<![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up - Kotaku Comments]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up - Kotaku Comments]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> I am glad this is sorted as well. in the past 6 months i have slowly killed off the Ign,gamespot and other big game websites with their "have to be paying to read this, not have ads thrown up on you sites" I only read kotaku, the "fanboys" of the joystiq network and siloconera. which are all game blogs. These companies need to recognize users of their systems perfer the input of their peers. I always read a big junk of the comments on these post. I also think companies dont see sites like this as real reporters or somthing. Take think secret site, apple sued them or lawsuit to get their news sources to say he wasnt protected as a normal jounalist. I guess if your have a site that takes the form of a blog they just see you as some myspace user or whatever fancy soical network site is trendy.

ashstampede

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Greetings, friends. Short time lurker, first time poster. Please forgive me if I am too presumptuous.

I see a lot of posts with a right/wrong alignment to them, and many who side with either Sony or Kotaku. I disagree with either position.

I think that it would be in particularly poor taste to pass judgement on either side for this incident, because it was no misunderstanding at all. Neither party was attempting to intentionally do wrong, or harm the other. As was pointed out earlier in the thread, both Kotaku and Sony were each standing firm in their beliefs and policies; Sony for attempting to quash potentially harmful or incomplete release of information, and Kotaku for attempting to ensure that their readers have the most recent, most accurate information available.

I am no stranger to corporate propoganda, and I certainly have not had the inside scoop on Sony's politics, but I can say that, at the very least, they are not likely to desire conflict with their consumers. I believe that this is a simple case of two entities believing in two separate and opposite courses of action. Some of my best friends have disagreed with me on a fundamental level, and those friends are the ones who still stand by my side.

I would have to say that I agree with both of you. By all means, Kotaku, keep up the good coverage. But, at the same time, please try to make sure you don't have to step on any toes to do it. Censorship is never fun, but sometimes it becomes necessary to pick your battles.

BlessedWrath

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Kotaku handled this most professionally. While an amateur would have perhaps bashed Sony, the language was kept respectful. Kotaku's reputation as a excellent source of gaming journalism is cemented.

The Commissar

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> At least you've got something new to ask Phil Harrison about that N'Gai Croal hasn't...

FunkyJ

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> THanks Kotaku for standing up against the likes of Sony. I respect you even more as a news source after this. (not that I wasn't before though, but you get the point :P)

It's important that Kotaku and similar blogs doesn't turn into a PR branch for the companies. If the reported material benefits the companies at the same time it benefits the gamers, then fine. But the latter comes first.

InsaneBastard

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Clearly Sony does still have some Executives that have a pulse on what the true gamer wants...maybe this guy should be promoted to run the gaming business! :-)

XgamerM

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Crecente,
Top marks to you for standing up to Sony in the first place, but surely you don't really believe that they did nothing wrong, or that "they were doing their job." That's BS - you know it, I know it and Kotakudom (hell the whole ineternets) knows it.

Sony's job would be to say "No Comment" to rumors. Threats to journalists is NOT doing their job. I don't think it's OK for you to pretend that nothing wrong happened either - it's probably part of your agreement to not make them look like the bad guys that they are in this case.

Maybe they've been taking journo-threatening classes from Jobs & Co.

sethk

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Brian:

I seldom post a comment regarding your stories being that must of the time I find myself in the role of the spectator rather than the player.

I must this time share with you, one of my rare posts to congratulate you and the rest of Kotaku team for the highly professional manner that you conducted yourself through this delicate situation.

You have show us today, in my humble opinion the true essence of Journalism.

I sincerely hope that after such a weekend you and the rest of the crew might find sometime to rest a little and maybe play to your heart content.

May the following months be filled with light, peace and success after all you have been through this last 2006.

Go ahead guys, get some rest and hug your wives, girlfriends or in that case, your pink DS.

Sincerely, Kirth.

Kirth Gersen

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> The fact that sony tried to blackball Kotaku in the first place knocks them down another notch. Man they are starting to set records here.

KineticOnline

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Wow, this is amazing stuff. Sony claims that "people don't want rumble" and that it's "last-gen" in order to spin their problems with Immersion. Then, they admit that they're working on rumble features for the PS3!

They blacklist Kotaku for doing their job, then apologize soon after because they saw the reaction on the internet. Ever since PS3 came out, Sony has been one mistake after another.

I've never been prouder of owning my 360 and convincing two other people to buy 360s instead of PS3s.

M e d i a d d i c t

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Bye Zoph. Nice knowing you. =P

DigitalHero

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Glad you guys got everything works out.

Bomb-Omb

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> @Zoph: if sony is the lifeblood of kotaku or any other gaming journal/blog, then we need to get those MFers to the ER, stat !

plainly, zoph, you're worse than a fanboy . kotaku and other websites should ban all corporate shills like you .

kotaku, good for you, trying to place some sunshine on a dog's ass and beating it over the head when it tried to bite . i'm happy when to entities make nice and all, but really, are formal relations with that kind of dictatorship really necessary ?

beatngu

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> @Z-Word:
It's possible to be calm and rational and still disagree. Calling the Kotaku staffers "childish shitheads" crosses the line of "biting the hand that feeds you" that Zoph himself was talking about. We're approaching black-hole levels of density in the irony, folks.

After chugging though Eleventy-Jillion comments, I'm still surprised by the people still trying to find fault with Kotaku for posting about this. Do they see increased revenue due to increased hits? Welcome to the internet. Did they plan some media shitstorm to stir up ad revenue? I'm calling bullshit on that one. You can't PLAN for another company to make threats to you.

Was it wrong for them to run the story? Again, not even by a long shot. It's a rumor, they ran it as such. If you prefer reading "news" to "rumors", then for the love of all that is good and holy, stop reading BLOGS.

Was it wrong for Crecente to post about the Blackballing? Again, NO. Imagine he stays quiet about Sony threatening to not play anymore - then suddenly theres NO MORE POSTS about Sony. People like kenshin001 and _skitzo_ would then proceed to bitch about further perceived "Anti-Sony bias" from the site.

There's just no pleasing everyone.

Donner, party of 4... er...3?

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Sony can suck it a while longer. I'm going to hold on to my $600.

sayten

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> @ashcraft: Exactly why did you ban Zoph? Was it because he used profanity, or because he was simply being a contrary dick? The latter doesn't seem especially banworthy. In fact, it smacks of Sony banning Kotaku from access to GDC events because they didn't like the story you posted.

It's your house, you can evict whomever you like. But to rail against corporate censorship and then boot someone for being critical of what you do seems like a bit of a double standard. Banning him instead of simply saying "you're wrong" and then ignoring him gives him more credibility than he deserves.

Z-Word

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Great job, Kotaku and good on you, Sony.

Guess I'm going to have to ahead and buy that PS3 when it gets cheaper in two years.

Shumina

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> congrats, kotaku. Good thing sony manned up to the apology after facing potential backlash from the journalistic/blogging world at large. Wait, is that brave or just covering your own butt, Sony?

kliide

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Wow, can't believe the one day I was away from reading Kotaku, was he one day you all stepped into The Twilight Zone.


I'm glad it all worked out in the end.

blankwave

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Good to hear! Hopefully things won't be awkward at the dinner table...

schlizzag

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> There is no good outcome for anyone but Kotaku here.
NExt time Sony, but also Nintendo, Microsoft, Valve and everyone else is going to be much more careful and secrecive toward independent newssite like Kotaku, Joystiq or Destructoid.
The hell, they might even ignore entire bunch and send all important announcements to big boys (IGN). "Kotaku reprints everything of importance IGN posts anyway, so why bother with those small f**ks?" they will say and they will be right.
Or they will deal with the subject in a same way chip companies do - force little fishes to sign NDAs and keep them by the face.

JoeTF

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> HAHA, Sony has been Zumbo'ed!

Atvar

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> man, lochoko pretty much posted what i wanted to. the only thing i will add is that Sony as a company seems intent on taking a giant dump on consumers. from their PR staff to their BMG music unit to their Sony Ericsson line, all of it foists overpriced, underquality crap onto people while installing rootkits on computers and exploding their laptops.

fightinfilipino

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Heh, nice. You stuck to your guns and won. You came out on top. They may have even been bluffing to begin with.

snowferret

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> i'm going to continue hating sony with a passion. anyone who makes a decision without thinking of the consequences and then flips under pressure deserves my loathing.

Paradise

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> I just hope that by "Making Up", Sony just wasn't putting on their game face to try to look better. They may very well lead to hidden animosity and loss opportunity for Kotaku staff members in the future. It just wont be publicized.

Hoagie_one

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> ummm, on second thought... let's cancel that boycott.

PaulMorel

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Hmm. I wasn't sure if I agreed with posting the letter from Karraker. However, this is a gaming BLOG and if people were to come tell me what I could and couldn't post on a my blog, I'd be pretty pissed.

From a jounalistic stand-point I guess it was somewhat feasible to mention that they wouldn't be getting perks since people would be coming here looking for exclusive stuff.

From a business stand-point it was friggin BRIALLIANT on Kotaku's part.

btw...Sony, you there? Stop messing with the public domain and hurry up and make your console worth $600 to a gamer who doesn't give 2 flying frags about Blu-Ray. Tell Square-Enix I want FF13 and I want it now.

majatt

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Too late, Sony. Now everyone knows that you think the media is your puppet, and everyone has to think twice when reading a positive story on Sony. Did the reporter want to write it, or did Sony blackmail him into doing it?

L_K_M

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Still, screw them. PS2 will be the last in my house for now unless something so ungodly comes out that you have to be dead not to want it. Till then I am going to cave in and get the Wii and\or the 360 when I get the last couple bucks for the save up.

Yea I had to save :) I needed an HDTV first hehe, and that was expensive.

Back on topic, I am glad Kotaku and Sony are playing nice though.

Lateef

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Funny that Kotaku has the courage of their convictions, but Sony doesn't. This was a lose lose for Sony because first they were being sour dicks by picking up their toys and leaving the sandbox, now they are being pansies for giving in after their threats. Now no one will take them seriously, if there were any who actually did in the first place. Good job Kotaku, I knew you could win this one.

subnet6

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> gg Kotaku, gg!

PS. Sony aint shit no mo!

furiku

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Both of you were stupid:

First if they ask to not run a news story then clearly label it as RUMOR.

Second Sony shouldn't try to influence bloggers.

retronaut

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Sony thugz will be waiting at GDC with duct tape, a persian rug (cos they pimp) and baseball bats. Mark my words.

Sunjammer

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> So, lets see if I got this right.

Kotaku gets a rumor about a possible upcoming feature for the PS3. Kotaku takes rumor, does research, puts rumor + other quotes together, then contacts Sony asking if they're right.

Sony says "You tell people that and I will never talk to you again."

Kotaku shrugs and informs everyone of said rumor [old "news" =/= good "news"], while making sure everyone knows what they're reading is, in fact, rumor.

Sony follows through.

Shitstorm ensues.

Sony takes a lot of flak, realized they screwed up and try to patch things up with Kotaku.

Needless to say, there were two things Sony could do:
1) "No Comment."
2) "Sign this waiver and we'll give you more info. Then you can post it after we announce it. You'll be right on top of the news!"

Instead, Sony screwed up. While I try my hardest to not "fanboy", I have to say my disdain for Sony is growing. I'm already waiting for something good on the PS3 before I start thinking about it [I suspect a price drop before anything I actually want releases, anyway, thus making this decision easier], but things like this make me hope more and more that previously stated "good things" end up being on the 360 as well.

One can only hope, at least.

lochoko

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Well, Sony backed up it seems. SONY backed up. Then people *can* make the difference in this world, it's a newsflash I didn't expect.
It's good when big corporations realize that they raised their voice a tad too much, and thanks Kotaku - you've been a herald of the people.
The world is a slightly better place now.

Vidunder

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Oh Sony... What are we going to do with you...?

I still don't feel to great about the whole company. They've essentially lost me as a customer due to their more recent actions.

Megaseven

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Either way, Kotaku shouldn't have posted the rumor is Sony said not to. I don't care the reason, you don't bite the hand that feeds you.

Check out destructoid.com for the exact same news everyday, but with more.

KotakuNub

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Yet another oppurtunity for people to pointlessly bash Sony. In my opinion? People need to grow up and let them do their damn job. Yeesh.

Davideogamer

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> See, it just all falls back together once people admit their mistakes.

Zho

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> LOL! What a storm in a teacup. It's good for Kotaku since I read writers with Gawker Media (of which Kotaku is a part) get paid bonuses if their blogs get more traffic, it's called "getting paid for hits". Is this true or just a rumour? Certainly the Sony "controversy" seems to have generated a lot of hits.

Yes, Kotaku has the right to publish rumours even if they are untrue, like the rumour about 11,000 PS3 units for the Australian market which Kotaku published and then retracted because it was BS. Personally, I don't like reading BS. I like reading true stories about games and gaming.

BTW, it is not the role of journalists to write rumours. It is the role of journalists to write news. I'm pretty sure Mr. Crecente does not publish rumours in the Rocky Mountain News, at least I would hope not.

The fact is Sony needs Kotaku like a fish needs a bicycle. If you look at most posts on Kotaku the Sony bashing comments get the most posts, that translates to more hits and perhaps a nice bonus for Mr. Crecente.

kenshin001

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> "Sony and Kotaku Make-up" implies some sort of Sony- and Kotaku-branded facial decorative paint... while an interesting concept, I fear it is not exactly what you had in mind!

Perhaps you mean that you "made up"?

Regardless, this is yet another nail in Sony's PR coffin. The SCE is a far, far cry from the SCE of 1995 that could do no wrong and wiped the floor with a Sega that failed to deliver on its promises.

In the words of George Santayana, "Those who fail to learn from the past will repeat it."

So Ken/Phil, Sega's asking how does it feel to get arse-raped by a bigger and more popular competitor?

GarethDE

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> @ crecente, ashcraft, mcwherter, whomever, can we get an answer to Cell9song's question? Just a confirmation or denial, I don't tend to believe those Joystiqians, and chances are it was a commenter anyways (bah, who listens to them :P), but you've already used up one ball today, let's get the other started with a rebuttal there :).

aelfin

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Nice one, Kotaku crew.

Also impressive to see that Sony still has some personel with PR awareness. Something that haven't been to evidently lately.

Sony PR crew back from vacation? Welcome back. You have shitloads of work ahead of you.

Billqvist

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Journalism 1 - 0 Corporate Interests

Good job, Crecente. You deserve a medal for this!

akwinters

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> This was a pretty easy argument to side on, actually.

Kotaku was reporting a rumor. They even asked Sony about it, giving Sony a chance to control the story.

Sony said "Don't publish that story, or we'll take our neat stuff away from you, not invite you to press events, and won't give you press releases."

Kotaku said, in a very polite manner, "Uh, censorship bad.", and ran the story.

We got this funny little thing here in the states called the free speech. And while the letter of the law wasn't violated, Sony did violate the spirit of that law. Kotaku was right to post the story (which was not damaging at all to Sony, by the way), they were right to ask Sony about it, and they were right to go ahead and report the story despite Sony's tantrum.

What IS suprising about this is that SONY was right to back down, and take the shot to the balls on this one. Sony was wrong, Kotaku was right, and they were wise to jump back on this thing before it nuked them.

I'm not a big Sony fan. But if YOU are, you must still realize that what Sony did here was pretty crappy. They tried to bully an internet news site in to not reporting the news. They tried to censor a harmless story. That might not seem like a big deal here, today, but it leads down a dark road. At the end of that road is a world where you only recieve the news and information multi-national corporations want you to have, because it makes their brand look good. Already, we are far too close to that place.

It might seem melodramatic, but Kotaku really did strike a blow for journalistic integrity today.

Insomnia Bob

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> This episode finally showed Sony's PR department that they can't control what get's reported. It has also shown them that gamers in general are simply not buying or even cutting any slack for the things thay have been doing lately i.e. Lik San being hounded out of business etc. etc.

This wasn't Dave Karraker being reasonable. It was the collective game press telling Sony that if this action persisted, then sony would get no news from any of them. Don't sell your position short Kotaku. This was litterally sony PR stepping one stair too far and being called royaly on it from all sides!

penhalion

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> And thus we all benefit from having a blog run by and actual JOURNALIST. I think your average gaming blog would have backed down in order to stay on the A list. Crecente had journalistic integrity and went ahead, never you mind the consequences. Sony, in some rare moment of mental clarity realised that back-downed. Not really a bravo for Sony, but more like "You doing what you should have".

bopmachine

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Wow, this debacle may be over, but this is another black eye for SCEA PR. How can they think they can do that to Kotaku, who was only doing their job as journalists?

I am just dumbfounded that Sony would threaten to take away press privileges if Kotaku does their job.

Kudos to Brian for going ahead with the RUMOR and kudos for Sony for *quickly* coming to their senses on this one.

Ken Edwards

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> good to see sony still has some sensibility, but there's a hell of a lot more they should be apologizing for.

And yup kotaku, you guys rock for not giving into their teenage girl threats :)

.TakaM

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> This, to me, is what makes Kotaku one of my most trusted industry information sites.

You guys are the real deal. You don't back down, even when the big wigs of a large company tell you to do so.

That takes integrity, as well as respect for your readers. Hats off to you guys.

Dro

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> And this is why I read Kotaku, and nothing else.

Good job, guys. Many so-called respectable news sites would've backed down for less.

"Not news" indeed, hm? ;]

imaria

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> @crecente: I'll take that back too :)

I guess during the heat of the moment, with all the tension, I just wanted things to resolve quickly. Now, I'm slightly yearning for some more. This kinda stuff just makes for good prime time on the intertubes, and should be more episodic. Real good times!

Giovanni

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Because all of the 360 Zealots and Sony Haters have finally convinced me, I'm going to turn my PS3 into a waffle iron.

Mission Accomplished!!!!!!

All of your hate has finally done some good in the fight against huge corporations. Instead of me putting money into the hands of an "evil, egotistical corporation" like Sony, I'll just put more into the pockets of an "evil, egotistical corporation" like Microsoft.

You win. Thanks for saving me MS evangelists!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Torgo

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Quickest Fight Ever

kamra

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Dear Sony Playstation,

We've been together for so long. You have always meant so much to me. But lately... things just haven't been working out between us.

Yeah, I know you feel it too. You've been kind of demanding, uppity, and stuck-up lately. You're always bitching about how I can't afford you, and how much better you are than everyone else.

You have become the Paris Hilton of video game systems.

Listen, babe. You already know that I'm just a guy who wants to have fun and hang loose.

I hope you get the help you need.

p.s. Tell Britney I said hi!

thespunk

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Wow, i sont read for the day and i come back to this, it took me an hour to follow the whole thing.

One interesting thing though is if you go over to a few other blogs there seems to be a lot of blaming both sides. I give props to Kotaku here, a lot of Sony fans dont seem to realize that you guys have a right to post whatever you want.

TheForgotenHero

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Wow, mad props to Kotaku. And Cheers to Mr. Karraker or whomever at Sony for not being pricks about this.

Nascia

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Kotaku very biased against Sony..

So if you feel presenting yourself as a biased twit against Sony is responsible journalism. Congrads continue to stay on your knees.
As far as Sony black balling kotaku, good for them, not like Kotaku has said anything good about Sony anyway.
But enjoy the free perks.....

_skitzo_

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> It almost sounds like you went running to mommy (readers) crying that big bad bully sony had been unfair. Since it has been "settled" let's just move along.

James

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> I start playing WoW for a week... and this is what happens!

Beorn

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Didn't some other company do the same thing not too long ago, like last year. Someone said something they didn't like, so that company blacklisted them from any info or events regarding them. I can't remember who either company was, but I think it was something over an article on a new product or a review they didn't like. I just remember hearing about a game company blacklisting someone else over something really stupid. Anyone else remember this at all? BTW, I'm not refering to Apple's hissy fit over a website publishing info on a breakout box, then sueing them.

Either way, good to see everything is resolved. Lets hope that Sony can keep their crying to themselves from now on. Last time they got all huffy over something, we lost Lik Sang.

Darkest Daze

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> After all, kotaku got a lot of page hit for those 3 sony posts. Cash in!! $$$

Type-E

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> A good day for gaming, all round.

I don't think people should underestimate how big it was of Sony to change their minds.
Go Kotaku.

Cruithne

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> This is exactly what needed to happen. It should never have gotten to this point, but the fact that they're willing to listen to reason and work on issues is definitely a plus.

Grue

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> POWER TO THE COMMON BLOGGER! CONGRATS FOR SETTING AN EXAMPLE. THE BIG GUYS LIKE IGN AND EGM JUST DON'T HAVE THE BALLS TO DO IT....

VakeroRokero

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> @probe:

I t think it would be justified for Sony to stop supporting Kotaku, but not necessarily a good idea. You can't blindly take either side in this situation. I believe both sides were trying to protect something that weren't necessarily in the interest of the other.

MonkeyBiz

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Ugh. Sony should have kept its decision and thwacked the irresponsible twit.

GhaleonQ

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> I feel that what Sony did was understandable. If the rumor isn't true, Sony would be accused of not delivering the goods, and if it is true, then someone would get, or could get a head start on making a cheap copy of their idea. They are just trying to protect themselves. They do have a lot of money, but not enough to throw away on big risk ideas that could help make or break their newest baby. I think if they want to help sell more units, they should release a 40gb version with WiFi.

Mizunkey

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> At the company i work at, if a PR Exec handled something as clumsily as David handled this, they would be out on their ass. Next time he should try a simple "We don't comment on rumors" and leave it at that. He turned a small rumor about a possible feature into a big story about how mean and stupid Sony can be. First year comm students would have handled it better.

wheezo

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Like Brian mentioned, I think a lot of people missed the point. Maybe it was fanboyism rearing its ugly head, maybe it was just a bunch of people who reached into the wrong bowl, grabbed an artichoke instead of celery but kept on eating because they were too stubborn to admit it was an artichoke.

Never-the-less. All's good now. Let the games continue.

fallingdove

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Very nice, Mr. Crecente. Glad that it all worked out :)

For future reference, make sure you negotiate first whenever they try to bend you over. Don't just drop the bomb right off (ie. publishing the rumor).

IMO, you could have avoided all this fiasco by exercising a better judgement without compromising your "journalism dignity."

Play smart, my friend.

HobbaHobba

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Can't wait til you shake P. Harrison's hand at the GDC event....."So....guess what happened...." No matter what, when Kotaku goes, they'll look like a pregnant teen....Beautiful that there'll be new like, but still is unsightly.

Aguraki

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> I'm glad you were both able to resolve it. I can understand both sides and it was a touchy situation. AT the end of the day, any publicity is good publicity. Even if it wasn't true then it'd make people consider buying the console more so and there's nothing wrong with that.

Not_Matt

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Sony is still a bunch of stupid assholes.
This is game blogging. You can post whatever you want, rumor or official. Freedom of speech and press ftw.

jjmusicman29

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> @The Wreckard:

Again...LOL This is a blog... If their dog dies then it's going to be news...LOL

It's just funny that this is where me and alot of you other guys get their news now because the real news sites suck.

Then the people that where brainwashed by the good ol Sony days come here believing that kotaku is a real news site...LOL

I got new for you SONY isn't a real video game company ethier they are still an electronics company hint hint, thats why they are doing so badly... even they say the system is a digital media device. Some one get these guys a stomach pump cuz the cool aid is official all gone!

Runna

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> All of these posts miss the point- we want Sony to give access to Kotaku becase we want it. What we want. Not what Sony wants. We do not want them to control the way we get information, because we want it to be impartial and hear all the news, good and bad. When Sony tells one of our outlets for information they have to play Sony's game, they are telling all of us that what Sony wants is more important than what we want. You can argue that it is either unethical or just stupid, but at the end of the day, all it is doing is showing how much respect Sony has for its audience. A "no comment" would have satisfied everyone, instead Sony decides to be vindictive because Kotaku would not do what they were "told."

That is a dangerous way to approach capitalism, and in any case, stinks something rotten.

Fnor

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> that was cool, like a little internet spa opera, nice.

kcswanko

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> @probe:

So are you trying to say Kotaku should make a game console because they obviously more importance than SONY? LOL

Really Kotaku was going to be another *insert any online soure thats in sony's pocket* or no name Hoe for them. Sony's Pimp glove just don't have the thunder it once had. It's a blog they really though they had no power in any thing. They obviously must put crack vapors in the thing cuz they swore these guys were hooked. They seemed to have no power and when you think about it they don't but when you start getting people to come to your blog over 5 times a day then all of that ^but they are not a news site^ goes out the door. Sony needs that type of popularity.

Now if kotaku posts any good news about sony then it will make it that much more important and rosier. Alot of people say this place is bias but if that true then they must be bias to things that suck. Yes even sony and nintendo can suck although MS doesn't suck as much any more...

Runna

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Maybe this new PS3 Home "social network" will bring the eBay prices back up to retail again? As for me, I'll continue to buy Sony big screens and MS consoles.

randlsa

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Does this mean no more beta game builds for you Crecente? Would you even care? In any case, it's good to hear that everyone's on "good terms" now.

stealthassassin457

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Wow... mom and dad didn't get divorced! Is dad still sleeping on the couch, tho?

PlayerX

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Nobody will probably read this, being that there are appoximately seven hundred thousand comments.

I feel as if Sony is now the prodigal son. They went astray (to the furthest extent humanly possible). Now, I really don't mind buying a PS3. I don't know how the hell they did it, but I was Wii60 all the way, but my pity/compassion makes me want to give them another chance. I would like to know how much they pay whatever psychologist they hired. Well done Sony, well done.

JoeKaw

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> @MonkeyBiz: I agree with you that neither company has to work with each other and the fact that it was good news for Sony is completely irrelevant.

However, you are arguing that the fact that it somehow slipped it was completely justifiable for Kotaku to post it.

But why isn't it justifiable for Sony to stop supporting a site that is adverse to its interests? What is wrong with that?

Many people are missing one of the important issues here.

This industry needs both sides and it's always good to make sure that neither side gets too powerful.

At one point it was the gaming companies with too much power, however now it seems that the scales have tipped and the media is the one that's getting too powerful without enough professional regulations.

I'm sure I'm gonna get rants about how this is just a blog, why does it need any professional regulations or ethics.

But then, if it's just a blog, then why are people even posting about the Journalistic duty and professionalism exercised by Kotaku?

probe

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> LOL Gawker deserves every penny... I was getting bored with SONY. Saying they suck is so last gen. I mean we all knew that and if we wanted them to rock we would still have to deal with them sucking. Here is too the PS4! Hopefully sony will do an intel and release a Core duo of a console I mean thats what nintendo did and even MS is thinking about copying them...LOL

Sony is clearly in the wrong place right now. They were not really all that welcomed in the industry till every started feeling like nintendo was crazy...LOL That and FF and that one add LOl talking about how many carts it would take to play it...LOL

Really though They need these type of rumors. Another Emotion engine talk is not going to work... people see thur that sh!t now I mean 600 dollar saved buys a lot of PRVizeen.

We may bash you sony but it's only constructive crits on my side. Though Luv ya know... Just get your sh!t together man. Deal with your leaks in house and also get the right info on what is really happenning with in your own damn company!

Every thing Is *i think* or *We are* how about *we did*

Runna

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> @probe: You are right Sony was free to do it, I don't argue that. However, Sony was doing so for the wrong reasons. They threatened initially in a move that I can only percieve as trying to strong-arm Kotaku. Kotaku made no such threats, and I truly believe Kotaku's only motive in this entire episode was that of honest and true journalists, standing up for their rights against big companies.

DeathKat

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Let me respectfully disagree with Kotaku's stand.

How was this web site and its writers the victims? Sony asked them not to report a rumor, and they went ahead and did it anyway "in the name of journalism". Sony said that if they did, they'd remove support. Again, Kotaku gave Sony the finger and did it anyway "in the name of journalism". Sony goes ahead and does what it said it would - removes support- and now it's the villain?

I'm sorry, but there was a degree of trust here that was clearly violated. And posting private e-mail conversations for the world to see (again, "in the name of journalism") that you have no business doing outside of making yourself like look an a** to the gaming community really takes you down some notches. What's even worse is how you made these extravagant headlines for it to seem like you were the victim in order to garner support as well as requesting this story to appear on other sites...

Manipulation at its finest, ladies and gentlemen. If I were a publisher or PR rep I'd certainly steer clear of those I can't trust. Add Kotaku to that list.

Congratulations for posting what you thought you should and showing your readers that you're willing to break the trust of companies like Sony to give us this information, but was breaking that trust really worth it?

Nate128

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> @DeathKat: You're still not really addressing the issue. The issue is that Sony had every right to stop supporting Kotaku. But by exercising what it was free to do, like what Kotaku was free to do, it got the short end of the stick.

probe

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> @probe:

They can't be trusted with information that wasn't official Sony PR news? They stated it was a rumor, and Sony started the shitstorm. All other companies just let it roll off their shoulders and rufuse to comment. Honestly the rumor they were posting was a good thing for Sony. I think Kotaku giving Sony fans some hope of awesome features that are rumored is a good thing.

Sony doesn't HAVE to work together with Kotaku. Yet Kotaku is a very large gaming blog. Companies want to get their news out fast, it would hurt Sony more than Kotaku to not work with them.

I am glad Kotaku decided to run the story. I am sure companies don't like their surprises blown, but maybe they should keep a tighter lip on things they want kept secret. I am also glad David did the right thing and calling up Brian and working things out. In many respects that took more balls than Kotaku posting the story in the first place.

MonkeyBiz

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> I forgot to mention earlier.

Crecente is not just a pirate/guitar hero but also an actor!

He is actually the action who played the guy from the illuminati the The Mummy, Oded Fehr

http://www.strangerinegypt.com/images/footballplayers/Oded...


The Truth Always Comes Out.

nornicle

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> probe, the reason sony supports kotaku is because they need kotaku's word of mouth advertising. by giving them products to review it is basically free to them advertising(minus cost of hardware). so yeah, you are right that sony doesnt have to back kotaku, but kotaku is part of the press and if that means breaking a story an associate doesn't want published, it doesn't matter it has to be done. however, its sony's fault that that story was out there in the first place, so if they feel it necessary to get on kotaku's back about posting it then yeah the entirety of the internets(copyright colbert '06) is gonna jump all over them by free will

DeathKat

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> This turned out like an episode of Blossom.

shrume

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> This sure was resolved nice and quickly - kinda like an episode of Blossom. There was the start of the plot, a couple of commercials, the climax, more commercials, and then a resolution where everyone kisses and makes up. "On next week's episode, tune in to witness Kotaku's first period, and Six realizes that talking too fast annoys all the viewers!"
Good job, Crecente. You're my favorite Guitar Hero/Pirate.

shrume

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> I'm going to ask some of you that are more level headed to look at this logically.

A lot of people here are talking about morally right or wrong.

But, was it any more morally righteous of Kotaku to disregard a request made by an associate, when the associate expresses his dismay that they didn't want that information revealed?

Now, many people are going to think, Kotaku is free to post whatever information they want to.

But then why isn't Sony also justified in doing what it said it will do, and is free to do, in ceasing to support a site that doesn't respect the company enough to comply with a request?

Just like Kotaku wasn't bound to not post information, Sony wasn't bound to support Kotaku.

But, now that Sony stated that they wish to cease supporting Kotaku, something they were free to do anyways, all of a sudden they are the ones blackballing Kotaku?

Does anyone else see the one sidedness of this?

I'm just playing devil's advocate here.

Congratulations to Kotaku for doing what they did right. You've won the support of your readers and shown them that you are willing to post anything that you think you should and you won't let anyone stop you from doing so.

However, you've also shown the industry what you're capable of, and I don't mean that in a good way.

You've basically shown the professionals out there that you can't be trusted with any information. You're also not afraid to sling some mud around, in the form of extravagant headlines and posting private e-mail conversations, in an attempt to prove yourself righteous and victorious.

probe

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Both sides were pretty unlikeable in all of this.

Sony for obvious reasons, but all Kotaku has done is proven there's no such thing as games journalism.

Let's say, theoretically, Bob Woodward was going to run a story damaging to the Bush administration. Let's say the Bush administration gets wind of this and tells Woodward that if he runs the story they're cutting off access.

What do you suppose he would do?

He would run the story, just like Kotaku - and good for them for doing that. But he would never say anything about the threats because a real journalist would never make themselves the story.

Game "journalists", Kotaku included, have an extremely cozy relationship with the industry they're covering. This is just the way it is, and Kotaku, with their dev kits, pressers, and exclusive interviews are certainly not above that, nor does this make them above that. They were simply using the community against Sony to keep them from taking their toys and going home.

The Wreckard

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> @Irixyu: Ganbarimasu! ^_^;;;

Digital_Sky

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Wow, I like the way things turned up, because Kotaku is my favourite gaming site and I truly trust you guys on your comments and news... so at least to me as a Consumer that attitude would affect only my perception on the Sony brand. This coming from a person that owns every PS that came out.

PJ Moreno

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> I'm genuinely surprised that Sony seem to have recovered somewhat from their heavy-handedness earlier... recovery doesn't seem to be their strong point, really :)

I'm sure they're still annoyed about their big secret being leaked though, and rightly so. Wouldn't YOU (yes, that's you, internet denizens) hate it if someone leaked your next big announcement, whatever it was?

csimpson

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> And so, the biggest and one of the most important Kotaku posts goes up and is met with the intertubes.

Good to see you two are on good terms again, and I'm glad that nothing too bad came out of this, on either side.

Reddo

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Regardless of the result, what Sony (at least tried) to do was despicable. We are their audience, and Kotaku is one of a number of ways we get information. They are telling the people who are buying their product that we are not allowed to be informed about their product save by some approved channel. That is a mockery of how business is supposed to work, and an attempt to turn what little journalism we have in the games industry into something even more pathetic. This is not kiss and make nice. Sony retracted their stance not because they realized what they were doing was wrong, but because they creating a rather large backlash of ill-will.

In the end, this is not about Kotaku and Sony. This is about Sony's complete and total disrespect for its customers. If they want us to buy their product, it is our wishes that are important, not theirs. We obviously want to hear rumors, and receive inormation from sources other than Sony itself. That Sony thinks they can strangle-- even partially-- these desires is a strong indicator that they simply do not give a damn about us.

Fnor

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Good that Sony did that and talked it through with you guys.

Lucri

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Good on you Kotaku for sticking up for what you believe and for independent journalism.

I'm glad Sony came to their senses.

doubtful

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Kotaku 1, Sony 0.

Hey Brain, look for me at the GDC this year. I'm that one tall guy that you see at the GDC or E3 wearing bright colored shirts the past years ;)

Kokichi

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Sony, glad you saw reason, any PR on anything that can get Sony publicity is always a good thing. All they had to do was brush it off, just like the US govt does with Area 51, they have turned it into a joke, while they confirm nor deny that there are any aliens there. I just like to use the little known logical statement I heard a while back : "In anything there is a small grain of truth to that subject matter, however small." Sony, I am glad you got back on good standing with Kotaku, just try to get into the game of just saying "No Comment" or just dodge the issue entirely. Overal, good drama for news, hehe.

defiantman21

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Holy cow someone at Sony has a backbone!

Myles

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Well done Crecente. You have made me an even more avid fan of Kotaku after today's debacle.

Good job!

r1nce

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> @Digital_Sky: I think I'm just very tired and misunderstood your post. 18 credits of various difficult Japanese courses and 20ish hours of work a week is enough to make anyone's brain melt. My bad :P

天

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> @crecente: I the story got out into papers, I bet a few of the rabid fans here would find the article and frame it.

Witzbold

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Congrats to Kotaku for taking a stand for the right reasons. So many times these days people stand up for the wrong reasons but what happened today was the right thing to do.

It looks like we (Kotaku's fans) respect you for it, and in the end Sony even respected you for it.

David

avdavidw

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> @notinordr: Define fact.
@Gio: You are? :(

Brian Crecente

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> My Rocky bosses are standing by my decision and question only why I didn't put the story on the newspaper's site.
GAH!

Brian Crecente

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Crecente's got juice.

PersonalSpaceInvader

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> @probe: Your comparison is flawed. This isnt a schoolyard. Sony isn't skulking in a corner, crying and eating orange slices. A company leaned on a media outlet to stifle a rumour that was not in line with their PR plans. The media outlet did not fold, and the consumers were told of the attempt. The consumer backlash threatened the bottom line and the Company conceded with mea culpas all around. This is capitalism, except instead of just using our dollars to select for bigger and better product, we are also dictating what is and is not acceptable behaviour from the companies we shop from. Its like buying free range chicken, or enviromentally sound cars, or DRM free music.

Chiding

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> @Witzbold:

I have to respectfully disagree. Observing the way that Kotaku did things,
1) displaying the email between the two parties,
2) posting the extravagant headline of Sony blackballing them, and
3) then calling for other sites to publish their story and situation sure looks like they were trying to build support for their side and negative publicity for Sony's side.

Now, don't get me wrong. I agree Sony is wrong, but I just agree that they are the only ones wrong and bullying.

probe

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> \o/

MiLeS

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> This is good news...I guess. I liked it when Sony was pissed off! My highest respect and regards to the staff of Kotaku for doing some actual reporting, and not just re-posting press releases...IGN, I'm looking at you...you corporate shills, you!

Chozoman

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> The internet gave a 50 DKP minus to everyone involved.

Lyrai

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> @ShinRasputin

:-D

I actually thought how dumb I sounded after I posted that. I mean, all I had to do was think: In the 90's, the intarweb wasn't such a big deal (and I wasn't so connected to it). Now, the net is freakin' EVERYWHERE, so world+dog can post whatever opinions they please. In retrospect I think what's changed isn't so much the underlying attitudes, but how easy it is for them to get onto the wire. Great point about the advo back then, too (I always thought it sucked).

Also wending back onto topic: you notice the back-backlash has already started. First Sony was a supervillain for trying to stop the spread of info, now they're a crying little b*tch for kissing and making up. Poor guys just can't win (despite the fact that there's some really potentially good news coming from their direction today too).

Have to say though, they can't really lay the blame anywhere but themselves. They didn't adequately lid their own employees about this information. They overreacted hideously when it hit the wire. This most recent action seems less like a good decision than the least of a bad lot.

Digital_Sky

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Sony went into damage control just in time because who ever may have been in the wrong, the way Sony have been lately, they would always be in the wrong.

Massive fan of Kotaku and now Im a bigger fan seeing how this was all delt with.

Bluglo

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> @probe: Actually probe I think all Crecente + Kotaku did was pretty much let the public decide. They gave the information and put it in the hands of the public.

In no way shape or form, did anyone say "HEY LETS SHIT ALL OVER SONY TO MAKE THEM PAY". Its the public that decided to take things to that degree.

Crecente + Kotaku is just responsible for putting up stuff for us to read bout the industry. What happens from there with the information is not their responsibility, unless it was something that was legally binding about not being posted.

Witzbold

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Did he try to wet your hands with some green crecente???

re-online

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> @Techguy1138: And iam sure all you want for christmas is a psp?

Chiding

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> @Doomstalk: I think the shirt slogan might have just have been decided. [:

jErrt

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> In all honesty, both sides were being bullies.

The problem here, is that most people here only see that Sony was the one big bully trying to shut up journalism.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't bullying trying to use one's advantages and resources to suppress the opposing party or weaker party?

In this case Sony tried to exploit their support as an advantage to suppress Kotaku's releasing of information.

However, Kotaku also used their resources, of generating negative publicity and calling in reinforcement from other blog sites, in order to bully Sony.

The difference here is that Kotaku out bullied Sony this time around.

probe

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> "...and the internet imploded." Huh. Is it too late to submit a t-shirt slogan?

Doomstalk

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Huzzah... I think Destructoid's banner on their site pretty much sums up this entire situation.

"Crecente has BALLS.. you saw them, right up in your face. never forget."

In addition, this Zoph character must have forgotten to wash his vagina after the shitstorm hit, because something is obviously irritating him.

CountingConflict

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> I am no Sony fan and am still a little mad for them even letting it come to this, but I am very happy too, happy that Sony has some bit of sanity and decency leave. Now on the real story why is Sony ripping off both Nintendo and MS again?

-WPack911

WPack911

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> *claps* Well done gentlemen.

Wernstar

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Sony PR clearly underestimated the extent of Kotaku's influence and had to do some hasty backpedaling. Weak sauce. It's their job (as PR) to assess the impact doing something like cutting Kotaku off *before* actually doing it. Somebody's head should roll (not saying it's going to happen though).

juv3nal

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> "We posted said e-mail and the Internet imploded." if i could make a tattoo that linked to the internet. that would be what i would get. [:

i'm really glad everything is shaping up for the better, but man this was one for the books. [:

jErrt

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Congrats to Kotaku!!!!


Hey SONY get back to work!!!!!!!!, I want my ps2 games in 720p by the end of March, and where the heck is my adapter so that I can use Guitar Hero controller on the PS3... I need that immediately.

Thomaticus

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> I look forward to reading all the Kotaku-Sony exclusive insights from GDC soon!

Silent_Shark

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> I read Zoph's Comments..... He's an Idiot.

spainland

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> @aestheticity:

And you are somehow better? Thought the whole point you all want was free speech. Annoying or not, you can't have it both ways.

Forgot - it's a blog so there are no rules - hence the hub bub

ekin

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> @Digital_Sky: That's actually an interesting thought...it seems to me, that in the '90s, companies tried to compete with directly with one another in their advertising. Who can forget the "Genesis does, Nintendon't" ads, or the later Saturn/PS1/N64 wars? Most game companies, I feel, don't really do this too often anymore in their advertising, and because of this, maybe there's been a shift in who makes these accusations. It's just a thought, and I'm not sure how much merit you can place into it, but I do think the recent rises in fanboy accusations might have to do with this: they didn't have their favorite companies criticize the competition, so they had to do it themselves.

And to stay slightly on-topic, the banner the guys at Destructoid made is awesome. Way to go Brian, you did the right thing.

Crazebolt

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Wow Gawker media sure got it's $$ worth out of this. They even got Sony to give in.

So Kotaku got to do what ever the hell they wanted, when Sony said well fine, no special treatment for you. They used the a good part of the Gawker chain to do what they want and still get free stuff. In addition to lots of $$ from psge views.

If I known Sony was so damn easy to roll for free stuff I'd of started my own blog.

Techguy1138

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Bottom line:

Kotaku called Sony's bluff.
Sony had no choice but to make-up.

I think they didn't know this situation was going to blow up as big as it did online.

They cant afford anymore bad press.

Vaux

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> But isn't it the job of a good journalist to report on facts rather than rumor and innuendo. Doesn't a good journalist investigate and then offer proof on what they are reporting on? Maybe I am old fashioned in thinking today's tabloid journalism ethics hurt the truth rather than help it. Journalists have become too lazy to actually do any sort of investigation. Either they prefer to get information spoon fed from the PR mouthpiece or they will report on rumor without substantiation. Both are equally easy to obtain, and both don't necessarily service the truth.

notinordr

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Brian, you are one badass pirate.

coolyfooly88

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> In my opinion, both sides have their share of guilt on this and both would probably suffer equally with the end of the partnership.
It's good to read they have reached an agreement.
Just bothers me that almost no one can get pass their Sony hatred and realise that Kotaku is not free of guilt.

napalm

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]>
Dave did the right thing. I understand Sony wants to have a surprise next week. Fine. All they had to say when Kotaku came calling was "We don't comment on rumors, but be sure to be there next week!" That's it.

There was no need for things to go as far as they did. But I'm glad Sony tuned it back around. Smart move.


number9

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Nice to see kotaku and sony make up, especially since there was really no loss on kotaku's part.

ihavenohalo

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> awesome...just awesome.

This is on Sony. I can't believe that there were people in these forums and others that actually defended Sony's ban. How many times have any of us would frequent a site and see an update from the rumor mill? Why would this be any different? Every gaming site I've ever been to has rumor reports. It's not even like it was a MEGATON rumor, like a PSP2 or KillZone 2 being available next week at retail or anything like that.

Again...Congrats Brian. I don't care what anyone says, you or anyone other member of the gaming media shouldn't be penalized for doing their job just as it always been done.

Sony...all I can do is shake my head. What the hell were you thinking?

Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> @Irixyu

...um...

How does that count as disagreeing with what I said? Sounds like we're on exactly the same page. Did I word it too obtusely? I can be bad about that. o_0

Digital_Sky

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> @ShinRasputin

Thanks for the link. Good reading.

It amazes and saddens me how much partisanship exists in the gaming headspace these days. I was born in... um. Pardon. I was born a while ago; let's just say I've pretty much seen it all, from Pong to PS3, and I can remember not too long ago when people really liked systems because they played cool games, not because they were made by this or that or the other company. I won't deny there have always been harsh words exchanged (anybody remember the SNES/GEN wars?), but in recent years it's gotten... epidemic, pandemic, hypertrophic, I don't know. Just ridiculous. I mean, I've purchased a NEO*GEO cart system and a SuperGrafx because I wanted to play cool games. I really hope - almost certainly vainly - that at some point in the future there'll be some level of realization that having fun is what it's all about, affiliations bedamned really.

Digital_Sky

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> @Barbara: I hope he gets banned because he's a troll masquerading as one of those "voice of reason" types. Go look at his posts; most of them are insults.

Doomstalk

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Yeah the last thing Sony needs is intentional negative press. They get enough crap from the unintentional stuff they do.

Hell there were people bitching about the announcement for the great new online features.

Scuba Steve

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> It is sad that we are so impressed by such adult behavior on both sides. I am glad to see it was just a small problem that worked itself out in a few hours.

Hand_O_Death

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> bit of a mess really. heads will roll at sony, and kotaku will labour under this affair for a long time. so you got reinvited to press do's. any pr guy or exec at sony knows your name now, and will question each and every appearance of it on anything they see.

i'd be interested in knowing EXACTLY WHO PEOPLE LIKE ZOPH ARE, what they're doing here and what makes them qualified to pass judgement. because considered wholly, the impartial observer has to say kotaku came out ahead. i don't see anything wrong with their conduct, and this sony backpedalling rather indicates who was in the right, however trivial you might consider the actual facts of the problem to be (fairly, imo).

and yet here's zoph, who i can't seem to recall being a commenter before, and a quick check of the handful of comments he has made shows him to be somewhat one sided in the first place. and then there he is outright threatening kotaku right off the bat, before switching gears to the role of old media representative attacking the entire internet for being what it is.

possibly just a vaguely psychotic sony fan. possibly something worse. and, there are others.

aestheticity

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> @Digital_Sky: "All those who've been trying to villify Kotaku here have been missing that point, and I think it's deliberate."

I have to disagree. If Sony didn't want this information released they should have worked harder to keep it secret. That's quite a generalization, and perhaps it wasn't their fault, but there's other things to consider. Sony didn't want Kotaku to post this info, but Kotaku did anyways. Was that the right thing to do? Perhaps not, but Sony overreacted to the extreme. This is still just a rumor that hasn't been confirmed. Rumors and speculation mean nothing until confirmed so why did Sony overreact? Also, what if some other site did the same thing and posted this rumor? Sony would probably have the same reaction. It's not the site in question or it's integrity, it's Sony itself that made this a huge incident.

The main point I'm making is that this whole incident was a huge mess that was easily avoidable if Sony would have just acted rationally. If Kotaku didn't post the rumor someone else would have because that's how journalism and the internet work. The info would have gotten out and Sony would most likely have overreacted just the same.

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Haru343

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> Go Kotaku! Glad Sony put their ego aside. This and the whole rumble thing with immersion.... are we seeing the dawn of a less arrogant Sony? *hopes*

Demaar

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> This is the kind of journalism we need more of. If journalists gave in to threats, then there would be no watergate scandal.

If only everyone had the sense of duty that Kotaku has. Senators return "favors" by passing bills favorable to the corporations that dispensed these favors. The President returns "favors" by giving those people jobs in his staff.

I think Kotaku just made it clear that whatever "favors" they may receive, they're going to publish an unbiased opinion. If that means Kotaku doesn't get to tell us how they test drove the new PS4 or Xbox 720, I'm content. There's definately a higher degree of journalism on this site then on Fox news.

Verum

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> @Witzbold: thanks guys.... obviously I need a better clock. :)

digitalmonkey

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> @Suidae

But that is Sony's responsibility to keep that information under wraps. That may not be possible in all circumstances, or any for that matter, but no journalist should owe Sony the favor of helping them do their job at the expense of depriving their viewers of information. No matter how professional or unprofessional anyone may see Kotaku as, journalism should be about more than just regurgitating press releases. Otherwise, we might as well just put all journalists directly on to corporate payroll.

I don't blame Sony for being pissed about this, but they shouldn't be blaming Kotaku.

StarStabbedMoon

]]> <![CDATA[Sony and Kotaku Make-Up]]> free publicity. sony used kotaku. :P

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