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Electronorgtechnica — Fri, 09 Mar 2007 21:52:34 MST

Does anyone else hate the idea of controlling a fairy that guides Link where to go? Just watching a useless fairy flying around the screen, leading Link sans D-pad control makes me cringe. It's a bad, gimmicky idea. Why do they have to experiment with the handheld titles? Can't they take them just as seriously as the console games?

itcomesinwaves: Pacman VS. is the bomb! Just hearing Mario say things like "Pac-Man ate a power pellet!" made it worth the purchase, IMO. :)

Oh yeah, and I love the Wind Waker art style.

Electronorgtechnica

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tam — Fri, 09 Mar 2007 19:21:59 MST

w00t!

tam

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Narsil — Fri, 09 Mar 2007 16:27:05 MST

@goomba478: What the hell?
Do you see any of these games OUT? Do you even see a release date for them? dangling a video in front of out faces does not give us a new game to play. That's what the drought is all about.

Sorry for the double post, but just what the hell man?

Narsil

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Narsil — Fri, 09 Mar 2007 16:23:26 MST

I hate that they are making us wait so freaking long for this game. It's probably already finished or very close to it and they're just sitting on it until Christmas, when they think more people will buy it. God dammit.

Narsil

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OrionTheSmiter — Fri, 09 Mar 2007 15:12:03 MST

Having played Animal Crossing, FF3, Metroid Prime Hunters all using stylus control, I always found myself switching back and forth. But in the end, no matter how natural I told myself the d-pad was, I would subconsciously pick up the stylus and just go. I think its b/c I've got fairly large hands, so the DS-Lite cramps my hands when I play d-pad games (Mario Kart DS was the worst for this.)

@Noob - Hotel Dusk, though great in its own way, was the worst stylus-control I've ever played on DS, so that shouldn't be representative of a typical control scheme.

Oh, and Windwaker's graphics were kick-ass imo.

OrionTheSmiter

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egyptiansushi — Fri, 09 Mar 2007 15:10:16 MST

I think the Animal Crossing stylus-walking controls are neat. He's following my stylus omg!!

It seems the stylus controls the fairy which Link follows, which is how I thought Twilight Princess was going to be early on (very very early on, I realized otherwise the first day they announced the pointing fairy).

egyptiansushi

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n00b f. nation — Fri, 09 Mar 2007 12:11:53 MST

Oh man, I'm going to be horribly disappointed if we have to use the stylus to move dude around the screen. I already got a taste of that with Hotel Dusk, and, really, truly, I don't wanna have to do that all through an entire Zelda game. :(

n00b f. nation

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werk — Fri, 09 Mar 2007 07:55:32 MST

I want it NOWWWW!

werk

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Ichidou — Fri, 09 Mar 2007 07:22:55 MST

@mashuren:

Actually, I think the problem with the stylus control in animal crossing was that it took so bloody long for your character to run about, there was also a weird third-person perspective and a jagged frame rate.

If you notice the way that link moves around with the stylus in the video, he seems to be far more nimble than Animal Crossing characters.

I dunno, I hated the idea at first, but I'm willing to give it a shot. I AM hoping that they give alternative controls as well, in case people are misunderstanding me. I just think that the stylus-based controls shouldn't be shot down before they're even tested.

I never played FF3, so I can't tell you anything in contrast to that.

Ichidou

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brieeyeball — Fri, 09 Mar 2007 07:09:01 MST

I liked the GDC2006 PH trailer better, it showed more of what I think the actual gameplay will be like. This seems more like "Remind everyone that we're still making PH".

brieeyeball

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16bit — Fri, 09 Mar 2007 06:28:43 MST

@Striderhayasa: I thought this game here was supposed to be WW2, as it's a direct sequel to WW O.o

16bit

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Mezodon — Fri, 09 Mar 2007 06:27:17 MST

@Striderhayasa: WW2? I think it's been stated that Phantom Hourglass is the sequel to WW.

@Sloopydrew: I strongly disagree... I loved both games, but TP was much better than WW, not to mention several times longer.

Mezodon

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AcerBandit — Fri, 09 Mar 2007 05:54:50 MST

Looks excellent. They absolutely need to clean up the model of Link's head though. It looks terrible close up.

AcerBandit

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Sloopydrew — Fri, 09 Mar 2007 05:33:46 MST

This serves to remind me that The Wind Waker was a better game than Twilight Princess. It also serves to remind me that I'm really looking forward to this game. Although, I probably didn't need to be reminded of that, as I was already anticipating the title.

Sloopydrew

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Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live. — Fri, 09 Mar 2007 05:15:07 MST

@scazza

make that three. I loved the Wind Waker style. It's still the best cell shaded game I've ever seen and comes up third on my favorite Zelda list...Marjora's Mask, TP, WW. I hope they actually finish WW2.
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Phantom Hourglass looks great on DS with the exception of the low res textures but that's to be expected on limited hardware. Good frame rate, good animation...it almost looks like the Cube version...almost. The multiplayer looks suspect though. I was hoping for some kind of co-op mode but single player is going to be the reason I pick this up.

Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.

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pillow — Fri, 09 Mar 2007 04:46:12 MST

awesome, was that a "crab cam" i saw there?

pillow

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Josh* — Fri, 09 Mar 2007 04:18:22 MST

Woo, count me in. God knows I need a few more DS games... aside from Phoenix Wright and 'Mon doesn't seem to be a lot going.

Josh*

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quen — Fri, 09 Mar 2007 03:56:41 MST

@mashuren: You would obviously still need to use the stylus for some things such as targetting the boomerang, though. Agreed no reason you couldn't use D-pad for normal movement.

quen

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Polyh3dron — Fri, 09 Mar 2007 03:39:54 MST

My god, this is actually a DS game??? Count me in.

Polyh3dron

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Rhys — Fri, 09 Mar 2007 02:48:37 MST

It's a giant enemy crab! Rub the weak point for massive damage.

(sorry couln't help bringing that back up)

Rhys

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OllySteele — Fri, 09 Mar 2007 02:33:01 MST

This looks amazing for a DS game, im so glad they kept the art style from windwaker.

My girlfriend just commented on the games title though, she reckons that by saying 'phantom hourglass' you may as well be saying 'ghost eggtimer' :-)

OllySteele

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Megaseven — Fri, 09 Mar 2007 01:16:25 MST

I gotta say the art style is not as good as Nintendo said it would be on the DS. Link looks fugly at the end of that trailer.

But that's okay. I don't care how it looks, I just want it to be pure bad-ass gameplay. And so far, it looks like it's delivering on that front.

Megaseven

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mashuren — Fri, 09 Mar 2007 01:14:33 MST

@cringer8:
I agree. Having the option to either use the D-pad or the stylus, like in Animal Crossing or FF3, would be the best thing they could do.

It would be very foolish of Nintendo to not give players the option of how they want to control the game.

mashuren

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cringer8 — Fri, 09 Mar 2007 00:56:31 MST

^ *don't* have to hold onto the DS

cringer8

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cringer8 — Fri, 09 Mar 2007 00:55:25 MST

@mashuren:

Options are good since each player does things differently. I personally like the stylus for moving my character around. I find I can game for longer (since your thumb doesn't get raw and I have to hold onto the DS). It's also smoother.

Like I said, to each their own.

cringer8

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mashuren — Fri, 09 Mar 2007 00:15:51 MST

@JayDiggler:
No it doesn't.

It's going to work exactly the same way it does in Animal Crossing and FF3: horribly.

Luckily, Square and Nintendo EAD were smart enough to give you the D-pad as an alternate means of control in their respective games.

Since Nintendo EAD developed Phantom Hourglass, too, let's pray they're smart enough to do the same with this game before it ships.

mashuren

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Batmundo — Fri, 09 Mar 2007 00:06:40 MST

I loved Windwaker. It is my 2nd favorite Zelda, after the perfect LTTP (SNES, not GBA).

Batmundo

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itcomesinwaves — Fri, 09 Mar 2007 00:04:23 MST

I totally loved the art of Wind Waker. The game was pretty good, but the sailing got old after a while. This game looks pretty badass. The four player mode looks like it has some PacMan elements to it.

Did anyone else ever play PacMan Vs on the gamecube (with the gameboy advance connector)? One person played as PacMan on the gameboy screen and everyone else played as ghosts on the TV screen. Loads of fun with 3 or more people.

itcomesinwaves

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Toad — Thu, 08 Mar 2007 23:39:46 MST

The music for the trailer is nostalgic. I'm going to go play a link to the past now.

Toad

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JayDiggler — Thu, 08 Mar 2007 22:59:18 MST

You have to use the stylus to control Link but I played it at E3 and it works really well.

JayDiggler

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mashuren — Thu, 08 Mar 2007 22:59:09 MST

This looks fantastic.

Although, dear God, PLEASE don't force me to use the stylus to control Link. I won't be able to play if that's the case.

It looks like it could easily be controlled with the D-pad. Please give us that option, Nintendo.

mashuren

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xerxes7 — Thu, 08 Mar 2007 22:53:55 MST

On it.

xerxes7

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smarterray — Thu, 08 Mar 2007 22:53:32 MST

loved the music

smarterray

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KeithC — Thu, 08 Mar 2007 22:50:37 MST

I can't wait for my tax return - there seems to be countless good games coming out causing that are making me jump for joy.

Hmm.... My only question is - why can't other companies take a 3d approach like this? Sprite graphics may not be the be all and end all, but if you can make it work it is quite the cool style, and 3d games on the DS aren't plentiful (at least to my knowledge - Metroid, Mario, Final Fantasy and...?). The DS really is turning out to be the king of hand helds.

KeithC

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iwanttobeasleep — Thu, 08 Mar 2007 22:50:15 MST

I love the look of Windwaker and Phantom Hourglass is turning out just as awesome. Zelda is one of my favorite franchises because they can have the two conflicting styles of the more light, child-like appearance and attitude of Windwaker, and the darker and decidedly adult aspects of games like Twilight Princess, with both being obviously and seamlessly Zelda.

I just hope they smooth out some of those lines.

iwanttobeasleep

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Blinded220 — Thu, 08 Mar 2007 22:45:05 MST

I cannot freaking wait for this game! It looks like the graphics and gameplay are much more fleshed out than they were the last time we had a look.

Blinded220

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cringer8 — Thu, 08 Mar 2007 22:40:40 MST

I'm so glad I have this reserved. This is going to sell huge.

The Boss vision was really cool. After playing Animal Crossing and FFIII on the DS, I have to say the DS stylus control is *perfect* for RPGs.

The multiplayer is very fun, too (played it at E3).

cringer8

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Zunnoab — Thu, 08 Mar 2007 22:25:15 MST

While delays are rather common from Nintendo, I'm glad the games are not released until deemed of a quality ready to be top notch. Not to go too off topic, I play a lot of a certain MMORPG and its expansions while fun tend to glaringly lack polish and bug testing. It's very refreshing to play console games that are indeed polished.

One need look no further than Tomb Raider: Angel of Darkness or some recent Sonic titles to see console gamers are not very forgiving of a lack of polish in a release. So, while I admit I have far less GameCube games than PS2 games, it's because of that polish Nintendo puts into its games that I always find myself rooting for Nintendo.

Zunnoab

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NovaGreensocks — Thu, 08 Mar 2007 22:17:11 MST

Hyrule Castle BGM back in full [updated] glory! XD!!!

NovaGreensocks

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Scazza — Thu, 08 Mar 2007 22:16:23 MST

Luke ya, I agree with that, I think we are the ONLY 2 people who actually liked wind wakers look. And it translates perfectly onto the DS. If they tried to go realistic I just think it wouldn't have worked.

This is one game that dropped off my radar, and I am glad its still looking to be as great as minish cap (hopefully 6-12x longer...)

Scazza

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theboyfrombrasil — Thu, 08 Mar 2007 22:12:14 MST

I lost my DS, as soon as this comes out I'll get another one. It'll be completely worth it.

Anyone know how long the game will be?

theboyfrombrasil

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ED209 — Thu, 08 Mar 2007 22:09:09 MST

Wow....looks to be more fun that Twilight Princess.

ED209

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Skeep — Thu, 08 Mar 2007 22:06:42 MST

Kondo-san never stops >:[

Is this kind of music possible on the DS?

Skeep

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YCS — Thu, 08 Mar 2007 22:03:34 MST

I just hope they don't mess with the controls. The wii controls made sense, using a stylus to point link in the directions to move doesn't. As long as they give us traditional controls as an option as well, that's all I ask.

YCS

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goomba478 — Thu, 08 Mar 2007 22:00:59 MST

WOW! New Mario Galaxy Video...check. Jam Sessions for DS Stateside...check and now "Amazing Phantom Hourglass DS trailer". I thought I heard people talking about a Nintendo drought...my God could they be any more wrong? This game looks like it mixes the best elements of Wind Waker with a lot of gameplay from past Zeldas (especially a Link to the Past). Oh and the music...incredible! I hope it sounds half that good on the DS with headphones.

Consider me pre-ordering (even if there isn't any release date in sight).

goomba478

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Dynamic_Entry — Thu, 08 Mar 2007 21:59:58 MST

@slacker164:
better than ocarina of time *shudders at the thought of pointy-boobed great fairies*

Dynamic_Entry

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FA-MAS — Thu, 08 Mar 2007 21:58:25 MST

I hope they don't force us to control Link's movement with the stylus (it looks like it though).

FA-MAS

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slacker164 — Thu, 08 Mar 2007 21:55:55 MST

I'll buy it, play it, and most likely love it, but I still think the Wind Waker art style is ugly as hell >_<

slacker164

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nornicle — Thu, 08 Mar 2007 21:55:49 MST

This makes nornicle happy

i'm so glad i have a ds lite. (as of two days ago)

GDC makes nornicle happy, as kotaku is basically updating information every 10 minutes when i refresh as i procrastinate some more.

btw lol @ phil harrison making light of Sony Vs. Kotaku (Sony 0, Kotaku 1) kek.

nornicle

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NighTrekr — Thu, 08 Mar 2007 21:54:32 MST

That looks incredible for a DS game.

NighTrekr

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primetime — Thu, 08 Mar 2007 21:54:25 MST

It's kinda cool seeing the Boss's viewpoint on the top screen.

primetime

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Dynamic_Entry — Thu, 08 Mar 2007 21:49:58 MST

Link looks a bit strange close up, but I guess that's do to the DS's hardware limitations compared to the GameCube. The game still looks amazing considering though.
Isn't this supposed to be coming out in October?

Dynamic_Entry

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Dragoonkin — Thu, 08 Mar 2007 21:48:35 MST

Give me this. Nowz.

Dragoonkin

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edgey — Thu, 08 Mar 2007 21:47:22 MST

Still hyped for this game. I can't convince myself not to be.

Not looking forward to by screen getting scoffed up though. :(

edgey

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n00b f. nation — Thu, 08 Mar 2007 21:46:59 MST

Ugh, just wish this were coming out sooner. Not until Q4 of this year?

n00b f. nation