Chattin' With Goichi Suda About Punks, Killer7 & No More Heroes - Kotaku Comments

Chattin' With Goichi Suda About Punks, Killer7 & No More Heroes

TotoroZoo — Sat, 07 Apr 2007 21:19:36 MDT

I don't care if this gets posted, this was disgraceful... the man clearly considers his games more like art than something that can have FLAWS! contact was a great game, i haven't played killer7 but i'm sure it is a fun game, I hate everyones idea that you have to apply a number to an interactive piece of art. a number rating is a horrible and stale way of looking at something that is special and different. i was really disgusted with this article. my email is michaeltrouten@gmail.com, please email me, because this is something that your site needs to take into consideration in the future. I like how effecient your site is and how often stuff is posted but i'm considering not visiting your site ever again. Maybe that doesn't mean alot to you but how many people leave without saying a word?

TotoroZoo

Chattin' With Goichi Suda About Punks, Killer7 & No More Heroes

Wiseblade — Thu, 05 Apr 2007 11:37:22 MDT

I really like this guy's opiunion on game development.

Wiseblade

Chattin' With Goichi Suda About Punks, Killer7 & No More Heroes

Kazuomi-dono — Thu, 05 Apr 2007 03:54:44 MDT

Great read. This guys got the right attitude as a game maker. Much respect. Look forward to all his future games.

Kazuomi-dono

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MkVTEKKI — Wed, 04 Apr 2007 21:33:05 MDT

He looks like he just said, "Yeah that thing was huge, I still can't get over it. I think Peter has to be with me on this one at least."

MkVTEKKI

Chattin' With Goichi Suda About Punks, Killer7 & No More Heroes

MissingNo — Wed, 04 Apr 2007 20:48:01 MDT

I Love you Suda! ^___^

MissingNo

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NickSoapdish — Wed, 04 Apr 2007 20:07:47 MDT

The industry would be a better place with more developers like Suda51 around. He also seems really well spoken and like some (only some) western developers isn't trying to push that he's really cool.

It's just a shame that his games won't sell more then games like generic WWII shooter 215 and because of that those games are going to get the budget and the marketing.

NickSoapdish

Chattin' With Goichi Suda About Punks, Killer7 & No More Heroes

Brian Ashcraft — Wed, 04 Apr 2007 18:29:34 MDT

Suda is rad, uncut and pure.

Brian Ashcraft

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Tracid — Wed, 04 Apr 2007 18:25:46 MDT

He looks like he's going to kancho someone lol

Tracid

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PhantomVI — Wed, 04 Apr 2007 16:20:04 MDT

Well, if "No More Heroes" is a reference to the Stranglers' song/album from 1977, that would make him really punk, indeed.

PhantomVI

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quen — Wed, 04 Apr 2007 16:11:42 MDT

@CyricZ: Well, people who are 'different' in certain countercultures and may look scary or off-putting are often actually really nice.

I still think he should get pink hair and a nose ring or two, though. :)

quen

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CyricZ — Wed, 04 Apr 2007 15:49:30 MDT

As was said, I was always under the impression that Suda51 was some kind of badass... emo, I guess. Just goes to show that you can't judge developers by their work.

Perhaps it's in the dual nature of the human to be capable both of absolute good and absolute evil. It's nice that his interpersonal skills are on the good side, while his evil side is in his games. ~_^

CyricZ

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coolyfooly88 — Wed, 04 Apr 2007 14:56:10 MDT

thanks plunkett, really want to hear more from suda51 on his idea on gaming in general because i really like the direction his games take.

coolyfooly88

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Luke Plunkett — Wed, 04 Apr 2007 14:40:56 MDT

@kingofallcosmos: He produced contact, Akira Ueda was the main man on it. His new company, Audio, is meant to be working on Contact 2.

Luke Plunkett

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StarStabbedMoon — Wed, 04 Apr 2007 14:02:34 MDT

@kingofallcosmos:
From what I remember, he produced Contact. He didn't have a whole lot to do with the development.

StarStabbedMoon

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kingofallcosmos — Wed, 04 Apr 2007 13:46:17 MDT

He made Contact? That was such a disappointment to me; I wanted to like it, but it required way too much level-grinding. No More Heroes looks great; I only hope that it can have good gameplay, which is the biggest concern for Wii games.

kingofallcosmos

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crustached — Wed, 04 Apr 2007 12:55:44 MDT

So is No More Heroes based on the Stranglers song of the same name? Since this is supposed to be a 'punk game', I think it'd be entirely fitting.. even if the Stranglers weren't really a punk band per se.

Or maybe it's even a nod to Converge's latest album? [Insert pun about 'hardcore games' here]

crustached

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FlapDangerous — Wed, 04 Apr 2007 12:46:48 MDT

suda is a genius. plain and simple.

FlapDangerous

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RedRedSuit — Wed, 04 Apr 2007 12:20:39 MDT

@snazzynick: YES! Wiimote might actually make that game kind of fun to play.

RedRedSuit

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snazzynick — Wed, 04 Apr 2007 12:19:17 MDT

am I the only one who would like to see a killer 7 remake for wii? i would think its perfect for the wiimote

snazzynick

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RedRedSuit — Wed, 04 Apr 2007 12:14:11 MDT

He just has to realize the game has to be playable. I really wanted to like Killer7. I was very interested in the story. But it was just so annoying to play, I had to quit. It was just really bothersome. No harm done, as I picked it up used for $5, which is a statement in itself.

RedRedSuit

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Lider — Wed, 04 Apr 2007 12:08:27 MDT

Suda is the man. Really nice guy and always had great ideas. I wonder what can he come up with the machines of the graphical level of the 360 and PS3. :)

Lider

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stop — Wed, 04 Apr 2007 11:59:51 MDT

Of course, the big disappointment here is the news that No More Heroes might not come out this year! Sigh, I knew that was too good to be true.

stop

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Marasai — Wed, 04 Apr 2007 11:48:57 MDT

My god! this man is the anti jaffe.

Marasai

Chattin' With Goichi Suda About Punks, Killer7 & No More Heroes

dead_red_eyes — Wed, 04 Apr 2007 11:35:46 MDT

What a great read! Suda is indeed a cool guy, and I can't freaking wait for NMH. I really loved Killer 7 ... that was an awsome game.

I still haven't played Contact yet, but I plan on getting it soon.

dead_red_eyes

Chattin' With Goichi Suda About Punks, Killer7 & No More Heroes

josephmcklay — Wed, 04 Apr 2007 11:32:20 MDT

Nice article. I thought Killer7 was great, despite its flaws. I've never seen a picture of Suda51, and I always figured he'd dress up like The Cure. It's nice to know that though he clearly thinks of games as an art form, he isn't pompous about it.

josephmcklay

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phil_fish — Wed, 04 Apr 2007 11:30:53 MDT

goichi suda is a phoney.

i saw his "punk's not dead" talk at GDC.
i was very excited about it, being a pretty big killer7 fan. i was looking forward to seeing what this guy was like.

he kept going on and ong about "punk games" without ever saying what a punk game is exactly. he let us know all the music he likes, like joy division and the wire and such. all POST-punk bands BTW. bands i love too.

but then at the end some indie kid (im an indie too) got up and asked him how can indies make punk games too. his advice was: befriend a powerful producer. get money. get your game on a major platform. his stance was basicly that your game dosent count if its not on a console, and that you just need lots of money to make you sure your game gets done.

so to goichi suda punk is lots of money, powerful producer and major labels.

goichi suda is an idiot.

oh and also, at some point he made alusion to the fact that he dosent take any drugs.

PUNK IS NO MONEY, LOTS OF DRUGS AND NO POWERFUL PRODUCERS.

he could not have said something as far removed from what punk actually is. he was SO completely wrong about everything. punk is a tiny little bar where walls are covered with grafitti and shit. he's just latching on to this "punk game" concept but its ultimatly meaningless. it sounds cool. makes him look cool.

i was about to get up and "ask a question" i just wanted to walk to to mike and flip him the bird and say "fuck you goichi suda". that would have been punk. defiance, filth, punk was a desease. and it IS dead. its wankers like suda51 that helped killed it with their money and producers.

"punk's not dead"...

phil_fish

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PBnZelly — Wed, 04 Apr 2007 11:23:14 MDT

So cool. I'm really looking forward to No More Heroes. Love Killer 7, I just need to finish it. I like his attitude and his outlook too.

PBnZelly

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SuckerPod — Wed, 04 Apr 2007 11:23:08 MDT

Rumor has it he's going to announce another game he's working on sometime this Summer. Hopefully it's "Project S" with Kojima. If not, I'd settle for a Contact sequel on either Wii or DS.

SuckerPod

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nitro734 — Wed, 04 Apr 2007 11:22:07 MDT

Its people like Suda that this industry is lacking. He does a lot of things i wish more people would do. I absolutely love the fact that he doesn't really use his past experiences to influence his current and future projects. Thats called playing it safe and usually leads to sequels undending (see EA).

Agreed, its hard to make a game everyone likes. I've heard people both trash and praise Killer7 for what it was. Thats fine. Very few games receive universal acclaim. We need more of this 'punk' development from more 3rd party developers.

But in the end, it all comes down to who pays the bills and what they want. Best of luck to him.

nitro734

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Alixsar — Wed, 04 Apr 2007 11:20:27 MDT

Any game with as crazy a premise as NMH and that allows for several different ways to suplex people is a game that I want to play.

Alixsar

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photoboy — Wed, 04 Apr 2007 11:16:18 MDT

I had no idea Suda was such a nice guy, from the Suda51 nickname and titles like Killer7 I thought he would be some sunglasses wearing diva like Itagaki. Kudos to Suda for keeping it real.

photoboy

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phinehas — Wed, 04 Apr 2007 11:08:39 MDT

I appreciate people like this.

phinehas