iceman241

BUHHH!

GoW2 Kicks ass. There is no disputing this.

Draylorn

It's difficult to get fired up about almost *any* full price game, regardless of generation. Lack of reasonably priced games is one of the things keeping me from bothering with the next gen.

sqlrob

As for part II, it sounds like they addressed a lot of issues from the first one instead of taking the entirely easy route and not changing anything at all so they could sell again to the 2million who bought the first one.

And for the record, I think it was a great idea to take advantage of hardware you do know instead of trying to learn everything over again. Clearly this was a decision that came down to playability vs. artwork, and they chose the former. This is obviously to the PS3's disadvantage, but still very beneficial for people who didn't want to pay for a $750 copy of GoW II.

devilmoon

Not only that, the gameplay is just better than 90% of the next gen games available on both Xbox360 and PS3.

fallingdove

As it is; on the PS2 I REALLY want it but it's so difficult to get fired up over paying full price for a last gen game.

I'll add it when it goes "Greatest Hits".

snahfu

BlindsidesDork

how to understand? it looks bad on 46" DLP or very good ? :)

btw, on ps3 soon ps2 games will be upscaled to 720p. :)

CrazzyMan

Mike918

Agree the graphics makes a big difference in the PS2/PS3 case because they'd have to redo everything in HD quality, but they'd also have to rewrite the basic code for a completely different CPU architecture and (I don't know the details about this but am assuming) significantly different GPU.

This game will sell gazillions so it makes sense to release it for a platform on which that's possible rather than one on which it isn't - system-seller or not, not near as many people are going to fork out $550 to play the game as will pay $50...

quen

"Why do you think Sony made a mistake? I think they are doing very well. The ps3 is not selling as good as they intended, however, they are winning the bluray/hd-dvd war. That might be a war that can bring them a lot more cash than the gaming sector. Just imagine the amount of movies dvd sold vs amount of ps2 games sold, I think movies will generate way more revenue."

That's a complex topic is really out of place here.

"How did God of War 1 do in Japan? Does anyone know, I can sense it is quite a hit in North america."

VGCharts lists it as follows:

0.02J 1.32NA 0.31PAL = 1.65M total

http://www.vgcharts.org/worldtotals.php

RedRedSuit

ytdb

Type-E

Type-E

RedRedSuit

Type-E

Or they could have told the developers as soon as GoW1 became a hit that the sequel was going to be the flagship of the PS3.

Again, this is not a mistake as far as raw finances go, or as far as the consumer is concerned. I personally believe, however, that it was a mistake on the part of the PS3 marketing to not have this pushed as a PS3 exclusive title, as I believe this would have pushed systems.

Feel free to disagree, it's just my view in response to the slathering mindset of the PS3 hating folks foaming at the mouths saying that there is no compelling enough game to warrant PS3 purchase.

PapaBear

FightingChance

RedRedSuit

But I don't think it's healthy to our argument to ignore logical and real complaints against our choice in system. It just increases credence to those that DO irrationally hate the PS3 because of Sony's seemingly oblivious PR campaigns of denial and self delusion.

PapaBear

RedRedSuit

TurgidDahlia

StarStabbedMoon

What makes the story interesting is that it makes sense for what happens. It is not like they did a "oh shit we need to somehow make him human" storyline. They used classical world elements to bring that man back to the mortal realm, to bring back the anger which made him insane in the first game. I think it worked rather well.

LostToys

Eventually I wisened up and started a second save file.

iainttha1

I don't want to be a fanboy (fanman? I'm 26 for God's sake!) but to be accused of irrational hate against a machine I shelled out $750 total for so far (games, ps2 memory adapter, and extra controllers for local play) just twists my nipples the wrong way.

Not that there's a RIGHT way... Of course not. That'd be sick.

PapaBear

As much as I dislike Sony, and really don't want to buy a PS3, when GoW3 comes out for the system, I may have to fess up and buy one.

omgJOHN

Polyh3dron

RedRedSuit

True enough, it wasn't a financial mistake. They made their money off of it, so I guess it's a net-win for them.

But as far as FUTURE sales go... Well, then they better hope people still care when GoW 3 comes out on the PS3.

PapaBear

God of War III is coming, too.

RedRedSuit

Same as my comment to jackal888.

03/15/07 03:20 PM

I love my PS3. But I can accept it's limitations without feeling like it's an affront to my masculinity and personal identity.

PapaBear

Lider

Um... Wow.

Yeah, if you EVER seen me post, I own a PS2, PS3, God of War 1 & 2, and I had a Wii before I gave it away due to abject boredom.

Also, my posts usually entail the fact that I love my PS3, but admit that Sony has made mistakes with handling it.

Let's face it: The first few months of the systems cycle is relying on brand new IP's to sell their console. Not all that successfully, I might add. But an established IP, and a sequel to what is arguably one of the best games of the PS2 being a PS3 exclusive... That would have motivated a least a few people to drop the money.

Yes, it was made by Sony, but it was the actual game makers, lead director, and others that chose to keep it on the PS2, as not to possibly sacrifice what they wanted to do with the gameplay for the sake of learning the new technology.

I believe this was a misstep on Sony's part. It's good for the consumer, no doubt. It's a great game, and a lot more people are able to play it. But for Sony, as a company who's future lies in getting their system into as many homes as possible, this was a mistake.

It's one thing to be accused of being a fanboy. But to be accused of being a fanboy to the opposite side that I usually defend... Man, you were just swinging wildly with that pinata stick, weren't you?

PapaBear

Lots of improvements from the first one including a few new weapons and items. If you loved the first one, you will love this one. If you liked Gears of War, and want to try an Action/Platformer instead of a shooter, you'll probably like this one. If you love over the top gore and stylistic fighting, you'll like this game. If you love games that have those jaw dropping moments of beauty and action, you'll like this game. If you hate all those things, and look no further in a game then the buttons you press to do something, then this probably isnt the game for you.

Aex

"The game is made by Sony. I really hate when a fanboy gets on the comments and says things like you do.Do you even own a PS2? Next time do a little research before making your biased comments. God of War III is already a lock for the PS3."

Couldn't agree more -- you read my mind. That was probably THE funniest "hater" comment I've read in recent memory. The one by papabear, I mean.

Yeah, Sony, another misstep by you -- developing and publishing a game for your own game system with 115,000,000+ install base, only to get lousy 96% average scores. You're so lame, Sony!

RedRedSuit

It'd be stupid of them to pull a twilight princess move. You can't compare the Wii/gamecube graphical gap to the PS3/PS2.

If someone doesn't get an OUTSTANDING graphical adventure on the ps3 they will shit bricks. Because its hardware is significantly better than the ps2.

The wii and gamecube gap is significantly slimmer, due to this it made more sense (and the remote) for them to put it on two systems

clayfu

This game has improved on every aspect of its predecessor and Sony is smart to not cap its profits on this product due to the "small" install base that is the current PS3.

Babygames

Meh.

Spilt_Milk

I agree with you on this one. I liked God of War a lot (except for the platform jumper that was Hades) but I didn't feel that there was anything especially revolutionary about it.

From what little I've played so far of the sequel, it feels like more of the same. That isn't a bad thing at all. If it just continues on in this vein, though, I'm worried that it will seem stale by the end of the game. And yes, I know I've only just started it.

One thing that did kind of bug me was how they presented the story at the beginning. I don't agree at all with the Gamepro reviewer at all that the storytelling is a strong point. Again, I've only just started the game, but the intro story pace seemed slapped together in a hurry: and he's a god but Olympus hates him and Athena warns him and Sparta is attacking a city and they call on him and he goes down but they steal his power and he fights the colossus and then he's killed etc. etc...you get the idea.

Still, it's a great-looking game and I'm still having a lot of fun with the combat controls, so I'll play through it and I'll have a good time. I just don't think it deserves such high marks for innovation.

Dervish

GoW has visuals so entertaining that you can actually watch a friend play and be satisfied.

FightingChance

Ok, good to know.

etho

OGHowie

And now all the reviews seem to assume that everyone loved te first game. But what if I didn't? Is the sequel the same thing, or is it improved? I really like some of what I've seen for GoW2, but then, I liked what I saw of the first one until i played it. Any advice?

Oh, and I think PapaBear made a valid point, albeit somewhat rudely. If this had been made a PS3 exclusive, it would have shifted some consoles, helping build a better install base. God of War 3 won't have that opportunity since it will be released a couple years down the line, so the install base will, probably, not be growing as quickly. However, I wouldn't necessarily call this a misstep on behalf of sony. The ps2 is successful enough that this game is still going to make them a lot of money.

etho

hmm, well personally i dont REALLY mind that they lock you in a room during a huge fight. i think that making it through a huge fight full of enemies is a decent challenge, and im kind of glad that they dont give people the option of always just running away. thats kind of like cheating, in my opinion. sure, the fighting can get a little tedious, but theres enough combos and moves that its the closest to perfect fighting/action game i've played. so i cant complain at all.

joelface

It would have been the mythical "system seller" that the PS3 desperately needs, though. GTA and MGS put the PS2 in everyone's homes, Guitar Hero and GOW got it in the late comers (like me), GOW 3 should be the game that finally gets PS3s flying off the shelves.

Assuming Halo 3 doesn't render the argument slightly moot.

cendojr

SotC still wins for me, but they really put some nice effort into the visuals and major battles here.

Khaman

jackal888

DigitalHero

Don't get me wrong, I love the game, but that wouldn't add much to the discussion, would it?

Dudes_McGee

Perspex

chinesedentist

Necroscope

I know the developers wanted to keep it on PS2, so as to focus on the game and not the new technology, but throw enough money at them and you would have changed their minds.

PapaBear

JH315