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    Image of Grandleon Grandleon
    04:35 AM

    In reply to Religious Criticism of Resident Evil Dignified With Response
    Looking through all the Christian bashing in the comments, it displays the sheer ignorance of young people today. These clergy are members of the Church of England, and only represent that organization.

    Especially those of you in the US should be ashamed of yourselves. It is Thanksgiving today, a tradition which harkens back to the Pilgrims of Plymouth. Why did so many people make that treacherous journey to come to America? They were Christians who sought to be free from the corruption and tyranny of the Church of England at the turn of the 17th century.

    If you don't like what these clergy said, then direct your ire at the Church of England. Direct it at the English. Leave the majority of Christians who hold no affiliation to these people out of it.
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    Image of XINVADER XINVADER
    05:03 AM

    @Grandleon: Well I agreed with you until you said 'direct it at the English'. I'm a UK Christian and I do not support your choice of words. Don't blame a whole country for the opinions of a few idiots. You're just as bad as those ministers. Tut tut tut...
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    Grandleon promoted this comment XINVADER was starred XINVADER was unstarred
    Image of Grandleon Grandleon
    05:20 AM

    @XINVADER: I'll back down from my statement when you guys finally disestablish the Church of England. Last I checked it's still the official state religion of England.
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    Image of Muramasa Edge Muramasa Edge
    06:13 AM

    @Grandleon: You're just as much of an ignorant moron as you've made others out to be. 'Direct it at the English?' I'm an Irishman and historically, we typically blame the English for quite literally everything (They were responsable for a lot of hardships my people suffered IN THE PAST.)- however, I can't agree with your assertion that English Christianity is somehow 'worse' than Americas. We're talking about a nation that in some states has such backward and fearful views that 'Intelligent Design' a foolish and frankly unsubstantiated theory based on a story in a book must be taught alongside the theory of Evolution.....just to name one example. Corruption and Hypocracy happen in all religions, in all denominations, why? Because there's always someone out there willing to use religion as an excuse so that they can gain ground and profit from peoples fears and beliefs.

    You've just as many religious groups in the States making ridiculous assertions about our favourite pastime as anyone else, so please do this site a favour, and pull your head out of your ass.

    I could be really mean and mention that your point about Thanksgiving is rendered utterly ridiculous by what came afterwards leading up to Philip's War, but I'll not be so mean. Oh damn.....I went and done it. Uh Oh.
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    Grandleon promoted this comment Muramasa Edge was starred Muramasa Edge was unstarred
    Image of Muramasa Edge Muramasa Edge
    06:15 AM

    @Grandleon: Actually, if you knew anything about the United Kingdom, you'd know that the practice of freedom of religion is one of the most important freedoms that they champion these days. If anything, the smaller in scale religions are treated with more respect what you have so-called their state religion.
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    Image of Grandleon Grandleon
    06:46 AM

    @Muramasa Edge: You talk about respect for religions, but it's obvious from your remarks that it only counts for religions other than Christianity. As soon as someone publishes a cartoon of Muhammad as a terrorist, the shit hits the fans. But belittling Christian beliefs is fair game. You make plenty of asides to do so.

    You resent Christians because spreading the faith is considered the most important thing a Christian can do, and many Christians are very studied in how to do this. Have scholarly degrees in the subject.

    Perhaps you could use a few apologetics lessons yourself. The first thing you learn is that if you want anyone to be converted to your way of thinking, the easiest way to shut them off forever is to belittle the beliefs they currently hold. You'll never enlighten anyone the way you go about it.
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    Image of Muramasa Edge Muramasa Edge
    07:00 AM

    @Grandleon: Sorry mate, I've kept my beliefs to myself; you're asserting that I somehow seek to convert people to my way of thinking- but what exactly is that? I'm championing nothing right now but the notion that you're an ass for your comment about blaming the English, as a people, for these three people's opinions being aired when in actual fact, that is EXACTLY what you were condemning athiest commenters for doing towards Christians in America. Make up your mind- you're talking about spreading Christianity, when you're shitting on other Christians? which is it? You can't have it both ways.

    I'm not sure what you're gaining from making a point out of thin air regarding my 'talking about respect for other religions' because if you read my posts again, you'll clearly see that I didn't speak of my own opinion here.

    Seriously, your assertion that I as a person resent Christians in itself is an ignorant and uninformed opinion thanks to your not knowing both myself as a person, nor my beliefs in the subject you've chosen to speak about. Is it the fact that I mentioned how all religions have members that are corrupt and opportunistic? Of course the same can be said of the Athiest movement, but we're talking religion surely, and not non-religion. Is it the fact that I mentioned Intelligent Design? To my knowledge that is an Evangelist and Fundamentalist movement and in no way represents every denomination of Christian Belief- is my criticism of one seperatist movement enough basis for you to make that assertion? Not if you're an intelligent person wishing to have a sensible debate it's not.

    The fact of the matter is, we're not talking about my beliefs- we're talking about your sweeping and ridiculously generalising attack on an entire nation of people, in what was a mindless and narrow comment, and you turning this towards my beliefs shows just where your motivations lie- in attacking anyone who has any kind of disagreeance with your opinion.
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    Edited by Muramasa Edge at 11/26/09 7:05 AM Muramasa Edge was starred Muramasa Edge was unstarred
    Image of Mancomb Seepgood Mancomb Seepgood
    07:10 AM

    @Grandleon: "Direct it at the English."

    What? I'm an English Atheist, how the hell does this have anything to do with me?

    Direct it at Christianity, they're the ones always making stupid claims and ruining others peoples fun in ALL western countries.
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    Image of cheeseboybeans cheeseboybeans
    07:13 AM

    @Grandleon: I'm a UK non-Christian. Don't direct ire at the English please. Plenty of English people don't have any affiliation with the Church of England.
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    Image of Grandleon Grandleon
    07:18 AM

    @Muramasa Edge: All I see here are excuses. No one wants to take responsibility for an organization that is given credibility by their government. I remember BBC World News wouldn't shut up about Abu Ghraib for months. We were rightly embarrassed by it. But I guess the English are too proud here.
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    Image of Grandleon Grandleon
    07:23 AM

    @cheeseboybeans: Apparently Parliament didn't get the memo.
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    Image of cheeseboybeans cheeseboybeans
    08:43 AM

    @Grandleon: And I suppose because Tiger Woods endorses Gillette, you can blame him next time they put out a shit razor. Nice one, poindexter.
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    Image of (Zombie) D Mitsuki, Gotta have guts kid! (Zombie) D Mitsuki, Gotta have guts kid!
    10:28 AM

    @Grandleon:
    "Sheer ignorance of young people today."

    Or rather, lack thereof.
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    Image of Blore07 Blore07
    03:58 AM

    In reply to Religious Criticism of Resident Evil Dignified With Response
    As far as I remember, there is absolutely no link to the occult in the resident evil games, Science != Occult.

    Religious or not, people with power should think before opening their mouths when they know so little about the topic at hand.
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    Image of Lamego Lamego
    04:23 AM

    @Blore07: Dude, the RE4/Re5 clearly mark the "las plagas" manifestation as a near-to-religious cult, with all the respective personas involved.
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    Image of Blore07 Blore07
    04:44 AM

    @Lamego: Sorry, I was referring to the games this game is based on, My bad
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    Image of XINVADER XINVADER
    07:17 AM

    @Blore07: Religions are hypocritical anyway when it comes to magic and the occult. Christians famously hung witches and disliked magic while they believe in a magical man who could walk on water, heal people, etc. It's always been like this in some form or another. Always remember; science is evil because science serves to disprove religion.

    And yes I realize I'm bashing my own religion.
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    (Zombie) D Mitsuki, Gotta have guts kid! promoted this comment XINVADER was starred XINVADER was unstarred
    Image of (Zombie) D Mitsuki, Gotta have guts kid! (Zombie) D Mitsuki, Gotta have guts kid!
    10:35 AM

    @XINVADER: Have you ever thought about deconverting :P

    There are plenty of non-theological beliefs out there that make much more logical sense, and also theological beliefs that make much more sense then any of this old fashioned Judeo-Christian crap.
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    Image of Madeira Madeira
    11/25/09

    In reply to Religious Criticism of Resident Evil Dignified With Response
    I don't think they really believe that Resident Evil is bad for anyone, maybe it's just that sometimes they feel inadequate that people are more interested in the fantasies of video games to theirs.
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    Image of CowPieSoup CowPieSoup
    11/25/09

    @Madeira: I'm gonna go ahead and stop you there.

    "I am going to denounce something I don't believe in even though it will do nothing but make me look like a douche to people that have free will and do believe in that which I do not."

    Saying religion is fantasy is like saying America didn't land on the moon. Sone people may believe you, but a lot of people are going to call you an idiot for calling THEM idiots.
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    Madeira promoted this comment CowPieSoup was starred CowPieSoup was unstarred
    Image of Madeira Madeira
    11/25/09

    @CowPieSoup: If I was called an idiot by someone who believes fantasy is reality, I wouldn't be too upset about it.
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    Image of Deathbearer Deathbearer
    11/25/09

    @Madeira: Fuckin' win XD
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    Image of exion exion
    04:05 AM

    @Madeira: lol, epic!
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    Image of TrjnRabbit TrjnRabbit
    11/25/09

    In reply to Religious Criticism of Resident Evil Dignified With Response
    Are these the kind of people we want teaching our kids? People who clearly lack comprehension skills and will publicly take a stance against something based on little evidence?

    Don't we want our kids to be taught to question things, to try to understand something before taking a stance?

    I know that if I had kids, I wouldn't let them listen to people who refuse to make informed opinions.
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    Image of Atomsk88 Atomsk88
    11/25/09

    @TrjnRabbit: All of humanity is guilty of that, so there's really no "those people." No matter what beliefs, background, or character one holds, they have the likelihood of being guilty of ignorance.

    Frankly, that's why I'm a pessimist when it comes to the nature of man. No matter how much we advance, we're all blathering idiots when it comes to living up to the standards of what is perceived to be a "human being."
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    Image of TrjnRabbit TrjnRabbit
    11/25/09

    @Atomsk88:
    I didn't blame it on their faith, just thought I'd point out the hypocrisy of someone saying something is a bad example whilst being a bad example.
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    Image of Atomsk88 Atomsk88
    11/25/09

    @TrjnRabbit: Well, I didn't perceive your comment as one about faith. My comment is more about how anyone can make uninformed opinions, so there isn't "kind of people." No matter what school, community, state, or continent you reside, children will face ignorance in all its forms.

    So, how are you going to make sure your future children don't listen to ignorance when it occurs everywhere and in everyone?
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    Edited by Atomsk88 at 11/25/09 8:51 PM Atomsk88 was starred Atomsk88 was unstarred
    Image of TrjnRabbit TrjnRabbit
    11/25/09

    @Atomsk88:
    I'm thinking some form of shock collar that activates whenever an opinion is said that hasn't been justified.
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    Image of exion exion
    04:21 AM

    @TrjnRabbit: It's maybe a little much to hope that the clergy would break the habit of a lifetime...

    After all, if they can follow an invisible, omnipresent, all seeing, all creating wizard with very little evidence, demeaning a video game (a game with "evil" in it's very name) without gathering valid evidence would seem to fit the MO.

    Living in the UK my view of the religious impact on popular media is probably pretty skewed from the real big picture (as I've never first-hand been to the American "Bible Belt" or similar locations... the Christian pickets are often viewed as something alien and barbaric, though to many, it's a way of life) but from my limited experience, the ill-informed opinions of a minority (faith wise, in the UK most people maintain the mentality of either atheism or agnosticism - as I at least try to maintain a philosophical equilibrium I try to adopt the latter, though my natural cynicism makes the former more true) don't really have that big an impact beyond maybe the odd small store in tiny communities declining to stock a particularly scandalous title... heck I've seen church-funded charity shops stocking slayer albums before now!

    I say let these peons think what they will... trying to educate those who don't want to be educated is as futile as adding garnish to a shit sandwich... no matter how nice the lettuce is, you'll still be eating shit.

    Of course, there are members of the clergy who seem to be a lot more progressive... generally the younger priests who have a finger closer to the pulse... so if your a religious type, you might be in good hands after all...

    Whatever.
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    Edited by exion at 11/26/09 4:24 AM exion was starred exion was unstarred
    Image of Joel Whitmore Joel Whitmore
    11/25/09

    In reply to Religious Criticism of Resident Evil Dignified With Response
    Church be Trollin'.
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    Image of Knoxximus ver. 5.66 Knoxximus ver. 5.66
    11/25/09

    @Joel Whitmore: LOL
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    Image of MrMister MrMister
    11/25/09

    @Joel Whitmore: You deserve a star sir. :)
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    Knoxximus ver. 5.66 promoted this comment MrMister was starred MrMister was unstarred
    Image of thirdeye09 thirdeye09
    11/25/09

    @Knoxximus ver. 5.66: man playa they be trollin too hard. they best respect.
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    Knoxximus ver. 5.66 promoted this comment thirdeye09 was starred thirdeye09 was unstarred
    Image of Knoxximus ver. 5.66 Knoxximus ver. 5.66
    11/25/09

    @thirdeye09: Maaaaaaayne, church be trollin' too TRILL, mayne. Shit is mad hot, son. If they try to come back on this shit right here, Imma hafta sic P-Tone on 'em, fa sheez!
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    Edited by Knoxximus ver. 5.66 at 11/25/09 8:41 PM Knoxximus ver. 5.66 was starred Knoxximus ver. 5.66 was unstarred
    Image of Atomsk88 Atomsk88
    11/25/09

    In reply to Religious Criticism of Resident Evil Dignified With Response
    Meh, I could care less about what anyone says about a game as long as I get to play the game.

    If I can't play a game due to the interaction of individuals, then I make it a case to comprise an argument.

    Also, blah blah blah religion blah blah blah politics blah blah the children and blah blah I know what's right and you don't so shut up or else!
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    Image of nipsen nipsen
    11/25/09

    @Atomsk88:
    /Couldn't/ care less.

    Wouldn't mind actually discussing the reverend's pitch with them, though. What they take from all of this and why, and so on.
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    Image of wirebrain wirebrain
    11/25/09

    @Atomsk88: It's more to prevent the latter from happening. It's one thing to not care about the silly things that people call you, but it's another thing to let them be the only thing that shapes the opinion of others.
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    Image of Atomsk88 Atomsk88
    11/25/09

    @nipsen: Bah, syntax!

    Though maybe I do care to some degree if I was willing to even respond in regards to such a topic. If anything, I'd like to know why they specifically chose Darkside Chronicles of all games that pretty much feature the same content, and to even greater degrees too.
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    Image of ostartero ostartero
    11/25/09

    @nipsen: He could be saying "I could care less" ironically as in "I could totally care less, except I don't care at all as it is, so I really couldn't, but I wish I could."

    Or at least that's how I use it.
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    nipsen promoted this comment ostartero was starred ostartero was unstarred
    Image of nipsen nipsen
    07:07 AM

    @ostartero:
    mm.. (stand by for semantic analysis).

    But then you really couldn't care less. If you felt you should care a little, but don't, then it would be "I wish I cared, but I don't".

    If you said "I wish I could care less, but I don't care at all", then you're regretting that you don't care, and amending it by suggesting you absolutely don't care in any way whatsoever. That's like saying: "I wish I didn't have any money to spare, but I'm actually dirt poor".

    Instead, you would say: "I wish I had some money, so I could keep it just to spite you".

    Or: "I wish I could (say I) care at all, but I don't".

    ...proper form on the insults, please. :p
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    Image of wirebrain wirebrain
    11/25/09

    In reply to Religious Criticism of Resident Evil Dignified With Response
    It's finally nice to see companies stand up for their products and take responsibility for their image. Maybe someone took Hal Halpin's story to heart?
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    Image of Bialia Bialia
    11/25/09

    In reply to Religious Criticism of Resident Evil Dignified With Response
    "too quick to splash the holy water"???

    Ballsy.
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    Image of N●Gage Croal is grabbin' peels N●Gage Croal is grabbin' peels
    11/25/09

    In reply to Religious Criticism of Resident Evil Dignified With Response
    As a Catholic... I'm glad Capcom had the cojones to put these nutjobs in their place.

    Still... it would've been best if they said nothing at all and ignore the crazies. Because, yes, they'll figure out some way to counter that.

    It's just a shame that some people can never admit they're wrong...
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    Image of EmeraldDragon EmeraldDragon
    11/25/09

    @N●Gage Croal is grabbin' peels: I'm not sure ignoring the crazies helps. From what I can tell it seems to make them louder.
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    N●Gage Croal is grabbin' peels promoted this comment EmeraldDragon was starred EmeraldDragon was unstarred
    Image of N●Gage Croal is grabbin' peels N●Gage Croal is grabbin' peels
    11/25/09

    @EmeraldDragon:
    Then what are you supposed to do?
    Damned if you do, damned if you don't, huh?
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    Image of EmeraldDragon EmeraldDragon
    11/25/09

    @N●Gage Croal is grabbin' peels: I think offereing reasonable and sound arguements work best. Yes, they will still get worked up, but to the outside obsever, you still come off as the not-crazy option.
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    Image of SmilingPolitely SmilingPolitely
    11/25/09

    In reply to Religious Criticism of Resident Evil Dignified With Response
    Nothing was said by the clergymen about "evil," one way or another. They're concerned that the game may promote interest in the occult; from a purely religious standpoint, not an unreasonable assertion, and one that isn't terribly offensive.

    If Leo wants to make a rebuttal, it'd help if he actually rebutted the actual argument, not what he perceives to be the typical response to a videogame from the religious community. Who's doing the stereotyping here?

    As for any mention of violence......... sigh. I'm sure our collective kill count of zombies/terrorists/counter-terrorists alone would number in the trillions. Methinks the good clergymen ought to leave psychology to psychologists, and stick to religious matters instead.
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    Image of (Zombie) D Mitsuki, Gotta have guts kid! (Zombie) D Mitsuki, Gotta have guts kid!
    11/25/09

    In reply to Religious Criticism of Resident Evil Dignified With Response
    Ironically, their religion promotes everything that the game is stated to promote.
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    Image of kylenalepa kylenalepa
    11/25/09

    In reply to Religious Criticism of Resident Evil Dignified With Response
    Good on Capcom for standing up to these people. I wonder if any of them also protested the use of Manchester Cathedral in Resistance: Fall of Man? I looked for their names in the BBC News article ([news.bbc.co.uk]), but didn't see them specifically singled out.
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    Image of Sobersean: aka Doctor Aquafresh Sobersean: aka Doctor Aquafresh
    11/25/09

    In reply to Religious Criticism of Resident Evil Dignified With Response
    I have a sneaking suspicion that nobody is going to come into this article defending the clergymen in this case.
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    Image of deanbmmv deanbmmv
    11/25/09

    @Sobersean: aka Doctor Aquafresh:
    Such is the fickle nature of Kotaku commenters.
    Obama: Use your 360 less
    Comments: stuffy dumb politician
    Obama : Play LBP
    Comments : We love Obama
    Clergy: Games are evil..resident evil.
    Comments : religion is silly
    clergy: we'll let you play games in Mass
    Comments : Church is teh awesome
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    Image of koldkalamity koldkalamity
    11/25/09

    In reply to Next Week's Rock Band Update Brought To You By The Letter N
    CanIHazJoiDivisionPlzKThxBi.
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    Image of anabbeynormality anabbeynormality
    11/25/09

    In reply to Nintendo Boasts 9 Million Player Advantage Among Female Console Gamers
    I think a lot of women my age (mid twenties) played the classic Marios and whatnots as kids, but then grew out of it because games weren't really cool in teenage girl social circles. I'm the only gamer amongst my female friends, but most of them will talk at length with me about how much they rocked at Mario back in the day. I think that as women are catching on to the fact that games aren't just for kids, they are gravitating towards what they know: Nintendo.
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    Image of LilSpitfire LilSpitfire
    11/25/09

    @anabbeynormality: You basically described me. Although it wasn't that I grew out of gaming...my mode of gaming changed. I grew up with a Gamegear and a Genesis. But when I got into late HS/college my mode of entertainment stopped being primarily the TV and switched to my computer. It was convinent...I could do EVERYTHING on my comp;not just game.I played computer games mostly through undergrad on my own.

    While my primary console was PS2 in college, I never owned one...but there was always one around me through friends and roommates. Now that I'm on my own and I have more of a disposable income I bought myself a PS3 and retroly a PS2 and I'm having a blast playing through all the games I missed out during my computer gaming era.

    I still play games online though. I love Steam!

    I haven't bought any of the modern handhelds though.

    So the question is...am I a casual gamer or hardcore?

    My range of tastes goes from Bioshock/Halo to Zoo Tycoon/facebook games and a myriad in between.
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    Image of anabbeynormality anabbeynormality
    11/25/09

    @LilSpitfire: You're a gamer, that's the only label you need.
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