Left off the VGCharts.org link
http://www.vgcharts.org/

johnlucas

That's what you call a good problem.
A problem like this sustaining for a period of time is REALLY a good problem because even with time passed demand never subsided.
That means your product is truly loved.

I don't think any company can fully prepare themselves for an event like this.
They always err on the side of caution because too much optimism bleeds into delusion.

Reggie's part of the reason why this hype overload reached critical mass. He's done his job well. Maybe too well! Now it's all up to Nintendo to match this crazy demand.

Obviously the quality of the product keeps people patiently waiting for the supply.
Read VGCharts.org.
Wii's already reached 5.49 million. It has already approached and PASSED the halfway point of XBox 360's sales in less than 4 months!

And take a look at the Americas figures.
Wii: 2.15 million
XBox 360: 5.77 million.

Wii is creeping up on XBox 360's halfway point of total Americas sales in the short span of 4 months. It took 16 months for XBox 360 to even GET that figure in the Americas!

And all this with Wii's notorious short supply.
Those who still think this is a fad better wake up.
I TOLD you Nintendo's DOMINANCE was at hand.
Ruling the entire 7th generation WORLDWIDE in both console AND handheld.
It is the WiiDS Phenomenon that I've talked about before on these comment boards.
We haven't seen anything yet. When those blockbuster games start coming out & online takes off in full. Forget about it. There'll be shortages all year long. Reggie better prepare himself. And just wait until they unload those colors on you.

Greatest selling gaming systems of all time, you're looking at 'em. Wii & DS.
And that's not hyperbole.

John Lucas

johnlucas

Boo hoo, the Wii is in the exact same place 360 was at and PS3 is at. Boo hoo.

Skeep

I've actually thought about selling mine. Please Nintendo, show us games that'll renew our faith.

A lot of people feel the Wii's Love, and I can respect that. But we're just left out cold by the games on display. Sonic and the Secret Rings? No thanks. Excite Truck? We got Motorstorm instead. Wario Ware? I've already got one on my Gameboy, and I felt like an idiot playing the Wii version alone. It was compounded around friends, and not in the laugh our asses off good way.

I dunno, are we just sinners? Have we been infected by HD? Do we enjoy our online? I dunno, but we can't help but feel cheated by the Wii as it is.

Psudonym

Loki

zemote

Innotech

Jack Loftus

The console as a whole is a little more powerful than that (it has more like twice as much memory). So, ignoring all the extra features (the new controller, wi-fi, bluetooth, smaller build, lower energy, nicer design, etc.), and ignoring the memory difference, the '1.5' is roughly accurate on a hardware level.

From practical purposes it's utter bollocks and totally irrelevant. If you don't buy into the 'graphics don't matter that much' ethos and insist on stunning HD graphics, you would be an utter imbecile to buy a Wii. If you do agree with it, then you've already signed up to 'graphics that are a little bit better than GC assuming the developers can be bothered to get off their arses' so why be surprised that the system is only a little more powerful? It's the new controller, new operating system (Mii etc) and new games that are what matters.

quen

"Unfortunately, that order of magnitude was only about 1.5 (as opposed to 3.0 for the GC to Wii - last time I checked 3.0 > 1.5)."

No. First of all, order of magnitude is a term that means at least 10:1 by definition. Secondly, anyone that looks at PS2 graphics can tell that they are simply by far in another league over those in PS1. Claiming that the same is true of Wii over GameCube is just totally off the mark, at least for now.

"Everything else that you mention is pretty much just a confirmation of what I said. The "better" graphics (which is highly debatable for launch titles) were mainly due to being able to hold more in the graphics memory. Yes, the GPU had an upgrade, but it was pretty minor in terms of capabilities, just like the CPU."

Absurd. We're talking about a polygon rate increase of something like 50 to 1, a huge increase in CPU processing power (and a complete architecture change, too), pumping up the realistically doable video output resolution by about 4, etc. etc. PS1 was a first-generation 3D processor, basically at the dawn of 3D in consoles. PS2 was initially competing with next-generation PC graphics hardware which was an order of magnitude more powerful than that. What you're doing in this debate here is total revisionism.

"And your comment that it was immediately noticable is absolute rubbish. The first PS2 games looked almost the same as PS1 games, if not a little worse in many cases."

It is completely and utterly ridiculous to claim that, say, Unreal Tournament (PS2) could have looked anything near like that on a PS1.

"As for your comment about the amount of storage and playing DVD movies, that's EXACTLY WHAT I SAID. They replaced the CD drive with the DVD drive. Adding DVD movie support at that point is actually very minimal from a technology standpoint."

It doesn't matter if you said it or not, nor does it matter whether it was "easy" or not. It was a storage increase of 10:1, allowing for a different kind of game development. That is major.

"And if you still believe that a video game console being able to play movies is honestly that big of an innovation, I'd like to introduce you to the 21st century, where even at the time of the PS2's launch, you could buy a standalone DVD player (that played movies at the same quality of the PS2's crappy DVD playback) for under $50 at just about any retailer."

Bullshit. At the time, it was a very big deal, and there was no way to buy a DVD player for under $50. Now, of course, it's totally irrelevant; but, at the time, it was not.

RedRedSuit

Well I think they thought it would be a success, they had 4 million manufactured, even by reasonable estimates that should have been plenty.

They have also been making the DS Lite for almost a year and those are still scarce.

Lou3000

Yes, the PS2 was an order of magnitude more powerful than the PS1. Unfortunately, that order of magnitude was only about 1.5 (as opposed to 3.0 for the GC to Wii - last time I checked 3.0 > 1.5). Everything else that you mention is pretty much just a confirmation of what I said. The "better" graphics (which is highly debatable for launch titles) were mainly due to being able to hold more in the graphics memory. Yes, the GPU had an upgrade, but it was pretty minor in terms of capabilities, just like the CPU. And your comment that it was immediately noticable is absolute rubbish. The first PS2 games looked almost the same as PS1 games, if not a little worse in many cases.

As for your comment about the amount of storage and playing DVD movies, that's EXACTLY WHAT I SAID. They replaced the CD drive with the DVD drive. Adding DVD movie support at that point is actually very minimal from a technology standpoint. All they had to do was purchase a license to use a DVD movie codec within the firmware and add probably a minimal amount of code to the OS to get it working.

And if you still believe that a video game console being able to play movies is honestly that big of an innovation, I'd like to introduce you to the 21st century, where even at the time of the PS2's launch, you could buy a standalone DVD player (that played movies at the same quality of the PS2's crappy DVD playback) for under $50 at just about any retailer.

motoyugota

With the Wii, things are looking different. I thought I would be having one by christmas, and the waiting hasn't stopped.

I gave myself a kick in the head last week and actually preordered. Delivery is expected sometime next month.

Yeah... demand has been tough.

Swegamer

I want the wii because of its cool controls and for Nintendo's first party games. The magic of the wii is that Nintendo has positioned itself so that the graphical prowess of their consoles aren't that important. Many of their games feature cute, stylish, cartoony graphics that are fun to look at. I bought a Gamecube after years of playing Xbox and I was amazed how "pretty" Zelda was.

With the wii, Nintendo recognized that they could keep costs down by only slightly increasing the graphical power of the wii. In the area of "Next Gen HD" graphics, this was a bold decision but it looks like it was the correct one. Nintendo could get away with that because they know how to make pretty games with less power. As a result, the wii is cheap enough to justify buying it without having to budget for it and that's something Sony and MS hasn't done.

So, Nintendo fanboys, when you say, "Graphics don't matter!", don't do so defensively but proudly! :) Nintendo earned the right to say that about their games.

rluzinski

Same here. Nintendo was bringing something fresh and at a very palatable price point. I am not at all surprised by the Wii's success.

Qui-GonJim

I'm sorry, but calling Crackdown a very lengthy and fun game is just wrong. Fun it is, I give you that, but long ? Not by any stretch of the word. You pay 60 euros / bucks for what, 6 hours of single player fun ? That amounts to 10 euro / dollars per hour, not good enough for me.

Giladas

Deviant101

Even if the Wii is "just" a GC 2.0 who cares?? it's selling like hotcakes or siopao (chinese bread very good!)

The controller is the one which makes it innovative.
I don't have a Wii yet but I'm looking forward to what Nintendo will be doing with it.

That said, I do have issues with some of the graphics I've seen (yes I'm a graphics whore).
There's nothing wrong with liking beautiful,dazzling eye candy.
There's no rule that a game can't be eye pleasing and fresh,fun all at the same time.

Oh and YES!!! Reggie does need a new hairstyle/haircut!!! a semi mohwak perhaps??

excaliburps

@motoyugota:

"Except that in that case, there was even less of an upgrade between systems. The PS2 was basically a PS1 with a DVD drive and more video ram.
"

Sorry, but no.

PS2 was an order of magnitude more powerful a console than PS1 in terms of processing ability; it increased the games' resolution; it increased 10-fold the amount of storage on the disc it could play; it could play DVD movies; and it had an expansion bay and USB slots. In terms of everything EXCEPT CONTROLLER (which is very important!), PS2 was a far bigger evolution over PS1 than Wii is over GameCube. The difference between PS2 graphics and PS1 graphics were obvious at a first glance; the same is just not true of Wii.

RedRedSuit

"Except that in that case, there was even less of an upgrade between systems. The PS2 was basically a PS1 with a DVD drive and more video ram.
"

Sorry, but no.

PS2 was an order of magnitude more powerful a console than PS1 in terms of processing ability; it increased the games' resolution; it increased 10-fold the amount of storage on the disc it could play; it could play DVD movies; and it had an expansion bay and USB slots. In terms of everything EXCEPT CONTROLLER (which is very important!), PS2 was a far bigger evolution over PS1 than Wii is over GameCube. The difference between PS2 graphics and PS1 graphics were obvious at a first glance; the same is just not true of Wii.

RedRedSuit

It's fun... for a short while. Zelda is the only game worth playing that doesn't rely on the limited novelty factor of family members trying Sport at xmas. And once you've finished Zelda, what's left is a bargain bin full of mediocre titles.

Wake up and smell reality folks.

Stormflood

Why not go dig up some morsels from when Nintendo had a surplus of Gamecubes and was being cagey about having shut production down?

As to them somewhat limiting supply. I do agree there is a financial downside to not selling units, so generally you want a good supply. However, when a system is new and has a poor game lineup, it can be advantageous to leaving people wanting rather than let them get a unit and find out there isn't a lot of fun to be had with it right now.

PS2 benefited from this for example. It was difficult to find for months. People still wanted them because they want what they can't have. If they had one, they'd find there wasn't really a lot of reason to own one just yet.

Having people want them leads to good press, having people have them and spreading word there is little to play right now doesn't lead to good press.

I, like several others on here have a Wii and nothing to really play on it right now.

br549

Big_Jock

mateo

Well, I was sort of more taking a shot at Sony there more so than at Nintendo. If the Wii launch was a failure, I'd be criticizing Nintendo for producing a crappy console that no one wanted. And if they started talking about "shortages" when none existed, you can bet I'd be critical of that as well.

That being said, I'm console-neutral. Sure, I like Nintendo's franchises, but I probably own even more PS2 games than I do Gamecube ones. I go with where the games are... At some point, I'll get a PS3 too once there are more games that interest me... there are a lot of great exclusive games that will eventually be out for all of the consoles... I won't want to miss them.

leshrac55

y2julio

"And yet no one does bash them."

You're kidding, right? First of all, this thread seems to indicate some level of dissatisfaction. Not only that, I've owned every Nintendo system (save the Virtual Boy) and I, and probably every other Nintendo owner, have complained about the absolutely everything Nintendo has done... whether it's Virtual Console pricing, the recent revelation about online play (not coming for 3rd parties in 2007), the "Wii" name, the lack of HD, the "mini-dvds" for GCN, continuing with the cartridge format for the 64... There's no end to the problems and complaints that people can point to.

The worst part is that we think they'll fix something or prove us wrong in EVERY generation. With the 64, we thought "Maybe Nintendo's onto something with these cartridges" after seeing Mario 64 in action. With the Gamecube, we thought "Maybe they'll get back their 3rd party support now" with Capcom signing on for some exclusives. And with the Revolution/Wii, we thought "Maybe this new remote will actually be really fun" and "Maybe their 3rd party support is coming back now" and "I can't wait to play all of those classic games" and "Well, maybe 480p with some better graphics is good enough" and "Online play out of the box!" and "At least they have a DVD player this time" and "Maybe this will actually attract more casual gamers" and "A 2-3x more powerful Gamecube can't be more than $200, right?"

Of course, some of these already didn't come true, some are more true or disappointing than others, and some have yet to be determined. While every Nintendo fan always hopes that Nintendo gets their act together, in the end it almost doesn't matter, as every Nintendo fan already knows exactly why they buy Nintendo hardware: Nintendo games.

Sure, some of the other games that come out for the systems can be good. I know I picked up a few other games for the Wii such as Elebits and Rayman. But, these games aren't really why we bought the system... we bought it because we want to play Nintendo games. I know I bought it so I could play Zelda (despite the fact that it also came out for the GCN, I wanted the widescreen support, and also did end up really liking the motion controls). If Zelda weren't available yet, I'm fairly certain I wouldn't own the Wii just yet, just as I didn't own a Gamecube until after the first price drop (and after Super Smash Bros. was available).

Nintendo is nothing if not a frustrating company for its customers... While I definitely don't regret my purchase, it's an open question as to whether there will really be a substantial amount of 3rd party software worth playing, or whether Nintendo will once again be (nearly) the only ones proving the worth of their system. That may be enough for us fans, but once again, we'll be disappointed with what could have been.

-Leshrac
http://alinktothefuture.com

leshrac55

They had up to 1/2 a year (6 months) of 2006 to make the 1st 4 million, so 3 months would be around 2 million. They should be able to ramp it up, however 6 million seems conservative.

Skeep

If Wii had been a bomb, you would be whining about over-shipments. No way to please the fanboys, huh?

Skeep

Well, considering GCN had the most power last gen, Wii has 3x that.

Skeep

Also to make NinjaBall happy:
Nintendo you screwed up so bad! Nintendo is so ghey they can't make more gamecubes. You f'd up now you're gonna fail! lol!

NickSoapdish

Infil

But this game doesn't do it for me...maybe next time for the SSX series.

BTW, I could care less whether the Wii 1) has better games than the DS 2) better games than Sony 3) better games than Microsoft. Whether Nintendo lies less than Sony or eats less children is irrelevant. I want the Wii to fulfill the promise of its early popularity by pushing the envelope with 3rd parties as well as Nintendo's own games. Holding Nintendo to its own high standards should be enough of a challenge.

Waveracr

At least Nintendo has a legitimate problem that we can bash them for.

And yet no one does bash them. All bow before the golden idol of Mario!

TitillatedOcelot

motoyugota

Aside from everything, you've got to admit that Reggie is one hell of a PR man. He manages to put down Sony, hype his product, get consumers excited and assuage shortage fears in just a few short sentences. Sony, are you taking notes? There will be a quiz.

AlexDitto

If the Wii continues to succeed like we've seen the DS do, it will soon be extremely hard to not have several solid reasons to pick one up. Brawl alone will sell millions, and Nintendo no doubt has some surprises.

In the meantime, there are some solid titles available for it now, and Nintendo can't even make enough of them to satiate demand. Their Wii strategy so far has been successful.

I've also heard that SSX Blur is a pretty solid game. Maybe if you're an SSX fanatic and you're used to button presses it might be tough to get accustomed to, but most reviews seem to recommend the game and say the Wiimote is a good fit.

Infil

As for the Best Buy I work at, last month we gotat least 2 shipments of 6 or more 2 weeks in a row.

Justcrim

Every online retailer was out of stock last week, except Wal-Mart... Who was selling them for $650!

AgentTofu

ootler

ootler

DarkNight_DS

I find the carving to control EXTREMELY well, especially if you tweak settings to favor motion over the stick. Motion-balancing on grinds is also damn fun.

Tricking in Blur is basically button mashing, but that just isn't a problem to me. Once you get used to nailing the ubers, it feels a lot less random, too. It took me several long sessions, but now I hit them with decent regularity. It's not 100%, but it's getting closer.

typoink

Judging from how Wii games look, that just puts how craptacular the GameCube really was.

K-OSS

sweetie55

Darkest Daze

I'll clarify my comment by saying that the lineup beyond Nintendo's own games looks only OK to me, and even those are a mixed bag for the next few months. Animal Crossing, I'll get psyched for if it really is a new game this time...I'm currently playing it as a daily diversion on my DS, but I'd like the Wii version to make some advances.

For casual gamers, this is a revolutionary console and worth the hype, and for Nintendo fans, it's a great purchase as well. I'm on the fence until I see more games implement the motion sensing in as creative and eye-opening a manner as Wii Sports...a bunch of shovelware, ports, and half-assed Wiimote implementations by third parties (with little to no online capability) would be disappointing for most gamers.

Waveracr

devilmoon

Except maybe snacks.

d0x

still we got one and its awesome!

crobar

I feel sorry for you, the Wii lineup looks amazing, just from Nintendo's first party stuff alone, from Super paper mario to SSBB

@Waveracr:

So nothing on the Wii's lineup looks good? Not Super paper Mario, Animal Crossing, SSBB, MP3, Galaxy, Strikers, Batallion wars, Forever Blue? You either haven't looked at the lineup, or you're lying about owning a Wii.

@NinjaBall:

They've shipped over 5 million in less than 4 months, it takes time

Avinash_Tyagi

...except the controller. That is the only thing that makes the whole "GC1.5" off the mark. But other than that, that term is not all that inaccurate.

RedRedSuit

The phrase "Gamecube 1.5" was one of the worst things to ever come out of the pre-launch fanboy war. It does a great job as a derogatory statement, but it has no factual grounding. It saddens me that people like you continue to support that misconception.

The Wii (compared to the Gamecube) has a new proccessor, a new video card, more memory, new disc-reading/loading hardware, a new operating system, a new input mechanism, new arcitechture, new development tools, and completely new capabilities. Where does the 1.5 come in to this? The DS Lite could be called the DS 1.5. But the Wii is no more the GC 1.5 than the 360 is the Xbox 1.5 (and that is not a slight against the 360).

I'm not pointing this out as a fanboy defense, though I could certainly be labeled a Nintendo fanboy by some in this community, I'm pointing this out as a rational, thinking person who is just baffled by the stupidity of this ridiculous phrase.

Yamen

Exactly, I just like the games coming out for the PS3 and 360 more. Apparently theres something wrong with that just because Sony slipped up a little.

live wire00029

Goldspire

Islandkiwi

I can't wait to get my hands on a wii but let's not get crazy now. It's an upgrade Gamecube with a really cool controller and a couple really good games (so far).

rluzinski

Applekid

Earthslide

MJDeviant

In this respect, Nintendo has succeeded extremely well.

Funny thing, though, is that I just don't find the gaming lineup very compelling after the initial euphoria. I don't live for party games and downloading oldies, and when I finally found a game to be excited about (SSX Blur), it turned out to be one of the most disappointing purchases I've ever made for any console -- the use of motion sensing in that game is...yes, a gimmick, and a poorly implemented one at that.

Waveracr

If Nintendo is tricking people into buying their gimmick, then I'd be curious to know how you categorize Sony's strategy on the PS3. Rape comes to mind.

harkonnen

It's different from the response Sony gave regarding the PS3 launch in the following ways:
1.) Nintendo admitting there is a problem.
2.) Nintendo telling us they are working on resolving the problem.
3.) Nintendo not head-faking and telling is the issue is something else entirely ("No, really, the reason you see the product on the shelves so much is because we keep the stock so current, not because no one is buying! The demand is unprecendented!").

As for your assumption that there's more to be gained by not producing enough is dubious. I really doubt there's more to be gained in the press saying "You can't buy one" than actually supplying an already existing demand. If they still had to hype the machine, I'd be more inclined to agree with you there.

I do agree with you on the "once they meet demand they have to slow production" angle, though. It just doesn't make sense to over supply temporary explosion in interest only to have production facilities gathering dust when initial interest settles to reasonable levels.

@MJDeviant:

Ah, that is quite the fetching Duck-Hat. And I'll own up to it - I was stone-cold-sober when I donned the festive "Easter Bunny Ears" - no one else in the office had the cojones to wear the baby blue bunny ears (procured by our payroll lady for a birthday party). Someone had to answer the call, and that person... that MAN... was me.

Donner, party of 4... er...3?

Sony outright lies, saying their demand has been unmatched and they would even be willing to pay us if we find PS3... opps, did we say that? Oh we were just kidding! But seriously, we are in demand alot, buy us.

Nintendo is like "yeah, we try out best to get that shit out there, we work with stores to get the shit in the peoples hands as fast as possible, and we are trying to make them perfect and so this shit takes time!"

Its nice being able to sit on the outside of the bubble and see who is bullshitting, and who is blowing smoke up ours, and their own asses.

Although Mcwhetor, I don't think people really are lining up now... are they? Last line up I saw was a month ago for the saturday morning flier, and although the line was large, it only gathered around an hour early.

Scazza

You're right... instead, we get to bash Sony for just saying that they're having shortages when they basically don't exist. At least Nintendo has a legitimate problem that we can bash them for.

leshrac55

Gimmick
1. An ingenious or novel device, scheme, or stratagem, esp. one designed to attract attention or increase appeal.
2. A concealed, usually devious aspect or feature of something, as a plan or deal: An offer that good must have a gimmick in it somewhere.

@Apeofgod and others:

Which definition are you going by? Ususally when people say "gimmick" there is a negative connotation. If you are using it thusly, your comments seem derogatory. But I think you might be trying to say it differently (or perhaps you should be using a different word), so I'm asking you.

Yamen

While I wasn't happy with the fact that they couldn't cross-ship out a Wii that they had already changed the settings on for me (I had to ship it out first since I had a bunch of Miis and had downloaded a single VC title), once I sent it in, it only took about a week to get it back (and the new one is fixed!) Of course, I also had to wait for them to mail the shipping label, which took a week as well. If my Wii had been completely busted, I wouldn't have been able to finish up Zelda for 2-3 weeks, probably.

-Leshrac
http://alinktothefuture.com

leshrac55

Whats messed up (as someone said earlier) is that Nintendo, gets all the love for what? Zelda is a decent game, I personally spent a large amount of time playing it and found it very dissapointing. Wii sports, I thought I'd be into, just like I was with the DS, but apparently not. I want a machine that plays games, not an excersize machine and theres almost nothing interesting coming out for the wii. Wario ware? I'm not spending $50 on minigames that I know I won't be into, I'd much rather add $10 and get a Resistence or Crackdown and get a very lengthy and fun game at the same time.

Gimmicks, it's like the game cube but probably won't wear out as fast as there are for some reason an incredibly short supply.

live wire00029

So in a few months the wii will be collecting dust but in a year it'll be a runaway success?

By the way i'm not a fanboy, i've loved nintendo for twenty years and will criticise them for there many, many, mistakes but the "Gimmick" bandwagon isn't the best way to go about it.

KeyonSumner

The Wii is a gimmick(keep reading after this word) there is no doubt, just look at the titles and you can tell developers don't know what to do with it yet. Like I said, I'm sure that's why Nintendo is releasing it in such small quantities, it drives the market demand for it up and gives them time to develop some quality titles.

It could potentially become the next DS, but right now, just like the first year of the DS, it was a poorly exploited gimmick.

Ape.of.Gods

However,

It doesn't take much to screw up production. The 360's early launch shortages was widely beleived to be related to a German memory manufacturing company that MS contracted with. Not problems with the cutting edge CPU or GPU, just fairly standard memory.

Tyrannical

gaggle64

Trixie

And yes, if this was Sony, we'd be bashing the hell out of them. We bash them because they are now sitting on shelves and we would bash them if they couldn't supply enough.

Absolutely. As I was reading this I was thinking if Sony said the exact same thing people would be jumping all over them. Hell, even I've taken a few swipes at them.

I don't see why they're having such a hard time keeping these things stocked. I know they're selling well, but still they should be able to either up the frequency of their deliveries or at least ship more units per delivery.

TitillatedOcelot

except my circumstances have changed significantly since xmas, and i cant afford it any longer. bummer. had to say no.

aestheticity

I'm happy I've got my console (and full wiimote and nunchuck set) so I don't mind.
Reggie this isn't how you promote shelves being empty! Offer $1200 to anyone who can find one!

NickSoapdish

I did. Seriously, I saw the huge popularity of the Wii coming from a mile away. I know it sounds cliche now, but the Wii really did look to be the console extension of the DS, and I expected it to preform similarly.

Yamen

KeithC

feeling bitter because the "Gimmick" is crushing the competion? Don't feel bad, the Wii is the new DS

Avinash_Tyagi

Even camping for mine at Walmart, The 29 people in line (only 29 units for the store) stuck up for each other - we made a list, and submitted it to Walmart Management, so we could go grab a coffee, or a restroom break or something inside, and come back and still have our place in line. We even successfully nonviolently defended the first person-in-line's place against a rude person trying to f'nagle his way in line mere hours before the system went on sale (and we'd been there for 15+ hours prior)

Nintendo gamers are a community, a family. We stick up for our own.

PTTSeven

MJDeviant

As much as I want to complain about the Wii's availability, I really think it did better then Nintendo thought. And they shipped a lot, it's just they are selling like hotcakes. And yes, if this was Sony, we'd be bashing the hell out of them. We bash them because they are now sitting on shelves and we would bash them if they couldn't supply enough. Nintendo has a good rep, what can I say? It's not like they aren't going to ramp up production, but really, what can they do for this demand? I will bash Nintendo for their online capabilities at the moment, but I think this isn't really their fault. Low price+ Great reviews+ expanded fanbase = systems moving

MJDeviant

Xagest

Kyle81

Well, what I mean is in games like Zelda it is a gimmick, but in games like Warioware it is not.

Unless the swings match what I am doing with the remote, it is a gimmick. I would much rather have the swings mapped to a button.

There needs to be more games like Warioware and Wii sports where the remote actually plays a part in the gameplay.

Slayer

I plan on selling it soon for a Playstation 3. Already have my 360, so now I'm really set.

:)

live wire00029

I bet you thought that about the DS as well.

Two years since its release and there's loads of them collecting dust.

KeyonSumner

Release in small quanitities creating a higher demand(consumers get irked by saying you can't have one and will put 2x the effort in wantint one) until there is enough games support so the gimmick portion of your consol is over shadowed by solid game support then flood the market so everyone who wants one can get one,6 months later when it's collecting dust, you've already made your money.

Ape.of.Gods

moonfirelol

CalcioFool

giovonti

But honestly, I don't think N has any interest in fully satisfying demand yet. They've seen the press they get from DS lines in Japan and Wii lines here.

Besides, if they ramp up to sell as many Wiis as there is demand for now, they'll just have to shut the lines down once they satisfy demand.

@Mansteak:
When asked about the PS3 shortage (when there was one). Sony said they shipped 1.6M units over Xmas holiday. How is that a lot different?

br549

Koji Otaku

And internal flash memory, and usb ports, and wifi (or bluetooth, depending on what you meant by wireless), and 3x larger GPU.

zealousd

KeyonSumner

Also - Gamecube in a pretty candy shell... only smaller... plus wireless... oh, and updated... and no longer top-loading... oh and not using mini-DVD discs... but yeah, just throw those old GC's into a new box, WHAMMO! Wii!

Donner, party of 4... er...3?

ecto311

RDaneel

Sento Naninaki

@lombot: Still looking for a couple more wiimotes in Illinois

RDaneel

The demand is unprecedented!

edgey

zealousd

Dishliquid

lombot

Avinash_Tyagi

thejakeman has died of dysentry

yashichi8bit

RDaneel

Forthewin