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Rumor: Xbox Japan Unveils the 60 GB HDD... Accidently

grumbler — Tue, 31 Oct 2006 19:27:17 MST

Geez Ashcraft, get a grip. Desperate for a scoop?

1. There is no way a 60GB hard disk on a 360 could have 59.5GB free - the dashboard software and so on takes up a few GB. So it actually must be a larger disk, 80GB or something.

2. As others have said, demo kits look just like retail machines but have development software and a bigger hard disk. Its obviously a demo kit with a larger development hard disk on it that the marketing drones just rolled out for the demo.

grumbler

Rumor: Xbox Japan Unveils the 60 GB HDD... Accidently

Altima NEO — Tue, 31 Oct 2006 11:38:57 MST

Im betting its a dev kit like everyone else. Its well known they have a bigger

HDD.http://home.btconnect.com/hgi/xbox2/sdkL.jpg

Altima NEO

Rumor: Xbox Japan Unveils the 60 GB HDD... Accidently

Rob Phelps — Tue, 31 Oct 2006 10:52:17 MST

There are two possibilities here...it's either a Development Kit or a Demo Kit. Demo kits look exactly like a retail 360, but operate like a devkit, including the bigger hard drive. Devkits are the big gray 360s with a 'sidecar' on top that has a USB port for some sort of drive emulation, among other things. I also think it is possible to use the bigger hard drive on a retail kit if swapped.

Rob Phelps

Rumor: Xbox Japan Unveils the 60 GB HDD... Accidently

Barbara — Tue, 31 Oct 2006 10:46:00 MST

Yes, It's a devkit. But that's cool let's play jumping to conclusions!

Barbara

Rumor: Xbox Japan Unveils the 60 GB HDD... Accidently

splaa — Tue, 31 Oct 2006 10:24:07 MST

As everybody else has said, it's for sure a test kit or debug kit. They have 60 gig capacities (and say "60.0 gigs available" when empty).

splaa

Rumor: Xbox Japan Unveils the 60 GB HDD... Accidently

Matt B — Tue, 31 Oct 2006 10:08:57 MST

yup, it's a debug kit with an 80gb HDD.

Matt B

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digiwombat — Tue, 31 Oct 2006 09:55:13 MST

Oh yeah and that pesky ability ot actually use the next gen optical for games. That.

digiwombat

Rumor: Xbox Japan Unveils the 60 GB HDD... Accidently

EnigmaNemesis — Tue, 31 Oct 2006 09:38:52 MST

Yep, even the pricetag wont seperate it.

EnigmaNemesis

Rumor: Xbox Japan Unveils the 60 GB HDD... Accidently

Trowble (XBL/PSN) — Tue, 31 Oct 2006 09:30:26 MST

Probably is a dev kit, but Microsoft should release a 100gb HDD and lower the 20gb. I'm sure people will buy it. I would.

Trowble (XBL/PSN)

Rumor: Xbox Japan Unveils the 60 GB HDD... Accidently

SuicideNinja — Tue, 31 Oct 2006 09:10:03 MST

"you do realise that a 60 gigabyte hard drive does not actually contain 60 gigabytes of space. Theres no way that this can be a 60gig with 59.5g free."

Um, some HDD manufacturers actually make the drives hold a bit more space so the actual size is closer to the advertised size. Rare nowadays however.

SuicideNinja

Rumor: Xbox Japan Unveils the 60 GB HDD... Accidently

HobbaHobba — Tue, 31 Oct 2006 09:08:17 MST

Not everyone needs 60GB but it won't hurt. Especially if you like buying XBL games (like Lumines). Those games are getting bigger and bigger in size everytime.

HobbaHobba

Rumor: Xbox Japan Unveils the 60 GB HDD... Accidently

hENNIFER — Tue, 31 Oct 2006 08:43:11 MST

Fuzz: That's exactly what I asked :) WE NEED TO FIND OUT!!

KOTAKUITES!! TO THE TORX DRIVERS!

Okay, okay, I promise I'll rip apart my old HDD when the new one comes up for sale :) You think the boys @ xbox-scene.org would have at least tried the SATA swap / Keystroke Format.. even a dashboard system format should make it work.. I know they're Seagates, you can see the top of the damn thing :)

hENNIFER

Rumor: Xbox Japan Unveils the 60 GB HDD... Accidently

Jabbertrack — Tue, 31 Oct 2006 08:35:15 MST

what are you guys filling your drives up with?

let me guess... shitty music you think is awesome? don't lie... I hear it on Live every night

Jabbertrack

Rumor: Xbox Japan Unveils the 60 GB HDD... Accidently

logikil — Tue, 31 Oct 2006 08:04:31 MST

Platinum....while hardware wise it's 4 more processors, it only comes down to 1 additional thread. Each of the 360 cores is capable of running two threads, giving you 6 threads to the 7 from the PS3.

logikil

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Fuzz — Tue, 31 Oct 2006 07:57:42 MST

These are just normal notebook SATA HDD's. Can't you just open up the HDD caddy, swap in a bigger drive and be good to go? Some one must have tried that by now.

Fuzz

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kiigan — Tue, 31 Oct 2006 07:52:58 MST

Yup, it's a dev kit.

I could really do with a bigger hard drive for my retail 360 though.

kiigan

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platinum — Tue, 31 Oct 2006 07:47:42 MST

you might want to add another 4 processor cores on the PS3 side and additional 256mb of ram on 360s side to that list of distinctions.

personally i don't understand the problem of releasing a 100gig drive for the 360.
i can buy external 2.5inch drives with that capacity for pc at under 100 euros. and afterall the xbox is just a pc with locked down specs …

platinum

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logikil — Tue, 31 Oct 2006 07:43:38 MST

Good point CheapyD. Thanks for the answer. Still hoping for the larger drive though.

logikil

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Devin — Tue, 31 Oct 2006 07:42:56 MST

Xbox 360 Dev and Debug kits both have 60GB fixed hard drives that cannot be removed.

Devin

Rumor: Xbox Japan Unveils the 60 GB HDD... Accidently

CheapyD — Tue, 31 Oct 2006 07:38:49 MST

It's a dev kit...When we attending the Blue Dragon press conference at TGS, I noticed the 360 had a big HD too.

And to answer logikils question, "Why would you have a hard drive sitting on a table of completely new peripherals? The hard drive has been around since launch."

Because the Core system has not launched yet in Japan, so they have not sold the HD seperately yet. They will do so in November.

CheapyD

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Ikari — Tue, 31 Oct 2006 07:36:19 MST

logikil: Japan didn't have harddrives at launch, since the premium was the only option. That's the 20GB harddrive, coming out next month, alongside their first release of a core system.

Ikari

Rumor: Xbox Japan Unveils the 60 GB HDD... Accidently

park — Tue, 31 Oct 2006 07:28:40 MST

An ordinary 60 gigabyte hard drive would be able to save about 57.22 gibibytes since most hard drive manufactures measure them in kilobytes (1000 bytes) and not in kibibytes (1024 bytes).

park

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logikil — Tue, 31 Oct 2006 07:21:53 MST

I posted this like two or three times on 1up and no one seemed to really care. On the Gamewatch page (the Japanese site that most people were linking to yesterday) there were some screen shots of the upcoming dashboard update. That wasn't what i found noteworthy. One of the screen shots was a table full of all the new accessories for the 360.

On that table they had the wireless wheel, vision camera, wireless headset, hd-dvd....and a hard drive package?

Why would you have a hard drive sitting on a table of completely new peripherals? The hard drive has been around since launch. Tell me that MS is not considering and even close to releasing a new drive.

http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/av/docs/20061030/ms.htm

logikil

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angelfly — Tue, 31 Oct 2006 07:15:24 MST

If this is true then I'll buy it th day it's released here in the states

angelfly

Rumor: Xbox Japan Unveils the 60 GB HDD... Accidently

hENNIFER — Tue, 31 Oct 2006 07:09:28 MST

It certainly wouldn't hurt if people are ripping AUDIO CDs to the HDD (WMC is a wonderful thing, but not everybody in the world has a PC).. I mean, a few really good albums out of your collection and you start burning on space..

Not really an issue if you have the PC or the pocket player (zune anyone?), but they wouldn't have released a CORE PACK if they weren't about talking to the lowest uncommon denominator.

Realistically, I'd like to see the 200GB option, even a 100GB for the virtue of "never having to worry about it", hopefully with the fall update (haven't checked it, stupid work) deleting things will be less of an arduous process (clicking 4 times to erase a gamerpic, for example).. but having all that space lulls the operator into being lax about keeping the garbage off his drive.. which is something I've been constantly on (why must EA package so many stupid EA gamerpics with each package? Christ. Like I need to see a freakin' EA logo between every other gamerpic.)

Anyways, yeah, it can't hurt to have more space, but I'm fearing the price to GB ratio, because at 20GB for 129.99, extrapolating that price even x3 is 389.97, and that's to a 80GB model. [obviously, they wouldn't use this pricing strategy, but for commenting sakes] .. Something will have to give, and the people who shelled out 130 for the 20GB only to have the 60 or 100GB go for 200 bucks would not be please (People tend to get a serious hate on MS when stuff goes bad)

and who knows.. I still haven't seen the results of replacing the stock HDD with a laptop SATA drive (and then doing the format keystroke trick)..

Can anyone comment on that? And if XBL would BAN HDD "hackers" like they're banning "backup operators" ;-)

phew, longest, drawn out comment yet. Good job, looking over my shoulder at work ;) sorry if a few lines don't make complete sense.

- hENNY

hENNIFER

Rumor: Xbox Japan Unveils the 60 GB HDD... Accidently

AgentMunroe — Tue, 31 Oct 2006 07:08:15 MST

A quick google search shows that 360 dev kits do, in fact, have 60GB hard drives - this would also make sense considering that a huge chunk of a retail 360 HD is reserved for backwards compatibility, and that drive actually shows close to 60GB available.

Sorry to burst your bubble...

AgentMunroe

Rumor: Xbox Japan Unveils the 60 GB HDD... Accidently

tpudd — Tue, 31 Oct 2006 07:05:28 MST

you have to remember that MS doesn't want you to download music and movies to your 360, they want you to stream them from your pc, and since everyone pretty much has a pc, and this last update finally adds wmv support you have everything you need to make your 360 a "video jukebox"

tpudd

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morfar — Tue, 31 Oct 2006 07:04:17 MST

Its a dev kit.

Dev kits have a 60gb hdd...

morfar

Rumor: Xbox Japan Unveils the 60 GB HDD... Accidently

CoMus — Tue, 31 Oct 2006 07:03:42 MST

why do they have such small HDD? where is the 300 gig drives at min!

CoMus

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Lider — Tue, 31 Oct 2006 06:58:24 MST

It would be really great having a 60 or 80gb on the 360. 20gb doesn't hold for too long and later we'll probably seed the live arcade games having more than 50MB, with SOTN probably being the first one of them.

Lider

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mfelps — Tue, 31 Oct 2006 06:51:59 MST

Some of us hope MS will get off the stick and finally tie the XBL Marketplace to their combined effort with MTV, Urge. The 360 would make an excellent video jukebox, but only if it has the storage space. I expect bigger hard drives in the future, because before this generation is over, we'll be downloading bigger games, TV shows, music videos, and movies onto our 360's.

mfelps

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junkinthetrunk — Tue, 31 Oct 2006 06:50:42 MST

xbox 360 debugs and deve kits have 60 gig HDDs - chances are that is what they were using to show the updates before they were released.

junkinthetrunk

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dMek — Tue, 31 Oct 2006 06:48:56 MST

It does matter actually. My 20GB Xbox360 HD has about 5 Gigs left, simply from multiple game patches, a couple movie trailers, some marketplace add-ons, and 3-4 game demos. I've had the console for about six months, so down the line in a few years the 20GB will be a joke. What's even more of a joke is the fact that the 20GB HD drive is $99, when a 320GB drive can be found online for just a few dollars more. What will the $60 GB cost?

dMek

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Daxed — Tue, 31 Oct 2006 06:44:53 MST

Speaking of the update - this remote wmv viewing rocks. I've always considered buying a 'media computer' to hook up to the bigscreen and stream junk off my main computer, but my pocketbook's only so big. Finally, today I can do that.

I've got some nice DOA match vids I downloaded going to the 360 from my comp - very sweet. Now I just need to figure out how convert from xvid to wmv and I'm set for life.

Oh, and to be slighty on topic, the bigger HD is cool too if it's real.

Daxed

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richie579 — Tue, 31 Oct 2006 06:44:25 MST

Probably a dev kit, I remember when 360 came out, I read the dev kits came with 80GB HDDs, with cache partitions and blah blah blah, that size would probably make sense...I wish I could just throw my own drive in there, wasn't it rumored that sony would let you do just that?

richie579

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KineticOnline — Tue, 31 Oct 2006 06:41:32 MST

Its a dev kit.

KineticOnline

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ei — Tue, 31 Oct 2006 06:38:20 MST

Uh oh... looks like somebody made a mess.

Seriously, does this matter? Do we really need 60GB on a console?

Rumor: Xbox Japan Unveils the 60 GB HDD... Accidently

Bard to the Bone — Tue, 31 Oct 2006 06:38:07 MST

you do realise that a 60 gigabyte hard drive does not actually contain 60 gigabytes of space. Theres no way that this can be a 60gig with 59.5g free.

Bard to the Bone

Rumor: Xbox Japan Unveils the 60 GB HDD... Accidently

methane47 — Tue, 31 Oct 2006 06:36:47 MST

Wow... And MS isn't the king of copying how?

methane47

Rumor: Xbox Japan Unveils the 60 GB HDD... Accidently

tozza — Tue, 31 Oct 2006 06:36:30 MST

If there were going to go for a larger HDD, why go for 60 GB and look like they're just matching the PS3? Jump in with 80 or 100 if you're gonna do it.

tozza

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KaneRobot — Tue, 31 Oct 2006 06:35:56 MST

Would be interested to see who would actually want a bigger hard drive. Yeah, the 20 GB limit drive doesn't let me keep every single demo and trailer, but I have no interest in doing that anyway.

KaneRobot

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no0ne — Tue, 31 Oct 2006 06:32:30 MST

cant see it being real....

The problem is the system they are probably using is a dev kit, which do have bigger hd's.

We know its not a retail xbox because they use a private network to test updates , and any developer code in advance, on the dev network.

We can all dream though *sigh*

no0ne