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07/08/09
Party chat where friends can interact regardless of what they are playing is worth $50 a year all by itself. Just don't tell that to Microsoft, I don't need any more ads popping up on my dashboard.
07/07/09
they need to do something to surpass Live, not just copy it.
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And yet those gamers disagree... Some think XBL is worth the money, some don't...
07/07/09
There is only a few things Xbox Live has that the PSN doesn't.
1.) Everyone I know who games has both a 360 and Xbox Live. I barely know anybody with a PS3 let alone a PSN account.
2.) Headsets. The 360 came bundled with a pair. As a result, there are a lot of people using it on it. From what I heard from PSN, nobody uses mics. Only a few. Just because Sony never packaged any from what I know.
3.) Publicity. Non-gamers knows what Xbox Live is. The same can't be said about PSN. Partially because Xbox Live is synonymous with the Xbox Brand itself while PSN still feels like a seperate feature.
If Sony could make PSN as popular as Live with about the same number of users as Live (not counting those with multiple profiles), then PSN will be like Xbox Live.
Just my take however.
07/07/09
I even had a headset - used it once, and never used it again. Don't even know where the hell the charger for it is anymore, and I don't care to find it.
07/07/09
@n00b_pwner: That's funny, I don't have core, am not interested, and have never had a problem playing online... OH THAT'S RIGHT, BECAUSE PSN IS FREE ONLINE PLAY!
Damn them for wanting alternate, optional routes for paying for the service while keeping the basics free... Unlike XBL which charges you for the basics then charges you for other stuff on top of that.
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Most of the "problems" with PSN at this point don't even really bother me, and I would much rather have Xbox Live Silver to be like PSN. (Of course, then people would realize they are paying for nothing basically and MS would lose a lot of money)
I mean why do we even pay for Online play on the 360? Everything is fucking hosted locally.
07/07/09
Truthfully the only things that really matter that are better on Live is marginally faster downloads and that comes from a better software back end which can be fixed on Sony's end for PSN. Cross game voice chat and other things people complain about are really just fluff stuff that don't actually matter because they're horribly niche.
Why not just fire up Ventrillo for instance? It won't force your hardware to handle more of a load after all and serves the same purpose.
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If PSN had a similar party system to XBL, I'd likely have no real complaints.
But everything else, yeah.
07/07/09
Party rooms are fine though.
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Maybe I'm just weird like that.
07/07/09
Just like you don't need to talk on the phone when you're cooking some dinner and your friend is watching TV.
The "don't need argument" isn't solid at all. Cross-game interface is a pretty desirable feature because people have it...the people that have the 360 that is. If Xbox Live had you pay extra for cross-game chat, with the alternative being that you'd have to do without it, people would bitch and moan something horrible.
07/08/09
Chat lobbies are fine, but most people are going to chat in the same game because if their friend is online they're probably going to jump into that game instead of popping open cross game chat.
07/07/09
I still don't know why Smash Bros. Brawl adapted some of the features of Jump Ultimate Stars had online.
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Is there a way? If so someone please tell me.
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The same thing goes for Videos, Music and Pictures too... though I do wish they'd let me sort my friends list into groups too...
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But that won't happen. They will always continue to compete. So, it doesn't matter.
07/07/09
It never ceases to amaze me what imaginary silliness the more fanatic among us can glean from these PR quotes.
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07/07/09
Not having your console come with a Mic is a Good thing.
At least you have to go 5 mins out of your way to chat online. There is enough Freaking morons on XboxLive and PSN already, lets not make it easier for these people.
Lets not knock the Single player mentality here.
These people enjoy their games as much as anyone.
They just feel that their experience should not be tainted with a steady stream of ignorance/racist/ waist of life comments from some fool sitting in his underpants.
Make Big Chief know-it-all put on some pants and go get a mic.
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07/08/09
[www.pcworld.com]
@Fallible.: In a strange way, I'd rather they didn't. Keeps the dumb kids who cbf to buy one off of my Internets.
@CosmicElement: Hey, I know I will! :) It'll be cheaper than the monetary butt-rape that is contacting her network too. 35p a minute? No thanks.
@Go Go Gadget: Gizmo: I like playing online sometimes, but one of the reasons I like my PS2/PS3 so much is because it has equal parts single-player focus. Games like Persona 4, Valkyria Chronicles, Disgaea 3 etc... I can enjoy these games solo. The 360 is very much an online multiplayer machine, which is why I tend to go on there for party games mostly.
A more structured online experience would be great, don't get me wrong, but I don't want that to ruin the unique experiences I already get from my PS3. Otherwise it might as well be an Xbox 360 Mk II.
@KingPsyz here for HappyFunKingPsyz©: Yeah, I really wish people would stop using their PSEye's as a mic online. Nothing but muffled crap and static.
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I think Sony still has some catching up to do.
07/07/09
Yeah, they've still got a bit of catching up to do, but the rift is nowhere near as massive as it was at the beginning of the generation.
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Screw XBL and needing to pay for shit. Damn them to hell!
07/07/09
Although PSN will probably go one step farther with the ads, aka putting them in home, that would piss me off too, its not just XBL thing.
In addition XBL doesn't really offer that much more and Sony offers things that XBL doesn't as well. Like me being able to EASILY store my music and movies that I've made onto my PS3. Windows Media Player 11 would not and does not work with my 360 and the techies at Microsoft could not figure it out for me either. With my PS3 I just start Tversity and it recognizes it right away.
Also I play video games with my video game console. So what if PSN doesn't offer netflix, I just want to play Halo not watch movies. My issue is probably more of the fact that Xbox is trying to be a multi-media product as opposed to just a videogame console which I don't think they are doing that much of a good job with. SWony on the other hand has that down and I haven't had any issues with them.
07/07/09
For me it does boil down to "You get what you pay for". With Live I get great connectivity, a better party system and unless the game itself has a flaw - a cheater free existance. Yeah, you have to occasionally deal with some idiot fucking your ear over the headset. You would get that more often on the PS3 if more people actually had headsets. (don't pretend it doesn't happen with a surprising ratio considering how few headsets are out there)
When a person cheats on PSN or is in general being a douche, what happens? Maybe if they are extra bad and Sony is feeling aggresive they might get their PSN ID banned? Who cares? They just make another one. They are free. Since you pay for that gold subscription on XBLA, the people you run into tend to be a "little" better behaved. I play multi-player game on both systems. I have headsets for both systems... kids on Live can be jerks and need their mouths washed. Meanwhile, the people on PSN say crap that flat-out scares me.
When was the last time there was a major multi-player game release on PSN and the servers weren't going up and down like some high school cheerleader? I am not going to pretend that Live is some miracle 100% always up system; but you can't even begin to compare the PSN in stability.
I agree that PSN has made head-way. However I disagree in any notion that Sony is catching up. If anything they aren't falling behind as fast - which isn't the same thing. Being on Live is like having a girlfriend. It is generally a great experience, but it costs you money from time to time. PSN is like internet porn; you got off, there were no commitments and it was free.
07/07/09
In my experience, I've encountered far more douchefags on Live than on the PS3... the price point doesn't seem to be a dissuading factor in the least (there are arseholes on both systems, and perhaps it is just the headset saturation that makes Live's bad eggs all the more apparent, but, aside from some of the mouth-breathers in home, the PSN has far less of a visible problem).
The PSN is actually pretty stable... it might go down for a few hours hear and there for scheduled maintenance, but usually only when a new major network feature is being added (the last time I recall a major outage was the launch of home... it lasted about 12 hours at most)... as far as major online releases; Killzone 2 has had a great track record (I've experienced no online hickups thus far)...
I only suffer online when using a slow connection (my parents house has a feeble connection, so when I visit them my games lag to hell, though noone else is effected most of the time).
I live in the UK, and nine times out of ten, whenever I play a game on live the host is from america and I get the lag disadvantage (when I host everyone else lags too and I get a fuckton of abuse and ragequits), whilst I dont get that as often on the PSN.
I won't even pretend that the PSN has all of the features Live has, but feature-to-feature, the gap is closing... both services offer stuff that the competitor doesn't, and for online gaming, live has the more desirable feature set (cross game chat/invites), but I find, and I'm sure a lot of people will agree, especially in Europe, that stability wise, the PS3 is king.
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"As a student film maker, it is easy for me to edit my films and process them to my PS3 with Tversity and from there copy it to my memory stick duo, that I hand to my professors to grade. I can also use blu-ray format for my films and personally I feel that blu-ray is better than hd and it makes my work look better. I am also skilled with it too. I can't do that on my 360 let alone get a shared connection with my 360 to my desktop."
But I thought you bought consoles to play video games? The reason I had that impression is you typed, "I play video games with my video game console. So what if PSN doesn't offer netflix, I just want to play Halo not watch movies."
"I go to the movies for free on Tuesday because of Optimum Rewards. Why wast 10 bucks on netflix every month when I can go for free."
Well, you see, some of us like to watch more than 1 movie per week. And occasionally we even enjoy watching a few of the movies we choose to view each month from the comfort of our own homes. And last I checked TV series weren't at movie theaters and a lot are available through Netflix.
I subscribed to Netflix LONG before it streamed on the 360. Actually, I subscribed long before their was even an Xbox Live. But now I do stream movies through the 360 at least a couple times a week. It's a great feature and for me it's a free feature as I already subscribed to both Netflix and Xbox Live.
You may not LIKE or USE the features Xbox Live Gold offers, but that doesn't mean it's not a far superior online service. PSN is fine, for free. But there is so much more going for Xbox Live, that I still think it's a better deal at $38.99 a year than Sony is for free. Sony is slowly improving, but they are still definitely playing a game of catch up.
12/19/08
I bet you after they release these they will never again sell a single gamerpic.
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How many people see this as a "deal maker"?
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That sounds horrible!
12/19/08
It's all very hard to explain but at the end of the day, I spent about $28 and the only thing I could afford was Megaman 9 on the PSN. The rest of the money is either stuck forever on the card (because the PSN only allows you to add money in certain intervals for some stupid fucking reason) or is stuck in my PSN account because nothing is worth the proper amount of money for me to spend it after being charged tax for the second time.