<![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO - Kotaku Comments]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO - Kotaku Comments]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> I read through everone's list of comments. I want to put firefly back on a tv series and I have a way to do it. The tv show Jericho was canceled recently. Fans sent in bags of peanuts. After receiving millions of them, they restarted Jericho. We can do it to. Send in fireflies. Real ones, plastic ones, who cares. Jar a bunch and send them in with a note asking them to restart firefly. Then tell everyone you know to send them in as well. Eventually someone will have to take notice.

beshkhen

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> I'm a huge Buffy fan of old; watched early parts of Angel to find I didn't like it, then caught the last few seasons to find out I had missed something really special.

Firefly, tho... wow. No, I have to say, I loved it. Not at first - I don't think it puts its best foot forward in the first few episodes, but by the end I was well impressed. Really well written. Highly recommend giving it a chance.

As for the MMO... I'll believe it when I see it. Too easy to get wrong.

gblock

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> I love me some Firefly (and some Buffy, and some Angel... don't you look at me), but I have to throw in with the naysayers here.

Nothing I've seen suggests any involvement from Joss Whedon. The draw with Firefly was the writing and the characters, and with no confirmed support from the creators, you're going to lose that entirely.

Fox is making this deal, not Whedon. And after all the hell that Fox put Whedon and Firefly through, he's vowed not to work with them again. So you may have the Firefly concept, but the soul of the show will be absent.

This just leaves me scratching my head, honestly. Fox won't put it back on the air, and won't sell the rights to anyone else... but they'll rent it out for an MMO? Nothing Fox has done in the past gives any indication that they'd do it justice.

AdamW

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> I am no fan of MMos, but am a huge fan of Firefly/Serenity and would seriously consider a game if ti was good.

SXGlory

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> I'd play.

tk.

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> I'm a huge fan of the Firefly universe but MMOs not so much. Yoshi3gg's right on all points. I don't think this can be pulled off, although if they did....

Well, let's say I'd actually play an MMO then.

[exits, whispering, "Shooters rule"]

Chilly Hollow

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]>
Can you say the appeal of Matrix Online?

Which so isn't good.

Niche market mmo's simply don't work!

but I'm hoping this one will

huginn

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> As much as I would like to see this do well, it's going to fail.

It needs to be super good and super easy for the care bares, and has to wait long enough for WoW to die down.

radink

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> I thought it was silly. Cowboys in space? The space sequences in the film were good, only because there's a terrible dearth of space sequences in films these days. Otherwise, there's a good reason it got cancelled. An MMO of it? Stupid idea.

aestheticity

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> Maybe instead of an MMO if this guy is so sure of the IP he should bankroll it for syndication. It never got past the pilot set.

It was great, yes, but great movies / comics / whatever do not necessarily great games make. This has 'MMO's are hot, lets do one of those' written all over it.

The Commissar

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> Firefly was an outstanding TV series (and decent movie too, even if it didn't make money in cinemas; I'd assume it managed to break even at least after DVD sales).

It'll make a shite MMO though. That is so not the right game genre.

quen

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> why don't we wait till they actually make the game to judge whether we will play it or not....

Cremlian

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> Oh no, more crack. I was off the MMO addiction for a couple years now, and now they have to make one out of my favorite show.

Sign me up as a Browncoat!

starwarsfr3ak

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> Woooooooooo! Firefly is one of the best things ever made, and if they make a non-sucky game, I will cry with joy.

Kuiper

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> Firefly is good IP, and serenity was a good and fun film, i can't see why people don't take to it.

It's a bit crap that it's not going to go forward, at least the hd-dvd sales might help prop it up a bit.

edhe (xbl)

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> Just a few things.
First: Firefly MMO, oh hell yeah :D I can barely stand science fiction, but throw in a gritty western feel and for some reason I'm hooked. Yes the movie wasn't great, but I kinda liked it :D
Second: It was mentioned above something about Star Wars Galaxies not having the draw from the huge fan base it's built off, but SWG had 500,000 subscriptions at release, which prior to WoW was the largest MMO release. SWG is just a crappy MMO, thats why it can't get people.

Mythology

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> Lots of Browncoats here then! As much as I love Firefly I don't think an MMO is a very good idea, as it's the characters that made the show work, not the setting. I think an RPG along the lines of Jade Empire (which coincidentally had Nathan Fillion doing voice work) would be a much better fit as you could have a proper story and hopefully also get all the original cast back for voice work. Maybe Joss Whedon could even write the story?

photoboy

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> Shiny!

TwistedSupreme

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> Perhaps the biggest problem is it plays like a cut-rate live-action Cowboy Bebop. And Cowboy Bebop is much better.

I have one word to say: indeed.

Minister of Fun

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> Oh man, I am so hot for Firefly. But I've never really liked MMO. Still, I'm into anything that will make this show never die. I miss it so :(

stummies1121

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> I fail to see how they could attract the kind of audience you'd need to sustain an MMO, but color me interested.

At least they have realistic views fro the get-go: they do need something special to make it work, a WOW clone in space is not going to cut it.

Joonas

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> Gotta watch "Train Robbery" (I think that was the title). Best f*ing teaser intro, ever...

RiceBandit

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> I don't know if this has been said yet, but knowing (and loving) Firefly, at first the idea had appeal to me whatsoever.

Then I remembered Freelancer.

If they can pull it off in a way that's like Freelancer, it could be a winner.

digitalrift

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> Sign me up!

WoW, feh -- the Firefly 'verse, I'm in.

Evil Tortie's Mom

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> "As a (can't believe I'm going to publically admit this) huge Buffy the Vampire Slayer fan, I was never drawn in to the Firefly universe, but maybe I ought to crack open my DVD set and try to make it past episode 3."

This is fucking blasphemy to a firefly fan.

Jorkus

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> Finally, a chance to put my incomplete Chinese language learning to good use. All the incoherent phrases I created during my study will fit right in the Firefly universe.

Seriously, though, I can't think of a good hook the series could introduce to the MMO universe.

Goldrushdc

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> You know what we need? A Terminator MMO. Terminator is far cooler than Firefly.

As to how it would work...uh...I'll get back to you on that.

Americana

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> Don't bury the thing before it ever sees the light of day (or any solid pre-production)!

Believe it or not, people in the industry actually read these things, along with forums, and it only takes the wrong person in executive pants to see this shit and can a project because they don't know any better.

Here's my challenge:

Instead of bitching about how everything sucks and no one does anything cool, try being constructive and creative. These comment sections should be filled to the fucking brim with crazy dev and gameplay ideas that might actually inspire devs/pubs to make the fucking games you supposedly want! You need to represent the kind of changes and creative thinking that you want to see in the industry in order to make them happen.

Robotticus

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> Meh. Both to the show and the possibility of an MMO. Never saw the movie because I was so un-anythinged by the show. I didn't like it. I didn't hate it. I'd just find myself tuning it out completely, but not being irritated enough by it to change the channel. So I say again: Meh.

Purple Dave

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> Firefly was easily the second best SciFi series ever made, IMHO. It really did fail as a direct result of FOX's piss-poor scheduling more than anything else. It had an excellent plot, fantastic characters, a talented cast, superlative writing and direction (except for that episode where they tried to save the hookers, that was pretty mediocre), just really, really bad timing.

It's too bad it didn't start on SciFi like Battlestar Galactica, I really think it could have been as good as BSG in the long haul. Now it has to settle for second best, sadly.

jasongw

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> "I'm rooting for the Alliance."

So I take it you liked the Emperor in Star Wars?

Americana

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> Man I hated Firefly and I am half in love with Jewel Staite and never missed an episode of Angel (though I found Buffy overwrought).

I don't know if I'm a typical fan of Whedon but I simply cannot get into Firefly and I've watched the Sci-Fi episodes when those were on. It's just not the kind of sci-fi I enjoy and I'm ideologically opposed to the heroes--I'm rooting for the Alliance.

So maybe if you got a chance to play as them... eh it's not worth it.

SSJPabs

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> If your going to be flying around is space in a third person prespective, then there will be no sound. How fun is that?

hehahohee

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> Here's my problem with this: Unless this MMO can give me Joss Whedon dialog, I fear it won't really deliver the experience. Half of the charm of {any} Whedon show is the witty banter... I can't imagine how that could ever translate to an MMO

Akbar The Great

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> Serenity (and obviously Firefly) has made a lot of money through DVD sales, so the 38.8 million might be a bit misleading.

I want to be hopeful about this MMO... but it will probably suck.

SkywardShadow

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> Firefly is a great show (and Serenity is a good movie), and we owe much to it and Battlestar for bringing us into this sci-fi renaissance we're in.

Still, I can't help but feel the law of diminishing returns here. If someone wants more Firefly content, they're gonna have to do one of two things: make more money off of each item sold or spend less. I don't see an MMO being the greatest idea, but at least then that hardcore fanbase can pour money into the IP on a regular basis.

It WOULD make an excellent Freelancer/Privateer type game though. A mix of on-foot gunslinging, free roaming adventure and so on? Yes!

enderspawn

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> I was one of the few (sad) fans of both Buffy and Firefly/Serenity. I thought they were both incredibly well done shows. I just don't see how they could capture the firefly universe in an MMPORG - it was the writing, acting, and eclectic characters that made the show great. That is all going to be stripped out of any sort of massive online play. Seems kind of dull you can be a an outcast human, reaver, or alliance.

dmaggio12

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> As much as I love Firefly, this won't work. At best, this will play like a quirky Eve clone, and at worst? I don't want to think about it.

The original series was one of the best things to ever grace a television, but as it has been said, it was all in the characters. The cast and Joss Whedon's uncharacteristically good writing (I'm not a Buffy fan, and I can't stand Angel) made that show great.

hinges

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> I love the show. I own the only season (/cry) and the movie of course. I would rather see the show come back to television than see it turned into a MMO. Unless they do a really good job with it, but let's be realistic. It will probably be a hunk of crap.

Briz9

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> OMFG!

OMFG!


... OMFG!


*fangasm*

Avaunt

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> "As a (can't believe I'm going to publically admit this) huge Buffy the Vampire Slayer fan, I was never drawn in to the Firefly universe, but maybe I ought to crack open my DVD set and try to make it past episode 3."

For me it's the reverse. Fans didn't cross over much, which is one of the reasons Fox were unimpressed with the ratings (compared to the aforementioned Buffy).

Do yourself a favor and skip to episode 5 "Out of Gas". It's a fantastic episode that really solidifies the series IMO. It also has a great commentary track.

Qube

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> C'mon. This is sheer nonsense. I liked Firefly, I liked Serenity, but as Josh said, it is dead.

Throw some dirt on--and if you want to do a Western In Space, take a hard look at the single player game numbers for Outlaw, Red Dead (which even after a firesale by Capcom--didn't recoup for either they or Take-Two,) or the incredible attempt by a very talented developer by the name of NeverSoft? The ROI was past soft and into crawling back into their hips like a fat-ass Sumo Wrestler.
Reality hurts.
Damned idiotic idea.
At least give the money to Libraries instead of flushing it down the shitter.

ThatSauceGuy

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> I agree with Yoshi3gg, with a tad less cynicism.

And I think the fact that Browncoats managed to get Serenity made through their mad devotion based on 11 eps and a DVD set makes them more... tenacious than Star Wars fans... who are taken for granted (how long did it take for unedited original trilogy just to have it be the Laserdisc transfer?).

And I don't care how grammatically ugly that last sentence was.

Dyuta

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> Considering how crazy firefly fans are I would say the game would have a reasonable install base right off the bat. Even if it was the worst game ever they would buy it.

Personally I love Serenity and think firefly is an extremly good tv series. However I wouldn't play an mmo of it. The characters are what make the series good, maybe a single player game would be better.

Zim

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> Well, fuck. I guess there goes my weekends.

Kallisti_8

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> I love Firefly and Serenity, even started an LA Browncoats chapter, and I'm looking forward to watching this. The problem is it needs a dedicated team and some real big money thrown at it to make it the good MMO it could be. Will it get that? Of course not. Universal made the decision to make Serenity a total viral marketing campaign and see how that turned out? You need money put behind these projects.

Joss is so talented. It's too bad he's had to deal with crap from Hollywood while movies like White Chicks and the Scary Movie series are made.

trina

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> I love Firefly but what made it great was the characters and the writing. The show never got far enough along to really flesh out its universe even though the potential was certainly there. I would have absolutely no interest in an MMO.

Make another movie or get the show back on the air but don't waste money on a certain flop of a game.

skullivan

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> FTW!

anglon

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> I just want to throw my hat in with all the people who love Firefly, but don't think this will work. It can be pulled off, but they probably won't, and it will fall into the same problems as every other MMORPG out there.

And it certainly won't capture the charm of the show. That was all in Joss Wheden's writing, and I don't see the possibility for writing zippy dialogue for an MMORPG. The verse was interesting, but I don't think it would make for a very good game. Possibly, if they put it during the war, but then it will probably be another World of Warcraft, but just with one race. Reavers I don't see working, the canon makes them insanely scary, and powerful. I don't like the idea of having them kill my avatar, and then raping the coarpse and sowing its skin to its armor. Plus, there isn't very much variation for the character jobs, since, well, could you see being a pilot or a mechanic full time being fun? So then, you've got what, cowboys and theives? Maybe a bounty hunter?

iwanttobeasleep

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> Huge Buffy fan. I haven't even watched all of Firefly yet (borrowed DVDs).

Firefly sure starts slow, it pretty much sucks for about 5 eps. Then the characters start to hold some attraction. But despite the decent characters, the show still isn't working for me.

Perhaps the biggest problem is it plays like a cut-rate live-action Cowboy Bebop. And Cowboy Bebop is much better.

br549

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> never seen firefly, but serentity was one of the most enjoyable sci-fi movies ive seen since the original matrix.. maybe i should check out the series

TakeTheVeil

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> As much as I love Serenity/Firefly, I'm not a big MMO fan. I'd like to see it being successful, but I wont be there. I'll still be watching the DVDs though - Kaylee is so cute.

doormat

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> No, no, no... Put that money into a comic series or something instead! Me, I'm kinda allergic to MMOs, preferring to spend the money I'd spend on their subscription fees on actual new games and other stuff.

As for Firefly itself, sci-fi fans can do much, much worse than invest in the relatively cheap DVD set and movie. It's a gorram shame that it wasn't more popular, because just about everyone I've shown it to have fallen in love with it.

MrPerson

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> I absolutely love Firefly, and I think that there's definitely a way that the Firefly verse could be a great setting for an MMO.

But to do this would require some seriously inspired game design. I have yet to play an MMO that I genuinely enjoyed, and it seems that most MMO's have at least one of these critical problems:

-There's almost always a huge emphasis on doing repetitive tasks to progress. In a Firefly MMO, I don't want to find myself farming ceramic-making mud in Canton for 10 hours in order to craft a new ship part, and I especially don't want to purposefully fly out into Reaver territory just because it's good EXP.

-Players have very little effect on the gameworld, have little say in the creation of rules/laws, and pretty much no way of creatively expressing yourself. (There are exceptions, like a Tale in the Desert, but ATitD suffers MASSIVELY from repetitive gameplay) If I want to build a space station or found a settlement on a sparsely-populated planet, and I have the funds to do so, I should be able to.

-Sort of a continuation of my second point, if an MMO even HAS a plot arc, it tends to be controlled almost entirely by the devs. Furthermore, quests are given to you by NPCs. In a Firefly MMO, I'd want crime bosses (actually controlled by fellow players) assigning me smuggling missions, and I want the Alliance (also controlled by REAL PLAYERS) to have genuine reasons to want to try to stop me from smuggling.

-Community contains a huge number of elitist jerks and griefers. Actually, this might fit in pretty well with the Firefly universe... not being able to know who you can trust in terms of business deals/missions assigned, and people who just want to annoy the hell out of other players can make accounts where they're Reavers.

Anyway, enough ranting from me. That's a ton of requirements for a Firefly MMO to be decent. Does it sound ridiculously ambitious and impossible to pull off?

Yes? Well, that's because it IS impossible to pull off (without some groundbreaking game design, at least). And that's why a Firefly MMO will inevitably suck.

Yoshi3gg

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> I too watched the series after friends recommended it, and I WAS blown out of the water. This series had it all for me. Then Fox raped it and chucked it in the ditch.

Not sure how this one will play out as a game, but the idea was enough to get me and my girlfriend terribly excited.

TitillatedOcelot

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> I can't decide if this is a good thing or not. One thing is for sure, I absolutely love the show. I would much rather see some more TV/Movies made with that money, to be honest.

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MIKEAWESOME

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> I watched the Firefly series on recommendation from a friend. It wasnt as painful as expected, but it didnt blow me out of the water. A opinion I think will be repeated with this MMO attempt.

Whitster

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> Wow. Some quick, enthusiastic support for this (potential) game. I hope they can get their act together and quickly, as this MMO seems like a long time off.

Michael McWhertor

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> I don't know what to think of this. I mean I love the franchise, if you can call it that, but I have a feeling this will be pretty shitty.

ExarKun

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> Really? I'd say maybe 1 in 10 movie adaptions are successful. Maybe I should start picking up those lotto tickets.

When I said that games based on established properties are mostly duds, I meant gameplay wise. I'm sure there's many successful crappy games out there (e.g. Spongebob for the kids, and the like), but how many of those games can you say are actually worth playing? That Vin Diesel (Riker something?) game is the only one that comes to mind, at least for me.

ShoppingCartHero

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> dammit, hit the submit button too early, was thinking it was the login button.

anyways, provided Bioware's MMO doesn't beat it to market, this will be the first MMO I'll sign up for and play. been wanting a good, gritty SF MMO to come out for sometime (besides Eve, I mean, spending hours mining asteroids isn't my idea of fun).

kromekoran

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> I loved Firefly and Serenity... but I really can't say I see it mapping well to a MMO type thing very well.

Quattuor

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> provided

kromekoran

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> Sure, there's some exceptions, but the chances of that occurring are less than winning the lottery.

Really? I'd say maybe 1 in 10 movie adaptions are successful. Maybe I should start picking up those lotto tickets.

Avery

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> my friend absolutley loved the show, but ironically enough (or not, I don't really know...) he can't stand the thought of playing online with other people. Still sounds cool though, as long as it's done right.

diablodevil2

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> Woot, no problem guys. I'm psyched. If they pull it off well, then goodbye WoW!

-nesdude

nesdude

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> They shouldn't even waste the money developing this MMORPG. First off, going by history, games based on movies/television are sure fire duds Sure, there's some exceptions, but the chances of that occurring are less than winning the lottery.

Second, if an established, and huge, fanbase like the Star Wars one is unable to attract many players to their game, what would make anyone think that Firefly will have any kind of pull?

If they really want to waste their money, they should just hand it over to me. Or, at least, give it to some charity.

ShoppingCartHero

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> I always thought Firefly was realy entertaining ,gritty Sci-Fi.

Fuzz

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> Well let's hope it's actually sci-fi this time and not fantasy in futuristic drag like most of the "sci-fi" MMOs out there.

Americana

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> FUCK YEAH!

sharkilepsy

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> That's a lot of people pointing guns.

CoralCola

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> Definately watch the rest of the season, it was really great and ended too soon. The Firefly universe would actually make for an interesting and unique setting for an MMO, too bad it'll probably end up like the Matrix MMO.

cleasure138

]]> <![CDATA[Firefly Continues On As MMO]]> Awesome, this is a "verse" that definitely deserves further exploration. I will gladly put on my browncoat one more time.

Konman72

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