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    Image of buddhathing buddhathing
    03:20 PM

    In reply to Achievement Chore: She Plays For Gamerscore, Whether It's Fun Or Not
    Owen, this article was terrific. Your articles are always enlivened when you're able to interview someone, but human-interest reporting reflects your strengths well. I was reminded of some of your truly touching night notes, which are among my favorite things you've written. But as wonderful as they are, they reflect a skill set that isn't always fully utilized in your day-to-day writing for Kotaku.
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    Image of LilSpitfire LilSpitfire
    03:26 PM

    @buddhathing: Sometimes you need fluff to balance a serious topic. But I do agree. I love Owen's writing style and approach.
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    Image of Duckspwn Duckspwn
    03:16 PM

    In reply to Achievement Chore: She Plays For Gamerscore, Whether It's Fun Or Not
    Jumper: Griffin's Story has extremely easy achievements that are worth 50 gp each, which explains why she bought it. I bet they put those in the game just to force someone (achievement whores) to buy it.
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    Image of Slothboy Slothboy
    03:04 PM

    In reply to Achievement Chore: She Plays For Gamerscore, Whether It's Fun Or Not
    Hm. I have a decent gamerscore, 23,502. I like to hear the "bleep bloop" when I'm playing and I have definitely put in some sweat to pick up some of those more difficult achievements. But I stop when it is not fun anymore.

    If it's a game I don't like or an achievement that would require way too much effort (most frequently this is with multiplayer achievements) then I don't bother with it.

    I don't understand why she is beating herself half to death playing games she admits she isn't enjoying, just to get her score up.

    I like achievements when they encourage me to play the game more thoroughly than I would have otherwise. Grinding just for the points doesn't appeal to me.
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    Image of CMay CMay
    02:49 PM

    In reply to Achievement Chore: She Plays For Gamerscore, Whether It's Fun Or Not
    Well, once you've invested yourself so far into something you have to weigh the disappointment of giving up early against the cost/reward for reaching the goal.

    In the end it's part of your life story to be able to say you dedicated yourself and were in the top 5 out of millions. Maybe it's competitiveness, maybe it's an addiction, but this is a lifestyle that was completely impossible not long ago.

    While I'm sure the work involved in collecting things often isn't fun itself, the rush from all the micro milestones combined with the community recognition and participation could certainly keep it interesting.

    This is basically making a game out of games. So, to hell with it, go for 200k or whatever. There are much worse ways to spend your time and at least this way you get recorded credit for having done it.

    My primary aversion to this would be that it can devalue the actual content of the game when you play through it optimally for a singular purpose instead of experiencing the game as intended. However, many of the games really are pretty crappy and it may be more fun farming achievements out of them than going through the game normally.
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    Image of karaiya karaiya
    02:36 PM

    In reply to Achievement Chore: She Plays For Gamerscore, Whether It's Fun Or Not
    I'm definitely no achievement/trophy whore, but I have to admit that I do enjoy hearing the little ding after beating a boss. I also like to look at what other people are playing and earning on my friends list.
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    Image of Cookie Cookie
    02:33 PM

    In reply to Achievement Chore: She Plays For Gamerscore, Whether It's Fun Or Not
    My step brother used to be into the whole achievement hunting thing. He racked up about 50,000 points before he slowed down and started to play games he actually enjoyed again. Lot's Kung-Fu Panda and the like, but he also spent a lot of time on the harder achievements. Like trying to perform every song on Guitar Hero perfectly.

    It's a shame beating a movie-tie in is worth more points than getting 100% in GTA. I like PSN's trophy system because it seems less arbitrary, but I just haven't invested enough time on my Slim to really care about trophies.
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    Image of RoboBagins RoboBagins
    02:23 PM

    In reply to Achievement Chore: She Plays For Gamerscore, Whether It's Fun Or Not
    Microsoft must love these guys.

    Also when she says she's not hurting anyone, and thinks about how many games she could buy for the cost of rehab, it totally sounded like someone denying they have problem.

    Personally though, I don't care or get it. It's not like it gets you anything.
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    Image of NeVeRMoRe666 NeVeRMoRe666
    02:21 PM

    In reply to Achievement Chore: She Plays For Gamerscore, Whether It's Fun Or Not
    On one hand, I do feel her actions kind of undermine the point of playing games; typically you play for the experience of playing, not for the numbers. Yet, on the other, I am and have always been an advocate for people's ability to customize their playing experience to the way they want it to be. If she wants to collect every single achievement out there, I salute her and wish her luck on such a lofty endeavor. Despite what she says, I'm sure she enjoys the achievement hunt on some level. If I got to play a multitude of games none-stop, I, too, would also be a happy camper.

    For those of you who say that what she's doing is pointless or achievements mean nothing, that's really your opinion.

    Would you say it to Billy Mitchell or Steve Wiebe or heck, even Owen's (world record score for some game I can't remember now that he broke and maybe hopefully he will remind us all which and maybe link the article) face that their own hi-scores mean nothing?

    Different things mean different things for different people (probably could have phrased that better).
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    Edited by NeVeRMoRe666 at 12/09/09 2:21 PM NeVeRMoRe666 was starred NeVeRMoRe666 was unstarred
    Image of kelbear kelbear
    02:19 PM

    In reply to Achievement Chore: She Plays For Gamerscore, Whether It's Fun Or Not
    I sense a double standard at play here.

    If this was a single guy, every post under this article would be mocking this person for being such an incredible loser.

    Is it because she's female? Married? Or because she's a mother? How about a married guy with a child and he stays at home racking up gamerscore while the wife works? Imagine the comments in that situation!

    EDIT: Why is she buying crappy games anyway? She could just rent games on Gamefly, milk it for achievements and return it. Clearly she isn't going back to replay the games she hated playing, so why buy it? I'm closing on 30k without even trying because most games hand out the majority of the achievements points for simply completing the singleplayer campaign.
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    Image of SeanGone SeanGone
    02:04 PM

    In reply to Achievement Chore: She Plays For Gamerscore, Whether It's Fun Or Not
    your gamerscore purists arguments are moot. totally.
    if you think that any of the top gamerscore holders have the scores they do because of 'legitmate' (what ever that is) play are out of your mind. the top echelon of gamerscore acheivers are there by doing exactly what she is doing. there is an entire subculture of gamers that are in to it.
    this is how she chooses to enjoy video games.
    most people play the game themselves. she plays the gamerscore.
    i'm willing to bet that she would probably woop up on most regular gamers anyhow.
    i think it's sillier that there are people out there that will invest as much time as she does on 1 game as oppossed to everyone you can get your hands on.
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    Image of Dr. Evil Genius has learned that MILF stands for Moro Islamic Liberation Front Dr. Evil Genius has learned that MILF stands for Moro Islamic Liberation Front
    01:54 PM

    In reply to Achievement Chore: She Plays For Gamerscore, Whether It's Fun Or Not
    I think I am the opposite of this woman - and not just the fact that I am a dude.

    I will buy one game (online multiplayer) and play only that game until the sequel is released. I will try to get to be an upper-echelon player in that community.

    Playing a bunch of games that I don't want to play isn't play anymore and by definition, defeats the purpose.

    Paying thousands of $$$ to be bored?
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    Image of Kris Kris
    01:50 PM

    In reply to Achievement Chore: She Plays For Gamerscore, Whether It's Fun Or Not
    That's what regular people refer to as "cheating." Seriously, it means jack shit if you didn't work hard for it on your own and really earn it.
    I hate, hate, hate when people in Halo talk to you and ask things like "Hey, will you guys line up like this so I can get the laser shot achievement." Or want you to stand there so they can run you over with their vehicle.

    It's hilarious that it's fine to tweak your gamer score, but heaven forbid she play a game with her daughter and those achievements get added to the score.

    The only other thing I have to say is that her husband must be one of the most considerate guys on the planet (though honestly, it's probably hurting her). For most people, when a partner is spending money like that and not even saying so, that's divorce.
    At least she's self aware; that's something.
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    Image of Orionsaint Orionsaint
    01:48 PM

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    Image of cncrndreader7 cncrndreader7
    01:42 PM

    In reply to Achievement Chore: She Plays For Gamerscore, Whether It's Fun Or Not
    What's with the assumption that she neglects her daughter? The misogyny going on in here is a little disappointing. Should she be frolicking with her kid in the garden at 10pm? Pleasing her husband after he's had a hard day towing cars?
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    Image of AOClaus AOClaus
    01:35 PM

    In reply to Achievement Chore: She Plays For Gamerscore, Whether It's Fun Or Not
    If that's what it takes to be a "great" gamer...I think I'll stick with being a mediocre one.
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