superior in all aspects to GH1 EXCEPT song selection.

This basically let's you play GH1 songs on GH2, making one killer combination. Plus you can get only the songs you want and skip out on the ones you don't give a damn about. If you like them all then too bad, pony up!

Personally I wouldn't be surprised to see that they eventually release large packs with cheaper prices per song. Think Cosco style discounting.

Eumenides

exprohound

y2julio

Plus all you get on iTunes is the ability to listen to it - you could get this song other places to listen to it. You can't do that with GH2.

My only concerns is that I hope these are with the original bands preforming them. I also wish there were a mode in the game where you could just listen to the music (or maybe an exporter to allow you to dump the songs onto your hard drive so you could listen to them in other games on your 360) - I also hope they eventually decide to package the songs separately for like 108 or so MS points.

Rambo731

Rajio

I'd even look at buying GH1 on the 360 at the "current next gen pricing" of $60. $90+ for the convienience of one disc is unacceptable.

And to all who are complaining here...vote with your wallets. Don't buy the content. They will rework it. Unfortunately I am one of the people who in the past added fuel to the fire by buying Limited editions of games at then $60. They saw we would pay that price...and now it is the norm. We should continue to voice our opinion but in a manner that is respectful IMO to be heard. BUT the only things companies really hear are the cash registers, so I beg you...vote with you wallets!

Gooche

Reconsidering that purchase now...

pete

boycott microtransactions. everybody.

_sean_

I think I'll be passing that along to the Major...

possiblymalignant

Ouch

fludbucket

"500 points being £4.25, its time for a little BGB Math.

There are 30 cover songs in the original Guitar Hero from The Ramones to Franz Ferdinand, which if continued to be supplied in packs of 3 would equal 10 packs at £4.25 each, a grand total of £42.50 for the cover songs (i.e. not the bonus indie tracks). Seems like a bit of a rip-off to me!"

I agree. Especially as GH1, without the guitar, BRAND NEW, was £30. Shit like this is a reason I'm not buying a SINGLE digital download.

Overlord11001001

Just because songs are covers does not really matter. The song publishing is what can *really* be tricky in terms of licensing. Again, as you guys know I will share the feedback with everyone here, so thanks for understanding and thinking about the legalities of it all.

Deadmeat

radink

Fix it. No excuses, just fix it :)

kryo

So now is it still right to complain about paying five dollars for an old NES game on the VC when you compare it to one song for Guitar Hero II?

LionheartAce

ditchell

yitbos1996bb

cendojr

Disappointing for sure :[

MarquesC

MILFChick

Charge now and give them away in a month or so.

What if GH tracks were 500 when they came out and then lowered the price when new sound packs come out? I'd compare a sound pack to about a movie, which means 250 points or so.

So, 500 now and 250 later? Fair compromise?

Biscuitcleaver

"Remember, these song packs contain *licensed* songs.

I'll pass along the comments."

Deadmeat

PlaidNinja

Oliver Grundy

Scazza

The current 3 packs contain songs that are from the original Guitar Hero, of which there are 47 total playable songs (including lesser known ones), and at 500 MSP per 3 songs, that equates to roughly 8000 MSP total ($99.96 US, £68.00, $132.00 AUD) for just the GH1 songs. What the hell? That includes no guitar, no packaging, no manual and no marketing. I thought digitally distributed content was supposed to be cheaper...

I've always been pretty supportive of micropayments, but damn.

caleb

zombiefrank

Um, they told everyone up front that the first released songs would be the songs from GH1, so 360 users (who never had a release of GH1) could play the GH1 songs.

That said, the price is nearly double what it should be. I won't buy them all (which I had planned to do), but I'm not sure I can pass up Infected by Bad Religion.

mfelps

Kyle81

yitbos1996bb

KaneRobot

Stratovarius

Scazza

BlindsidesDork

Do not buy them. People like you allow this price raping to happen.

radink

T-man

GoingIncognito

TheRockingDead

donth8dre

What a disappointment.

Deadmeat