@Curse lily: Yeah I'm not much bothered for it.
I guess it stop people complaining for it, but I guarantee there will be some people who will jump on the next thing PSN is missing.
I personally I jsut want a webkit browser. #ps3
@deanbmmv: That thing is that i don't find much use for this.
I've play my friend 360 while talking with another friend, and i found myself irritated by just talking random chitchat and trying to focus on not getting my keister handed to me all the time. Heck we use skype from time to time, and surely out of nowhere we stop talking and get back to playing the game...which sometimes i end up getting spook by my friend cursing because i forgot that the damn thing was still on ^_^
I won't say no to this feature(hey you never know)but i would prefer to have Adhoc Party instead of this...or both ^_^
lol i'll be complaining about those premium avatars they mention before, and i'm sure i'll think of something after that (^_~) #ps3
@Curse lily: Yeah if I'm playing a game, I don't really want to be distracted. Especially if I'm on multiplayer, all I want to hear and talk to are team mates. Though in most cases I only really play on line with friends, so I guess most folks playing with random folks will be happy to mute their team to chat with friends.
I don't not want this feature, but I don't see myself making much use of it. #ps3
I'm still not sure what cross game chat is useful for (?)
If I see someone online playing something and I want to game with them I'll drop them a PSN in-game message so they can respond to it whenever they have a free moment.
Not to mention a lot of the time I don't even have my bluetooth headset on when gaming online so for games that do voice through the headset only, I wouldn't hear anything.
If I do have my bluetooth headset on, it's for a game that requires a lot of communication, and the last thing I need is someone being able to butt in and start jabbering at me at the wrong moment. An unobtrusive message is a lot better.
So, do that many people feel the need to chat with someone else online while playing two different games at two different locations? #ps3
@MrBounce: Ok, I may be off the mark here, but just because it says cross game that doesn't necessarily mean you have to be in different games. When I play CoD I'm always with my friend and just mute everyone on our team because they are always so ignorant (here's looking at you, Mr. blast the music and destroy my eardrum) So I would love the feature for that #ps3
@XODIS: See, I can totally understand in-game chat for the SAME game, esp. those that don't have online chat like Demon's Souls (not to mention some multiplayer online games implement it poorly), but I just find it odd for CROSS-game chat.
I guess what I can't wrap my head around is not wanting to play the same game as your friend(s). To me, that's like being at a bar and while you're all drinking, your friend is playing darts and you're playing pool. Sure you can have a shouted conversation over the other noise at the bar, but wouldn't it be better to be playing the same thing (?)
Eh, to each his own. I'm just glad they're fixing the hideous friends list. #ps3
Sony, this is the only damn thing I have left to ask for of your platform. It has done everything else I've asked of it. But this one is BIG, and I don't see why it's taking so long. It's a seemingly simple thing to do, and MS has figured out how to do it from Day 1.
@PapaBear434: Correct me if I'm wrong (I may have dreamt this), but I vaguely remember reading something about Microsoft patenting the way their X-Game Chat works? Or was that simply fanboy hearsay?
If true, that would most definitely be a legitimate reason for the hold up.
I have actually never heard that, but it would make sense. And it's fairly believable, considering that the bigger a corporation is the more crazy and unlikely patents they usually have. #ps3
I like that at least they are saying "we're working on it".
Just like in-game XMB, it will come, it just takes time considering the PS3's architecture. Plus, think about it. Cross-Game chat has to be backwards-compatible with previously released games. Nightmare for a programmer. #ps3
@jandlecack: no it does not.
Our cross game chat on xbox live has nothing to do with the game at all. It's an operating system level feature not a game feature.
Same as the music that we can listen to while playing a game - it is independent of the game itself thus taking away that 'nightmare' for programmers.
@gamertag_thebrit: But that's not how it automatically works for the PS3 as well. Look at In-Game XMB, it's an "operating system" feature yet it does not support every single game.
Plus I've heard similar things about X-Game chat, as Archaotic said. There's one party whose games are notorious for not functioning with the Sony developed Cross-Game-Chat functionality and they blocked Sony from releasing it. That was the rumour at the time at least. #ps3
The only thing I wish you could be able to do is rearrange the Games part of the XMB. As it is now, it's just a mess when you download a lot of stuff from the PSN. You should be able to at the very least have the PSN games, PS1 games, and demos in separate sub-menus and then be able to arrange those either by name or put into genre sub-menus. As it is right now you have to trudge through a ton of stuff to guess where the game or demo you want to play is in the mess of things.
The only thing doen right is that the PS1 games are all the way at the bottom, so they're not lumped all together with demos and full PSN games.
That's really my only gripe about the XMB, the cluttered Games menu.
shouldn't the emphasis be on "why" rather than "would"? that just seems odd. I love how emphasis can really change the tone of just about any sentence, but it doesn't really make much sense here like that.
I entirely agree the PS3's XMB is easy and fun to use and shouldn't be radically replaced, though some improvements could be nice. My #1 gripe with it is that it uses the MP3 files' ID3 tags to grab the title, and uses those to sort an album alphabetically. There's no option to either sort by track number, or just screw ID3 Tags altogether and sort them by the filenames, which I always neatly organize with "01-", "02-", "03-" etc in the begining. It would probably make loading and displaying the files a lot faster since no further analysis would be necessary, and damn, I hate those ID3 Tags
@Inzoum: Im afraid you're mistaken... if they arent being organised by album and track number then the ID3 tags are wrong... just press triangle on the offending song and go to info... from there you can assign a track number and they'll organise properly...
I recently put my entire music collection on my PS3 (custom harddrive) and spent a day cleaning up my library....
Am I the only one who hates the XMB on the PS3? I find its aggrivating to look for things, too small in terms of the space onscreen that it takes up, and overall its just really really boring. Granted, Im a fan of the original blade system, but I prefer NXE over the XMB anyday. Mainly because I like my screen being used by something other than a cross bar. XMB feels great on the PSP, like it was meant for it, but I feel sony got lazy and just threw it on the PS3, where it just doesnt fit all that well on a large screen.
The thing you hate about the XMB is exactly what makes it popular with the fans: the calm, the fact that nothing is happening. No bright colors, no ads, nothing about X and Y. All of this has its own place, the XMB is merely a lobby. You don't feel pressured in any way.
You should try listening to some music without a screensaver, and watch the wavy thing move. I've sat there looking at it for the duration of albums.
Two design ideologies, really. Microsoft wants you to rush to your wallet as soon as you press the power button. Sony is more laid back, and I like that. I won't even get into how customizable (for free) the XMB is.
@FP_slomo788: The "Earth" music visualization is IMO the best visualization period! It looks great with any song. And I've put over 20gb of music into the PS3 so far, with at least another 20gb of my collection to go.
Have you ever put episodic television shows on your ps3. It's stunning to see the vertical wave of animation as the 10sec animatic representation of each episode is played a split second apart.
@m3rcer: heh, I upgraded my harddrive to a 500GB one, 250 of which is filled with music!
And for the sake of being different I'm going to show some love for the other visualisation... the one with randomly generated waves and vistas of colour... its really intense and visually stunning!
Every month the colour changes (and it does so gradually, so at the end of the month it might be mid transaction between pink and green (some muggy brown) but mid way through the month it'll be an intense emerald green....
then the colours are effected by the time of day, and any console with a sunrise and sunset gets a thumbs up from me! (to test it, try mucking around with your clock settings)
@exion: I just put in a 160gb hd and between music and video, I'm already running out of room. I'll probably get a nice 500gb like yourself soon. Why is it the more space you have the faster it fills up? Ha!
I love that dimmer - I play close to a big HDTV, so at night, it kindly holds back from searing my eyes out of their sockets like so many white-background websites...
PS button's for quitting the program, toggling power, and doing controller reassignment... Messages are a function of the XMB, which you can't quit - the cancel button works fine though. To me, cancelling a message with the PS button would be like putting your car in park and shutting it off at a red light...
They've also tried to redesign the controller - but the outcry from fans led them to go back on that. They wanted to alter/update it a bit, but like they say, if it's not broken, don't fix it...
@elmorepow: That's ironic since the XMB is a glorified Windows Media Center interface.... well accept the XMB goes right to left for main categories then up and down for subs, and the MCE goes up and down for main and then left to right for subs. Even the background is quite similar.
@NitroAML: truth be told, I do like this design... it retains the functionality of the in-game-xmb without the clutter of the unusable stuff (like videos, network, pictures, etc)... Plus it works in some nice new practical features like displaying a players level right from the friends list, the clock not being hidden by the battery charge icon, etc...
Truth be told the aesthetic reminds me more of Steam than of the NXE... and thats not a bad thing.
Currently the in game xmb is good, but theres a lot of room for improvement... this fan-made mock-up is on the right track, in my opinion.
blah the XMB is bland. The store should be more integrated. Xbox has it right. Everywhere you go are links to buy more, see more. There aren't ads anywhere. How do they even make money?
@FrancisEdwood: Most people love it for that very reason, it's ad free. Want ads? Go to Home. And the PS Store is organized in a fashion that invites you to buy, there is no reason for it to jump at your throat as soon as you start the console. Everything is just neat, and not a clusterfuck. I didn't even know some people liked being bombarded with crap.
@FrancisEdwood: Dear god, I hope that was sarcasm...
Also, if you care THAT much about the absence of ads on your (presumably imaginary) PS3, turn on the info widget that periodically advertises stuff on the store, new releases and promotions... and if that's not enough, download a mcdonalds theme.
I absolutely love the XMB. I find it aesthetically pleasing from a designer-standpoint, and I would love it even more to see it featured on more Sony-products, which that are planning.
Hell, I could consider buying more Sony-products if they featured the XMB, because there's just something about that red thread flowing through it all that really talks to me.
11/17/09
But i think(occasionally i do)is about time they listen to their customer rants about this feature and deliver it. #ps3
11/17/09
I guess it stop people complaining for it, but I guarantee there will be some people who will jump on the next thing PSN is missing.
I personally I jsut want a webkit browser. #ps3
11/17/09
I've play my friend 360 while talking with another friend, and i found myself irritated by just talking random chitchat and trying to focus on not getting my keister handed to me all the time. Heck we use skype from time to time, and surely out of nowhere we stop talking and get back to playing the game...which sometimes i end up getting spook by my friend cursing because i forgot that the damn thing was still on ^_^
I won't say no to this feature(hey you never know)but i would prefer to have Adhoc Party instead of this...or both ^_^
lol i'll be complaining about those premium avatars they mention before, and i'm sure i'll think of something after that (^_~) #ps3
11/17/09
I don't not want this feature, but I don't see myself making much use of it. #ps3
11/17/09
If I see someone online playing something and I want to game with them I'll drop them a PSN in-game message so they can respond to it whenever they have a free moment.
Not to mention a lot of the time I don't even have my bluetooth headset on when gaming online so for games that do voice through the headset only, I wouldn't hear anything.
If I do have my bluetooth headset on, it's for a game that requires a lot of communication, and the last thing I need is someone being able to butt in and start jabbering at me at the wrong moment. An unobtrusive message is a lot better.
So, do that many people feel the need to chat with someone else online while playing two different games at two different locations? #ps3
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I guess what I can't wrap my head around is not wanting to play the same game as your friend(s). To me, that's like being at a bar and while you're all drinking, your friend is playing darts and you're playing pool. Sure you can have a shouted conversation over the other noise at the bar, but wouldn't it be better to be playing the same thing (?)
Eh, to each his own. I'm just glad they're fixing the hideous friends list. #ps3
11/17/09
Though I'll most likely never use it, I hope it comes out for you folks. Plus, it'd be nice to know it's there in the event I ever should want it.
11/17/09
Get up on it, bitches. #ps3
11/17/09
If true, that would most definitely be a legitimate reason for the hold up.
11/17/09
I have actually never heard that, but it would make sense. And it's fairly believable, considering that the bigger a corporation is the more crazy and unlikely patents they usually have. #ps3
11/17/09
Just like in-game XMB, it will come, it just takes time considering the PS3's architecture. Plus, think about it. Cross-Game chat has to be backwards-compatible with previously released games. Nightmare for a programmer. #ps3
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Take that as you will. #ps3
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Our cross game chat on xbox live has nothing to do with the game at all. It's an operating system level feature not a game feature.
Same as the music that we can listen to while playing a game - it is independent of the game itself thus taking away that 'nightmare' for programmers.
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Plus I've heard similar things about X-Game chat, as Archaotic said. There's one party whose games are notorious for not functioning with the Sony developed Cross-Game-Chat functionality and they blocked Sony from releasing it. That was the rumour at the time at least. #ps3
07/08/09
The only real enhancement I'd add is the ability to create user-made folders for photos and movies.
07/08/09
Also, I downloaded a demo not too long ago, and it ended up appearing 6 times in the game tab. Annoying as hell.
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The only thing doen right is that the PS1 games are all the way at the bottom, so they're not lumped all together with demos and full PSN games.
That's really my only gripe about the XMB, the cluttered Games menu.
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Job done.
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I entirely agree the PS3's XMB is easy and fun to use and shouldn't be radically replaced, though some improvements could be nice. My #1 gripe with it is that it uses the MP3 files' ID3 tags to grab the title, and uses those to sort an album alphabetically. There's no option to either sort by track number, or just screw ID3 Tags altogether and sort them by the filenames, which I always neatly organize with "01-", "02-", "03-" etc in the begining. It would probably make loading and displaying the files a lot faster since no further analysis would be necessary, and damn, I hate those ID3 Tags
07/08/09
I recently put my entire music collection on my PS3 (custom harddrive) and spent a day cleaning up my library....
it's a tedious task, but it's doable.
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The thing you hate about the XMB is exactly what makes it popular with the fans: the calm, the fact that nothing is happening. No bright colors, no ads, nothing about X and Y. All of this has its own place, the XMB is merely a lobby. You don't feel pressured in any way.
You should try listening to some music without a screensaver, and watch the wavy thing move. I've sat there looking at it for the duration of albums.
Two design ideologies, really. Microsoft wants you to rush to your wallet as soon as you press the power button. Sony is more laid back, and I like that. I won't even get into how customizable (for free) the XMB is.
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07/08/09
Have you ever put episodic television shows on your ps3. It's stunning to see the vertical wave of animation as the 10sec animatic representation of each episode is played a split second apart.
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And for the sake of being different I'm going to show some love for the other visualisation... the one with randomly generated waves and vistas of colour... its really intense and visually stunning!
07/08/09
It was one of the first things I noticed...
Every month the colour changes (and it does so gradually, so at the end of the month it might be mid transaction between pink and green (some muggy brown) but mid way through the month it'll be an intense emerald green....
then the colours are effected by the time of day, and any console with a sunrise and sunset gets a thumbs up from me! (to test it, try mucking around with your clock settings)
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I love that dimmer - I play close to a big HDTV, so at night, it kindly holds back from searing my eyes out of their sockets like so many white-background websites...
@evilweevle:
PS button's for quitting the program, toggling power, and doing controller reassignment... Messages are a function of the XMB, which you can't quit - the cancel button works fine though. To me, cancelling a message with the PS button would be like putting your car in park and shutting it off at a red light...
They've also tried to redesign the controller - but the outcry from fans led them to go back on that. They wanted to alter/update it a bit, but like they say, if it's not broken, don't fix it...
07/08/09
Just use media server software and stream from your PC. 3.5" drives are cheaper than 2.5"s, and so my PS3 has access to terabytes of music and movies.
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This would look waaaaay better than the current XMB IMO.
07/08/09
Truth be told the aesthetic reminds me more of Steam than of the NXE... and thats not a bad thing.
Currently the in game xmb is good, but theres a lot of room for improvement... this fan-made mock-up is on the right track, in my opinion.
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Also, if you care THAT much about the absence of ads on your (presumably imaginary) PS3, turn on the info widget that periodically advertises stuff on the store, new releases and promotions... and if that's not enough, download a mcdonalds theme.
Gin Gan - fucking - goo.
07/08/09
Hell, I could consider buying more Sony-products if they featured the XMB, because there's just something about that red thread flowing through it all that really talks to me.
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If it can survive a sauna and a freezer, it can survive some drool.
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I don't mind the opinion, I prefer XMB myself. I do mind the not so subtle trolling though.