So he claims Blu-Ray fails under the "Worst" tech category because the media is expensive, but praises a $800 cell phone? Well I've come under conclusion that this man's head seems to be only good for holding hats.
Blu Ray would show promise if the sales scheme reflected DVDs and VHSs, in that they had to lower down the price of the media to attract buyers.
I believe that despite what "the experts" say, there will always be a percentage of people in decent to great numbers that insist on having a hard copy of said media. but even then people in this economy will have to question if they want to pay the extra 15 dollars (This is gathered from walking into the local Best Buy, Walmart, Fye and Target stores today, btw.) for HD resolution, or if they are fine with standard definition of the DVD.
I like Blu-Ray myself. but I also know that I personally wouldn't break down in tears if I were to find out that the next movie I watched were in DVD's MPEG-2 format, either.
And I'll also admit that I am not entirely sold on Blu-Ray either. Being that I want the movie first and foremost, and can't see too much a difference between the cinema projections (or in some cases, digital broadcasts, now.) and the DVD quality, it is safe to say that unless there are exceptional differences (Night At The Museum, anyone?), I am far less likely to pay the extra fifteen dollars.
Sadly, because of the grab-ass-ery that goes on at the "thinktanking" at Sony Corporation (Wait, can I put that in the same sentence?), you are probably not going to see price reductions to Blu-Ray discs that would make it a more attractive alternative and/or replacement to the DVD. With the constant pigheadedness that I believe we are watching Sony Corp dishing out with their medicore product lines, the high amount of bullshit propietary (and often failed) mediums offered, and arguably arrogant stance given by company execs who feel the need to feebly attempt elitism within their mediocrity, I am not suprised if the Blu-Ray disc goes the way of the BetaMax.
Some of us were thinking this. I felt the need to say it.
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Soldier_CLE says DON'T STOP AT THE STAR! REVOKE THE WHOLE DAMN THING, OWEN!!! was unstarred
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the thing with Blu-Ray is sure it has a better picture and sound,but its nowhere near the leap in technology that we had with VHS to DVD...and with Blu-Ray costing a lot more than DVD,i am still more than happy to stick to my DVDs,the picture on DVDs are fine
@metallicorphan: ALOT more is stretching it. I got The Dark Knight for 22 dollars, iron man 22 dollars, transformers 25 dollars. DVD's 19.99 somplaces but mostly 25 dollars.
@dillinger23: The standard edition DVD of The Dark Knight is roughly $15-19 depending on the sale. Transformers can now be found for anywhere from $5-10.
If you compare the super awesome deluxe DVD version to the standard BD version then yeah...it's a bit closer.
He's talking about Blu-Ray as a whole data format, not just for games. Blu_Ray is slow, slow, slow. That's why the PS3 needs all the mandatory installs. Otherwise the loading times would be catastrophic.
It holds data well - lots of it - hence it's great for movies, where the data unspools slowly and steadily over a long period of time, but it's not great for games where you want large bursts of data quickly.
There are advantages, but unless you own the tech that you are pushing, there's no real reason for the expense associated with switching to the format across the board.
@Horusz: Comes down to personal opinion doesn't it? And personally, I think it's more than a "slightly" better experience and well worth what we spent.
People have absolutely no attention span anymore. "What? Blu Ray doesn't have the entire 100,000+ catalog that DVD has developed over ten years? Why, it's obviously destined to fail!"
It's been out for two years, one and a half of which it was battling with a rival for share of the market, and it has the dubious distinction of vying for widespread adoption in one of the worst economic recessions in memory. I can only assume that the doomsayers for the format either weren't alive, or weren't paying attention, when CDs and DVDs first broke, they were expensive, limitedly used, and had a small catalog too.
@Horusz: Digital distribution is a long way off and personally, when it does come around I doubt it will be the alternative to physical media. Physical media will always be around.
I got my BR player like 2 weeks ago and I'm loving it. Too bad movies here in Brazil cost 50 + dollars. And yet people bitch to pay more than 15 dollars. Anyway, BR is really good, I love the quality of it.
ha ha ha. I agree with both. I've just spent almost 3 hours going from store to store to store to FINALLY find a Rock Band 2 Wireless Guitar- EVERYWHERE is sold out of them- finally found one 38 miles from my house. Why all the fuss- I still play Rock Band daily and I also listen to more music and more of a VARIETY of music on RB than I do on my iTunes. With my Blu-Ray- I've had a PS3 for over a year and a half... I own ONE Blu Ray movie that I've opened. I bought Blade Runner last year and I bought Wall-E for Christmas- still not opened of course. My biggest complaint with Blu Ray is the BULLSHIT that goes with it. First off- the movies are outragously overpriced and all the nonsense about how much more they can fit on a disk. If that's the case- why is it that almost EVERY Col. Ed. of movies is STILL on two Blu-Ray disks??? Why is it that the PS3 games are still mind shatteringly short and with NO extras??? It's all bullshit marketing as far as I've seen so far. So I completely agree with Blu-Ray being a tech train wreck. When they lower the price to being realistic- I'll start converting my collection. When I see PS3 games that actually fill the disk up with something other than 19 language tracks (you know what I mean) then I'll be impressed. For now though- I'm still buying weekly tracks on Rock Band and that came on my old fashioned DVD format.
@d20Dark1: "all the nonsense about how much more they can fit on a disk. If that's the case- why is it that almost EVERY Col. Ed. of movies is STILL on two Blu-Ray disks???"
Um, you do realize that HD audio and video take up a hell of a lot of space, right?
"Why is it that the PS3 games are still mind shatteringly short and with NO extras???"
Why on earth are you blaming the blu ray format and not the developers for this? God, what a silly comment.
"When I see PS3 games that actually fill the disk up with something other than 19 language tracks (you know what I mean) then I'll be impressed."
Not sure if you've heard of this little game but it's called Metal Gear Solid 4. Pretty cool, you might want to check it out.
If his reason for simply disliking the format is because it's taking off slowly (I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that that's what he meant) and too expensive at the moment, okay, I guess. But how in God's name does that make it one of the worst tech products of '08? Shit, I don't think he's looking hard enough.
Then again, this is Yahoo, whose gaming "articles" are generally thinly veiled advertisments for Microsoft that we're talking about here.
@ReconToaster.: And since Rock Band appeals not only to niche gamers but to all kinds of people who may have never picked up a controller in their life...that makes it a pretty damn good game.
Is this the same Yahoo who are desperate to sell themselves to any passing tech giant with a huge amount of money to spare, like, ooh, I don't know, just off the top of my head, Microsoft for instance? Just wondering.
@DragonYen: ofcourse it is, it's on kotaku. if they didnt expect fanboys to come her talking bad about the ps3, why would they put it on kotaku? this should go on gizmodo or something.
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I believe that despite what "the experts" say, there will always be a percentage of people in decent to great numbers that insist on having a hard copy of said media. but even then people in this economy will have to question if they want to pay the extra 15 dollars (This is gathered from walking into the local Best Buy, Walmart, Fye and Target stores today, btw.) for HD resolution, or if they are fine with standard definition of the DVD.
I like Blu-Ray myself. but I also know that I personally wouldn't break down in tears if I were to find out that the next movie I watched were in DVD's MPEG-2 format, either.
And I'll also admit that I am not entirely sold on Blu-Ray either. Being that I want the movie first and foremost, and can't see too much a difference between the cinema projections (or in some cases, digital broadcasts, now.) and the DVD quality, it is safe to say that unless there are exceptional differences (Night At The Museum, anyone?), I am far less likely to pay the extra fifteen dollars.
Sadly, because of the grab-ass-ery that goes on at the "thinktanking" at Sony Corporation (Wait, can I put that in the same sentence?), you are probably not going to see price reductions to Blu-Ray discs that would make it a more attractive alternative and/or replacement to the DVD. With the constant pigheadedness that I believe we are watching Sony Corp dishing out with their medicore product lines, the high amount of bullshit propietary (and often failed) mediums offered, and arguably arrogant stance given by company execs who feel the need to feebly attempt elitism within their mediocrity, I am not suprised if the Blu-Ray disc goes the way of the BetaMax.
Some of us were thinking this. I felt the need to say it.
Well, that, and FIRE STRINGER NOW!!!
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google >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yahoo
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If they were, I'd have seen it in the Investor Relations postings.
That, or the Bloomberg Report.
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If you compare the super awesome deluxe DVD version to the standard BD version then yeah...it's a bit closer.
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It holds data well - lots of it - hence it's great for movies, where the data unspools slowly and steadily over a long period of time, but it's not great for games where you want large bursts of data quickly.
There are advantages, but unless you own the tech that you are pushing, there's no real reason for the expense associated with switching to the format across the board.
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I've done DMC4...Burnout needed one I think...
..And my downloaded games maybe?
There's not that many mandatory installs. And the ones that don't call for it work just fine to me.
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And the question is, is it worth all that money for a slightly better experience?
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bluray will eventually take off. Sure its pricey but its new.
and a lot of older movies are coming out in Bluray. goes to show where the industry wants to take the format.
Laptops are already coming with Bluray burners.
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People have absolutely no attention span anymore. "What? Blu Ray doesn't have the entire 100,000+ catalog that DVD has developed over ten years? Why, it's obviously destined to fail!"
It's been out for two years, one and a half of which it was battling with a rival for share of the market, and it has the dubious distinction of vying for widespread adoption in one of the worst economic recessions in memory. I can only assume that the doomsayers for the format either weren't alive, or weren't paying attention, when CDs and DVDs first broke, they were expensive, limitedly used, and had a small catalog too.
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Meh, I still think blu-ray will be overshadowed by digital distribution in the coming years.
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Um, you do realize that HD audio and video take up a hell of a lot of space, right?
"Why is it that the PS3 games are still mind shatteringly short and with NO extras???"
Why on earth are you blaming the blu ray format and not the developers for this? God, what a silly comment.
"When I see PS3 games that actually fill the disk up with something other than 19 language tracks (you know what I mean) then I'll be impressed."
Not sure if you've heard of this little game but it's called Metal Gear Solid 4. Pretty cool, you might want to check it out.
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He's explaining that from his perspective, Blu-ray has done NOTHING to improve his gaming experience.
And let's be honest here, so far, it hasn't.
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@Kris: ...which is why I'm not sure I understand your point.
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Then again, this is Yahoo, whose gaming "articles" are generally thinly veiled advertisments for Microsoft that we're talking about here.
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Name a game this year that is as long-lasting, well-supported and downright fun as Rock Band 2.
The depth, artistic value, and game design are all present and top-notch, and the story is what you make it. If you don't want one, it's not there.
It's not just a good casual game, it's a great game, period.
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oh yes, lets pick a game with absolutely no artistic value, game design, story or depth as the "best" of 2008.
Seriously, it's a good CASUAL game.
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