Considering how extreme the Chinese gamers have been about playing wow (gold farming notwithstanding), I think they might actually be doing the right thing, but for the wrong reasons.
WoW is a horribly addicting game - skeletons or not. WoW in china has been especially bad with gamers starving themselves and to the point where there have been "mmo rehab" centers all over the place. Granted, WoW isn't the only contributing cause, but I do think it's one of the biggest. #worldofwarcraft
@Jehuty: Right, so you're arguing the majority should suffer because an extremely small, arguable mentally ill, minority can't handle the game?
People should be allowed to do what they want, with their time. They can live or die with the consequences, at least they get to decide. #worldofwarcraft
@Jehuty: First, I would like to say I don't know what China is like. Never been there. I'm SOMEWHAT educated. I go to college, whatever that counts for. Maybe the reason people in China are so into WoW (I can't even give an estimate of how many are addicted, but I know half of all registered users for WoW are from that region right? I'll work with that) is that it just plain sucks to live there? Just a blind guess, no offense to anyone, I would LOVE to be terribly mistaken.
I mean, I hear kids are learning multiplication tables when they're like 4? I was still learning to wipe my own ass when I was 4 (sometimes still can't do it).
Isn't that the theory we got going on with Japan? Their social structure is so intense a lot of the men are somewhat.. despondent?
I don't know. But I'm thinkin' the issue goes beyond WoW. WoW is just the most attractive, easy, and cheap escape.
Again I swear to God if someone takes offense and calls me a racist uneducated bastard I hope you get mauled by a bear. A bear with swords. And lasers.
Also feel free to tell me what it's like in mainland China! #worldofwarcraft
@WhiteSkyRising: Haha. I can't give you any informed insight, but your whole bears with swords and lasers made me lol. Thanks for that. haha. #worldofwarcraft
@WhiteSkyRising: I'm with Blinkon--your awareness of the foaming-at-the-mouth weeaboos, the swiftness and ludicrousness of their pounces, and the demonstrated glee with which they have performed and will continue to perform said pounces here; coupled with, hell, your bears-wielding-lasers stance against them, makes this a win.
If I had any bears to spare, I would send them to join your army. I've been in Japan for a while now though and I need every blasted bear I can get my hands on to keep the Lucky Star lynch mobs from coming after me. #worldofwarcraft
Hey China. Maybe if your country didnt suck so much and your citizens were actually worth something and could make a life for themselves, they wouldn't need to have fulfilling virtual fake lives in online games. #worldofwarcraft
@ryno365: That's a little over the top, don't you think? Most of us don't like China's gov't because we think they're citizens *are* actually worth something. They're people.
And this issue here isn't that people are looking for life fulfillment in WoW. It's a game. Most people are aware of that. This is just the Chinese gov't wanting control, and more money (read: bribes) #worldofwarcraft
@Hey_Blinkon: Maybe your right. But I just think that these online games are more then games to some people. And if so, I think there are socio-economic reasons for that. #worldofwarcraft
@ryno365:
wow this is one of the most ignorant comments I've seen on kotaku in quite some time. What do you know about China besides what Fox news feeds you? #worldofwarcraft
What on earth is with the random "Fox News" reference? It's not like they deserve to be the scapegoat of all that is wrong with journalism. And what does Fox News have to do with China (never mind the World of Warcraft issue) ? #worldofwarcraft
@dracosummoner: Anytime anyone says anything non-leftist, someone always pulls the "what did you hear that on Fox News?" card. It's so stupid.
Truly narrow minded to think that anyone who disagrees with you has had their thoughts fed to them. It's like the old adage, "Think for yourself!" when they really mean "Think like me!".
But, to answer your question more directly, Fox News is owned by Rupert Murdoch, who owns the contracts to both Hu Jintao and Bobby Koticks' souls. #worldofwarcraft
@Hey_Blinkon: I'm sure that's a problem, but I honestly think that the majority of people are like that, which is why there's still so much bigotry on both sides of the ocean right now. :/ #worldofwarcraft
@Leyviur: You're right about the inherent bigotry, but in this case it really *is* about Fox News. It's the scapegoat for all news, because it has an obvious conservative bent. Other news organizations have obvious liberal bents, but they don't catch the flak like them.
Either way, I just hate when people decide to ignore the message for the messenger, even if the message is logical. You know? #worldofwarcraft
@Hey_Blinkon: Hey, I understand completely. And I myself argue with people who think The Daily Show is the 'only source of respectable news.'
Your statement about the message and the messenger is a good one, but I'd like to think the best way to go about things is to do proper research (i.e. read up from different sources, including slanted ones), because then you'll know fully what the long term repercussions or benefits are of the things you are crusading against (or for).
The fact is, no news outlet, no matter how biased, is inherently good or bad. What turns them good or bad (and thus causes the general perception) is that certain people take the information they're fed without considering the implications or the background. Similarly, people who are against these outlets respond in a similar way, which I find ignorant and unfortunate.
So much bigotry and misunderstanding can be dispelled if more people would think for themselves rather than be told what to think and 'go with the flow,' as it were. #worldofwarcraft
It's the most logical thing to do if you are to build up home grown video gaming force. Nothing can rise from the pummelling that WoW would dish to all competition. I bet this has nothing to do with skeletons or violence issues. China is not letting a foreign company drain it's gaming potential revenue. I bet a chinese rip off of WoW x Final Fantasy is being made right now to be released next year. Biggest smoking nation on Earth? Get ready for the biggest MMO community that Blizzard could only dream about. #worldofwarcraft
@FillionSmythe: seems like a pretty smart strategy. it might not be the best one. id prefer a world where everyone has access to information, not just the rich (as in my country) or people in other countries (as it may seem in china).
though while my country doesnt outright outlaw foreign films. we do our best to dissuade people from watching them. we even begin remaking some the year they are released and act like they are new films. we dont want to lose our film industry. and people in my country get mad when they think of losing their job to someone overseas. this seems similar to both of those aspects of my culture imo. #worldofwarcraft
@abort_user:
Yeah it's what Japan has been doing since the beginning of time.
Also back to home grown products China has absolute tons of RPGs. MMO and single player.
This is just until they cook up a totally castrated version of the game that shows absolutely nothing resembling violence or morbidity and kicks you off after 90 minutes of play with a cheery "Give thanks to the party for wisely regulating your time!" message, presumably. #worldofwarcraft
You know what me and some friends just discussed this and we found a very very interesting relation to WoW and these kind of stories...
Why does this stuff only come out when another MMO is stomping a mud hold into WoW. Suspicious I say... Now think about it, When Warhammer released Mila Kunis was talking WoW, WoW, WoW.. Now she doesn't say crap about it (maybe Blizzard stopped paying her). But think about it every month a major MMO releases something like this comes out for WoW.
Look back at the games, Age of Connan, Warhammer, Aion etc. And on each and every month of one of those months some super hot model of a girl comes forth to say she plays WoW. Hate to say it but its way too suspicious, And its not below Blizzard to use such tactics to keep horny males playing WoW. Because Blizzard has paid some stars both male & female in the past to say they played WoW for ads. This is looks to be more of an underground type of advertising mostly done by company evangelist to increase sales/keep users of a product....
I don't really understand the point of this story. Even porn stars have personal lives. Although I disapprove of the practice, and I wouldn't associate with someone like her, if that's how she wants to make a living... who am I to stop her?
I thought that Fleshbot was the black sheep of the Gawker family and was being ignored ever since the link to the site was removed from the bottom of the page. So what now, do we only speak about Fleshbot in hushed tones and only talk to Fleshbot at birthdays and weddings (such as the above marriage of porn and WoW)?
I say no, we shall welcome Fleshbot back into the fold and show we are proud of all the unique members of our Gawker family!
@nkxjakfhda: Fleshbot is part of Gawker Network, along with;
Gizmodo(gadgets),
Jaloponik (cars),
Lifehacker(tips),
Gawker(gossip?),
io9(sci-fi)
Jezebel (women stuff),
Deadspin(sport)
Fleshbot(porn)
All of em have the same blog layout, comment system, your Kotaku account should work with them too(ish)
honestly I am getting sick of women that supposedly 'play video games' then make websites that emphasize and sell their bodies just so they can make the geeky pubescent boys drool over and worship them just to feel a little bit of self worth...
We had a girl who played horde on doomhammer, she had her own website www.eringames.com she played the ditsy 'omg gais you should help me I am a silly girl that doesn't know anything..' and the guys swoop in, until another girl shows up and calls her bluff
/endrage
I know the kinds of comments that I am gonna get for this "I bet you are a fat chick that doesn't like the fact that you don't get attention" which is untrue so save it
@cinamonspice: Honestly, I am getting sick of people who instantly dismiss people as a fake when they have the same hobbies as them because said people dislike what the commenter also enjoys.
Just because they're attractive doesn't mean they can't enjoy videogames.
@Monkey Bars: Oh please...I've been gaming since the Atari 2600. The attractive girl gamer phenomenon only exists because the gaming industry is now profitable in a culture mostly dominated by boys / men.
@Grooveraider: Or maybe it exists because of casual games bringing in people that normally didn't play games (like, I don't know, attractive, sociable women)?
@hodayathink is running for president of Naughty America: Or maybe these "attractive, sociable women" all have modeling/porn jobs and we don't expect them to be spending there "free" time playing WoW. WoW geeks have alot of free time to raid, these "women" have boyfriends, jobs, apperences, promotions, etc.. to do. they can't possible have the time to raid.
I agree with groove and spice, they play WoW for like an hour a day so they can have a talking point in their interview about how they're sucks a dork and play WoW all the time.
@BeerManMike: You'd be surprised at how much free time a porn chick can have, especially one that is only doing her own website (like this girl was). You shoot 4-5 times a week, each shoot only takes 2-4 hours tops, and you only shoot once a day, for the most part. And promotional appearances are once, maybe twice a month for one day, unless you're specifically touring, which might take a week or two out of your schedule (but maybe 4-6 hours each day). And most of them have laptops because they travel so often, so they could play WOW (or whatever) on the road.
In summation, if a porn chick doesn't have time for WOW, then neither do most people working 9-5 jobs.
Edit: Also, if you sign a contract like she just did, you shoot at max 5 or 6 scenes for the entire month. That's a lot of free time.
@tiekmir: Some people are turned off by slutty women, I also find it a pity that pretty women turn to porn... Or any woman for that matter. They should value themselves higher then that.
Either way, it is a pity ANYONE plays WoW. Riches don't make you happy... And how do you know she is loving life? Even if she notes it in an interview, it would have no value since pretty much all people claim to love life yet so many then try to commit suicide. They put on a public face, no one really knows who she is...
All she is to ANYONE is just some porn star who can't find value in anything else she could be doing a part from mindless and unrealistic sexual show for a camera.
@0suited: You can go back to watching porn and being ashamed of doing it now. Just like we have no idea that she is happy, you have no idea that she isn't. Have you ever actually heard the word "exhibitionist"?
@0suited: . . . or maybe they just like sex? As guys, it's easy to think, "Man, I'd love to get paid thousands of dollars to bang hot chicks all day." So why can't a sexually charged woman say, "Man, I'd love to get nailed by well endowed men all day and have millions of guys around the world finding me attractive and getting turned on by my videos!".
Believe it or not, but some girls *DO* enjoy sex. And not all of them are abused or emotionally damaged! Crazy thought, isn't it!? And you say, "All she is to anyone is just some porn star." I guess you missed the part where she's married?
So, she's in a happy, open-ended relationship, gets to have sex all day, gets paid by the truckload, and spends all her free time playing videogames.
Please, I dare you to find even *ONE* guy out of the thousands who will read this article that wouldn't want to live a life like that. Now tell me why she can't enjoy it just because she's a woman.
@0suited: You say that like there's something wrong with doing porn. Unless you're some kind of ridiculous fundamentalist, I don't see how you could...
@Monkey Bars: Exactly where did you get a negative stance on porn from what I just said? I hope not from that first sentence. Because if you did, you read it entirely different from the way I meant it to be read. I've found that a lot of people that take the attitude that he took do still enjoy pornography, they just feel ashamed for doing so.
Also, I promoted Kanji08's comment because he said what I meant to say, but better.
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WoW is a horribly addicting game - skeletons or not. WoW in china has been especially bad with gamers starving themselves and to the point where there have been "mmo rehab" centers all over the place. Granted, WoW isn't the only contributing cause, but I do think it's one of the biggest. #worldofwarcraft
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People should be allowed to do what they want, with their time. They can live or die with the consequences, at least they get to decide. #worldofwarcraft
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I mean, I hear kids are learning multiplication tables when they're like 4? I was still learning to wipe my own ass when I was 4 (sometimes still can't do it).
Isn't that the theory we got going on with Japan? Their social structure is so intense a lot of the men are somewhat.. despondent?
I don't know. But I'm thinkin' the issue goes beyond WoW. WoW is just the most attractive, easy, and cheap escape.
Again I swear to God if someone takes offense and calls me a racist uneducated bastard I hope you get mauled by a bear. A bear with swords. And lasers.
Also feel free to tell me what it's like in mainland China! #worldofwarcraft
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If I had any bears to spare, I would send them to join your army. I've been in Japan for a while now though and I need every blasted bear I can get my hands on to keep the Lucky Star lynch mobs from coming after me. #worldofwarcraft
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And this issue here isn't that people are looking for life fulfillment in WoW. It's a game. Most people are aware of that. This is just the Chinese gov't wanting control, and more money (read: bribes) #worldofwarcraft
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wow this is one of the most ignorant comments I've seen on kotaku in quite some time. What do you know about China besides what Fox news feeds you? #worldofwarcraft
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What on earth is with the random "Fox News" reference? It's not like they deserve to be the scapegoat of all that is wrong with journalism. And what does Fox News have to do with China (never mind the World of Warcraft issue) ? #worldofwarcraft
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Truly narrow minded to think that anyone who disagrees with you has had their thoughts fed to them. It's like the old adage, "Think for yourself!" when they really mean "Think like me!".
But, to answer your question more directly, Fox News is owned by Rupert Murdoch, who owns the contracts to both Hu Jintao and Bobby Koticks' souls. #worldofwarcraft
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Either way, I just hate when people decide to ignore the message for the messenger, even if the message is logical. You know? #worldofwarcraft
11/04/09
Your statement about the message and the messenger is a good one, but I'd like to think the best way to go about things is to do proper research (i.e. read up from different sources, including slanted ones), because then you'll know fully what the long term repercussions or benefits are of the things you are crusading against (or for).
The fact is, no news outlet, no matter how biased, is inherently good or bad. What turns them good or bad (and thus causes the general perception) is that certain people take the information they're fed without considering the implications or the background. Similarly, people who are against these outlets respond in a similar way, which I find ignorant and unfortunate.
So much bigotry and misunderstanding can be dispelled if more people would think for themselves rather than be told what to think and 'go with the flow,' as it were. #worldofwarcraft
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though while my country doesnt outright outlaw foreign films. we do our best to dissuade people from watching them. we even begin remaking some the year they are released and act like they are new films. we dont want to lose our film industry. and people in my country get mad when they think of losing their job to someone overseas. this seems similar to both of those aspects of my culture imo. #worldofwarcraft
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Yeah it's what Japan has been doing since the beginning of time.
Also back to home grown products China has absolute tons of RPGs. MMO and single player.
What country are you from? #worldofwarcraft
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Why does this stuff only come out when another MMO is stomping a mud hold into WoW. Suspicious I say... Now think about it, When Warhammer released Mila Kunis was talking WoW, WoW, WoW.. Now she doesn't say crap about it (maybe Blizzard stopped paying her). But think about it every month a major MMO releases something like this comes out for WoW.
Look back at the games, Age of Connan, Warhammer, Aion etc. And on each and every month of one of those months some super hot model of a girl comes forth to say she plays WoW. Hate to say it but its way too suspicious, And its not below Blizzard to use such tactics to keep horny males playing WoW. Because Blizzard has paid some stars both male & female in the past to say they played WoW for ads. This is looks to be more of an underground type of advertising mostly done by company evangelist to increase sales/keep users of a product....
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I think it's just an excuse to show BOOBS (!!!).
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If you think this has no relevance to anything, you fail to realise that Kotaku is the equivalent of a gossip rag for gamers.
...and I love it to bits.
10/10/09
I say no, we shall welcome Fleshbot back into the fold and show we are proud of all the unique members of our Gawker family!
Except Jezebel.
10/10/09
*mountain
**every goddamn day
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Gizmodo(gadgets),
Jaloponik (cars),
Lifehacker(tips),
Gawker(gossip?),
io9(sci-fi)
Jezebel (women stuff),
Deadspin(sport)
Fleshbot(porn)
All of em have the same blog layout, comment system, your Kotaku account should work with them too(ish)
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i would so want to trade with her...
i would cast my buffs on her any day...
i bet she loves totems...
she always pulls too much aggro...
she has an epic chestpiece...
i bet shes great at raiding...
ye i cant think of anything else :P
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We had a girl who played horde on doomhammer, she had her own website www.eringames.com she played the ditsy 'omg gais you should help me I am a silly girl that doesn't know anything..' and the guys swoop in, until another girl shows up and calls her bluff
/endrage
I know the kinds of comments that I am gonna get for this "I bet you are a fat chick that doesn't like the fact that you don't get attention" which is untrue so save it
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Just because they're attractive doesn't mean they can't enjoy videogames.
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I agree with groove and spice, they play WoW for like an hour a day so they can have a talking point in their interview about how they're sucks a dork and play WoW all the time.
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In summation, if a porn chick doesn't have time for WOW, then neither do most people working 9-5 jobs.
Edit: Also, if you sign a contract like she just did, you shoot at max 5 or 6 scenes for the entire month. That's a lot of free time.
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How the heck do you know this stuff???
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Why is it a pity? She is rich, loving life, and playing WOW all the time. You know how much off time she has to game? That is just awesome.
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Either way, it is a pity ANYONE plays WoW. Riches don't make you happy... And how do you know she is loving life? Even if she notes it in an interview, it would have no value since pretty much all people claim to love life yet so many then try to commit suicide. They put on a public face, no one really knows who she is...
All she is to ANYONE is just some porn star who can't find value in anything else she could be doing a part from mindless and unrealistic sexual show for a camera.
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Believe it or not, but some girls *DO* enjoy sex. And not all of them are abused or emotionally damaged! Crazy thought, isn't it!? And you say, "All she is to anyone is just some porn star." I guess you missed the part where she's married?
So, she's in a happy, open-ended relationship, gets to have sex all day, gets paid by the truckload, and spends all her free time playing videogames.
Please, I dare you to find even *ONE* guy out of the thousands who will read this article that wouldn't want to live a life like that. Now tell me why she can't enjoy it just because she's a woman.
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Please keep your hypocritical comments to yourself. Your moral high ground is getting quite mucky.
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Also, I promoted Kanji08's comment because he said what I meant to say, but better.
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If I could promote your comment, I would.