I played this at IndieCade over the weekend. The game is pretty unique, and the developers were obviously very passionate about their work. It's great that they'll have the opportunity for more success at retail stores.
@Bannana Stand CEO: The graphics were pretty nifty, actually. But yeah, it's not a game known for it's strong story. It's certainly interesting, but it's really all about the punchy-punchy.
@Paradox me: I want to know when this paid beta test became a popular thing to do.
With the way technology is now, there's no reason for rereleases for game mechanix. Sure, add all the content you want and let people pay for that, but when your FIXING the problems with the GAME, I want that in the version I paid for.
If this is getting a PC update for that, I'm sorry to whom which it concerns, otherwise, I hate new trends in gaming that are following outdated principals.
Exclusive content for an inferior console port? I can't shake the feeling that developers have officially sold out.
Also, how would this even work? Does Valve also get a cut of the money, seeing as it's based on their engine? If so, disregard my first comment, Valve getting money is always good.
@ThreeOneFive: Why's the console port inferior? It's a Source game, they shouldn't have to scale back the graphics or anything like that to get it to run on 360.
I ask because there's something inside of me that wants to believe you have some reasoning other then, "CUZ GAMEPADS ARE TEH SUX!!1"
@Hindesite: Have you seen Left 4 Dead (and to a lesser extent Half-Life 2) on the consoles? Fucking hideous. Not to mention the fact that there are no mods on the 360 due to Microsoft's baby policies.
And about the controller thing, not really. While obviously it'll be more precise on PC, it probably won't be so bad with the controller.
So basically: Worse graphics, less precise (and therefore inferior) controls, no mod support.
Wow, I would get rid of the promotion you got on this post if I could. Your post is nothing but ridiculous fanboyism and you're obviously a graphics whore. Who gives a fuck about what version has better graphics? It's people like you that have driven the game industry to the point it's at now. It cost more money than ever to create a game and less 3rd party developers are making original, unique games and aren't taking as many risks with new franchises because they are afraid they won't break even because your picky ass won't accept games with graphics that don't meet your expectations.
So, please pat yourself on the back for nearly killing off the videogame industry. The Wii saved your ass from a video game market crash.
@randomrawr: This comment is rather funny when one looks at your previous comment on this article.
Somebody made the claim that source games don't need to be downscaled for the xbox360. ThreeOneFive made a point that this ain't true and now he's a PC fanboy for pointing out an fact?
And tbh since the current generation of HD consoles with 720p/1080p consoles players have been promoting "oh it's not HD, no need, looks like a PS2/Wii game blah blah" while indie developers grow on the PC market with fresh ideas compared to graphic whoring.
The Wii didn't save anyones ass, it only made gaming more mainstream and while doing that managed to dump down gaming even more. If the Wii did something it's been degrading gaming because games get simpler and simpler so you average mom can play them. I wouldn't call that taking gaming into a "new direction" i would rather call it milking the cow to the extreme because something like this has been around way before the Wii.
@Nethlem: Yes, the wii did a lot for gaming, while the new markets it brought may seem like they are dumbing down, the thing you forget is that those markets will hopefully become more and more educated and sophisticated as gamers in the long run.
The games I grew up on in the 80's weren't any less dumb than the games for the wii targeted at these 'casual markets'.
These markets also support the industry as a whole, which is good for the games industry economy and allow more revenue to develop new IP(doesn't gaurantee it will happen though sadly).
The wii and it's interface didn't have to dumb down gaming, unfortunately any broad society is going to have the majority of people in the category of mediocre, because they represent that demographic.
I could as easily say the hardcore are killing the games because they are the nit pickers that represent the smallest niche and are the hardest to please.
They have their own interests they might be more focused on other than gaming. I'm certain there's other medium, that you enjoy, but not be as hardcore about as others. Those others would probably find your interest in them 'dumbing them down" as they would see you as the unwashed masses. Don't get me wrong there's plenty of mediums out there that could be better, and sometimes i regret my rather tourist like knowledge and appreciation of them, but for the time being there are still plenty of core games with more depth available and coming.
all games on the pc should release a modkit, its one of the ways to show that we are still superior platform. Also, you're bound to find an occasional gem amongst the stacks of reskin mods if you get my wift.
@TearsandScreams: You gotta keep in mind that games released through Steam don't need to cost as much as games sold at GameStop do because they're not packaged and shipped.
So, no one's paying any money for distribution, which allows for sales to a more suitable price. If you're paying full price for a game on Steam (that isn't old or hasn't already been marked down like hell) than you're doing it wrong.
(Disclaimer: it's 7 AM and I have yet to go to sleep. I'm sure there are typos and logical fallacies in this post, so, apologies abound.)
So let me get this straight, this weekend it will be $10? And only a week after I bought it for $20? If I hadn't enjoyed it, I'd be pretty angry right now, instead I'm just a bit annoyed.
@Pezdispenser: I was almost in your shoes. When I heard about them going to and commenting on torrent sites, I decided that regardless of how I liked the demo, I was going to buy it to support the developers.
But still, for a broke ass college student, ten bucks is a lot cheaper than twenty, especially for principles.
I am afraid to adapt to change and use my computer to actually play games again, but Left 4 Dead on 360 just isn't cutting it anymore. Time to see what this bucket of crap can do other than Sims 3. Sigh.
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Ugh. "Backstab" is forever linked to TF2 in my mind now.
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Unless there are plans to update the PC version, this is kinda lame.
09/30/09
With the way technology is now, there's no reason for rereleases for game mechanix. Sure, add all the content you want and let people pay for that, but when your FIXING the problems with the GAME, I want that in the version I paid for.
If this is getting a PC update for that, I'm sorry to whom which it concerns, otherwise, I hate new trends in gaming that are following outdated principals.
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Also, how would this even work? Does Valve also get a cut of the money, seeing as it's based on their engine? If so, disregard my first comment, Valve getting money is always good.
09/30/09
I ask because there's something inside of me that wants to believe you have some reasoning other then, "CUZ GAMEPADS ARE TEH SUX!!1"
09/30/09
And about the controller thing, not really. While obviously it'll be more precise on PC, it probably won't be so bad with the controller.
So basically: Worse graphics, less precise (and therefore inferior) controls, no mod support.
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09/30/09
Wow, I would get rid of the promotion you got on this post if I could. Your post is nothing but ridiculous fanboyism and you're obviously a graphics whore. Who gives a fuck about what version has better graphics? It's people like you that have driven the game industry to the point it's at now. It cost more money than ever to create a game and less 3rd party developers are making original, unique games and aren't taking as many risks with new franchises because they are afraid they won't break even because your picky ass won't accept games with graphics that don't meet your expectations.
So, please pat yourself on the back for nearly killing off the videogame industry. The Wii saved your ass from a video game market crash.
10/01/09
Somebody made the claim that source games don't need to be downscaled for the xbox360. ThreeOneFive made a point that this ain't true and now he's a PC fanboy for pointing out an fact?
And tbh since the current generation of HD consoles with 720p/1080p consoles players have been promoting "oh it's not HD, no need, looks like a PS2/Wii game blah blah" while indie developers grow on the PC market with fresh ideas compared to graphic whoring.
The Wii didn't save anyones ass, it only made gaming more mainstream and while doing that managed to dump down gaming even more. If the Wii did something it's been degrading gaming because games get simpler and simpler so you average mom can play them. I wouldn't call that taking gaming into a "new direction" i would rather call it milking the cow to the extreme because something like this has been around way before the Wii.
10/01/09
The games I grew up on in the 80's weren't any less dumb than the games for the wii targeted at these 'casual markets'.
These markets also support the industry as a whole, which is good for the games industry economy and allow more revenue to develop new IP(doesn't gaurantee it will happen though sadly).
The wii and it's interface didn't have to dumb down gaming, unfortunately any broad society is going to have the majority of people in the category of mediocre, because they represent that demographic.
I could as easily say the hardcore are killing the games because they are the nit pickers that represent the smallest niche and are the hardest to please.
They have their own interests they might be more focused on other than gaming. I'm certain there's other medium, that you enjoy, but not be as hardcore about as others. Those others would probably find your interest in them 'dumbing them down" as they would see you as the unwashed masses. Don't get me wrong there's plenty of mediums out there that could be better, and sometimes i regret my rather tourist like knowledge and appreciation of them, but for the time being there are still plenty of core games with more depth available and coming.
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So, no one's paying any money for distribution, which allows for sales to a more suitable price. If you're paying full price for a game on Steam (that isn't old or hasn't already been marked down like hell) than you're doing it wrong.
(Disclaimer: it's 7 AM and I have yet to go to sleep. I'm sure there are typos and logical fallacies in this post, so, apologies abound.)
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But still, for a broke ass college student, ten bucks is a lot cheaper than twenty, especially for principles.
06/24/09
I am afraid to adapt to change and use my computer to actually play games again, but Left 4 Dead on 360 just isn't cutting it anymore. Time to see what this bucket of crap can do other than Sims 3. Sigh.